Wow. I'm sick. But I was expecting it.
I gave up on the media long ago. It's the utter insanity of this society that is following this administration to its destruction.

I'm so glad you are catching these things and reporting them, Brad. That tempers the madness somewhat.
From Superbowls to sitcoms to Grammys, the people of this country are the walking dead.
Absolutely frightening. At least I don't have to spend the money I don't have on some grade B horror flick.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.

Your chocalate ration has been increased from 27g to 25g.

Mmmmm, Victory Chocolate

It would seem that these photos are from http://www.isis-online.o...ns/iran/natanz03_02.html Note the date of March 2003. This is the latest news?

Where are the purported North Korean pictures? Do they even exist? Phooey on the MSM.

If you look really closely at both photos you can see a very tiny George W. Bush giving us all the finger.

This is Jon Stewart's fault. Since he got so successful everyone's trying to get in on the fake news game.

Here are the two pic filenames:

Iran pic (from the Iran story page):
story.suspected.site.iran.2.jpg

North Korea pic (from the N. Korea story page):
story.suspected.site.iran.jpg

Obviously this is CNN's screwup. No vast media conspiracy here, you may now remove your tinfoil hats.

[ed note: Full paths to Iran and N. Korea stories removed since it was creating odd formatting on this item. Picture filenames are still given above, but without full path to CNN page]

This is not the type of mistake I would expect one of the countries largest news countries to make. The US administration is waging an intimidation fight against Iran to convince that country to stop its nuclear ambitions. Am I to believe that Iran poses a clear and present danger after we find out that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction as our government reported to the US people and the world before the Iraq war? I guess I would want to have proof this time....lots of proof. The point of this is that the demonstration of nuclear development in Iran is an extremely serious matter that will affect public opinion tremendously. Should the US enter into a war with Iran against such a huge country with 70 million people, then the US had better be in danger and well informed. Iraq has a flat terrain and about 25 million people, and the US has lost over 1,400 of our sons and daughters, over 10,000 seriously wounded and spent hundreds of billions of dollars. Iran is a much bigger challenge that will have many global consequences as well as domestic sacrifices.

How many people thought that Saddam had a major role in 9/11? A huge percentage of US citizens did. They got their news from a brief one-liner from CNN or other new organization. Visual props have an even bigger impact on peoples perceptions and beliefs. They appear to us as proof and when backed up by a large news organization such as CNN, then it must be true. Clearly, we cannot blindly follow this administrations assertion about middle-east threats and etc. We as true citizens should require proof before we make a decision about such serious matters. And we should require not only accurate reporting by our media, we should require a muckraker attitude, which does not exist at the present time.

Forgive me, I'm at work; no time to create links properly.

Same image, though rotated, appears in Time Magazine
Saturday, Mar. 08, 2003
Nantanz, Iran

The following is the Yongbyon site in Korea
Jan.2, 2004 18:30 KST
Yongbyon, Korea

Errant reporting by CNN. Digital Globe may have mislabeled the ISIS' fots, causing the confusion.

Let me correct the "Same image, though rotated" to "Same site, different perspective". Too early in the morning and not enough coffee.

Well, Matthew. maybe we should all just read The Enquirer. File names don't tell us much. CNN doesn't tell us much. Are you here to do damage control? This kind of thing could cost you your job, unless you are Jeff Gannon, then it takes being another kind of pimp.

I don't think Digital Globe is our friend, any more than CNN is Lori. I don't even trust corporations like Working Assets. It does lend creedence to the notion that the bigger an organization gets, the more the quality and level of service and attention to detail drops off.

I'm not surprised by anything the MSM does anymore? Wish I could figure out what it is about this Bush gang that makes them want to fall all over his crazy assertions.

so the supposed "iranian" reactor is a korean reactor - an innocent mistake, i'm sure. it's not like there's some, er, conspiracy to make us think iran is more of a threat then they really are and get us into an unnecessary war. cause what kind of idiot would buy that?

How do we make this shit hit the mainstream media fan?
How long will it be before we can call for impeachment proceedings?

Nice work. And thanks for sharing!

"Calling Colin Powell, Calling Colin Powell. Your shirts with the CNN logo are ready"

Regarding the links at CNN that seem to have been an error at CNN since files are labeled the same but in different directories...

...It could be reality, it could be plausible deniability, it could be retroactive ass-covering

I would like to believe that this is just a mistake on CNN's part. Someone grabbed the wrong photo. But this brings up the question, is that "nuclear facility" actually in either of those countries? Perhaps it's really in, oh I don't know, Montana and they "accidentaly" used it for Iran, and "accidentaly" used it again for North Korea.

I don't think that photo is Yonbyon.

I disagree with Brad's conclusions about the origin of the photos; but to me, that disagreement isn't really relevant to the discussion.

No matter where the photos came from, CNN has an obligation as a news outlet to verify that the information (and images) that it provides to its readers are accurate. This means checking to make sure that some staffer didn't make an innocent mistake, as well as checking to make sure that the information being provided to them isn't deliberately false.

No matter what your opinions on this particular incident (government conspiracy or CNN foul-up), it reflects poorly on CNN.

CNN can always pretend that mistakes were made. The real question is why they are faking up the alarming news that these dangers are looming. They are playing out of the Bush administration playbook. The loss of an independent media in the US is criminal, and democracies cannot survive the loss of independent sources of truth.

I don't think that photo is Yonbyon.

those photos are incontrevertable proof that we have to invade iraq this instant!

iran, i mean iran.

in comment #19, Disintegrator wrote: "I disagree with Brad's conclusions about the origin of the photos..."

Please note that Brad did not state any conclusion about the origin of the photos. He simply asked a few questions about it.

Perfect! Is Colin Powell in the house?

"BTW, jes' my opinion, but I find that spinning police light next to this story really distracting ... "

None of you get it! A Q Khan sold plans for a nuclear plant to both Iran and North Korea, so it is hardly surprising that they look identical. I am sure if CNN looked carefully enough they could come up with an identical photo for nuclear plants in Syria and Venezuela as well.

:hehe:

I like to give the Son-of-a-Bush a hug...
In his prison cell!

BTW, Papa Bush hjelped kill JFK.

Dude, where's my country???

I agree that the media has totally gone to SHIT lately, but saying that Bush had a hand in it is stupid. CNN, along with most all other major news outlets (Fox News too!), are absolutely retarded. Their integrity is completely gone... Who saw that story they aired about the "captured US soldier" that was actually a TOY?!? I mean, holy SHIT, that was the most ridiculous picture ever...

My point? The Bush administration has NOTHING to do with this...although I really wish Dubya did... Dammit, why did the democratic party have to make such an asshat like Kerry their candidate! Arghhh! Now we have 4 more years of WarMongerMonkeyMan........ we're fucked

ARRRRGH!

Just watch Link TV and listen to Air America until these foul "media" stables get mucked out...

photo's changed now, if you are referring to the photo in the "Timeline: N. Korea nuclear dispute".

This just in. Instead of sitting down and talking with North Korea as requested Bush and his gang of thugs are back to their old tricks dreaming up ways to force them to do what they want. Not a diplomat in the lot.

Comment #27: It wasn't the Democrats who made Kerry, it was... THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA! The GOP WANTED to run aginst Kerry. How do I know this? Granted, it's a hunch but try and remember during the primaries, the states back east voted first and for the entire week before and during all we heard about was how Deam was blowing it and how Kerry was pulling a suprise victory. No matter what channel I watch, the information I get from my TV is all the same; fiction.

CNN probably re-labels all images they are provided so as to adhere to their own filing system
The file names you showed up there don't give you info about their origins.

Moreover, even if it is a cock-up, running the same pix by mistake, the fact remains that someone told them to run nuke-plant images "from" both countries.

In other words, there should be a new, corrected photo in place of the mistaken dupe.

It appears that CNN got its photos from the Isis-Online website (http://www.isis-online.org). Over there, they don't seem to have duplicated the pics-- their pictures of the North Korean and Iran sites are very different.

Right now, I'm going with the theory that some graphics person at CNN screwed up. They've removed the picture from the North Korea story.

CNN changed the NK page. Now its got a pic of Glorious leader.

I suspect that there may be movements within the MSM to come out of the closet. To get out of bed with the admin and stop the journalistic fornication.

They may realize they have journalistic STD's, however, they may not have what it takes to admit it, get help (e.g. from blogs like this), and move on into real and healthy journalism.

But I strongly suspect as well that there are counter forces within the MSM who led them into bed with the admin who like it kinky like that. They may be sabotaging the effort to get cleaned up.

Come on MSM reporters, become whistle blowers. Let your anger at the hypocracy, phony policies, and damage to the profession blast you free.

Get out into the fresh, clear air ... and as Brad has said, make the truth fun again.

If you do we are all here for you! And if you don't we will be here against you.

The true power in 1984 wasn't that they lied --- all oppressive regimes do that --- it was that they CHANGED HISTORY as they went along to revise things so that it didn't even look like they lied.

Like how we went to war in Iraq to get rid of Saddam and give them Democracy, rather than to get rid of WMDs and avoid a "mushroom cloud."

Like how the Medicare bill was ALWAYS going to cost a Trillion dollars, rather than the 400Billion promised on the extended night when they jammed it through.

Like how we always knew the war was going to be tough going and take ten years and cost 500Billion, rather than how we were going to be "greeted in the streets as liberators with flowers and hugs" and be out of there in "two years maximum" and how it was only going to cost 80Billion (if that) and perhaps even be "self financing."

It's not the lying I hate, it's the revisionism.

Remember the mantra... repeat it to everyone you know:

Republicans lie and our kids die.
Republicans steal and give to their rich friends.
Republicans cheat honest Americans and get away with it.
Republicans have to be swept out in 2006.

It's simple. It's to-the-point. It's true. It's our only hope.

Americans must "scream for Democracy."

Charlie L
Portland, Oregon

CNN is running s different pic with a timeline sidebar type story on the NK Nukes LINK

Which I presume is more confirmation that the pic they duped was supposed to be with the Iraq story as MATTHEW LeFANDE points out above.

However, I think it's ironic that the Iran story actually says that the Iranian nucular activities are actually underground.

What we have to rememeber in all this is that Iran does have the right to operate a nuke plant - it's only using the plant to produce fissionable material that is in violation of treaties. The whole use of a any pic of any nucular facility is a distraction unless satellite imagery is so good as to show actual treaty violations - which of course they don't - and if they did - Israel would likely take out the plant themselves as they did in Iraq.

I think Jeff Gannon got info from Karl Rove. see Mike Rupert's 12/05/03 piece, Washington is talking about the similarity between J.E. Hoover and Karl. I'll bet the whole W.H. press corpse knows. Shows they are sitting on it, not just lax. Irony of ironies bloggers discovered this info right out from a room full of supposed journalists.

According to two or three articles at yesterday's antiwar.com site, it's likely DUMYA can't, or Congress won't, muster enough soldiers or money to attack either Iran or N. Korea. He's blown all the "budgets". He has no further "credibility" with Europe or China or Russia (or anyone else outside the U.S.A., for that matter). I think these three parties will ensure DUMYA and America don't have any more "war parties" abroad. DUMYA and his administration can shoot all the hot air they want, using CNN and the MSM. The only ones who believe him are "faith-based" Americans, as in no capability for critical or rational thinking. DUMYA may try to get Israel's Sharon to attack Iran. But is Sharon stupid??? So far, I don't think so.

As for the media, they're a totally brainless lot. It's not news - it's entertainment, advertising and propaganda. It's time that all of America knows this.

P.S. I personally like the spinning police lights!!!! Emergency, Emergency, Emergency, calling any and all thinking, caring people to attention! We have another potential F..K up here!

This morning I was listening to NPR's Morning Edition, and I know they've been leaning more and more to the right lately, but didn't realize how far.

The subject was missile defense, and whether or not it works. The speaker they had on was obviously a rethug because his opinion was that, all in all, it was a good system. We know this is bullshit, but NPR didn't offer a differing opinion. This is bad enough, but what really burned my hindparts was how the speaker used Iran and North Korea as his theoretical threat. This is how he said it, though not a quote, 'if we had incoming missiles, let's suppose....Iranian or North Korean'..........

You know..... I expect this on RWCM stations, but not on NPR! It's bad, real bad. They didn't skip a beat. Gonna make a complaint, as I'm sure many will. It was so blatant.

Molly #38

"press corpse"
Nice:)

Re: my own #40
nuff said

While some of this has been said before, here's my two cents:

That's not Yongbyon at all. Here's Yongbyon - note that it looks nothing like the picture (including the surrounding terrain):
http://www.globalsecurit...prk/yongbyon-imagery.htm

It's actually the Natanz facility, in Iran:
http://www.ceip.org/file...s/images/iran/natanz.JPG
http://www.isis-online.o...ns/iran/natanz03_02.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/...D/meast/09/15/iran.iaea/
(etc)

Just do a google image search for "Natanz" and a search for "Yongbyon" - essentilly every Natanz image looks like the above, while every Yongbyon image doesn't.

The funny thing? It's not a "suspected site" - it's a declared site. How dumb of CNN to pretend that it's something insidious, when Iran invited the IAEA there to check it out. Heck, how could CNN forget about the site - it was the source of controversy when HEU was found by the IAEA (for which the Bush administration jumped all over Iran), which was then later determined to have been contamination from when the equipment was in Russia. After the issue was resolved, the IAEA concluded "The Agency has continued to carry out verification activities with respect to the suspension of enrichment and reprocessing related activities at TNRC, Lashkar Ab’ad, Arak, Kalaye Electric Company workshop, Natanz and UCF, and has not observed to date any activities at those locations inconsistent with Iran’s voluntary undertaking."

For what it's worth, while I think think this is a poor mistake by a prominent media organization, I don't think CNN considers it one nor of much great concern.

Obviously, what happened is that there were no existant or available photos of the one site and the producer/graphics people just photo-shoped the other site as a substitute. "Hey, don't all nuclear facilities look alike from the air?":) The image is not meant to be real as much as provide context for the article.

How many times have you seen war reporting on CNN televsion of either repeated instances of the same firefights with the same wounded soldier firing back or better yet, reporting on American troops when obviously, the helmets indicate that they are British soldiers.

Now, if (and I don't think this is the case) the images were government supplied, then I would be really worried.

It appears that CNN has corrected the error.

I contacted them via their website asking for an explanation. I encourage others to do so also

According to ISIS, the new NK photo is actually Yongbyon's five MWe reactor:

http://isis-online.org/p...ns/dprk/5MWereactor.html

Get Dan Rather on this !!!

Irrevocably factual reporting needed. Now!

CNN has posted a correction. Media outlets make misstakes every day, and they frequently correct the mistakes, unlike hyperbolic blogs and their frantic readers.

Hey, didn't Bill and Hillary kill Vince Foster? Oops! Wrong blog, I thought I was at Free Republic or Little Green Snotballs. It seems we have a few visitors from across the way, lurking. Here's a neat piece I found over at Counter Punch by Paul Craig Roberts (Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review). I bet he won't be invited back to the White House any time soon.

As Things Fall Apart, Lie and Lie Again
Nothing to Fear But Bush Himself

In your amusing post, you include the following:

"All of which begs at least these questions:"

The phrase "begs the question" does not mean "raises the question" or "suggests the question". The phrase "begs the question" refers to a logical fallacy in which one assumes the very thing one sets out to prove. In other words, the conclusion assumes one or more of the premises. The latin name for the fallacy is 'petitio principii'.

Thank you for your post. This is a quibble, obviously, but proper usage of the English language helps establish credibility.

Trolls you should know that it was not CNN that discovered the error. It was a blog. CNN in its MSM way is reactionary and reacted.

That is all they know. And it brought you guys here to elaborate with your stunning logic and wisdom.

When is CNN really not wrong when it is wrong? When a blog points out a "mistake".

This tells you noting because since you already know it all you cannot be told anything, especially the obvious.

CNN Sucks comment #27 and Jeff comment #31:
I don't think you could classify John Kerry as a moron. He may have the charisma of a dead chicken, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Hitler was incredibly charismatic. So was Rasputin. I could go on, and challenge you to try it for yourself. Think of all the most incredibly charismatic people that you know of and 75% of them, maybe more, will not be someone you'd want as a president. Charisma is not all it's cracked up to be, and George isn't exactly charismatic himself. I'd read the essay I posted above, look who is writing it, and calling them all morons. You have been watching the MSM too long.

"What do you do when, instead of being greeted with flowers, you find your army is tied down by insurgents and you have no face-saving way to get out of the morass? If you are the moronic Bush administration, you blame someone else.

Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice, Cheney and Bush blame Syria and Iran for the troubles that they brought upon themselves. The Iraqi insurgency, say the Five Morons, is the fault of Syria and Iran."

The most important point is we know how far they will go to push the agenda, including murder. So far we here have escaped too much harm, but the petential is there for all of us. It is absolutely essential that we are vigilant and police all of their actions. Nothing is trivial, even if in retrospect, an event turns out to be relatively harmless.

Thank You, Larry, for that clarification. Acceptable usage and even meaning often change over time, because language is a living and evolving thing that refuses to become hard and inelastic, much to the consternation of the lexicographer, the grammarian and the pedant, and ain't it wonderful that it do? Fo' shizzle! I'm hooked on ebonics myself. Ever read read Bill Bryon's book, The Mother Tongue? Fascinating and very funny.

Get a life! I think you're the one who is playing the games here!

apparently Bob (#48) doesn't think accuracy is important. maybe he is so inured to slipshod reporting that he just don't notice anymore. a slip here, a slip there, it's all very innocent, nothing to see here.....

i, too, thought the twin photos were probably just an honest mistake, or sadly, more sloppy journalism. but that's not the point.

what other mistakes have been made that haven't been caughtt? if we don't pay attention and speak up, we deserve the sloppy journalism that we "enjoy" today.

I am no longer inclined to give *anyone* a pass since the war in Iraq has been waged on false evidence and false pretenses. i don't think we can't afford to be so permissive when there are thousands of lives at stake. wel