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By Brad Friedman on 7/14/2005 12:24PM  
Working Hard to Defend Alleged Treason in the White House
And BRAD BLOG Scoops AP...

Looks like we scooped AP with our report yesterday on Ambassador Joe Wilson's call for Bush to fire Rove last night. They're just now running their story on it.

Meanwhile, back at Disinfo Central...If you missed the Rush Limbaugh show this morning, you missed quite the lolapalooza. He's become positively unglued vis a vis the Plame/Rove affair. And it was a hoot!

The "theory" that Rush has been pummelling his Ditto Heads with all day: Joe Wilson has been a part of a double super secret background conspiracy with the DNC since day one, well before he was sent by the CIA to Niger.

Yes, that's right. According to Rush, the entire plan to send George W. Bush's own father's Man in Iraq --- a decades-long expert in African and Middle-Eastern affairs to Niger --- was all just a ploy by Democrats "to undermine the War in Iraq and the Bush Presidency," as Rush repeatedly described it.

We suppose then, that Bush 41's letter sent to Wilson saying that he concurred with much of the article that Wilson wrote prior to the war in the San Jose Mercury News was also part of that conspiracy.

Why is Dubya's own father trying to destroy Dubya's own "Presidency", dammit?!

Rush's final words at the end of the show (referring to the Press Conference scheduled by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) to happen shortly): "Chuck Shumer is Joe Wilson's 'handler' in this agency plot to bring down the President."

Good lord, these Right Wing Tin-Foil Hat wearers never fail to entertain.

Po' po' Rush he was even having trouble getting anything but callers who were supportive of Wilson today! Rush is in as much trouble today as his White House counterpart Scottie McClellan has been in all week in the WH press room.

We're also honored that Rush was unglued enough to refer to The BRAD BLOG as a "left wing blog" at the top of the show when he said that "Wilson was even speaking to left wing bloggers last night."

He didn't mention us by name though. Geez, we always give him full credit for everything he says. Oh, well.

Anyway...As reported here yesterday, Wilson appeared this morning on the TODAY Show. The video from his appearance is available at Crooks and Liars.

Buzz this story!


READER COMMENTS ON
"Rush Unglued Over RoveGate..."
(69 Responses so far...)

COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 7/14/2005 @ 12:28 pm PT...


Maybe a medical person on bradblog could recommend a tranquilizer for Rush.

Oh, that's right! I forgot. Sorry.


COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
... MarkH said on 7/14/2005 @ 12:46 pm PT...


When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

When you've done wrong everyone looks like an enemy.

When your boss is an idiot everyone else seems to be a genius (see: super secret Dem + CIA plan...).

BTW, how did Rush find out about the Wilson plan?
:cool:


COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
... Taguba said on 7/14/2005 @ 12:53 pm PT...


I did love the melt down. I laughed the whole time he was trying to explain How he still thought Hans Blix was a bafoon even after a caller lambasted him with the fact that Blix and Wilson were correct in their assesments of Iraq and Bush has NEVER been correct. In limbaughs drug induced haze, he could not find a proper comback for actual FACTS being thrown into his ever growing face. Facts SUCK for the GOP.


COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 7/14/2005 @ 12:53 pm PT...


Rush has been acting in concert with Ambassador Coulter, Undersecretary Hannity, and Deputy Secretary O'Reilly. Together they gathered evidence of Wilson's grand plot, and persuaded the first President Bush to join it.

You might wonder how these right-wing media folks obtained cabinet jobs in the first place. One day when W. was clearing brush at Crawford, Cheney was at an undisclosed location, and Congress was out of session, Rupert Murdoch made recess appointments in their absence.


COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
... Guckert said on 7/14/2005 @ 12:59 pm PT...


I wonder why it took KKKarl 2 years and the pressing incarceration of Cooper to come out of the closet and reveal that he was the one who did nothing wrong . If I was a GOP bottomfeeder about to enjoy lemon Chicken with two fruits and rice pilaf along with a great ocean view for 20+ years that lame excuse would make perfect sense....DUH


COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
... jimno said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:18 pm PT...


{Comment deleted for repeated, flagrant and extended inability to show common courtesy or follow the general rules of posting here. WP}


COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
... unirealist said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:18 pm PT...


"...this agency plot to bring down the President..."? Rush said that? Does that mean that Rush discerns a secret Liberal intent to this investigation? Or does it mean that Rush knows the President was involved in the Plame outing? Or does it mean that Karl Rove is the real President?


COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
... Mike said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:38 pm PT...


Where can I find a transcript of the show or a recording?

Thanks!!


COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
... cheryl said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:40 pm PT...


Jimmo,
Posting your article three times does not make it true. You actually sound like you are trying to convince yourself.

Rove shouldn't have been saying anything to Cooper about Wilson's wife at all, knowing that she worked at the CIA. By the way, how did he know that? And why would he care if Cooper thought Tenet was the push behind Wilson's appointment?

Anyway, if Rove is so innocent why did the White House deny for two years that he was involved at all in this mess, and why did he put Cooper and the country through all the stress and expense of the investigation before he finally stood up at the absolutely last minute and admitted he was involved?

Sorry hon. Your boy is caught and his goose will be cooked. Got nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the sleazy underhanded way this Administration operates.,


COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
... Bejammin075 said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:43 pm PT...


It's a crime that that oxycontin snorting fat ass is on armes services radio. how about some randi rhodes for balance?


COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
... mike beuershausen said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:52 pm PT...


Plamegate Schamegate. I'm anxiously awaiting the moment when the entire country realizes that Rove AND Limbaugh, and a number of other well-known right-wingers, are gay as geese. This CIA business has put Rove in the headlights --- just where he doesn't want to be. Now details of his personal life will begin to emanate, including the news of his White House romps with "Jeff Gannon." My goodness, what will the homophobic religious crazies say about so many of their protectors being secretly gay? Plamegate is just the beginning of Rove's problems.


COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
... cynicalgirl said on 7/14/2005 @ 1:56 pm PT...


I think Rush should be worried about his own impending frog march rather than Rove's.


COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
... Brent said on 7/14/2005 @ 2:20 pm PT...


Hell yes! Give them fightin' boys and girls some Randi Rhodes!

After all, they deserve the best.


COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
... Helena Handbasket said on 7/14/2005 @ 2:31 pm PT...


When the other half of Rush's brain finally breaks loose from being tied behind his back, the HazMat crews from 7 counties will have to be called in to clean up the fetid ooze that comes forth!

Just my opinion, anyway.


COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
... Helena Handbasket said on 7/14/2005 @ 2:32 pm PT...


When the other half of Rush's brain finally breaks loose from being tied behind his back, the HazMat crews from 7 counties will have to be called in to clean up the fetid stinking ooze that comes forth!


COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
... paul said on 7/14/2005 @ 2:34 pm PT...


glad to hear about rush.

everyone knows where rush is on this but this is the time to permanently 'out' rove's other, less obvious, media operatives.

now that rove's crew have decided on a strategy and sent out the talking points i hope progressives use this opportunity to point out (list) and marginalize all of those parroting defenders as paid bush media 'operatives'.

this is a golden opportunity to paint big, long lasting Ws on their often (wierdly) square and sizeable foreheads, especially those who often enjoy the freedom of appearing as 'moderate and thoughtful' commentators and who are now becoming accessories--eg Byron York, who was just out talking to hannity and hume.

also: Bush must have been in the loop on this-- it is the kind of thing rove knows W would enjoy---- revenge against wilson for undermining his fortress of certitude. and all those new angles from wayne madsen really look interesting too.

paul
NM

ps. you might enjoy my theory of the royal bush mindset
http://sexonthewrongbrain.org


COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
... COLLEEN said on 7/14/2005 @ 2:41 pm PT...


This is a great time be a liberal. God Damn!!
The truth is finally being seen by more and more people.
As I've said before, it's not about partician politics.
It's about the the TRUTH!
Once the Dems get some power back, then it will be about politics.


COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
... James said on 7/14/2005 @ 3:25 pm PT...


Why isn't Rush condemning the 'conspiracy theorists' today? Only the brazenness of this bunch of rats prevents their machinations from qualifying as a conspiracy. Andrew Sullivan, praised by Howard Kurtz (!?!?) for his "intellectual rigor" (sure thing) must be outed as a fool who can't tell shit from shinola except as regards networking for a job. He has many peers in that regard, for journalism is now just a dining club of bloated,fevered egos who think that they are celebrities, and not just replaceable parts in a corporate moneymaking device. If we ever want to get back to a decent standard of journalism, the conglomerates, both foreign and domestic, must be busted to atoms.
Douglas Feith, just on Gopher Blitzer's buttcam, continues to make the outrageous and false claims that have been discredited a hundred times over. And still pigheaded dupes like Jimmo believe them and endorse the "stupidest policy"(Colin Powell) ever borne of the meddling folls who make up our civilian command today. Nauseous!


COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
... Remote Exploit said on 7/14/2005 @ 3:57 pm PT...


Here's some liberal conspiracy theory:

The Wilsons are on the list of those that Bolton had surveilled - the list the WH won't release. The intercepts were done with his authorization because there was precedent with his office doing that occasionally, BUT it was ultimately through executive order.

It's obvious. It all ties together.


COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
... Reg said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:11 pm PT...


Kudos on the scoop, Brad! Great journalism and superb blogging! As to Rush.....he doesn't deserve the time and space you give him here. The man speaks to his own choir of weirdos most of the time, and is a diversion for others much as any comedy show might be. He's a joke and a half and people who take him seriously would never be anywhere but on the extreme right no matter what.

More distressing was the Wolf Blitzer interview with Wilson on CNN today. The entire interview was an interrogation of Wilson and his motives, - Wilson and his political affiliations, Wilson and Wilson and Wilson. This was not an interview about treason...but a ploy to put Wilson on the defensive, as if somehow, HE was responsible for what Rove did. Disgusting, but typical of CNN.


COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
... Julie said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:17 pm PT...


I urge everyone to read up on David Kelly!

The anniversary of his death is tomorrow.

Dr. David Kelly was a weapons inspector. He questioned the British runup to the war.

Said it was false...........and was found dead
a few days later.

He said in his last email....there are some very dark players involved in this. :( :(


COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
... Julie said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:18 pm PT...


I urge everyone to read up on David Kelly!

The anniversary of his death is tomorrow.

Dr. David Kelly was a weapons inspector. He questioned the British runup to the war.

Said it was false...........and was found dead
a few days later.

He said in his last email....there are some very dark players involved in this. :( :(


COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
... .50BMG said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:34 pm PT...


I cannot wait until they release this assholes' med records and he is indicted. God, I love America, justice is sweet - the longer it takes, the better it is.
FUCK ALL THE DITTOHEADS!!!


COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
... Remote Exploit said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:38 pm PT...


Here's some liberal conspiracy theory:

The Wilsons are on the list of those that Bolton had surveilled - the list the WH won't release. The intercepts were done with his authorization because there was precedent with his office doing that occasionally, BUT it was ultimately through executive order.

It's obvious. It all ties together.


COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
... Blackdog said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:58 pm PT...


What disease do these weird mf'ers have? I hope the implosion is beginning. It's about time. I'll have another slice of repuglican, please.


COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
... Kelly Killion said on 7/14/2005 @ 4:59 pm PT...


Since military recruiting has stooped to new lows and they are now enlisting overweight, middle-aged, blood-hungry recruits, it is time for for Rush to put his foot where his mouth is and sign up for a tour of duty in Iraq and finally give America some that "freedom and democracy" he touts, but which his blather chills.


COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
... Kelly Killion said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:00 pm PT...


Since military recruiting has stooped to new lows and they are now enlisting overweight, middle-aged, blood-hungry recruits, it is time for for Rush to put his foot where his mouth is and sign up for a tour of duty in Iraq and finally give America some that "freedom and democracy" he touts, but which his blather chills.


COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
... NewAmericanPatriot said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:16 pm PT...


A Citizens' Award for Rove:

http://aliberaldose.blogspot.com


COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
... tom said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:16 pm PT...


rush limpballs should learn to shutup,he"s gotta be a paid RNC operative,i think guys a psychotic like BUSHIE BOY,to much oxycontin has fried whats left of his brain,don"t you think? later,TOM. oh by the way bitchin website.


COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
... owlbear said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:30 pm PT...


I find it fascinating Rush continues to make the claim "They wanted to undermine Bush's Invasion of Iraq".

They obviously aren't reading the Polling on how a MAJORITY of Americans think the Invasion was a BAD IDEA.

Wilson stood up EARLY and said so! Went out on a limb to say so and was ATTACKED for being CORRECT...

That needs to be played up more I think?


COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
... Fletch said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:38 pm PT...


To think that this is where it all started from:
Photo of Bush preparing his State of the Union speech.

I wonder what Bush was saying during this picture...

"Whaddya mean we can't use the yellow-cake uranium sale intel? It's false!? Who said that? Wilson? He's one of our guys? Well, fiddlesticks. Let's just say the British think Iraq bought the yellow-cake from Niger - that way we can just say it was a mix up if I'm called on it.... Well, that's why they pay me the big bucks, hee hee. Thanks for your help Karl."


COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
... missinglink said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:45 pm PT...


Rush Limbaugh is but a high school graduate. He attempted college for one brief semester but flunked out. This is the man from whom MILLIONS of Americans get their political advice. So Sad!


COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
... redwine said on 7/14/2005 @ 5:50 pm PT...


One would suspect that Fat Boy Rush has run out of pills or maybe he took too many pills. What a genuine jerk and a scum bucket to boot...Thlis guy is one garbage bag full of hot air and kisses the eyes of the administration....Hell, nobody in the Bush clan can do no wrong and you see, in Rush's world, it is all those patriotic Democrats who are the "fall guys"...May the bird of paradise fly up your nose and infect your blood stream and whatever brain you may have!!


COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
... Mrs. K8 said on 7/14/2005 @ 6:19 pm PT...


Julie --

It may be very important to note that the last email from David Kelly you mentioned was sent to:

JUDITH MILLER.

Kelly had given her plenty of help for one of the books she wrote on WMD. I have the impression he mistakenly thought of her as a friend.

Oddly, when she wrote up a story about him after his death, she never mentioned a word about being his "friend" --- and while she mentioned email he had sent to another reporter earlier in the week, she never said word one about herself having received that cryptic email on the day he died.

Miller finds herself in the thick of almost every dark scandal. My hunch is that she went to prison to cloak herself in the First Amendment --- in order to avoid pleading the Fifth Amendment.

I've always seen her as a co-conspirator. And she can't allow herself to sit for the grand jury, because if she does plead the Fifth, all Fitzgerald would have to do would be grant her immunity...and then she couldn't hide behind the Fifth amendment after all.


COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
... Lothar said on 7/14/2005 @ 6:30 pm PT...


Some of the corporate-owned media journalists are starting to come around and act like real journalists. Even though they are coming around, let's not forget it's because they're more afraid of the left now than of the administration. They can see our white-hot rage and our determination has exceeded that of their critics on the right. They're fundamentally cowards and we should never be lulled into a false sense of security again. Destroy the corporate owned media! Destroy the corporations for that matter!


COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
... Steve J. said on 7/14/2005 @ 6:50 pm PT...


Like Mrs. K8, I'm also suspicious of Miller. She co-authored a book with Weekly Standard Wingnut Laurie Mylroie and was part of the stable of neo-con speakers at Benador Associates.


COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
... Sizemore said on 7/14/2005 @ 7:10 pm PT...


Oh, I pray to JEBUS that plenty of Bush's cronies take Rush seriously. Why? Because the last person that to do so ended up embarassing himself in front of millions of people and then joined the coalition of the unemployed (sans those $1,700-a-weekend junkets on the ol' man-whore circuit).


COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 7/14/2005 @ 8:07 pm PT...


Remote Exploit #24

BINGO you got it dude (or dudette).
only crime will tell
sorry "time" will tell


COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
... zola daniels said on 7/14/2005 @ 8:29 pm PT...


Send poor rush a calm down pill! What trash will he put out when Downing Minutes prove we were lied to.A war on lies. Our poor service men and women dead because of lies. As for Mr. Wilson he will prove also that Rove and administration did all for revenge and didn't think Wilson could be a problem. HA HA
THINK AGAIN ROVE Always give enough rope and they that are evil like Rove will hang themselves


COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
... XPIOLT said on 7/14/2005 @ 9:30 pm PT...


Rush is a big fat Nazi loving freak as are most of the neo-cons, but, what some of you are failing to either realize or are just refusing to look at the facts, most of the neo-liberals, the Clintons for one are Nazi loving freaks as well. If you want to see the whole picture then step a few feet further back and another long look. Yes, there is very little difference. The neo-cons and the neo-liberals both want to take our rights, what rights we have left, and more. Its not a conspiracy theory it is a conspiracy! The Zionists that control this country have no partiality whether its republican or democrat as long as the out come is the same, world domination. May this Rove conspiracy wake many more up to the bigger picture.


COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
... Joe F. said on 7/14/2005 @ 9:42 pm PT...


As Private Pyle said in Full Metal Jacket, "I am in a world of shit"


COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
... greyskies in FloriDUH said on 7/14/2005 @ 9:51 pm PT...


I'm with Ms. K8 and Steve J. But I take their speculation one step further. What if Judith "I'm an ethical journalist and willing to go to jail to safeguard my ethics and sources" was really Bob Novak's "non-partisan" source that had allegedly spoken to him regarding Valerie Wilson and her alleged involvement with the decision to send Joseph Wilson to Niger. See the article in the NYT today that provides cover to the neoCONS by spinning Novak having first talked with a non-partisan source who confirmed Valerie Wilson/Plame's alleged involvement, and her role at the CIA. Then, supposedly he spoke with Rove who asked "You know about that? (quotations meant figuratively, as I do not recall verbatim the substance of the quote attributed to Rove when speaking to Novak, but close enough".

I just bet that the MSM's sweetheart du jour, Judith Miller (she who fought the evil Special Prosecutor to make America safe for journalists and anonymous sources), is in this up to her beady little eyeballs, and has run for cover under the blanket of journalistic standards and ethics, when indeed, she is doing nothing more than a fancy two-step dance to avoid having to publicly admit that she is really asserting her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.


COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
... Peg C said on 7/14/2005 @ 11:35 pm PT...


OMG. Something is going extinct in a hurry - and it isn't stupidity. This slug is killing off the roots of thought. He should have been euthanized in the '80's - he's toxic now. Because people are so much dumber.


COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
... Peg C said on 7/14/2005 @ 11:50 pm PT...


Mrs K8 #34 -

Amen!


COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
... Peg C said on 7/14/2005 @ 11:56 pm PT...


XPIOLT #40 -

We may be on the same page.


COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
... Doug Eldritch said on 7/15/2005 @ 1:56 am PT...


What if it was actually Judith Miller who snuck the suicide pills in, for David Kelly?

They had a relationship and then....What? Slipped the pills to him? Wow what an interesting twist....

All because, Judith Miller was on marching orders for Cheney. Fix the facts to fit the policy.....

Doug E.


COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
... Jack said on 7/15/2005 @ 2:40 am PT...


Old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard
To fetch poor Rove(r) a bone

When she bent over Rove(r) took over
He had his own bone :blush:


COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
... THE SHADOWDRAGON said on 7/15/2005 @ 4:56 am PT...


'Bout time ol' "Oxycotin-moron" got a spoonful of his just desserts. When you constantly spread a message designed to inflame hate-mongers, you just can't have anything to do with the truth. Hmph. "Rush is Right" my ass.
"Right" for a model hypocrite, along with his buddies at Fox News.
"Right" for drinking the Bush administration Kool-Aid (and foaming at the mouth afterwards).
"Right" for misleading otherwise good people who plain just don't know any better.
"Right" for a jail cell, when his OWN investigation concludes.
...and...
"PERFECTLY RIGHT" to defend a man who is a TRAITOR to the United States of America, to her national security, to her military members serving in wartime in Afghanistan and Iraq, and to all her people at home.
I would say "birds of a feather flock together" but birds are a beautiful species, and that has NOTHING to do with these right-wingnut, egotistical, blowhard, traitorous, TREASONOUS monstrosities that pollute our airwaves and occupy our government.


COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
... Rick Vance said on 7/15/2005 @ 5:33 am PT...


Why are we taking anything Rush Limbaugh has to say seriously? This is the posterboy for right-wing media corruption and dishonesty. This doctor shopping, pill popping gas bag wouldn't know the truth unless he had a prescription for it! What I find to be absolutely fascinating is the fact that these very same neo-cons turned Bill Clinton into Satan himself for lying about oral sex with an intern. What violations of national security occurred while Monica was on her knees? And yet you would have thought that Slick Willie had sold our nuclear launch codes to the Chinese from the way these so-called journalists on the ultra-right acted! What a bunch of transparent, mentally challenged hypocrites! And for any of those on the far right, your 15 minutes of fame and moment in the sun are up. Continuing to try and prop up a failed and possibly criminal administration only shows how desperate and moronic these hacks (Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Coulter) really are. They are scared to death that the right-wing gravy train they've been riding on for the last four and half years is coming to a screeching halt. Maybe Rush can ask for the cell next to Karl's so they can commiserate with each other and think back to the glory days when the almost suceeded in turning America into a one party fascist theocracy.


COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
... Rick Vance said on 7/15/2005 @ 5:34 am PT...


Why are we taking anything Rush Limbaugh has to say seriously? This is the posterboy for right-wing media corruption and dishonesty. This doctor shopping, pill popping gas bag wouldn't know the truth unless he had a prescription for it! What I find to be absolutely fascinating is the fact that these very same neo-cons turned Bill Clinton into Satan himself for lying about oral sex with an intern. What violations of national security occurred while Monica was on her knees? And yet you would have thought that Slick Willie had sold our nuclear launch codes to the Chinese from the way these so-called journalists on the ultra-right acted! What a bunch of transparent, mentally challenged hypocrites! And for any of those on the far right, your 15 minutes of fame and moment in the sun are up. Continuing to try and prop up a failed and possibly criminal administration only shows how desperate and moronic these hacks (Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Coulter) really are. They are scared to death that the right-wing gravy train they've been riding on for the last four and half years is coming to a screeching halt. Maybe Rush can ask for the cell next to Karl's so they can commiserate with each other and think back to the glory days when the almost suceeded in turning America into a one party fascist theocracy.


COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
... unirealist said on 7/15/2005 @ 6:39 am PT...


GIF, #42--- you may be on to something. Novak had two sources, one that fed him the info on Plame, and another that confirmed. Rove was the one who confirmed (although he tries to spin it so that he just commented, "oh, yeah, I heard that, too.") Do you suppose Miller actually GOT the info from Rove, passed it to Novak, and SUGGESTED that he confirm it with Rove? Tricky way for Rove to cover his tracks--his modus operandi. And that does explain perfectly why Miller's in prison now; if she talks it's the death knell for Rove.

I still think that the plot was hatched in the Oval Office, however, and leads back to Bush/Cheney. Even if Rove initiated the leak, there were conversations at highest levels that preceded it. SOMEBODY ordered the search for damaging info on Wilson. It didn't just happen.


COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
... big dan said on 7/15/2005 @ 8:03 am PT...


Even the nutcases who listen to Rush Limbaugh must be sick of his whining.


COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
... Jen said on 7/15/2005 @ 8:31 am PT...


I liken Rush to the raving lunatic madman on the street, shouting loudly, but making zero sense. He's an attention whore and will do anything to get people to notice him. Wonder if he's been mixing some PCP in with the oxycontin?


COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
... Sam Clemenson said on 7/15/2005 @ 9:06 am PT...


These guys make Sadam Hussein look honest (at least he told the truth about not having any WMDs). Rush is sounding more like Baghdad Bob every day.


COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
... Peggy said on 7/15/2005 @ 11:24 am PT...


Rush is full of ...

There is no SECRET PLOT to bring down the Bush Presidency.

It, in fact, is a LOUD and very PUBLIC demand and goal of the majority of the American people, who did not vote for Bush, to have Bush and his administration removed from office!

SECRET PLOT, my foot...


COMMENT #56 [Permalink]
... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 7/15/2005 @ 11:39 am PT...


Ask yourselves one question, and the whole issue of Rove/Plame becomes much clearer.

"What legitimate reason would Karl Rove, a political adviser to George W. Bush, have for soliciting (or being given) information about the identity of an undercover C.I.A. operative?"

There is no innocent reason for Rove, who at the time had no role in policy making, to have been the least bit concerned about Valerie Plame one way or the other, and no reason for Judith Miller, Robert Novak, Matt Cooper or any other journalist to have either offered information to Rove about Valerie Plame or to have received the same from him.

The fact that Rove, a political adviser to Bush, was involved at all (even if his role was only to confirm her identity to Novak), can mean one thing only. THE IDENTITY OF VALERIE PLAME AS A C.I.A. OPERATIVE, A MATTER THAT MUST ALWAYS BE DIVORCED FROM POLITICS, WAS REVEALED IN A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED ACT. No other explanation is possible, and nothing more is needed to know that Rove must be fired.


COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
... Peg C said on 7/15/2005 @ 12:00 pm PT...


Greyskies -

Right on.


COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 7/15/2005 @ 12:15 pm PT...


David Kelly and Judith Miller had a strange relationship ,maybe she's "deep cover" ?


COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
... Jody said on 7/15/2005 @ 12:27 pm PT...


I have to agree with Rick Vance, #52. This really isn't much more outrageous than any of the daily trash on any of these shows.
Transparent is right. The people who believe this stuff are going to believe it no matter how many times we prove it false.


COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
... Tom3 said on 7/15/2005 @ 1:14 pm PT...


Quit bogarting those drugs, Rush...pass them over this way. Dubya and Karl both want some.


COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
... Gary Buell said on 7/15/2005 @ 2:09 pm PT...


Interesting that Rush referred to an "agency plot." I have been saying for some time that Bush has pissed off the CIA--never a good idea for a President.


COMMENT #62 [Permalink]
... bob said on 7/15/2005 @ 3:42 pm PT...


For a new concept in independent media, check this site:

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COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
... big dan said on 7/15/2005 @ 4:36 pm PT...


Rush is just having an "Oxycotin Moment".......


COMMENT #64 [Permalink]
... shannon said on 7/15/2005 @ 9:33 pm PT...


Is Rush still insisting that anyone involved with illegal mind altering drugs go to prison for a long time and anyone involved with providing drugs should be given the death penalty? Just wondering


COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
... mikefromtexas said on 7/15/2005 @ 11:01 pm PT...


I quit listening to rush long ago. I know a meth head and a couple crack whores who tell the truth more often than pigboy.....


COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
... zzydeco Boudreaux said on 7/16/2005 @ 4:40 am PT...


After Rush came out of rehab I stopped calling his listeners Dittoheads. I think a more accurate description is Oxy-morons. I wonder how he gets his marching orders from Karl Rove every day? I bet he also has a government contract with Homeland security to educate the public on White House security issues.


COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
... Johnny Olsen said on 7/16/2005 @ 11:07 am PT...


You Rush are a total ass. All bought and paid for like everyone else. Why don't you put on a uniform over your fat behind and get over there and fight for someone else's freedom???
You "Talk a good war."


COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
... Will said on 8/15/2005 @ 12:40 pm PT...


Ah, Rush is laughing all the way to the bank and you morons let a mouse run over your keyboard, hit the send button and think you've made a sensible argument. What must it be like to be in a continued minority status, losing election after election. Isn't the minority party suppose to pick up seats in off year elections? Why does the stupid Bush keep beating you at every turn? To loose seats in the House, Senate, governorships..and the White House is a pathetic showing. I thought you guys were going to whip the GOP's ass after Sore-Loserman in 2000. You didn't even have the courage to run that loser again, but selected Franken-lurch instead. Talk about a loser bench. What was it.. a 3.5 million vote whipping? And then that trifecta of Sharpton, Kucinich...and Dean the Scream. I'm still hearing the CNN loop of his Iowa debacle (but thanks for probbing up the ad community). It's getting a little boring winning all the time. C'mon guys...put up a fight. Perhaps Cindy's other son is willing to die for your cause. Someone has to be laid to rest.


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... a said on 10/15/2005 @ 5:45 pm PT...


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