Fear not Bradbloggers. WP will be there to clean up my mess...I hope.

Hey Jaime #1

Thanks for an alternative to the Cannon "article". I hope someone's gonna clean up THAT mess! (See my posts #30, #53, #134). The longer it goes on, the worse it's gonna get.

From Brad's single comment back there, it looks like he's trying to defend Cannon. Not defensible, I say/ said. You know (I hope) how much I support Brad's efforts, and how much I admire his sane voice. I can't remember him ever having put a foot wrong before in his efforts to speak the truth. If I am following things correctly, so far at least, he's just done that, planned or unplanned, and that misstep is a whopper. Talk to the guy, please. Time for damage control, I do believe.

VG

I'm with Hastert. Not that now's the time to talk about it but there's no sense in building a city seven to ten feet below sea level when we're looking at a significant increase in hurricane frequency and magnitude. Let's face the facts, global warming is going to have an effect on our weather and we should be prepared to move to higher ground. Rebuilding a city below sea level is the most asinine idea we collectively could stand behind. The world is changing and society needs to learn to change with it.

The liberals would appreciate it if you could keep your common sense off this blog. Thank you.

Common sense is what separates liberals from you.

VG...

I try to stay away from commenting on Brad's editorial decisions. The radio show is another matter.

Joseph has the right to blog what he likes here until told otherwise. I enjoy the same priveledge. Brad did what he felt what he had to do. If he defended Mr. Cannon, then he feels what he had to say is relevent. Whether he agrees or not is different matter.

Thank you for your continued support ValleyGirl.

jaime, your post was fine, except for that exceedingly ugly photo. Thanks for ruining my supper. ~~gigglesnort~~

valleygirl, I so much appreciate your speaking out! You really can't know how much it means to me....really.

Y'know, I've been thinking for two or three days now...... all those folks at the Superdome, and the convention center are MARTYRS. We are such a crisis oriented society, and I think we all knew it was going to take a huge death toll like this to get the attention of the press and the USians. I grieve so deeply that these are the people who are paying the price for that colossal willful hardheartedness. I don't want them to die, but I've made phone call after phone call, and there's really nothing much more I can do.

Is there any way we can at least memorialize those who have served as our conscience? It's tearing me up to see them die, but can we at least somehow create a memorial to them, to thank them in some way for waking up our press and our citizens? (Afraid our Dem leaders are still snoozing.......)

I guess I'm trying to find some way to ease the pain. This is sooooo horrible.......

Thanks valleygirl.... it helps so much that you're here.

White people find things. Black people loot things.

From catastrophe to chaos: Gunfire, corpses left in the open

Hurricane survivors lash out at city

Superdome scene: almost a grim parody of Mardi Gras

Fights and gunfire break out as New Orleans slips into anarchy

Much more...

AP offers detailed satellite image of New Orleans

The hell with the trolls, karl rove, denny hastert, george bush and even Cindy Sheehan! Civility is gone, broken. Massive numbers of people are dying. Who the fuck cares about that?

Jaime #6

Thanks for writing back. I trust/ hope that you did read the comments of mine that I referenced.

And, thanks for the explanation about BB vs. Brad Show, and thanks for all of your pro bono efforts to keep the Brad Show up and running. Best radio I've ever heard, right from the get-go, hiccups and all. You have my continued support. Made a BB $$$ donation earlier today, BTW, now that pay day has finally come. That was before the Cannon MESS, but even after, I would have done the same, even though it's probably apparent that I disagree with Brad's editorial decision on that one.

Best to you, Jaime.

VG

"...coal black heart." Wrong-rational mind. If we rebuild (with, or without federal money) this disaster will happen again. Only question is when. Another generation cursed to go through another disaster because we were to intransigent to speak the obvious. This is the time to face the obvious and act like rational beings.

When the chips are down, liberals whine cry and blame Bush for everything, including the weather.

It a good thing the majority of this country knows who to elect and who not to.

I could remind people here that some very hefty lefty physical geologists and ecologists have been saying that NO should be allowed to rebuild its soil for many years and that the delta region should be allowed to repair its barrier saltmarshes - the ONLY natural defense aginst tidal disasters of this magnitude. NO is sinking BECAUSE of the levees. Perhaps rebuilding must be done - it surely must - but in well-thought-out, creative and sustainable ways.

The Corp of Engineers report that they were granted $3 million to work on the levees but they "could have spent $20 million" (link here).

That $20 million they were refused is going to become untold billions now. If that ever comes. Oh how fiscally wise the neoCon bu$hit hypocrits are ... NOT.

I mean they dolled out $8,000,000,000 (eight billion) CASH to Iraqi war lords to spread it around to buy votes or whatever (and it got "lost"), but these MF's can't give an all american city (where the super dome is, where the womb of jazz is) a measly $20 million?

Guess why? The people there are primarily poor black folk who are democrats ... very nice humble and soft spoken americans who have a lot of love.

KKKarl and the bu$hit gang, and of course dennie "the compassionate" asshurt are all really not giving a flying f..k about some poor democrats.

But I am sure old trent lottsa$ will have his place rebuilt.

I mean hell folks, after all, we are at war spending $300,000,000,000 (and climbing steep) in Iraq to .... to ... well fact is we ain't thru spendin there ... when we do then we will give New Orleans americans their $20 million ...

I can not believe it. The criminal world has the full support of too many blind, caloused, and ignorant people.

The criminal world has moved to DC and have turned the white house into a whore house and are being worshipped for it by too many ... it must stop NOW.

Bend over america, when georgie gets thru with you you gonna have the holland tunnel you know where.

#7 Superwoman

Need another hug?

I very much hope that the memorial idea you are suggesting will come to pass. I'll surely remember where I heard it first. Not that it will... (well, you know)... except in the sense that the VietNam memorial has had it's impact. (Trying to be brief here- I trust you can fill in the blanks).

I really admire your "practical" spirit. BB commenters come from...where ever. But, the "best" of them just keep on trying to get the message out- reading the news what there is of it (no TV, me) and searching for truth on the internet, then posting good links, and doing all of the good things outside BB, like you do, that are invisible to BBers unless we make them known. I do get frustrated with the posters who simply/only complain or rant-- (methinks, well why don't you shut up and do something *practical*?) Hope this makes sense.

Oh, I hope I don't sound callous by not talking too much about my immediate emotional reaction to the NO tragedy. I'm feeling numb just now. A pattern with me that I know by now-- it takes a while for me to really register the magnitude of a tragic loss, and then it hits me, full force.

VG

Would Iraqi sand do ,image bringing the troops home with a sandbag each ,it would be a great start.

Superwoman #7

Yes, they are Martyrs, by the scope of this national disgrace. I can't watch it on tv, somehow I feel like it gives them more dignity as they die. Just me. But my son said Olberman was really speaking out about it, and speaking up for the people suffering.
This is a disgrace, I grieve with you.

Lets remember that some very successful and popular countries like "holland" where the beautiful windmills are, happen to exist "below sea level".

That is not as bad as being below see level like scamator asshurt is.

The Corps of Engineers have been warned of the dangers for decades (link here). But neither they nor the bu$hit fascist neoCons could give a ---- about the poor folk of america in New Orleans.

They are being treated like the poor black american folk in Ohio were ... (when all they wanted to do was vote).

In New Orleans all they want to do is live a peaceful american life ... but the bu$hit gang are too busy with their crimes abroad and with the wasting of billions and billions and billions and billions of our dollars to "bring democrazy to Iraq".

Yep, they are too busy spending those big homeland (i.e. where "good" people live) "security" bucks to bring security to americans in New Orleans.

Hey ... I know ... put turd blossom on it. Lotsa people think that fascist is cool.

And he is ... his heart is about 300 below zero. The coolest ... he is so cold that even georgie likes him.

"When the chips are down, liberals whine cry and blame Bush for everything"

So tell me again about the Clinton recession and Gorelick wall? How about WTC bombing #1?

"It a good thing the majority of this country knows who to elect and who not to."

That's the best you got. Bush won 2004...nanny nanny boo boo? Where'd his Mandate go? Huh? The American people are feeling serious buyers remorse, that's why Social Security reform when down the shitter. That's why the MAJORITY of the country is AGAINST the war in Iraq (sucks being a minority, doesn't it Ricky?). Keep it up though. Many a King were dethroned by their hubris.

If you have a gun in the house, get rid of it before next election season, because the idiotic pride you exude in a Republican President with 35-42% approval and Republican Congress barely breaking 30% you may do something to yourself you can't take back.

Anderson Cooper and Keith Olbermann REALLY let loose tonight. Anderson surprised me: he let Landrieu have it with both barrels! The situation is surreally horrifying, it surpasses anything I could have imagined happening in this supposed "land of the free and home of the brave." We've spent the last three days in tears; now it's howls.

I wrote this a few days back - it's not "callousness" as you think, stop and think about what you are asking to REPEAT.

Nightline had a story on last night about New Orleans (yes, I actually watched a television) and the damage done by Katrina. Late in the segment was a proposal by some geologist (I think) that New Orlean’s build a 25 foot “sea wall” around the entire city. Strangely, it never seems to occur to anyone that the city shouldn’t be rebuilt in a major floodzone. New Orleans sits below sea level and “sea surge” from high winds can swamp the levies presently used to hold back the ocean.

So they hope to compound the root problem of locating the city in a non-habitable zone by building a higher wall. Maybe. That is, if they listen this time. This proposal was over five years old and was reportedly tabled. Now a significant portion of New Orleans is ruined.

What I find strange about this 20-20 hindsight is how we do not apply logic and reason to our decisions. There was no economic reason to build the sea wall - and my guess, there won’t be after the city is rebuilt either. After all, the big one finally hit (although it wasn’t really the BIG ONE) and the odds are, it won’t hit again for a long time. Maybe. But that is what humans do - play the odds. We have been playing the odds with our environment is a similiar manner for decades. We build where we shouldn’t and complain when our houses slide off into the ravines or the brushfires destroy them to cinders or earthquakes reduce them to rubble. It simply never occurs to builders, architects and city planners - and home owners, that they’ve no business building or living there in the first place.

Billions of dollars in insurance claims later, the question comes up - but nothing ever changes. Humans keep doing stupid things, like they always do, until they mess it up so badly that it’s totally unfixable - like Pompeii, enshrining stupidity for eternity. We think we control nature - but how silly this is, when evidence abounds throughout the history of the world that just the opposite is true. So we keep playing the odds, hoping against hope that it won’t happen again.

But of course it will.

The real reason this stuff keeps happening throughout the world is because of greed. Sensible construction (and location) doesn’t make cents, so we don’t do it. It’s far easier to gamble the human lives involved then to build wisely. Which makes you and I worth, oh - say about $1,000? Less? More? While I’m not sure of the actual figure, the fact is, there IS a figure that can be placed upon every human life by the architects of this life. Now, I’m digressing a little bit here, but every human decision as it relates to civilization is about money, even if it eventually costs human lives. No regard is given to non-human lives, species extinctions continue unabated.

So I think we can safely bet the odds are - no sea wall will be built as proposed. It will simply cost too much. And there is utterly no hope that the city would be relocated or built on higher ground, this is an unthinkable act.

Future civilizations, if there are any, will undoubtedly perform the same senseless decisions, unless and finally, until mankind wakes up and acknowledges that he is most definitely NOT master of his environment and thankfully, never will be.

Where would you have us live that isn't in some potential disaster zone? Let's all move to Kansas...until our house gets demolished by a twister.

We as human beings, in the numbers we are, can't 'live amongst the trees'. Yes, we have to take our chances. That is what we do. Living on a cliff in Malibu that tumbles into the ocean a few inches a year is different from living in New Orleans.

We NEED New Orleans. That's why it was built. That's why it was populated and has been in existence for 400 years. Everything off the Alabama and Missisppi coast for a half mile was demolished. What do you do then? Just keep moving more and more inland? There is NO place in Florida safe from a Hurricane. What do you do. Say fuck it and abandon it?

No. Better construction. Newer technologies. Better disaster planning. If it works for Europe and Asia, it works for us.

And I hate to tell you this, but everytime you get up from your bed in the morning you are playing the odds. Put that Cheese on your hamburger. Breathe that city air. Dare to step foot in a car and drive. We take these risks because we have to.

Call it arrogant. I'll call it necessity.

MANSLAUGHTER, INVOLUNTARY - In order for a person to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter the government must prove that someone was killed as a result of an act by the person;

1000s dead

Second, in the circumstances existing at the time, the person's act either was by its nature dangerous to human life or was done with reckless disregard for human life;

Diverting funds away from levee repair

Third, the person either knew that such conduct was a threat to the lives of others or knew of circumstances that would reasonably cause the person to foresee that such conduct might be a threat to the lives of others.

Recieved memos and reports that this is in the top 10 list of disasters that will happen if not fixed.

:angry:

Whether it's a good idea to rebuild NO or not, the time to discuss that is certainly NOT NOW. Hastert is indeed an SOB for voicing his self-righteous contempt for people who may be sentimentally attached to their home town. How dare they be dreaming and praying for things to be like they were just a few days ago. Let's be sure to tell the hundreds of thousands of desperate refugees that we're pretty sore at them for living in such a poorly designed city which is now going to cost us a bazillion dollars. Why, current estimates are that the price-tag to bring some kind of order to the catastrophe zone is over 200 billion dollars. We don't have money to spend on mainly poor black share-cropper types.

That's where Hard-hearted Hastert The Compassionate Bastert is coming from when he talks about N'awleans. He DOES have 200 billion to piss away getting our young men and women killed in Iraq. I've heard words about rebuilding Baghdad. I guess that city and its people are more worthy.

And while we're creating this scale of deservingness, let's ask where the World Trade Center victims stand. Well after that horrible event, people in the know began to talk about the cheesy design and construction of those giant buildings. It turns out that for nearly 40 years people had known that they were the biggest, but by no means the safest. Where one would expect an almost excessive use of redundancy in all matters of strength, access and egress, fire-control, and communications, one found instead a sense of skimpiness.
Didn't many of the people who worked there express concern about the place? Yet they persisted in working there. Why pay them or their survivors?

The toughest thing in all of this is that the whole disaster in NO and the rest of the Gulf was predicted by scientists for years, and they even laid out ways of diminishing the ill-effects of even a killer-storm like Katrina. Really prudent behavior on the part of the government would involve heeding the warnings of scientists and following up by taking the steps outlined--BEFORE the rains come.

Thanks to our host for creating this oasis for weary liberals who often feel they are wandering in the desert, alone, frightened, and resentful of the sadistic bullies who've put us here.

Armond Aserinsky
North Wales, PA USA

It seems our governmental "hero", FEMA director Michael Brown hasn't extracted himself from deep do-do he got into last year. I intend to send this to my city paper, and would suggest that many of you might consider the same. If the media really is opening up a bit, maybe......

http://www.sun-sentinel....y?coll=sfla-news-utility
Legislators urge FEMA inquiry over Miami-Dade payments

By Sally Kestin and
Megan O'Matz Staff Writers
Posted November 24 2004

Florida lawmakers Tuesday called for state and federal investigations into how the government approved about $28 million in Hurricane Frances claims for new furniture, clothes and appliances for residents of Miami-Dade County, which was barely touched by the storm.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency "made a lot of mistakes and wasted a lot of taxpayer money," said U.S. Rep. Clay Shaw, R-Fort Lauderdale. In a letter Tuesday, Shaw asked the House Select Committee on Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA, to conduct a hearing.
~~snip~~
Meanwhile, U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Boca Raton, said he will ask the Government Accountability Office, the watchdog arm of Congress, to investigate. State Sen. Walter "Skip" Campbell, D-Fort Lauderdale, called for a criminal investigation.
~~snip~~
Shaw wrote to FEMA Director Michael D. Brown six weeks ago, after the newspaper first reported that thousands of Miami-Dade residents had collected hurricane relief from the Labor Day storm that hit 100 miles to the north. Brown announced that FEMA would investigate, but so far has not provided any results or returned phone calls from the congressman's staff, said Shaw, chairman of Florida's delegation.

dum-de-dum-dum......

Are *any* of these people capable of doing anything honestly???

Ted Koppel ripped into him a bit tonight, poor baby.

Its a bit like flying ,when things are fine and its a milk run ,an average pilot is ok but when there's trouble thats when you want the "Intelligent ,level-headed ,highly trained ,experienced pilot" ,after all your life depends on them .
These are troubled times ,natural and man-made.

Its a bit like flying ,when things are fine and its a milk run ,an average pilot is ok but when there's trouble thats when you want the "Intelligent ,level-headed ,highly trained ,experienced pilot" ,after all your life depends on them .
These are troubled times ,natural and man-made.

this just keeps getting more and more ridiculous!

from sploid.com via HuffPo:

FEMA Directing Hurricane Donations to Pat Robertson

To All:

It seems to me, the more I learn of this crisis in LA, MS and AL, the more I worry that society is really at its breaking point.

In the late 1960's, my dad told me, he feared that we were seeing the end of the USA. The unrest, the unpopular war, etc.

Today on the radio, I heard that at the NO Convention Center, people are about to riot.

Just like 1968 in Chicago.

I feel the same now that my dad did in 68.

Early this morning, I told my wife about the slowness of the response that Bush and the neocons were providing. And she replied, "Good. The people will now know what he [Bush] is all about."

My God. What a lesson to learn... how many thousands have to die to learn that Bush should never have been allowed in power?

Earlier on Morning Sedition program on Air America, they told me something that is so true. The neocons (like our friend Denny Hastert!) only know one thing... how to win elections. They neither know nor care about taking care of the people of the USA. I think that MS was correct.

May God have mercy on all of us.

"Compassionate conservative." My Aunt Fannie.

And another thing.

How can anyone advocate smaller government (so that it can fit down the drain of a bathtub, as one neocon put it), when we need the government to respond to disasters such as this?

We need a government the correct size in order to respond properly to these problems.

Ricky, John (the shithead one)..

Look.. While it might be a bad idea to "build below sea level".. the REAL problem is how Businesses only care about money.. and pay lots of that to Government officials who dismiss SCIENCE so they can get rich.. Environmentalists have been saying ALL ALONG that we need to protect wet-lands.. we need to protect the things NATURE put in place to mitigate this kind of crap.. When (greedy ignorant) humans get involved, we have BIG PROBLEMS. Kinda like this.

So.. you think we need to abandon NO cause it's in a bad spot.. ok.. then where do those unemployed poor black folks go? Where else can they live, in the U.S., that is warm enough year round that their not having money for heating oil/gas isn't an issue? Oh.. wait.. the gulf coast.. hmm.. As someone else pointed out above.. if we want to move all the people "out of danger zones", where do we put them? There are precious few "safe places" in the U.S... and we need to be in places where people can work.. all those factories need to be moved.. to where? should all 300 million people live in the 6 states in the middle of the U.S. so we don't have much to worry about? though, a tornado would sure mess up your day then..

Bottom line is, the right wing of our society cares about money and "mememememe".. like Ricky and John (the shithead one).. They are content to "apply thought and reason" ONLY when it gets (or saves) them money, or is in their own best interest.. when us "lefties" suggest NOT destroying natural resources, they call us whiners and panzies and tree-huggers and talk about how converting that area "helps them" (usually with a misplaced argument about how it could help the economy, which only really helps the economy of a few rich pricks)..

New Orleans needs to be rebuilt, period. If the price tag is too high, stop funding a broken governemnt in Iraq.. get our troops home and have them get to work building in New Orleans.. Stop building oil rigs in Iraq and rebuild (or fix) the ones in our waters.. Stop giving $12 BILLION to oil companies when they are making record profits, and put that money in a CITY where 100s of thousands or AMERICANS live, stop giving it to a dozen or so super-rich folks who don't need it..

In short.. shut up.. have some decency.. stop trying to apply reason in tiny doses to only things that are good for YOU and try applying reason to things that are good for EVERYONE, even if it means YOU -might- have to sacrafice a little..

Superwoman #24 -

"Are *any* of these people capable of doing anything honestly???"

No, of course not. Their very grounding is obfuscation, shell-games, now-you-see-it-now-you-don't sleight of hand. NOT ONE THING in the current government has been what it was represented to be!

Regarding Comment #23....Please note that Armond Aserinski used his post to disseminate false information (disinformation) regarding the structural integrity of the World Trade Center.

People, please be aware that there are people on this board (some working for government agencies, some with their own agendas) who are giving out false information and outright lies in an effort to steer public opinion.

Comment #30, Mr. Bluesky, posing as someone against the 'neo-cons' is advocating bigger government--something we already have. Bigger does mean better. We need responsible government, not bigger government. Again, likely another dis-info agent.

I have three remarks re comment #32 from "Disinfo checker"

Regarding Comment #23....Please note that Armond Aserinski used his post to disseminate false information (disinformation) regarding the structural integrity of the World Trade Center.

This point is well taken and I imagine many of us noted it without being told; good catch, though It is of course quite possible that Mr. Aserinski is misinformed rather than being deliberately deceptive; nobody knows for sure except the author of the comment.

there are people on this board (some working for government agencies, some with their own agendas) who are giving out false information and outright lies in an effort to steer public opinion.

I think this is quite obvious but again there may be readers who have not noticed, so thanks for reminding us all...

Comment #30, Mr. Bluesky, posing as someone against the 'neo-cons' is advocating bigger government--something we already have. Bigger does mean better. We need responsible government, not bigger government. Again, likely another dis-info agent.

Here I disagree with you and I think you have either misunderstood his comment or else you are deliberately misrepresenting it. I'll assume the former until or unless I see evidence indicating otherwise.

This is genocide in america. When has george bush done anything to help this country? He is guilty of treason in the plame outing...write your reps. and senators and ask for impeachment proceedings to start immediately. Now, at least the world can see we are held hostage by a mad man and an evil cabal.

I agree Winter Patriot, I think "Armond" is a right-wing disinfo specialist. The Twin Towers were VERY structurally sound and in fact survived in 1978 a MUCH hotter, longer lasting and larger fire without coming anywhere NEAR collapsing. 9/11 is the only time in recorded history in which ANY skyscrapers have ever even been accused of collapsing from "fire" (and just in watching the video footage of it is enough to see "fire" didn't cause their "collapses" on 9/11 either). The Twin Towers had forty-seven huge core support columns plus over a hundred smaller ones. Far from being a "cheesy design" as the Republinazi shill "Armond" put it, the Twin Towers had many redundancies built into them to make them strong and safe even in the event part of it was compromised. Fire would never have brought those towers down. To "Armond" and any other right wing nutbags I hereby DARE you to watch the actual video footage of the "collapses" of the Twin Towers and WTC # 7 [hit by no airplane and no significant debris] and tell me if these are not painfully obvious controlled demolitions. You don't have to be a demolitions expert or an engineer to be able to plainly see the explosions and see the "squibs" of dust jetting out of windows near the blasts. Watch as each tower comes down in nine seconds [more than ten floors "collapsing" per second!!] which is the rate of something falling through air unopposed, a feat impossible by the laws of physics UNLESS massive amounts of explosives were used to disintegrate everything holding the building up. For a more detailed discussion as to how physics rules out everything BUT a controlled demolition as the cause, see:
http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm
...And for more from an engineering point of view, see:
http://www.prisonplanet....21104easilywithstood.htm
http://members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/soldier5.htm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite.htm
http://www.physics911.net/thermite.htm
...But really, all someone has to do to see that they were controlled demolitions is to watch the video footage of the "collapses" and see for yourself:
http://www.plaguepuppy.n...ollapse%20update/#videos
http://www.globalresearc....net/viewtopic.php?t=523
http://www.reopen911.org...s_and_videos.htm#Painful
http://wtc.macroshaft.org/mov/
http://www.wtc7.net/
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/Sept11Videos.shtml

On a similar note, I've noticed a couple of blogs that pretend to be liberal but are apparantly operated by right-wingers for the purpose of managing liberal discourse and keeping it within acceptable [to them] parameters. They will not tolerate open discussion on certain matters, for instance the truth about 9/11. Oh, they will of course have a thread or two relating to 9/11 but nothing that strays outside of the "official" story is tolerated, being immediately deleted. The worst I've found so far is the piece of shit fake blog called "BuzzMachine". If you don't believe me, try posting anything on it that contradicts the "nineteen hijackers with plastic knives that magically shut down the Air Force" official myth of 9/11 and see how quickly it is deleted. They won't try to debate me on it and instead just remove it altogether. I've since posted making fun of them for being tools of the right-wing establishment and sure enough, those posts get rapidly deleted as well. Another one that's pretty bad is "Brad DeLong's Semi-Daily Journal" blog. If that one isn't a right-wing fake "liberal" blog then it sure acts like one. I'm certain there must be more fake Rovian creations designed to distract and spread disinfo and neuter discourse, so keep a careful eye out. Hey, here's an idea, what about having a separate section on this blog where we can write in and give the names of any pseudo-liberal fake blogs to expose them for what they are?

Saventster, Jaime and anyone else that thinks there is no difference between building a city below sea level and building one in Kansas. How can you believe that there is an equal amount of potential danger across our land with respect to natural disasters? Tornados, earthquakes, floods, fires they all happen and when they do people die. They don't all have the same frequency across the globe, some things happen more often in certain areas. The point is that we don't have to build in places that are obviously prone to repeating devestation. It would be a very stubborn, short-sighted goal to rebuild without considering the reasons for the disaster. Dry land below sea level on the coast is an unnatuaral state. It will flood again, why set ourselves up for the next time. I don't have a plan for the poor victims of this tragedy but I do have a plan to prevent it from happening again.

It would be a great error of our generation to believe that we can keep the oceans out of our coastal regions. Global warming is rasing ocean levels, increasing hurricane intensity and frequency. Why? Why believe that we can happily reside in a city in this region. What happens the next time the Mississippi floods and the city is flooded from the other direction? Come on people we should focus on a sustainable future not some piece of land that has been sinking for the past two hundred years at a time when the ocean it is sinking below is on the rise.

Savantster you may think I'm a shithead but you should pull your head out of your ass and think about what you are sentencing the next generation of NO inhabitants to, a life fighting against the relentless push of the ocean.