‘A Terrible Idea’: The Full Failure of E-Voting, E-Counting, ‘Open Source’ and Internet Voting [VIDEO]

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This guy, Tom Scott of Computerphile, is right on the money in every respect, when it comes to electronic voting — be it via touch-screen computers, paper ballot optical-scan systems or, God forbid, Internet Voting. If I was British, and younger, and better looking, and smarter, this would be me…

After almost 11 years at this, it’s great to see that at least a few folks are finally getting it. While many understand some of the problems of e-voting, too many still think those probs can be solved with “paper trails” or “open source systems” or Vote-by-Mail or, somehow, even Internet Voting (via phone, tablet or elsewhere). Scott clearly understands, and smartly explains in the short video above, why the problems of electronic voting and tabulating cannot be solved by any of those methods, no matter how much many otherwise well-intentioned folks may wish they could be.

Scott starts off by citing the extraordinary failure of Gov. Chris Christie’s emergency Internet Voting scheme, hurriedly (and disastrously) implemented in 2012 in the wake of Hurricane Sandy.

Beyond that, he goes on to make a number of spot-on points, though all of them are predicated on one key notion that, while it may still be true in Great Britain, is becoming more and more of a distant memory in the U.S. every day: An election where everyone in the public is allowed to observe the removal of hand-marked paper ballots from the ballot box, and watch them being counted right then and there, is the most secure and “trustworthy” election possible — at least based on hundreds of years of vote counting in democracies…

As mentioned, that point is becoming a distant memory in the U.S. For evidence, see the recent “recount” of the last U.S. House race to be called from the November 4th election, between Martha McSally (R) and the incumbent Rep. Ron Barber (D) in Arizona’s 2nd Congressional District. Aside from the electronic vote-counting irregularities in the race, the contest, which originally ended with a margin of less than one-tenth of one percent, was recently “recounted” by the same computer optical-scan systems that tallied the hand-marked paper ballots in the first place (either correctly or incorrectly — nobody can know for certain without an actual public hand-count of those ballots). In addition to using the same computer systems to tally the ballots again in the “recount”, the process itself was also done largely in secret. (The final results were revealed by a state judge last week, with the Republican who was said to have won the initial tally by 161 votes declared as the winner of the “recount” by 167 votes out of some 220,000 cast. Sadly, there is little reason for voters to have confidence that those final results reflect the actual will of voters in AZ-2, since the hand-marked paper ballots cast in the district were never tallied, publicly or otherwise, by actual human beings.)

With the hard fact about the necessity of public counting in mind — what we describe as “Democracy’s Gold Standard” around here — Computerphile’s Scott goes on to note these other very important points (among others):

• There is no reason to simply “trust” anybody or anything when it comes to elections. “Trust” has no place in democracy or vote counting.

• “OPEN SOURCE” USED WITH ELECTRONIC VOTING AND TALLYING SYSTEMS IS NOT A SOLUTION!

• When it comes to the madness of Internet Voting, as Scott explains: “It is a terrible idea, and if a government ever promises to use it, hope they don’t manage to use it before you get a chance to vote them out.”

If I could hire this guy to take over The BRAD BLOG, I would. He’s 100% on the money on these points and, because he’s British, he sounds way smarter than I do when he shouts about them.

[Hat-tip @PsychoticusRexx on the Twitters…]

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‘A Terrible Idea’: The Full Failure of E-Voting, E-Counting, ‘Open Source’ and Internet Voting [VIDEO]

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  1. 1)
    nemo said on 12/22/2014 @ 6:56pm PT: [Permalink]

    If I was British, and younger, and better looking, and smarter, this would be me…

    Off topic, but that’s how I felt about Russell Brand. I read what he wrote about Robin Williams this year

    http://www.theguardian.com/comm...s-broken-world

    and, having never heard of him before, I figured Russell Brand is obviously, like, a sixty-year-old professor of English literature. But no

    https://www.google.com/search?t...=russell+brand

  2. 2)
    Hoosey Whatsis said on 12/22/2014 @ 7:42pm PT: [Permalink]

    O/T but related — it seems “e-policing” may be as unreliable as e-voting.

    “Mayoral Challengers Blast Red-Light Camera Program”

    “Data posted to the city’s (Chicago) website indicate that crashes at red-light camera intersections decreased 33 percent between 2005 and 2012, with a 22 percent drop in crashes that resulted in serious injury. The city’s data also indicate rear-end crashes decreased 7 percent at those intersections during that period.

    “But the Tribune found those claims were grossly exaggerated. In some cases, the newspaper found the number of crashes increased at certain intersections with the cameras.”

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/chi...all-moratorium

    Note: it IS being raised as a campaign issue by two of Rahm Emanuel’s challengers and the supporting evidence in the article ain’t anything like what you find at Bradblog, but still …

  3. 3)
    Adam said on 12/23/2014 @ 12:06pm PT: [Permalink]

    He gives a very easy-to-follow presentation and explanation. It’s so clear that maybe Bloomberg Editors and even Dailykos might understand it.

  4. 4)
    john said on 12/23/2014 @ 12:49pm PT: [Permalink]

    Daily Kos understand? You must be joking — that circle jerk will never get it (or anything else) other than mindlessly promoting democrats and then self-flagellating when the elections are stolen.

  5. 6)
    David Jefferson said on 12/24/2014 @ 4:03pm PT: [Permalink]

    Brad, do you have an email address for Tom Scott? If so, send it to me privately. I’d like to contact him. Thanks.

  6. 7)
    Adam said on 12/26/2014 @ 3:00am PT: [Permalink]

    John #4, yes I was kidding. I don’t know for sure, but I think Markos Moulitsas has long understood that but is deliberately putting a news/comment blackout on it.

    Why? Perhaps he is a CIA plant, I don’t know. He actually admitted to training with the CIA. Maybe “gatekeepers” for real and not just paranoid fantasy? He could be genuinely bona fide stupid about it, but I believe, more likely, he is just playing dumb.

    I believe the same about the US news media in general. How else would one explain why the news media edits raw exit-poll results to accord with election results? Either they’re in on it or were also conned by one of the most massive feats of fraud in US history — an emperor has no clothes situation, some kind of mass hypnosis. Meanwhile as the United States self-destructs to its self-inflicted War on Democracy.

    China — now overtaking the US as the #1 biggest economy in the world — is quickly dumping its US dollar reservess and replacing it with assets — eg mineral mines, gas — all over the world. The United States of America is brutally beating itself up, destroying its democracy and, in turn, its own economy.

    How can anyone take the United States comments about democracy and more seriously than Bill Cosby’s comments about personal responsibility? US moral authority is defunct.

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