Are the tides beginning to change, finally?

Rep Jones said: ""When I voted two years ago to submit the troops, I was making my decisions on facts."

The Downing Street Memo is the evidence that was needed to legitimize everyone's overwhelming suspicions and it allows them to start rethinking and questioning ALL the intelligence they were given OUT IN THE OPEN. Finally.

Eventually, Rep Jones may realize that When he voted two years ago to submit the troops, he was making his decisions on lies, not facts. And then perhaps an even more meaningful debate can begin.

Ironic that a Democrat would demand an exit strategy to a war. Kennedy / Johnson .

OT maybe --- kind of --- but those who get CBC television might want to know that they're repeating an episode of "The Fifth Estate" this weekend called "The Unauthorized Biography of Dick Cheney".

This from the page referenced above:

American Vice-President Dick Cheney has walked the corridors of world power for three decades.

Cheney's remarkable life story involves the relentless accumulation of power in every form.
Elected for a second term, he continues to be one of the most powerful and well-connected men in the world.
The fifth estate will show how he accomplished this, what it involved in terms of costs for others and what history's judgement could be.

and you can watch it

Friday May 27 at 1am & 4am ET
Saturday May 28 at 11pm ET
Sunday May 29 at 3am & 4pm ET

you can also watch it online ... or read about it online ... starting here.

It doesn't go as far as I would, but it explains certain things that all Americans should understand. Like:

Intelligence specialist Greg Thielman says his State Department Office was receiving information that was different from what the White House was saying.

"Their starting point was not 'let's try to figure out what is going on' but 'let's see what kind of information we can come up with to justify the policy line we want to pursue'.

Cheney was the driving force behind an orchestrated presentation to the American public of a different version of reality than the reality we saw."

Thanks to our friends to the north. Brrrrrr. Maybe someday we will be able to see things like this on American network television.

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#5: Why is it that you and your ilk despise the UN, except when you want to use Saddam's xx amount of UN resolutions violations to justify a quagmire of a war that resulted in 1. tens of thousands of deaths with no end in sight 2. the breeding of terrorists where there weren't before 3. the weakening and dismantling of our military and disregard for our troops' needs 4. the use of our invasion and occuption as a recruiting video for Al-Qaeda, resulting in the growing danger of terrorism 5. taking our 'eye off the ball' of Iran, Syria, and North Korea.

Can you answer me that?

Who was Saddam an imminent threat to? Iran, with an army that would topple the unloyal army of the old Hussein regime? Or was it Israel, with it's mere second most advanced army in the world?

If we wanted to take Saddam out before he became a threat, why didn't we do so in the 1980's instead of arming him?

Do you have the ability to look beyond your allegiances and realize that this conflict is a bipartisan one that won't end until good people from across the spectrum unite and take our country - and foreign policy - back?

Re: PRAeTorian/giggler (66.177.196.246) whoever?
Have you seen this guy's resume?

"Being an American military officer who aided commanders both in the field and the Pentagon for the last four years,"

Yes we're witnessing the "bloody" fruits of his expertise in Iraq on a daily basis!

Some free advice for PRAeTorian, hang on tight to that Pizza delivery-boy job of yours!

Re: #34 Nah! This is Condoleezza Rice's Bio pic from her website.

I have a better question, bvac... Why didn't Clinton take out Hussein AND bin Laden instead of arming China and North Korea?

Nice one, WillyWacker, did you get that one from within a Cracker Jack box? Thanks for the advice (you priced it right), but even if I were a pizza delivery boy, I'd be contributing more to society's future than you or this joke of a blog.

#1 If Hussein had no WMDs, then why did he promise to disclose them?

#2 Given that it takes at least a year for a recession to form, then why do you blame Bush for starting it in March of 2001?

Can someone please give me a link where it's explained how to format the text in this type of posting, like how to do bold, italics, etc. It seems the rules are different from place to place.

#8: Actually, that's not really a better question; since the administrations of Reagan and Bush came first, why didn't THEY take out Saddam instead of arming him, and take out Bin Laden instead of training him? In any case, as misleading as your question is, you're not going to catch my defending Clinton any time soon. Like I said, this is a bipartisan quagmire that we're in.

Why don't you stop with the distraction tactics and actually deal with whats on the table?

Hey everyone,

Check out this VIDEO of BOLTON having a meltdown over the topic of the UN.

It's MUST SEE video courtesy of Crooks & Liars!

Looks like the Johny Gosch case just won't go away.

There are now CIA links to it according to the latest story.

Benjamin, I doubt any of these numbskulls know and I seriously doubt that even Brad understands how bad this site sucks, but to answer your question...

If you want bold, put <strong> before and </strong> after the text.

If you want italics, put <em> before and </em> after the text.

If you want to link, put <a href="" title="" rel=""> before and </a> after the text (replacing the respective #s).

For more information, check out How to Write Markup. ::hint to Brad::

Fred, I'm not sure how deep you wanna dig into the child kidnapping conspiracy, but be forewarned that in his testimony before Judge Urbom, Bonacci specifically named Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA) as having participated in the parties--also telling the judge he had "relationships with him" in Washington, DC and was flown to Massachusetts for sex in the basement of Frank's Boston home.

Bejammin075 #11 -

Italics are [i]text[/i]. bolds are [b]text[/b], and underlines are [u]text[/u]. Substitute for [] and you're all set!

Praetorian; what you fail to realize is that this is not a partisan site. People are not here to defend democrats. In fact, I think you will find most people on this site find most democrats not much less distasteful than republicans. So yes Barney Frank may be involved in pedophelia rings, but this doesn't change the facts that elections are being rigged and innocent people are dying and it's all in the name of greed, for both money and power, and your weak attempts to distract and disparage will not discourage the curious from continuing to ask the questions you're trying to make sure don't get answered.

Newjesustimes -

What you said!!!

PRAETORIAN #8:

I can address the second part of your question concerning Clinton not "taking out" Bin Laden.

Before I begin, let me just tell you that I know you have no idea what you are talking about simply because you sputtered out this question. It clearly reveals your complete lack of awareness about the events during the time they occured AND/OR your lack of ability to do the research on the well documented matter.

So, where were we.... Clinton and Bin Laden.....Oh yes.

In June 1998, the CIA, lead by George Tenet, reviewed a CIA proposed raid on a place called Tarnak Farm, a Bin Laden compound consisting of over 80 buildings several miles south of Kandahar, Afghanistan. The plan would utilize a covert CIA asset team comprised of an Afghani clan of mercenaries codenamed TRODPINT which would infiltrate the encampment and grab the package (Bin Laden). After careful tactical and political consideration, Tenet never formally presented the Tarnak Farm raid plan for President Clinton's approval.

Long story short (you can research more if you like), the Taliban were getting a lot of pressure from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to turn Bin Laden over to the U.S.. Bin Laden must of felt the pressure, because on August 7, 1998, two of his teams of suicide bombers blew up two separate American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. There was no warning. Bin Laden at that point, was a small time hero.

Once Clinton had the "attribution" question answered as Bin Laden, he knew he must react hard. But there was one little problem. Actually it became a HUGE problem, thanks to Ken Starr: Monica Lewinsky.

Clinton was becoming only the second president in American history to face impeachment charges. He had neither the credibility nor the political strength required to lead the United States into a sustained military conflict even if it was an unconventional or low-grade war fought by Special Forces. His realistic options were severly limited.

Cruise missle strikes were the reaction of choice. There was intel about a large meeting scheduled with many senior leaders of Islamist militants and terrorist groups linked to Bin Laden. Bin Laden was going to attend. Clinton gave the order to launch 75 tomahawk cruise missles into the Zawhar Kili camp complex. Needless to say a lot of people died. Additionally, a factory in Sudan that CIA intel reported to be a suspected chemical weapons plant that Bin Laden was known to have financial ties to, was also attacked with 13 tomahawk missles. A lot of innocent people died in that one. The Gov't of Sudan was pissed.

Bin Laden, as it turned out, had left the Afghanistan meeting 2 hours before the strike commenced. He got away. The factory in Sudan turned out to be an aspirin factory. After the Gov't of Sudan made the aspirin factory case, Clinton suffered from severe domestic political opposition attacks. This was accentuated by the close associations current events had had to a recently released movie titled "Wag the Dog." Clinton was ferociously accused by Republican opposition of launching the missle attack on the aspirin farm (nevermind the terrorist leader meeting) as an attempt to take away the focus on the Lewinsky scandal. Coincedently, the "Starr Report" was released including graphic descriptions of his sexual relations with Lewinsky, further damaging Clintons political capital.

Based on that, Clinton could no longer afford to "miscalculate" another attack based on the CIA's as of late, faulty "intelligence". Bin Laden had evaded the Mighty Superpower's most high-tech weapons, and became an Islamic Super Hero. The rest, as they say, is history.

Are you anti-Clinton people glad now that you caught him getting blow jobs? Hope you thought it was worth it. I, sure as shit, do not.

You draw your own conclusions.

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Always remember, friends...the more we hear from trolls, the more effective we've become. If this blog really "sucked," they'd pay no attention to it.

When they start talking about what Barney Frank does in his spare time, when they distort Clinton's record, that proves we've got the facts on our side about the Bush administration. The closer we get to exposing election fraud, the more the public learns about the British memo, the louder we can expect them to get. And the more frantic. We're winning now, and they're scared. Rove is too, I suspect.

RLM #30
Right. Every time things are going our way, and the truth is getting uncovered and told, we get these trolls. It's a sign of progress.

I'm certain that the WH is having a very tough time right now, and we are getting to them from so many angles. It is going to be one bad summer for Bush

Peg, the method you offered to Benjamin doesn't work in all browsers. I already showed him how to do it, and then you come in with an outdated method. How typical of a Liberal.

Fred, you obviously have no idea what you're talking nor any idea who you're talking to.

Benjamin, trolls are not a sign that you've come upon some truth. It's only a sign that people find this site to be a waste.

Just like to point out about a BBC documentary which I have mentioned before on this site called “THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES” apparently no US network would show it as it was considered to hot to handle although now its gone on show at Cannes and may be released as a film version across the US.

In is in this document I realised how much the NEO CONS hate the American left, it has an interview with an ex Neo Con who has now turned his back and who confesses to blatantly trying to pin the murder of some guy on the Clintons and many other crazy things like which he now confesses to being wrong.

The documentary is basically about two groups of people the NEO CONS and the ETREME ISLAMISTS and has full history of the rise of the two groups and basically it shows how similar both Groups are to each other in their tactics, also highlighting how the NEO CONS don’t regard the ISLAMISTS as their biggest enemies but the American Left.

Republican congressman Jones who is participating in the debate in congress says he was lied to about the reasons for the Iraq war.

That means he is saying all of congress was lied to.

The fact that congress will even talk about this subject, together with the low popularity polls of the president, shows there is a growing consensus and the days of the neocon empire are numbered.

A point I would like to add about the Iraq war, look at what’s happened today in Islamabad a suicide bomber blowing himself up at a Shia mosque, very few people are aware but in Pakistan a proxy war between the Iranian backed Shias and Saudi backed Waabee Sunnis has been taking place in that country since the eighties, and that is exactly what is going to happen in Iraq but probably a million times bigger, the seeds of hatred are being sewn between the two sects and with Iran on one side and Saudi Arabia on the other we can be sure that it is conflict that may well last for decades, way after the Americans have withdrawn. Exactly most people were predicting but the Bush administration refused to listen.

Praetorian #32, not all browsers support the tags you posted. You continue to out yourself as a clueless moron.

Praetorian -why don't you write something about what really sucks..that inpenetratable area between your ears. The people here know what's going on and some here enjoy your remarks. That's right some of us like the Bushit dribble of a finger pointing dumbshit. There is no justification for the majority of decisions the ROBOTS in Congress make except for allegiance to the Bushit Administration Empire. So why don't you fckoff. (bloggers pardon my FRENCH)

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Once they start talking in congress it's just a matter of time before it blossoms into something wonderful, the Truth will out.

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Praetorian #33,

You said: "Fred, you obviously have no idea what you're talking nor any idea who you're talking to."

LOL, nice english, dipshit. Why don't you enlighten us Praetorian, LOL.

That phrase, "...don't know who you're talking to..." is usually reserved for people of importance or expert recognition. Before you can say that, there needs to be some sort of expectation or possibility that I could or should know you.

But since you are obviously a loser troll with nothing even remotely resembling fame, expertise, or high status, that expecation is non-existent.

Ironically, yes, I do know who I'm talking to: a know-nothing, nobody, flame baiting troll.

biblebeltboy #39 Thanks for the background on Jones.

I am reluctant to conclude, however, that his past is relevant to his current thinking about being lied to.

He took an ultra-conservative position at the beginning of the Iraq war. One would have thought he was a neocon. He says that position was taken because of statements the president made.

Now, after looking at the underlying factual scenario, in his analysis he sees that the war was planned at least a year prior to the invasion.

Since this flies in the face of the public statements made by the president, he has a valid right - in his mind - to change his position.

His position, then - to him - is based on facts rather than on party affiliation.

Prae--n # 33

--Fred, you obviously have no idea what you're talking nor any idea who you're talking to.---

Sound like you are itching to 'come out' ? OK, who are you?

Will somebody please tell me what the Democratic party and the Republican party have to do with Iraq? For God's sake...you people are nuts!

People are dying by the hour over there, with no end in sight. The invasion was predicated on lies and bogus intelligence, and it was botched besides. And we're sitting here debating the partisan background of people? Who gives a rat's ass about whether Mr. Jones' father was a Democrat or not, or what kind of Democrat he was? What we're talking about here is death and destruction! Can't you narrow-minded oafs understand that?

I'll confess to being an atheist, a Communist, and an anarchist if it will stop the killing. Is that enough silly labels for you?

RLM # 44 I actually think some of the neocon reactionary base is emotion that has decayed into paranoia.

Notice a prime example in DeLay's reaction to being mentioned in a popular TV series:

According to a transcript exerpt supplied B&C by DeLay's office, the show's finale features a white supremacist who kills a judge's family, and the killing of an appellate judge. As the detectives hunt for the judge killer, one says: "Maybe we should put out an APB for somebody in a Tom DeLay T-shirt." (link here).

It is a common practice with this show but DeLay is apparently the only one to do a drive-by letter shooting in reaction to having his name mentioned in the TV drama.

Comment #44: Anarchy in the USA!!!

Thanks Fred.

I know Clinton's not lily-white, but he was slowly assassinated by the Republicans. I'd go back to the Clinton years in a split-second (sans the hate rhetoric of the reptilians.) We had 8 good years under Clinton.

Aack --- I left out an important word or 2 --- "he was slowly assassinated by the LIES of neoCON swine."

Fred (#20):

It seems rather curious to me that when the neo con Repugs get caught at their crimes... they instantly point to the Dems and say... "They're doing it too!!!"

OHHHHHH... that makes these crimes OK then

Tell these trolls that yes the Dems do it too... but no... it doesn't make it OK. We need a fundamental change here.

Praetorian is a lying piece of shit, enough said. That link he provided on how to 'write a mark up' is proof enough. Click it only if you want to jump through hoops.

He's using the same FOX "news" tactics that Limbaugh, O'reilly, and Hannity use. Make loose connections to criticize the other side's credibility when you can't win the debate on the subject being discussed.

The guy's not a factual debater, he's a fucking nagging wife.

Don't worry your pretty little self Praetorian. Brad should be home for dinner pretty soon. Just make sure the food's on the table when he gets there.

Bible Belt Totin' Boy from Alabama #39

What you "said" (whether you realize it or not) in your post (referencing Dredd's #35) is this: Because Jones has recognized the LIES he can't possibly be a REAL Republican.

I tend to agree with that.

Those people in Congress who voted against the amendment are pure and absolute fools. Can we find out who voted which way?

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Praetorian:

"In common language, the phrase "praetorian guards" designates an exclusive group attached to powerful people, such as Adolf Hitler's SS troops."

Praetorian, you wish. Loser.

Peggy,

Good question about the vote. I'd like to know, too.
I want to finish this version of Vietnam so we can move on to the new Disco. I swear to god, history is repeating itself.

Horkus, the W3C is not a difficult site to navigate - if you have a brain.

VeryWorried, you're right, it only works in MODERN BROWSERS that CORRECTLY interpret CORRECTLY written markup. Explain why you don't get it and why this site doesn't use it. LOL

Some wanker above refers to this as "a joke of a blog", yet he clearly spends as much time on here as anyone else.

If that doesn't make it clear to you that this blog has seriously caught the attention of this
posturing nincompoop (who spends all of his time playing verbal dodge-ball with the truth), then you're as dim-witted as he is.

Better to focus attention on those with the depth of character and common sense to absorb the
criminal nature of this administration's crimes againt its own people, as well as others.

America is still one of the greatest countries in the history of the planet (God knows there are many, many worse), but it's great in spite of people like
the pathetic "trolls" who choose to drop their waste here, not because of them.

Most what? Most full of shit? Not like MOST in Congress, John Conyers Jr doesn't appear to be backing or stockpiling the George W. Bushit commemorative 3 dollar bills. You can check his piggybank, however I think you'll find he ain't receiving any benifits or making any money from Bush or Cheney for speaking out against their actions. In the land of Enron and Halberton, you should go ahead and knock yourself out. Investigate the green trails of those speaking out against the BUSHIT ADMINISTRATION too. Do yourself a favor Holmes and consider trading up. Quality opinion over quantity.

Peggy #24, Fred #26

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 220 (Lynn Woolsey's withdrawal from Iraq ammendment)

Hey Bob, as a Liberal, you should refrain from any mention of God as it violates all of our civil rights to have your religious beliefs shoved in our faces. BAHAHAHA

H R 1815 RECORDED VOTE 25-May-2005 7:52 PM

AUTHOR(S): Woolsey of California Amendment
QUESTION: On Agreeing to the Amendment

Republican 5 Ayes, 221 Noes, 4 Abstentions
Democrat 122 Ayes, 79 Noes, 1 Abstention
Independent 1 Aye, 0 Noes, 0 Abstentions

TOTALS 128 Ayes, 300 Noes, 5 Abstentions

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This is the ratio one could expect on an impeachment effort in the current climate.

Who said Bob's a Liberal?

Hey Fred, learn to quote people you idiot. Someone else said that.

Thanks for posting that, Dredd. Now we can finally put the Iraq issue to rest - since it should now be painfully obvious that 1) Republicans support the war on terrorism and 2) Republicans are the majority party because Americans voted for them. Ergo, a majority of Americans support the war on terrorism.

re #58 they're really getting good value for their five bucks tonight, aren't they?

#33 praetorian:

"Fred, you obviously have no idea what you're talking nor any idea who you're talking to"

#35 Fred:

Praetorian #33,

You said: "Fred, you obviously have no idea what you're talking nor any idea who you're talking to."

#58 praetorian:

Hey Fred, learn to quote people you idiot. Someone else said that.

You've never seen such a bald-faced lie in all your life ... oh well maybe you have ...

The praetorian troll couldn't keep its story straight if it tried. It just continues to spew its hate of the American people for all to see.

Peg #62, here's a tip to have even more fun with images. Add a quip that pops up when people mouse over the image. Use the "alt" parameter of the "img" tag like this:

<img src="http://url" alt="your quip here">

VeryWorried - the alt parameter doesn't work for me. Any suggestions?

#59

While I agree that "a majority of Americans support the war on terrorism", I do not agree that such a war is now being fought in Iraq.

The Iraq war has increased the terror threat exponentially and has bolstered terrorist organizations more than any other single event in recent history.

If the bu$hit regime was fighting the war on terrorism the ranks of the terrorists would be going down significantly instead of increasing significantly.

Therefore the bu$hit regime is a greater help to terrorism than the terrorist recruiters have ever been on their own.

The bu$hit regime is incompetent at fighting the war on terrorism and the war on Iraq and thus the growing unpopularity of the bu$hit regime.

Hahahaha! What a surprise when I scrolled down the page, Peg C!!!

You always find unique smilies! Thanks.

Kira, what browser and version are you using?

I am using Internet Explorer v6 and "sad" pops up over your emoticon.

It is part of the HTML 4 spec and probably has been for a couple of HTML specs.

I'm sure many of you read tbrnews.org. Today's news states Bush wants to put our soldiers in minivans to help bail out GM. Maybe that and many other "things" are the straw. The site also states the military, cia, banking and business are pissed. I've wondered how he could treat everybody so poorly and get by with it.

Hey VeryWorried, I'm currently using the latest free Firefox (v 1.0.4) and I also have Internet Explorer v6.

As a test, I just opened this blog in IE v6 and still don't see any words over my sad emoticon.

Interesting. Any other ideas? (Everything's gotten outta control.)

Another Peak Oil
story.

Hey WinterIdiot, check out post #35, that's the one Fred misquoted, you moron. Now you're much an idiot as Fred was when he did it. Poor dumb Liberals.

For those of you still discombobulated by the markup issue, your confusion comes from thinking that HTML codes will always work here. This site isn't written in HTML, it's written (poorly) in XHTML 1.0 Transitional. Get a clue.

in comment #71 the thoroughly discredited troll praetorian wrote:

"check out post #35, that's the one Fred misquoted"

but Fred's only post on this thread after #35 is #41 --- which doesn't even mention #35, let alone misquoting it. Therefore Fred could not possibly have misquoted #35 and comment #71 is a bald-faced lie, as was praetorian's earlier comment #58, as noted here

For his newest lie, he earned $1. The four spurious insults: "WinterIdiot", "you moron", "Now you're much [sic] an idiot as Fred", and "Poor dumb Liberals" were each worth $1 as well, for a grand total of $5.

What a life! What a sad way to make a living!

The clueless praetorian troll continues to spew lies and disinformation. The markup is working as designed. Why does the neanderthal praetorian troll hate Americans so much?

Kira, perhaps you misunderstand my description? The "alt" text only pops up when your mouse cursor comes to rest over the image, much like the "tool tips" on many toolbar items.

WP, nice of you to try to clue in the vacuous praetorian troll, unfortunatelly it is beyond help. The poor thing.

You're right, it was #25.

VeryStupid, ont the contrary, this web alone contains 1710 markup errors. Like I said, get a clue.

{I've made the URL into a link although one would think an html expert would have had no trouble doing it himself }

Dredd #66- That was very well said!! It is just common sense! This issue just infuriates me!! Of Course people are going to get angry and upset when it's YOUR country being bombed and obliterated!! 100,000 + of your fellow citizens killed, your country's oil stolen by the occupiers and killers, WOULDN"T YOU be PISSED OFF?? ( I am asking the ones that beat the war drums on this one, praetorian??) What has become of the idea of "putting myself in their shoes??) Or "walking a mile in another man's shoes? The laughable assertion that they "Hate Americans for their freedoms"!! OH PLEASE!! Can't people think a bit, like maybe "GEE, Sweden, Switzerland, Canada, Australia etc. are free countries and no one's wanting to attack them for their "freedoms"!! Have people forgotten that VIOLENCE just BEGETS VIOLENCE, and to quote the group "Peter, Paul and Mary" "When will it ever end"?? Maybe if some Americans read a little more, they might have a better insight into why America is not so "well liked" in the world, to put it delicately. BUSHIT really is the ULTIMATE RECRUITMENT "TOOL"!!!!!!!!!!

Sheesh! #76/#77; Not just a moron, but adept at it.

Ann, the discredited praetorian troll has a mindless history of moronic ineptitude. It disparages Brad for typos while it continues to make its own.

It tries to misdirect people with its tangential posts, but continues to fail miserably.

Its hatred of Americans and the American way of life is so blatant it simply has to broadcast it far and wide. It is a reminder that there are people out there who thrive on death and destruction. Very sad indeed.

Nice attempt at misdirection, VeryStupid. I don't hate the American way of life, I simply hate the way of life you want it to become. Can't you all see that Liberalism is dead? Americans don't want it, and wow, even the French will be voting in a more conservative majority very soon. The celebration you thought you were going to have simply wasn't meant to be - and I thank God for it.

This site isn't HTML (as I've already made clear), it's XHTML. Blogging packages that are properly setup (unlike this one) will automatically produce a hyperlink simply from a URL being posted. Obviously, this website is neither setup properly nor maintained properly. Nice try.

The height of misdirection is referring to the concerns addressed in this blog as conservative/liberal issues. They are neither.

The country is steadily being over-run by Corporate America, in its politics, in its media, and even in its voting system.

This is the rise of fascism, and benefits neither conservative nor liberal, but those with vast amounts of financial power.

The pea-brained praetorian troll makes my point self evident. It hates the American way of life so much that it supports megalomaniac, sociopaths like dumbya who are destroying the once great nation called the USA.