Absolutely priceless picture - wonder if it was taken before or after McClelland slapped him around for making him look like a freakin' idiot in front of the WH press corps and the country for two consecutive days and counting.

for an extended treatment: http://www.hairytruth.blogspot.com

So I know why I shouldnt vote for Reps next election. Why should I vote for Dems? So I can be pissed everyday and complain?

No thanks.

Welcome back Brad! Honestly - there's so much to keep up with here with all the information-stuffed thread from the Blogathon live-blogging and now with your new articles. Thank you so much!

I'm doing so much reading and studying I'm not having much time to comment, but that's ok. (It's probably not much loss!)

What a grand event - the Blogathon. Steve et al did so much unbelievable work and it turned into a really professional production. Wow! I stand in awe of all you!

Medium left --- ??? What are you saying about voting for Dems? Nobody here has suggested you should. Maybe you need to read through the threads again.

Welcome back Brad!

And Medium Left--as for who anyone votes for--well, first we need to make sure that we *can* vote (as opposed to using one of those machines that can be hacked in one minute). And we need to reform our election system so we have the candidates we really want instead of the ones that party bosses and corporate donors foist on us.

And Brad will help everyone know More About Everything so we'll be better informed on all counts, and more able to participate in shaping our communities and our government.

Medium Left - You should vote for whoever the hell you want to. If you can (see Catherine's statement above).

As to why you "shouldnt vote for Reps next election" that's up to you. If you're in favor of bigger government, the largest deficits in the history of mankind, unaccountable public officials, the detioration of civil and human rights, have little respect for the U.S. Constituion, don't care about National Security and the safety of Americans, and enjoy corruption the likes of which America has never seen, you should definitely vote Republican!

Go get 'em!

Welcome back, Brad--hopefully reinvigorated and ready to kick ass and take names.

I am REALLY hoping that this Rove thing signals a quantum shift in meida treatment of Bush & co.

A whole new round of letters to newspaper editors demanding they print the truth about Election '04 is a good place to start, guys.

Last night I discovered someone has taken down quite a few of my BUSH CHEATED '04 stickers around Los Angeles all in one fell swoop.

F you, crackers. I'm slapping up TWICE as many this week.

Bring it!!!!!!!

Medium Left - Voting Dem doesn't automagically make you pissed everyday & wanting to complain. But being pissed everyday & wanting to complain has lead a lot of us to vote Dem.

Personally, my reason for voting Dem is because Dems are the only people who stand a chance against this current administration. My reasons for wanting to vote for people who stand a chance against this administration are all that Brad listed above. For me, it has nothing to do with party affiliation. It has everything to do with what I, personally, believe is right, or atleast better for this country --- so long as it doesn't interfere with constitutional principles or our civil liberties.

No political party is perfect. I remember hearing Nader advocates here in Madison saying "there's no such thing as the lesser of 2 evils", and I've always disagreed. If 2 parties both give special favor to campaign contributors, but only one of the parties tries to subvert the constitution, I'd say that there is definately a lesser of the 2 evils. And now that Nader's campaign coordinator has pleaded guilty to election fraud, I doubt I'll be hearing this argument much more.

Regardless, it's your choice. Make up your own mind. Don't allow yourself to be brainwashed by anybody and don't buy into arguments that don't make sense. And if a factual answer to a legitimate question would help you to make up your mind, you should be pissed if that legitimate question goes unanswered or focus is drawn over to some other irrelevant thing.

To a sysadmin,

Icouldn't have said it better, you are right on in your assesment. I too would like to see more offered than Reps and Dems, but to fix things one must go with those who have the best chance of succeeding.

By the way, have a beer for me next time your at the Ratskeller (Probably blew the spelling). It was one of my favorite hang outs in the late 60's when I was in town from Stevn's Point. Kind of hard to stop in since I'm in Sacramento now.

Rove doing the"Froggy two-step"-Details? when, where and why????
Can't wait to hear from you
Peterpont

Welcome home, Brad!!!
That picture is priceless...IF ONLY!!

But Re #7, ummmmm...

"...Nader's campaign coordinator has pleaded guilty to election fraud..." ?

How did I miss that one?

Carl Rove in handcuffs!!!!!!!!!!!
Priceless! What do you guys do for an encore!?
Keep me informed on the latest on Bush Cheated '04. Again, too much funny business in Ohio!

OT:

During the course of the Blogathon, I was goaded by certain posters about my dereliction of duty at my OWN blog (slender as it is). Well, I've posted a respnse and a challenge. I'll do anything to stop this death-dive towards planetary destruction - even invite suggestions!

Re #7 & #10, yes, please say more. I never heard this about Nader's campaign.

re #7 & #10 & #13 ... here's a link

US News
2004 Nader campaign coordinator pleads guilty to election fraud
Tuesday, June 28, 2005

US News, VIRGINIA BEACH: The coordinator for Ralph Nader's 2004 presidential campaign in Virginia pleaded guilty Tuesday to election fraud.

James P. Polk, 47, will serve 30 days of home detention and was fined $2,500.

Polk was accused of illegally certifying petitions to get Nader, an independent candidate, on the ballot. He was indicted on 10 counts of election fraud in October, but prosecutors withdrew nine of those counts.

and you can find more from this Google search.

Great pic of Rove.

Check out These Political Comics:

Scott Mcclellan holds a Press Confrence.
And. Karl Rove Gets Busted. Along with a lot more.
http://www.thehollywoodl..._feature_links.htm"

Send them to all your Republican friends
Don't forget to check out the site
www.thehollywoodliberal.com
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Talk to you Later
H.L.

A nice fake but still a fake like the fake documents from CBS and this fake story.

Someone who can't distinguish a fake photo used for humorous effect from a criminal act committed by the person in the photo needs to have a quart of mature perspective injected directly into his bloodstream.

He also needs a sense of humor. Except that trolls only laugh when they're nervous.

Anyone who hasn't bothered to educate themselves about Rove's history of "dirty tricks" is too stupid to eat a pretzel and living in the fantasy world created by the cabal of neoCons which call themselves advisors to bu$h.

Find it a synopsis (along with links) here: Double Whammy

Ron Suskind's watershed piece in the New York Times Magazine, "Without A Doubt", introduced us to "the reality-based community" this way:

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality --- judiciously, as you will --- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

There will always be a group of people who will not ever research beyond their own tiny world of perception. A couple of them have commented on this thread. It's beyond sad, but that is reality.

Check out http://politicsnj.com/njcrjuly2005.htm.

The head of the NJ College Republicans is up his own rear end. This guy seems to me to be of real presidential timber. He has no ethics, lies for a living, will not apologize for wrongs he has blatantly committed and is in desperate need of a dictionary.

Looks like this could be another nail in Rove's coffin

From 2003...

"The document establishes that Plame has worked undercover within the past five years. The time frame is one of the standards used in making determinations about whether a disclosure is a criminal violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act."

http://www.washingtonpos...003Oct3?language=printer

It's also interesting to take note of the urgency and importance shown by the administration at the time.

Coverup already starting?

Kira #18
Ron Suskind's piece was excellent. I think, however the last line was left unfinished, may I suggest that following:----" and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."---add: 'and prosecute us to the full extent for having done it.'

{Comment by cowardly Jimmo, posting under a different name, deleted for repeated, flagrant and extended inability to show common courtesy or follow the general rules of posting here.}

My money is on the Special Prosecutor indicting Joe Wilson.

Think about it. Do you REALLY think Bush would have allowed an investigation that pointed the finger at Rove? Of course not! That is LUDICROUS to think so!

Bush knew two years ago that this was the way to nail Joe Wilson. Wilson's haibit of telling untruths, his incessant bragging over his "trophy wife", and continued support of Democrats including Kerry have made him a primary target.

Seriously, LV odds are that Wilson lied to the Special Prosecutor from the gitgo and now they are just laying the case to put him away. Want to take my bet!

Photoshop of Rove was motivating as I write letters to my reps. If the SS weren't monitoring this site I would put up a photoshop of Bush-Cheney and the rest of their cabal in nooses on the whitehouse lawn.

That's the justice they deserve, what they and their sponsors end up with will definitely be much tamer, I am sure.

As for the evote fraud all of us need to unite in opposition to this totalitarianism.

howdy guys
new trolls i c
and dimble is his name
the 1000000 to 1 prez has lots of friends on the "internets" i c

...BREAKING....BREAKING....BREAKING....BREAKING....

Bush admin may be responsible for botching effort to thwart London bombing

London Bombers Tied to Al Qaeda Plot in Pakistan
Connection to Al Qaeda Plot in Pakistan

Officials tell ABC News the London bombers have been connected to an al Qaeda plot planned two years ago in the Pakistani city of Lahore.

The laptop computer of Naeem Noor Khan, a captured al Qaeda leader, contained plans for a coordinated series of attacks on the London subway system, as well as on financial buildings in both New York and Washington.

"There's absolutely no doubt he was part of an al Qaeda operation aimed at not only the United States but Great Britain," explained Alexis Debat, a former official in the French Defense Ministry who is now a senior terrorism consultant for ABC News.

At the time, authorities thought they had foiled the London subway plot by arresting more than a dozen young Britons of Pakistani descent last August in Luton, a city known for its ties to terrorism.

"For some time, the locus of terrorism in Britain has been around the Luton area and in some of the northern cities," said Michael Clark, professor of defense at King's College in London.

Security officials tell ABC News they have discovered links between the eldest of the London bombers, Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, and the original group in Luton. Officials also believe it was not a coincidence the subway bombers all met at the Luton train station last week.

"It is very likely this group was activated last year after the other group was arrested," Debat said.

One of Khan's friends informed the BBC today that Khan had undergone training for explosives at terror camps in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. This piece of information only strengthened the London-Pakistani connection.

see:
ABC News

America Blog

Daily Kos

This story is potentially explosive!!! The Brits won't let this one die and with the "born-again" American journalists....well, well, well....

RE: #26

You may see the original Democracy Now! story that was broadcast in 2004 HERE

Beware of the heroes whose past includes going AWOL and probable desertion then on a day he could be needed hides away in a school then runs off -away from harms way--to Omaha.

Beware of the heroes whose past includes going AWOL and probable desertion then on a day he could be needed hides away in a school then runs off -away from harms way--to Omaha.

Excellent little animation on the:

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Medium Left/Right or whoever you call yourself,

You should stay home and not vote, that's what you should do. If you contribute one vote to the wrong party, IE: republicans yet again, you will only be making everyone suffer even worse loss and decidedly graver consequences.

Then when you wake up to the fact that the democrats are the party of the people, you should vote for them so you can save things like the healthcare system from falling.

Good place to get educated, and stop taking soundbytes-

http://www.democrats.org

Doug E.

A --REALLY-- (!!) good question for Scotti:

The Administration now has a policy of not interupting ongoing investigations, right?

Did that policy change because the Administration interupted the ongoing investigation of the UN weapons inspectors, jumped to conclusions, and then started an unneccessary war? Is it true that if the Administration let the inspectors finish, we might be 1800 soldiers and 300 billion $$ richer?

According to Jeff Gannon, Rove likes handcuffs!

> Then when you wake up to the fact that the democrats are the party of the people

to further clarify the statement above, the word "people" means "left kook fringe."

re #35 It's nice to see Paul around again. He always cheers me up. Hasn't got enough brains or knowledge to debate with anyone so he resorts to calling names. Very clever, Paul. You totally rock!

Haha! (re: #35) Don't get us started on how Kooky the "right" fringe is!!! Kooks, Krooks, Krazies & full of Krapola --- and they've been pretty Kareless --- we're making a list.

Rush has been absolutely brilliant this week. Rove is not in any trouble. The girl in prison seems to be in trouble. "Judy in disguise, what you waiting for?"

The economy is good.

Tax cuts work.

I did some trickling down this past week in Wyoming, Colorado, and Utah.

Reaganomics works everytime!

The Left still has no ideas.