The punks at ACVR and their useful idiots in the Wingnut Blogosphere and lazy Corporate Media have waylaid us from our hopes of looking into the latest GOP Election Miracle in Ohio last night.
Billmon, however, seems to have gotten off to a fine start. We recommend his analysis, even while we wonder at the amazing coincidences of computers breaking down in the final moments of vote tallying, and then returning with just enough “fresh” votes to flip the numbers prior to the breakdown and resulting in the desired GOP outcome.
As we say, we know it’s merely a coincidence that this sort of thing happened again last night in Ohio almost exactly as it did last November. In Ohio. And we know that the resultant 2 to 4 percent margins of victory are coincidences as well. Coincidences that Democrats would be well advised to get used to as long as most of them are willing to do nothing about it.
Nonetheless, this might be a nice time to ask again: “Who is Clint Curtis?”
UPDATE: We’re reminded by the good Joe Cannon, in regard to the late-night Clermont County, OH tallies which — after a brief and unexplained “computer failure” — ended up flipping the final results to Schmidt at the last moment that Larisa Alexandrovna filed a related report last January on whistleblowers who claimed that stickers were placed illegally on ballots during the Ohio Presidential Recount in Clermont. Our own interview with two of those whistleblowers, Stephen Spraley and Eric Gifford, on The BRAD SHOW several weeks ago is available for via the the Archives in the 5/14/05 section, HOUR 2.
My God, this is ghastly. I spend twenty hours a day trying to get this true stuff out. I’m exhausted. Where do we go from here? These guys are getting ready to nuke US and then the Middle East. They’re insane.
Isn’t there anything we can do to stomp on the lies before the lies crush us?
I’m ready to stop Hackett from going to Iraq, this is goddamn sick. Hackett could get shot at or worse, what we need to do is REFORM Ohio now!!!!
The republicans are demanding it! Look at the outcry and disenfranchised voters, the newest stolen elections. ORGANIZE AND FIGHT!!!! GET DEAN AND OTHERS TO **MARCH** and maybe others can volunteer to go there and count the ballots!!!!
Stand up, WE WON’T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!! Say it like Howard Dean!
Doug E.
Why am I not surprised with this revelation? I made a couple of donations to Hackett’s campaign all the while reminding myself that this race was in "OHIO", the most corrupt state in the U.S, and the chances were great that there would be vote tampering. This must STOP. We will never get our candidates elected if we don’t correct this awful mess.
Call. write and email your congressmen and women. Flood their offices with this outrage. Our efforts to correct these civil injustices must not falter. I hope Hackett decides to run again in ’06 with election reform has part of his platform. If he does. I am moving to Ohio.
If Hackett won’t fight for honest elections in America, if he won’t fight for a fair election in his own race for office, WHAT IN THE HELL does he think he’s going to accomplish in Iraq??? He’s just another……….!
I, for one, refuse to buy into their wingnut coincidence theories
"Coincidences that Democrats would be well advised to get used to as long as most of them are willing to do nothing about it. "
I for one refuse to give another dime to the DNC until they do something about paperless voting.
I’d love to see paper ballots. When the Demcorats lose again using paper ballots because they have no ideas, then you guys can "hate" those who "voted" for those sorry Repubs. You will find someone or something to blame – that’s for sure.
Really, Paul? You’d "love to see paper ballots?"
What have you done to see them become a reality? Have you contacted a single one of your Republican Congressional friends who refuse to even allow such a bill to come up for debate in either the House or the Senate?
I doubt it. You are nothing more than hot air and couldn’t give a shit about what happens to democracy in your country.
Paul- The issue isn’t with losing.
The issue is that once paper ballots are restored, anyone who loses can’t complain anymore and that means any republicans or democrats that lose a race lose it at their discretion.
Until that time however, **some Democrat or Republican** could just as easily login to the computer, select an entire county of registered voters, and hit the "delete" key by accident. There goes all those voters, and all their voices! They could even switch the memory card around and watch all the votes get destroyed by a malicious program.
The partisans could then come back and claim it was an "error", and will never happen again…Uh oh, then one week later **it happens again**
The solution? ** VERIFIED PAPER BALLOTS: VERSUS STOLEN ELECTIONS!!! **
http://www.countthevote.org
Doug E.
I e-mailed Bob Fitrakis and asked if he sould explain things to Hackett attorney-to-attorney.
You can also go to Hackett’s web page and send him an e-mail urging him to fight this:
http://www.hackettforcongress.com
I’ve e-mailed Ohio papers and the DCCC. Does anyone have any other ideas?
My feeling is they’re vulnerable to exposure now because this is not a presidential election and because many people are catching on to the scam.
Brad, since you’ve spoken with a few Congresspeople on your radio show, perhaps you can reach them directly (Cynthia McKinney would eb a great place to start) and have her contact Hackett directly? My gut tells me that since he is not a politician by nature, Hackett WILL fight if he can be convinced he’s been cornholed.
The DCCC:
dccc@dccc.org
Cynthia McKinney:
http://www.countthevote.org
The war is on!!!!
Doug E.
I’m with you, Doug. Enough is enough. I’m making some goddamn noise.
Anybody else?
gEE, THE TIMING OF THAT ACVR RELEASE ON THE DAY OF THE SPECIAL ELECTION–DISTRACTION OF THE REAL VOTING GROUPS TO TAKE FOCUS OFF OHIO?
Uh-huh :nods in agreement: Jim Cirile. Smoke and Mirrors!
Until we have an independeent system of auditing elections, I fear that this will continue. It seems clear that the Republicans have succeeded again in manipulating the votes in Ohio and we seem powerless to affect meaningful change. I think that the only thing that will bring this nation around is if a million people go to Washington and blockade the White House and Congress.
And those million people will not go unless the big organizations like Move On get behind this issue, which they inexplicably will not.
I’m going to DC next month for the impeachment rally however, and hopefully we’ll get 100,000+ people.
**Howard Wilkinson** also thinks there might be something fishy going on….But won’t go out on a limb yet.
4) Optical Scanners are ES&S model 315
Central tabulator runs ERS
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Link that supports some of the above
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/p...35/1077/NEWS01
Schmidt had the same thing happen in the primary….This is why its very **STRANGE** how the results came out….
"About fifteen minutes ago, a rethug official, a Clermont County
party officer, said that the delay in finishing the last 91 precincts
was due to "high humidity causing some problems in handling the ballots…" BULLSHIT ! (edit – I heard this LIVE on air from an
interview with this official, I think a rethug BoE director. And I believe he said "…we’ll hand-count the remaining 91 precincts." So this could have been a lie to give time to rig the tab output. Jes’ sayin’.
We NEED to have eyewitness reports.)
The ES&S opscan tabulators and the election workers are in AIR-CONDITIONED ROOMS!!! Are they really so arrogant as to think we’re THAT STUPID? Of course they do! (edit – I’d be VERY surprised if ANY polling places were not A-C’d)
BTW, Clermont uses ES&S tabs to "count" opscan paper. This IS the county where ballots were discovered with white stickers
over Kerry votes. WTF happened to THAT crime?
And there’s word that "some monitors (people) have been shoved out of the rooms." Not sure if this was in Clermont or
another county, but this has ALL the hallmarks of FRAUD!
(edit – this was reported on air at same time that "there are reports of voting irregularities… But that story died in the media.
Perhaps just a rumor, later proven not true. I don’t know…)"
http://tinyurl.com/9jfz5
Doug E.
Jim and Doug (and everyone else) – Rep. Cynthia McKinney is currently scheduled for this weekend’s Special Edition of The BRAD SHOW!
So you can call in and ask her yourself! 🙂
I volunteered a bit for Hackett in Cincinnati (I was an outside agitator from the west side of Cincinnati) and I told a couple of fellow workers about my concern that there could be vote fraud. Another interesting thing happened here that night. WCKY (1530) runs Randi Rhodes on a tape delay from 6-10pm. She had Hackett on her show from 7-8pm and devoted the whole hour to urging people to vote. I had to find out about that the day after the election, because when I tuned Randi in at 7:00 on election night it was dead air. Dead air for 30-40 minutes. The Program Director for 1530 supposedly said a transmitter caught on fire. I suspect dirty tricks abounded on many levels that night.
Another 51%-49% GOP victory on either electronic machines or optical scanners, after the obligatory "mysterious" shutdown/crash during the final counting towards the end, and the "mysterious" thousands of votes going one-way, always GOP.
Here’s another interesting article, about the GOP government harassing a citizen who started a 9/11 site. The MSM won’t cover this story of U.S. government harassing a citizen via the Patriot act:
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/art...8131/30662.htm
http://www.911wasalie.com/phpwebsite/
Throughout American history, only grassroots movements by regular citizens like this guy, and the anti-Iraq War movement, and the anti-vote-fraud movement, changed things. None of these stories are in the MSM. Why not?
How come the MSM gave a forum to the "ballots sticking together because of humidity" ridiculously false story, in the Hackett election, but didn’t question why this never happened before, and didn’t ask the simple question, "Do you guys have air-conditioning"? And how come no one there at the counting, is saying anything about this? There false stories are getting worse and worse; sloppier and sloppier, their patterns are getting more and more predictable (shutdown at the end; miraculous thousands of GOP votes). It’s called "ARROGANCE".
…and the 51%-49% victory pattern. I forgot to mention that above.
There was no humidity causing problems, except at the end, late at night, after it got cooler. I’m glad their stories are getting more and more ridiculous. There was no humidiy for the counting of the first 90% of the votes.
Do they think the people are buying this SHIT?
It is interesting to note that Wayne Madsen has noted these discrepancies in the Ohio 2nd district vote on his website (http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/) and referenced Cint Curtis, too. He is publishing a lot of interesting stuff on his website lately. He seems to be privy to a lot of insider intelligence due to his past career in the military and the NSA. I think this blog’s readers should be paying attention to what he is saying about the relationship of the Bushes with Coin-gate in Ohio and espionage by Larry Franklin & AIPAC, election fraud, etc. There may be a lot more connections between these seeming disparate scandals than appears obvious on the surface.
Humidity? In an air-conditioned room? And they call US conspiracy theorists?
You are right, Mr. Mills. It IS ridiculous. An air conditioner acts as a dehumidifier in cooling the air. Most educated adults are aware of this simple fact of life. Why does no one question the liars who make such fraudulent claims?
If the rooms (where this "problem" with humidity) were indeed air-conditioned, that would be a fact for evidence, wouldn’t it?
Any more work being done on this?