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"Still Outta Here..."
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dr. Alan H. Levinson
said on 8/13/2005 @ 4:08 pm PT...
Hope all is going well. You handle the R & R, we'll handle the trolls!!
Alan
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COLLEEN
said on 8/13/2005 @ 5:19 pm PT...
Have fun, Brad. Have too much fun!
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Ricky
said on 8/13/2005 @ 5:47 pm PT...
Thank god your back Brad. While you were away, it came to public attention a Radio Station was taking money from a childrens fund. About 800k has been taken.
While the mainstream media has decided as usual to not report on this story, I know that you will cover it.
I cant wait to read the story.
Remember: " Its not whats right and left, its whats right and wrong."
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Nana
said on 8/13/2005 @ 6:45 pm PT...
What are you doing at that keyboard, young man? Get your butt back on vacation! lol
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 8/13/2005 @ 7:27 pm PT...
Rick - I was back long enough to see your trolling about the Air America story, which --- from the little I've seen of it --- seems very much to be a non-story that has already been dealt with by AA.
I realize you're looking to troll, and unwilling to answer the questions from those who have commented asking you for a link with more information, and you're unwilling to respond to those who have already given you information on AA's response to the story already...But it would be nice if you avoided posting the same unresponsive non-story propoganda/info again and again on all blog items here.
As well, if our democracy is at stake by this matter, or American Troops are dying because of it, or innocent civilisans anywhere in the world, please let me know when I get back and I'll do my best to give a damn about it.
In the meantime, the Bush Regime and it's apologists in Congress (and their sycophants like yourself around the country) have brought the most corruption and evil and danger to this country and this world that I am aware of in the entire history of our country. So I'm sure, like me, you have concerns about that as much as an opportunistic attack from the Right directed at some radio network, right?
As far as I know, as well, they are using that network to spread truth to counter the very danger lies and propaganda of the Rightwing controlled radio spectrum...so I'm sure you're in favor of that as well and would hate to see more lies being directed this time towards them...But who knows?
I'll hopefully be out in the woods by the time you answer, so I'm sure others can reply in my absense.
Have a great day, Rick! Don't bump your head on the bridge on your way back under!
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Jerry
said on 8/13/2005 @ 7:48 pm PT...
One thing I have learned in my 58 years is that life is easier when you tell the truth. Some professional liars and misleaders (Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter et al.) have become wealthy by repeating and spinning neoncon lies but these are not happy people. These are incredibly flawed individuals who will continually be exposed for their hypocrisy. Air America is a breath of fresh air. It is the radio home of truth.
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Cole...
said on 8/13/2005 @ 11:00 pm PT...
I have not seen any word in any of the treads on the d.o.d. -rumsfeld-bush proposed commemoration of the 911 tragedy by having a celebratory "freedom walk".
So, let me supply one---------"bullshit" !!
The SHAME goes on, to lower and lower depths.
There is a also a commonly used word for that area of hair found around the penis and/or vagina, I think it's --yes I'm sure it's called--- a "bush".
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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kahlyre
said on 8/13/2005 @ 11:06 pm PT...
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Mark
said on 8/13/2005 @ 11:13 pm PT...
We have to mention the best quote out of an August 05 Hardball interview: When Mrs. Palmer, mother of fallen Lance Corporal Edward Schroeder, was asked about the overall conduct of the war by Bush and his administration she replied with an incredible insight, "Well...I personally believe that since it's not working, then we have to make a change. It's not worth the sacrifice if it's just more bodies onto the heap. You know like president Bush said he wanted to `stay the course and honor the memory of the ones who died by continuing to fight.' If it didn't work before why does fighting more...you know... do the same thing over and over that's the- expecting different results is... I think the explanation of insanity."
Ten hut! Patriot-mom and dad, Mrs. Palmer and Mr. Schroeder on deck! Salute!
Tim, TJ, John, Shelly, Mike, Eduardo and the rest of us at ground zero....
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 8/14/2005 @ 1:42 am PT...
Remembering How to be Human
Right now, at this crisis point in human existence, at the literal age of survival or the pit, we need to remember and internalize this poem to life and love: For the Beauty of the Earth:
For the beauty of the earth;
For the glory of the skies;
For the love which from our birth
Over and around us lies;
Lord of all, to Thee we raise
This our hymn of grateful praise.
For the wonder of each hour
Of the day and of the night,
Hill and vale and tree and flower,
Sun and moon, and stars of light;
Lord of all, to Thee we raise
This our hymn of grateful praise.
For the joy of human love,
Brother, sister, parent, child,
Friends on earth and friends above,
For all gentle thoughts and mild;
Lord of all, to Thee we raise
This our hymn pf grateful praise.
For each perfect gift of Thine,
To our race so freely given,
Graces, human and divine,
Flowers of earth and buds of heaven;
Lord of all, to Thee we raise
This our hymn of grateful praise.!!!
Where is the gratitude? Where the love?
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Ricky
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:26 am PT...
Simply turn on CNN and you'll see the AA story. You and I both know that if it was Rush Limbaugh that did that you would have blogged the hell out of that story.
You claim to be independant, but your not. You already have strings attached to you. You'd be a fool to say anything bad about AA wouldnt you. You want them to help you.
You are a crook and a liar. I guess your partisen ties are more important then the children from who the money was taken.
I read you loud and clear.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Ricky
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:39 am PT...
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Jerry
said on 8/14/2005 @ 6:16 am PT...
#13
I told you before. AA is repaying the money. One individual borrowed that money and he is no longer with AA.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 8/14/2005 @ 9:45 am PT...
Ricky - Keep trying! Anything to avoid people dying for a trumped up cause vis a vis the bloody hands of your "President" and your Congress.
When I'm back outta the woods next week, I'll look forward to reading the Republican funded websites you pointed to (CNS is a phony news service which I know due to firsthand experience and the WaTimes is, as I'm sure you know already, a White House organ). That said, and despite AA actually being a *competitor* of mine (I do a show on a different network) I'll be happy to look more into your silly thesis when I get back.
Keep up the apologies and obfuscations while I'm gone, Ricky! It's only democracy and thousands of American human lives at stake! Best of luck to ya!
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Nana
said on 8/14/2005 @ 9:58 am PT...
Peg C, that was absolutely beautiful. I have something I will share with you, that was my fathers, and is now mine.
O Great Spirit, whose breath gives Life to the World and whose voice is heard in the soft breeze...make us wise so that we may understand what you have taught us, help us learn the lessons you have hidden in every leaf and rock, make us always ready to come to you with clean hands and straight eyes, so when life fades, as the fading sunset, our spirit may come to you without shame.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Ricky
said on 8/14/2005 @ 9:59 am PT...
Brads just upset cause he knows Im right.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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sojo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 10:12 am PT...
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 10:24 am PT...
Ricky you haven't been right a day in your life. Tell me how often do you go after everyone in a group for one bad apple? I don't see you complaining about Haliburton when Cheney was bribing foreign officials to get contracts in their country. Do you complain about all of Fox news during the Oreilly sexual harrassment scandal? The person who took the money is no longer affiliated with AA and AA is now paying back the money. Now a scandal would be if AA kept the guy, tried to cover it up or pay off people. You know kinda like Bill Oreilly did?
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 8/14/2005 @ 11:58 am PT...
Thanks Brad for bopping Ricky #3.
If Ricky (and other young Republicans) would unplug their IVs from the right wing lie machines they might learn something.
The truth is that a fellow named Brian Maloney (a talk host since 1993 who is compared to Rush Limbaugh by Time Magazine) took bits and pieces of articles regarding the NYC DOI investigation of the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club, Charles Rosen and Evan Cohen. Using a devious turn of phrase, Maloney (or should we call him BALONEY?) wrote an article that requires more than a quick scan to ken that while his statements seem to implicate Air America they actually do not.
The truth is that the NYC DOI (Dept. of Investigation) is investigating the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club and its executives Charlie Rosen and Evan Cohen for illegitimately funneling money into Cohen’s company, Progress Media. (AA was started as part of Progress Media.)
Info from Wikipedia: Progress Media (Evan Cohen) made false claims to AA that it had amassed $30 million in venture capital prior to its debut when in fact it had only collected $6 million. Evan Cohen was one of 2 individuals from Guam involved in raising this money.
The most interesting tidbit to me is that Evan Cohen was a Republican political operative in Guam & former chief of staff for Republican Governor Tommy Tonaka. It was reported that Cohen had unpaid business debts in Guam. Although Cohen denies this, it is interesting to note that Tommy Tanaka pleaded guilty to corruption charges in 2003. !!!
Cohen resigned under fire from AA over a year ago after they discovered Cohen’s numbers didn’t add up. Both AA and Gloria Wise B&G Club may have been victims of the same book-cooking scheme. If you do your research you will find that “no authoritative source has said that Air America is being investigated.”
The above sentence (in quotes & bold) was written by the blogger known as Maha, who – bless her heart – has researched this story and provided a profusion of REAL LINKS to REAL DOCUMENTS unlike the right wing and MSM outlets who use the tired old “some people say” line in order to “catapult the propaganda” (and that last quote comes directly from Lyin’ King George.)
Take a look at how the right wing outlets use smoke and mirrors to fool their readers into thinking they are reporting real news:
From Maha: “Let's recap. What do we have so far? All allegations that the allegedly pilfered Gloria Wise money went to Air America Radio are based on one, and only one, source: Michael Horowitz in the prestigious, if ephemeral, Bronx News. And Horowitz got his information from "informed sources" of undetermined origin.
And, folks, that's it. Brian Maloney picked up Horowitz, and Hewitt and Michelle Malkin picked up Maloney, and by means of much huffing and puffing and overheated rhetoric (Malkin: "Will Air America's self-proclaimed champions of the poor and downtrodden--Franken? Garafolo? Springer?--touch this story with a ten-foot pole?") the righties manage to create much smoke without any visible fire. The rightie bloggers link to each other's allegations as "proof"; they link to anything they can find that mentions Air America in a negative light as "proof"; but in fact nothing has been made public that supports Malkin's claim.”
If anyone is really interested in finding the truth behind these claims (trumpeted by Ricky), I would advise reading Mahablog and following all the links provided. Frankly, I’m appalled at the way the so-called “conservative,” right wing lie-machine talk show hosts & media “news” outlets knowingly deceive the public. When will the true Republicans wake up?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 8/14/2005 @ 12:18 pm PT...
Addition to my comment above --- my husband suggested I provide a definition for the word "ken" and also that I clarify my usage of AA for Air America (since Alcoholics Anonymous is referred to as AA.)
I'm of the opinion that if you don't know a word used in an article, you should look it up. But I will give the definition here:
From The Free Dictionary online:
ken (k n)
n.
1. Perception; understanding: complex issues well beyond our ken.
2.
a. Range of vision.
b. View; sight.
v. kenned or kent (k nt), ken·ning, kens Scots
v.tr.
1. To know (a person or thing).
2. To recognize.
v.intr.
To have knowledge or an understanding.
[From Middle English kennen (influenced by Old Norse kenna, to know), from Old English cennan, to declare; see gn - in Indo-European roots.]
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/14/2005 @ 12:44 pm PT...
Ricky, dear, I read the links you posted.
The first said that although Cohen is no longer associated with Air America (because they found out he took money he shouldn't have), the owners that DIDN'T take the money are paying it back within two years because, well, it's the right thing to do. Okay, so it's what we've been telling you all along.
The second article was an opinion piece that's 10 months old, and the information is completely out of date. Pay more attention to your source dates please.
As far as the Moonie newspaper, bless their hearts, they're kinda behind in the story too, since they talk about FORMER owners who took money inappropriatedly, but mention nothing at all about repayment by the CURRENT owners who are trying to right what someone else did wrong. (I'm sure they didn't leave that part out on PURPOSE, right?) Maybe you should write to them and suggest they read Bradblog to help them keep up with CURRENT EVENTS.
Now, would you care to discuss any CURRENT important issues?
Or shall we stick with old news and rehash something from, say, the Kennedy administration? (I might have to research a little bit first, I was only four when he was murdered)
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 8/14/2005 @ 12:48 pm PT...
Jerry 58-
We are a truth clache. Us almost-sixties are pretty saavy. Please realize that this country is about to be nuked in the name of oil and overweening power. DON'T ACCEPT THE MSM BLATHER!!!
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Ricky
said on 8/14/2005 @ 2:15 pm PT...
Ok how about some of these.
William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
{snipped by WP... see http://boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm for the original post}
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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vdres
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:04 pm PT...
Trivia compared to starting a war on lies and stealing elections and treason, Ricky. Where are all the republican criminals? Probably not enough room on the server. Why don't you just say that most politicians are crooks? And why do you guys let Gingrich off for his blow jobs and freak about Clinton's?
The full new scholarly report on the stolen election. Don't let the title fool you. It's about electronic theft:
Dr. Dennis Loo Report
http://www.projectcensor...wsflash/voter_fraud.html
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:14 pm PT...
Has anyone thought of this except me?
The insurgents are Sunni's. The Iranians are Shiites. Why would the Iranian Shiites be helping the Sunni insurgents, like the MSM/CNN/Bush is saying?
Am I right about this? It's so obvious, I'm even thinking I'm wrong...
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:19 pm PT...
Ricky: I'm with you! Get all the lying politicians out of office, including Bush and his entire cabinet! Now we're on the same page!
Maybe you'll finally realize we're after ALL lying politicians, not just Republicans!
Are you for ousting Bush, because he lied us into the Iraq War? Or only for ousting Democrats who lie?
Please answer...
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:21 pm PT...
Ricky: Do you think there are WMD's?
YES OR NO:
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:28 pm PT...
I'm not so sure many bloggers on here listen to Air America radio. I don't. But I do know that rightwing radio (O'HannityBaugh) is afraid of them. I listen to rbnlive and Brad's excellent streaming radio show. They are better than Air America radio, not that AA is bad, they're good, too. And they all lie 100% less than O'HannityBaugh, check out mediamatters.org, who keeps documentation on all their lies.
Ricky, why don't you start disputing some of mediamatter's documented lies by O'HannityBaugh? I'd like to see your research to prove mediamatters is incorrect.
Keep up the great work, Brad, on your radio show, and get Christopher Bollyn on for your best show ever. That's my request, if you take requests.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:31 pm PT...
Ricky you assclown. You get defeated on the AA story so then you go to some Rush Limbaugh list of democrats. I notice you put Clinton at the top of the list. Since you seem to be very uninformed about the whole Clinton situation I think I will enlighten you. First off Ken Starr was a partisan hack who used everything including threatening to throw people in jail if they didn't lie for him, taking away custody rights from families if they didn't lie for him and etc. Starr was a dirty weasal and all he could dig up was a blowjob bfd. Do you know how many other presidents got Jiggy in the white house with someone other than their wife? The whole Paula Jones situation was fraudulant. The Monica Lewinsky questioning was irrelevant to the Paula Jones case and putting Clinton in a Perjury trap.
Perjury Trap
In the case of United States vs. Chen, 933 F.2d 793, 796-97, A perjury trap is created when the government calls a witness before the grand jury for the primary purpose of obtaining testimony from him in order to prosecute him later for perjury. United States v. Simone, 627 F. Supp. 1264, 1268 (D. N.J. 1986) (perjury trap involves "the deliberate use of a judicial proceeding to secure perjured testimony, a concept in itself abhorrent"). It involves the government's use of its investigatory powers to secure a perjury indictment on matters which are neither material nor germane to a legitimate ongoing investigation of the grand jury. See United States v. Crisconi, 520 F. Supp. 915, 920 (D. Del. 1981). Such governmental conduct might violate a defendant's fifth amendment right to due process, Simone, 627 F. Supp. at 1267-72, or be an abuse of grand jury proceedings, Crisconi, 520 F. Supp. at 920. See generally Gershman, The "Perjury Trap", 129 U. Pa. L. Rev. 624, 683 (1981).
{ snipped by WP. for the original post see http://www.perkel.com/po...tics/clinton/perjury.htm }
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 3:33 pm PT...
As for your list of democrats Ricky I could give you a list 20 miles long of Republican criminals. One including the Mayor of Waterbury, CT who was convicted of soliciting teenage prostitutes.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 8/14/2005 @ 4:02 pm PT...
Hey Brad,
Just a few things:
Ricky's post is way too long. It should be removed on that basis alone.
But, please don't remove Neo's post #29 (also long) because I found it fascinating.
Neo, you must be a lawyer, so I guess we better not tell any lawyer jokes here. I had never heard of a Perjury Trap before, so, once again, I have to say thanks to BBers for the great education I've received here.
psssst... Winter and all of the other guest bloggers have been great. Maybe you can persuade them to stay on for an extra week after you get back from your vacation. I fear that otherwise your vacation's gonna get undone big time as you try to catch up with your email and do the lone blogger gig.
VG
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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sojo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 4:18 pm PT...
*sigh*
I guess I have to retract my own comment (#18). Looks like the Walken for Prez thing is just a con job rawstory uncovered it. K, i started, now its Ricky's turn - and we all know he has ALOT of retractions to make.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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sojo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 4:25 pm PT...
LMAO the freepers were all over this Walken hoax!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Jerry
said on 8/14/2005 @ 4:36 pm PT...
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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sojo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 5:20 pm PT...
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/14/2005 @ 5:23 pm PT...
NEO, you forgot to add that Ken Starr wasted over $50 million taxpayer money on this.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/14/2005 @ 5:30 pm PT...
#36
Sorry Big Dan, I should have mentioned it but my main focus was on the perjury trap which the Republicans seem to be all over.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 8/14/2005 @ 6:25 pm PT...
Excellent post, Neo! Cheers!! And thanks Big Dan for bringing up the incredible waste of taxpayer money for this "impeachment in search of a crime" typical reThugliCon tactic. As Al Franken (as Old Al) says on the Oy-Oy-Oy Show --- "Bastards!"
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/14/2005 @ 6:58 pm PT...
re #31 where Valley Girl wrote:
"Ricky's post is way too long. It should be removed on that basis alone.
But, please don't remove Neo's post #29 (also long) because I found it fascinating. "
Around here the general rule is that you can make a post as long as you like ... provided that you wrote it yourself, or that it is not otherwise available on the net; If you want us to read something that is already available you are asked to post a URL or a link and you may quote a paragraph or even a few but you should definitely indicate when you are quoting, lest readers erroneously assume you have written the post yourself.
How many of us seriously thought Ricky wrote the bulk of comment #23? Anyone? Not me! I've snipped it not only on the basis of length but also because it's already available elsewhere --- it took me one try to find the original on google --- but also because the manner in which Ricky presented it was clearly plaigiarism. That's when you post what someone else has written without giving credit to the author.
How many of us seriously thought Neo wrote the bulk of comment #29? Anyone? Not me! I've snipped it not only on the basis of length but also because it's already available elsewhere --- it took me one try to find the original on google --- but also because the manner in which Neo presented it was clearly plaigiarism. That's when you post what someone else has written without giving credit to the author.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I don't care what political philosophy you support, and I don't even care what Valley Girl finds fascinating. For those who do not follow these basic rules, your comments may be liable to snippage or removal.
And that's the end of that story. Carry on!
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 8/15/2005 @ 5:40 am PT...
Hi Winter!
Well, I was one of those dummies (or maybe the only dummy) who thought that Neo actually wrote the bulk of comment #29 de novo for Brad Blog, and I wanted to make sure it didn't disappear before I had time to read it properly!! Duh!!! I've gotten to the point where I can recognize trolls on the thread . Next step, plagiarism .
Thanks for finding and posting the link.
By the way, Winter, you are fascinating!
VG
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:10 am PT...
CNN/Bush/Rumsfeld are pimping a war with Iran, by saying they're helping Iraqi Sunni insurgents. Iran has a majority of Shiites and so does Iraq, and the Iraq Shiites are now running the country, and they are moving closer to Iran, because both are majority Shiite.
Iran WOULD NOT be helping the Sunni minority insurgents, contrary to what CNN/Bush/Rumsfeld is saying. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!
No one thinks this is a big deal?
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:27 am PT...
p.s. Winter,
In case it wasn't clear in #40, I was making a distinction between the two posts because I erroneously thought one contained new information, while the other clearly didn't. It wasn't on the basis of ideology.
The rules are completely fair, and, indeed, it would be a mistake to apply them differentially according to political philosophy. I hope you understand now that that wasn't what I was advocating, although I can see how it might have come off that way.
VG
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:49 am PT...
Alas Winter Patriot I couldn't take credit for Perkel's perjury trap defense. Yet it is a good article.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:53 am PT...
Valley Girl. Don't count me out yet if I had taken the time I could have wrote such an informative post. I did study politics quite a bit in school and wrote quite a few informative studies on various court cases including the flag burning/desecration cases. Even so, Ricky is still an assclown. I really should take time to do the html for the links.
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/15/2005 @ 9:12 am PT...
OT ALERT!!
(Or did I miss this?)
Coalition group demands dogtags for either all or none
I'm so proud of you people, and proud to have been part of the "6 or 7" from so early on. Before I found Bradblog I felt powerless. This place sparks courage and hope.
THE VELVET REVOLUTION LIVES!!
Oh, and Ricky - I'm sorry dear, I'll get back to you on the subjects you cut and pasted above, if you tell me exactly what it is about those old issues you feel is still worth debating. At the moment there are pressing CURRENT issues that need my attention. BTW, you're welcome to join in on discussion of any of those, if you have some original thoughts that you think might be worth sharing. And of course you're welcome to come to the impeachment parties - bring ice and gingerale, I'll make punch!
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/15/2005 @ 9:17 am PT...
in #44 Neo wrote: "I really should take time to do the html for the links." ... which is a good idea, but in my view it is trivial compared to another good idea: you should take time to point out when and where you are quoting other writers.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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vdres
said on 8/15/2005 @ 9:46 am PT...
The html help to a new page doesn't work (see comment 24 on new vote fraud report, including Clint Curtis. I've used it several times and the text shows up, but no link. What's up with the html generator?
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:11 am PT...
re #47 vdres "What's up with the html generator?"
Some people are having trouble with the HTML generator. we think it may be browser- or OS-specific. Torqued [who wrote it] may be able to fix it, but he'll be out of the loop for a week or two. Suggest you do your best to work without it for the time being. Sorry for the inconvenience.
and re #40 Valley Girl "Winter, you are fascinating! "
No, not really ... hey! what's that???
Keep your eye on the ball, folks!
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:29 am PT...
VDRES #47,
If this is some kind of system problem, and you've used the CA successfully before, then this info won't help. But, if you've never gotten CA to work, there're some leads here.
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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Peggy
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:37 am PT...
Hi, Kes #45 - Your link doesn't work. But it's RAW STORY --- thanks for the tip. Hurray for the ads. I heard Cindy's ad (from somewhere on the net) --- she sounds great. If her ad could be played throughout the country, it would have a great impact. I'm sure the ads put on by VR and affiliates will also have a great impact. God Bless all Good Americans. I pray you can take back your country SOON --- I am so worried that the neo-cons are going to nuke somewhere in America, then Iran next. They must be stopped!
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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sojo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:42 am PT...
Just thought you all would like to know about that story on rawstory about the mexican AIDS victim granted asylum... thats a hoax too. The same forum (actually in the same thread too) that started the Walken hoax came up with this one too. And the guardian fell for it:
http://www.guardian.co.u...y/0,7369,1549084,00.html
At this rate it will only be a couple days before we hear about the "woman that ate her sons testicles" & the "bare breasts for bongs" campaign on the local news.
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:51 am PT...
OT ALERT!!! Re: Ohio and Elections
Am I out of the loop or is this new (and credible) info? Is Blackwell FINALLY getting busted on some of his s***?
This is from Wayne Madsen Report via whatreallyhappened.com:
"August 15, 2005 --- Ohio GOP Secretary of State and gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell cannot certify how Federal election assistance money was spent. Documents from the Ohio Secretary of State's office and the federal General Services Administration (GSA) provided to WMR indicate that some $30 million provided to Ohio as part of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) was not spent on preparations for the 2004 presidential election, as required by the law. In addition, of another $10,384,931 of Section 101 HAVA funds allocated to Blackwell, only $6,870,659.47 was obligated as of December 31, 2004. Even though the Section 101 funds were for education and training of Ohio voters and poll workers, accessibilty for voters, reporting vote fraud, and other administrative requirements, some of the money spent went to firms whose owners were top Ohio GOP political contributors. "
MORE
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:54 am PT...
Peg C re: #50 - OOPS! Not sure what happened there, I could have sworn I tried the link in a preview first. Oh well, blame it on the heat, it's so hot and dry around here the trees are fighting over dogs!
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Valley Girl
said on 8/15/2005 @ 10:55 am PT...
Winter #48
That was my ironic response to "I don't care what political philosophy you support, and I don't even care what Valley Girl finds fascinating" in #39.
Please try to start from the assumption that most of the dumb/ apparently offensive things that people do when they post comments have some kind of innocent explanation, and save the big guns, word-wise, for the repeat offenders.
You contribute so much in every way via Brad Blog and The Whispering Campaign. Thank you for all of your hard, hard work. Just don't let the pressure start to morph our favorite Brad Blog Concierge >> Brad Blog Bouncer >> Hotel California Concierge. That would be a loss to all at Brad Blog (excepting the trolls, of course).
VG
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texaslady
said on 8/15/2005 @ 11:43 am PT...
Big Dan - I direct you to an article by Alex Jones and Paul Joseph with regard to all leaves canceled as of 9/7/05 at Charleston S.C because an imminent nuclear exercise. Prisonplante.com
This article discusses why the fearmongering is being built up and how it would benefit the administration. Journalist Leland Lehrman was doing the reporting. Lets hope it is only an exercise drill.
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texaslady
said on 8/15/2005 @ 11:53 am PT...
Big Dan - look up R. Leland Lehrman has details and facts reporting on the preparations for the "drill". Shocking and amazing
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/15/2005 @ 12:02 pm PT...
re the VG #54 ... sorry ... I didn't catch your joke ... and I didn't mean to be snarky about what you found fascinating ... I was just kidding and typing too fast ... should have stuck in a but didn't ... my bad! don't worry... I'm not morphing.
Seriously, VG, no offense intended .. ever! oops! gotta run!
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notafraid
said on 8/15/2005 @ 12:10 pm PT...
Fear mongering is a tool of the elite to manage the herd.
The "spell" the media has created over the masses is broken and the truth is surfacing. Now they are the ones in fear. They believe their own lies instead of the law of the Universe. They felt they could control truth because they believe in the law of man. But the law of the Universe they do not control. We are now seeing their fear as they are losing control and natural law is in operation. The irony is palatable. The elite's tool of fear is now consuming them. We, as a nation, are in danger of a nuclear incident as their fear escalates. A desparate enemy can do the unthinkable, but ultimately they will be dealt with, no matter what they conjure up, because their "spells" no longer have any effect.
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Kira
said on 8/15/2005 @ 12:45 pm PT...
Ok, enough obsessing over the plagerism issue! We surely got the message, eh?
I extend my own hand to be whacked with the ruler, because I inadvertantly omitted credit for a paragraph I copied verbatim into a comment I made the other day (although I did immediately correct it and give the credit when I came back and realized it was missing.)
I think we need to hold ourselves to the high ideals we are demanding of our representatives in government! AND, we need to do better than the righties who consistently offer either no sources or non-credible ones.
That said, PLEASE, Neo --- keep on posting your excellent, insightful & intelligent comments! (You, too, VG!)
WP is leading the way and (by his example) encouraging us to not only "talk the talk" but "walk the walk"
Cheers & Keep On Trucking!
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 8/15/2005 @ 1:13 pm PT...
Hey Kira #59 (and WP #57),
Thanks. I probably I won't cancel my subscription to Brad Blog after all , nor do as I was tempted, which was to stop posting henceforth.
Hey Neo, echo Kira.
VG
COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/15/2005 @ 4:30 pm PT...
VG --- I've read my "offending" post several times in the past few hours trying to understand what bothered you ... and eventually I realized that you must have taken me literally when I wrote "I don't care what Valley Girl finds fascinating" which was really dumb of me ... because on its face, that's the same as saying "I don't care what VG thinks" which would be totally false ... in retrospect I realize I should have said "and I don't even care whether I think it's fascinating" ... my point being that my decision to snip both posts was not about content ... sorry again ... I didn't intend that to be taken literally ... which means I should have given you some hint of that in my original comment ... so I'm glad nobody cancelled any subscriptions and let's carry on ... umm ... squabbling! ... like a bunch of good friends should, ok?
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Neo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 5:08 pm PT...
Please wake me when the half of Ronald Reagan's brain they implanted into Bush Jr's head finally realizes its no longer living.
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/15/2005 @ 5:58 pm PT...
Neo ... it's no use, friend! That part was dead before they took it out of RWR ... long before GWB got a hold of it!
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:14 pm PT...
Hi Brad,
The government is set to delist the Brown Bear off the Endangered Species list even though it is worse off now than when it was placed on it. The Bushit administration is lying by saying the Yellowstone population is doing so well we can delist them now. They don't tell you:
1. The isolated Yellowstone population is suffering from inbreeding and the males are trying to get out.
2. While the Yellowstone numbers are up from 20 years ago, the government is taking away the last wildlands where wild animals roam. The Bushit administration has reversed Clinton's Roadless Rule law and changed the rules of forestry so his corporate industrial interests can take their last land. Offroad vehicle like snowmobiles are severly destroying their habitat.
3. The majority of all deaths are caused by humans who will be able to kill them to extinction. That way we can celebrate the Brown Bombers like we do in the state of CA.. on our flag or a frigin bank ad.
4. Senator Boxer's assistants sent me generic stock email messeges that were always inappropriate responses to the messege i sent her. She she never saw them.
5. The Chicago Bears publicity people get me sick. They wouldn't even pass information about their own symbol to the coach and players. They haven't been to the bowl in 20 years and if it came down to their loser publicity staff, the cubs will play the sox in the Series before they win another championship.
6. Extinction is forever. While the Bushit administration does so much wrong to people, we cannot allow them to destroy our wildlands and last wild animals.
7. Wild Bears Project Director Louisa Willcox at the not for profit National Resources Defense Council (NRDC) organization has a plan to reconnect the Yellowstone population to the Glacier Park Bears with a wildland's corridor if we act now!
8. HELP ME IF YOU CAN or contact Louisa:
lwillcox@nrdc.org
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big dan
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:16 pm PT...
I'm goin' in! (to the links I'm directed to, thanks).
I think it's a big deal that the media, in particular CNN, is letting all this pro-Iran scare stuff on TV, unchallenged. It took me exactly 1 (one) second to realize that Iranian Shiites would not be helping Sunni insurgents.
Here's why I keep harping on the media, and I believe they are complicent: it took me 1 second to think of this, and I'm not a reporter or journalist. But, CNN doesn't ask their pro-Iran War scarer's, "But, can you explain why Iran, which is majority Shiite, would be helping Sunni insurgents AGAINT Shiite insurgents???"
Once again, the media is not doing their job. This is bogus!!! Just like the media was complicent in the pre-Iraq War buildup. And, all those stories are FALSE, that the media has changed, and all those NYTimes apologies for biased pro-Iraq War reporting (which were all not true, we now know) were just talk. But, well planned talk...it was no mistake. The mainstream media is still the same.
Did you actually think, with the same exact 6 corporate owners as 3 years ago, it actually changed? I didn't.
My point MUST BE BROUGHT UP in the MSM:
WHY WOULD SHIITE IRAN BE HELPING SUNNI INSURGENTS AGAINST SHIITE IRAQI'S???
Am I right? Or am I off-base? Let me know if I'm full of hot air...
COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:22 pm PT...
Here's what may be sad. Are dumbed down dopey Americans too stupid to understand something this simple? Bush and Rove have it down to an art. They know most Americans and the sound-bite MSM will understand, "Iranians are helping the insurgents." Most Americans can't understand beyond one sentence, sadly.
COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
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Peggy
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:42 pm PT...
Hi, Big Dan #66 - I think the MSM are just hiring air-heads. The primary qualifications for getting a job are stupidity and love of money; candidates who care about truth in journalism are automatically disqualified for a MSM job.
COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:45 pm PT...
Wanna see a real newspaper? I got my American Free Press in the mail today, and their top story is:
"SPY RING BUSTED: AIPAC SCANDAL BREAKS LOOSE"
"Grand jury indictments handed down on Aug. 4 against a senior Pentagon official and two Washington-based lobbyists linked to Israel paint a grim picture of a much wider espionage ring involving unidentified high level U.S. and Israeli government officials, diplomats and spies.
AFP has obtained a copy of that grand jury indictment. The three at the center of the case are: Lawrence Anthony Franklin, who held a top secret security clearance and worked under the prominent neocon, Douglas Feith, within the office of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Steven J. Rosen, formerly director of foreign policy issues at American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC); and Keith Weisman, a senior Middle East analyst in the same Washington-based lobby group."
http://www.americanfreep...s.net/html/spy_ring.html
This is a weekly newspaper...check your own newspaper today. Was this story even IN your paper? ...let alone on the front page???
AFP is the only newspaper which covered, and continues to cover, vote rigging on electronic voting machines, and had extensive articles covering the Clint Curtis story.
COMMENT #69 [Permalink]
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 8/15/2005 @ 6:49 pm PT...
COMMENT #70 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 8/15/2005 @ 7:16 pm PT...
BUSHW@CKER
WHAT TO DO NOW, I'm blown away by all these stories of "live terror drills" ,trucks blowing up in Utah and 4 star generals being sacked for being human.
My 18 year old daugther is travelling down the east coast from NY to FL AT THE MOMENT ,frick I hope all this is BS,Its driving me crazy,just waiting for her to leave the states.
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Neo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 8:16 pm PT...
WP do you think RR even realizes he's dead yet? or will that take another 10 years?
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sojo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 8:43 pm PT...
MMIIXX,
im beginning to think the "terror drills" alert has blown itself out, either:
(a) it was a real op & will be cancelled due to high online exposer (unless they want a revolt), OR
(b) it was a clever ploy by al-CIAduh to use the online/alternative media to gin up fear and possibly distract from (the plame investigation?) something just under the radar.
It just has that "better mention it 'just-in-case'" vibe that has helped it spread, but now its to the point of fear-mongering. AND in the very unlikely event that the drills do go "live", it would be EXTREMELY likely that the net would go down too - because if not then blame at the government would spread like wildfire. So,now i figure its kind of like that Walkenforpres hoax, only started by some higher up in the foodchain. Moving on...
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/15/2005 @ 9:25 pm PT...
OMG!! Neo #71 you knocked me right off my chair! ROTFLMARO!!
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Neo
said on 8/15/2005 @ 9:56 pm PT...
#73
Well WP you do know RR really died 10 years ago he was just kept alive while they were doing the transplant to GWB.
Seriously though if you paid attention much during the Reagan years, Reagan used the tactic of using falsified information about the nicuruaguans to make us be in fear even though the CIA was telling him different intelligence he tried to make us fear them. Then back during the Reagan years you had people like Cheney and Rumsfeld in his administration who were telling us false information about the Russians that helped increase the cold war paranoia. The CIA knew as far back as Eisenhower that the Russians didn't have the weapons capability of being a real threat to our country. People like Cheney and Rumsfeld formed an alternative intelligence group to try to claim because we couldn't find the intelligence about weapons and couldn't find that weapons existed then that mean that they did exist. This reverse logic has carried over to the current administration. It's sad because even Reagan had the common sense to push the neocons to the side and now you have GWB in league with them.
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Kira
said on 8/15/2005 @ 11:05 pm PT...
MMIIXX #70
I tend to agree with Sojo. Try not to worry!
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big dan
said on 8/15/2005 @ 11:17 pm PT...
Here's the article mentioned by TEXASLADY above...about all leaves cancelled after 7/7...all I can say about it, is September's coming up soon, and if something happens, then this guy was all over it! There's a link to the story about the 4-star general who was relieved of command for...get this...sex offenses??? That doesn't sound right! And even if that story was true, it was just "brushed over" in the media, a big story like a 4-star general relieved of command? Like that happens every day? He wasn't a private at Abu Gharib, you know! No matter which story is true, one thing for certain, is that a 4-star general was fired, and the media was very quiet about a huge story like that.
http://www.prisonplanet....05/110805terrordrill.htm
COMMENT #77 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 8/15/2005 @ 11:58 pm PT...
Me worry ,no chance.Crazy yes worry no.
and no BS my 20 year old son is in Japan arrived 4 days ago ,typical .
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 8/16/2005 @ 3:39 am PT...
MMIIXX
I wish I could provide you and your family with some realistic comfort and reassurance, however nobody really knows what this Bush / Neocon Insurgency is fully capable of in their final death throws.
Mick, here's something to cheer you up a bit! ..... just DON'T read the last sentence.
COMMENT #79 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 8/16/2005 @ 5:04 am PT...
LOL BUSHW@CKER
we need to go back to the future
nothing surpries anymore
COMMENT #80 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 8/16/2005 @ 5:07 am PT...
COMMENT #81 [Permalink]
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supersoling
said on 8/16/2005 @ 5:08 am PT...
Hi Everyone,
Sorry it took so long to get some pics up. These aren't as good as Dredd's awesome pics but here they are in diarys at Booman.
Sorry I missed Dredd, but I hope to get back down there again soon.
Peace
Here
and here
COMMENT #82 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/16/2005 @ 6:24 am PT...
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texaslady
said on 8/16/2005 @ 7:06 am PT...
Bush and Co have to tread more lightly in their "commander of the world program" Because more of us are watching. Because of this blog and all of you, I am better informed than ever
I am in awe of what Brad and The Velvet Revolution are doing, providing hope that our voices will be heard again. I think before 2000 & 2004 and 9/11 we were getting very complacent in our safe worlds.
COMMENT #84 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 8/16/2005 @ 7:11 am PT...
#45
Kestrel,
I just wanted to share what popped up when I tried your link from comment #45 because it seems a LITTLE odd:
"error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated."
Is it me or is that creepy? Have others gotten stopped by things like this before?
COMMENT #85 [Permalink]
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bluebear2
said on 8/16/2005 @ 7:51 am PT...
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 7:52 am PT...
Spend the remaining blogathon money!
COMMENT #87 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 8:01 am PT...
By the way, picked up my wife's new Corvette Friday night. I guess I should donate $1 to the blog.
COMMENT #88 [Permalink]
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BLUEBEAR2
said on 8/16/2005 @ 8:17 am PT...
Karl's at it again:
http://aolsvc.news.aol.c...?id=20050814195009990008
From the article at AOL News:
"At the rally Sunday, Mike Miller, 54, of Gallatin echoed many of the speakers comments on judicial power, saying he believes Supreme Court justices try to create laws with their rulings instead of interpreting the Constitution."
"Activist justices --- we're trying to find out what we can do to stop that activity," he said. "Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments."
Where does the constitution say "Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments."?
COMMENT #89 [Permalink]
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texaslady
said on 8/16/2005 @ 8:19 am PT...
How about just donating your comments to Rush Limbaugh...where they are appreciated.
COMMENT #90 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 8/16/2005 @ 8:24 am PT...
COMMENT #91 [Permalink]
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/16/2005 @ 8:27 am PT...
Hanging my head here...I'm soooo html challenged...
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texaslady
said on 8/16/2005 @ 8:43 am PT...
Sorry Paul my comment was straight for you...just forgot your name.
COMMENT #93 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 9:07 am PT...
> Where does the constitution say "Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments."?
That information can be found in any good encyclopedia under "US Constitution."
Mine has it and it is a World Book Encyclopedia - 1970, I believe. That same encyclopedia says that "life begins at conception" and that was before all of our new technology which confirms it. The good news, millions of liberals have been killed in the womb. There was an article on it. Since younger people tend to vote Democratic, the Dems' holy sacrament of abortion has killed a huge base.
Thanks Texas Chick!
COMMENT #94 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/16/2005 @ 9:14 am PT...
#93
Actually if you take it according to Bill Frist, life begins when you start running for president. The dems only defend the right to choose. All responsibility is put on the families who decide to have the abortion. Why don't we have the DMV just take away all licenses since the person behind the wheel of a car has a right to choose whether they want to run someone over with it.
COMMENT #95 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/16/2005 @ 9:18 am PT...
#87
Wow I didn't know Bob Schindler posted on this board. When are you going to give the money back Mr. Schindler?
COMMENT #96 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 9:19 am PT...
> The dems only defend the right to choose.
That's a crock! Abortion is big business and Planned Parenthood hates it when a girl changes her mind to keep the kid if they think she should abort it. They are trying to shut down pro-life clinics. Go read "Blood Money" by ex-abortionist Carol Everett.
FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #97 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 10:13 am PT...
Texas Chick wrote:
> How about just donating your comments to Rush Limbaugh...where they are appreciated.
He mentioned you guys twice today during his opening. He said "kooks!"
COMMENT #98 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 10:25 am PT...
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texaslady
said on 8/16/2005 @ 11:01 am PT...
#98 And Paul are you supporting any children saved from an abortion? Funny how easy it is to save unborn children but allow a whole generation to die in war - for what?
Ms. Sheehan has more courage in one finger than you have in your whole body...she is doing something what have you done for anyone other than yourself ever?
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/16/2005 @ 11:08 am PT...
TexasLady re #99 we talked about this before, didn't we? please don't feed the trolls. He would like nothing better than to focus the discussion on himself ... so when you ask a question like that you are playing into his hands. Thank you.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 8/16/2005 @ 11:14 am PT...
I knew the robots in CONGRESS were bad when they made Dubya president for his second term in light of the proof of electronic and humanistic fraud which gave him the vote in Ohio (although they left out NV, NM, and FL) within 2 hours on Jan 6 accepting the fraudulent electoral vote. Read the article in the new Rolling Stone magazine about titled how the deck is stacked and it will make you sick. Revolution is called for cause this BUSHIT has got to be stopped.
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texaslady
said on 8/16/2005 @ 11:37 am PT...
Thank you WP you are right and I stand reminded.
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Kira
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:04 pm PT...
Paul #93 said: "The good news, millions of liberals have been killed in the womb. There was an article on it. Since younger people tend to vote Democratic, the Dems' holy sacrament of abortion has killed a huge base."
You have just exposed yourself as a religious hypocrite. You blasphemer - you viper. You rejoice in the death of multitudes. You rejoice in the death of Iraqis and Liberals. You rejoice in the death of Democrats. You are the worst of hypocrites.
On Judgment Day you will be judged a murderer! For even though you have not bravely marched into a war you relish, yea, salivate over – and pierced the heart of your perceived enemy with an actual weapon – you have lusted for this in your miserable, sinful heart. The Lord of Hosts knows what you desire in your heart and for these sins against the Father, you shall be held accountable.
John 15:12 (Jesus said) This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
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Mark 11:25-26
25 (Jesus said) And when ye stand praying, forgive if ye have aught against any, that your Father also who is in Heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
25 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in Heaven forgive your trespasses."
COMMENT #104 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:13 pm PT...
Kira, have you ever heard of sarcasm?
COMMENT #105 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:17 pm PT...
So Kira, you are a Christian?
COMMENT #106 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:22 pm PT...
Why of course I've heard of sarcasm and I surely enjoy a good laugh and jokes. However, I don't believe you intended your comment #93 as sarcasm or a joke.
But since I always like to give the benefit of doubt, I will ask you to define what you think it means to be a Christian and what do you think it means to believe in God.
COMMENT #107 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:26 pm PT...
The ball is in your court, Paul.
COMMENT #108 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:39 pm PT...
#96
Paul where are there reports of prolife centers being shut down? Its not bull dems support free choice. While your side believes in keeping a close mind like the abstinence only programs that ended up not changing statistics but making girls more likely to have anal sex or catch an std because they don't know about protection. Like the abstinence only programs aren't about money they teach using made up statistics and fear and produce no positive results. Paul I think its time you and your mail-order-bride Ricky take your leave.
COMMENT #109 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 12:49 pm PT...
There was an article about abortion and Democrat votes. But, I was being sarcastic about aborted Democrats. I have made other sarcastic remarks about others who have been aborted like the unwanted, minorities, etc., to make a point.
Christians are not perfect and you cannot base the belief on an individual, as you guys do all of the time - Bush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, me, whomever.
The Truth is the Truth and it will stand forever with or without sinful people. Jesus is God and the only way to Heaven. Christianity is about love and forgiveness. Christianity is a process to be perfected in Christ.
But, God gives governments and individuals the right to protect themselves/ourselves.
We can kill - we can kill animals to eat and we can kill to protect (self-defense).
Now, I doubt you or most of the leftists on this blog believe that Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
As far as believing in God, our belief is even a gift from God. Many are called but few are chosen. We do nothing for our salvation. It is a gift. Romans Ch. 6.
I do not believe that Bush is a liar. We had 17 UN resolutions and Iraq broke them all. We are still technically at war with N. Korea.
If I recall correctly, your god is a female and love only [no judgment] (Unity, New Age, WICCA, etc.) Am I correct?
COMMENT #110 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/16/2005 @ 1:09 pm PT...
#93
Which encyclopedia there Paul? Have never seen anything about the formation of the constitution as basis from the ten commandments. I have seen information on it coming from the age of reason, roman laws, english law, and many other philosophical contributions.
COMMENT #111 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/16/2005 @ 1:12 pm PT...
World Book Encyclopedia 1970.
10 commandments, Biblical, Jewish, and Roman law.
I will look it up tonight.
COMMENT #112 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 8/16/2005 @ 1:18 pm PT...
Paul
You sure ain't in the Beatles. So YOU don't think bush is a cheat and a liar??? YOU fcking dumbass. Get your gun and go fight for freedom over in Iraq asshole and while your at it go read comment #64 fckface. I suppose reversing over 400 environmental laws and standards, using the patriot act against Americans after causing 911, and using a right wing Congress to pass laws always in favor of the corporate big business over the rights of the common American are only Bushit admininstration policy? Why don't U go to Iraq and tell the families of the 100,000 civilians that have been killed that although no weapons of mass destruction and ties to alqueda have been found, you are bringing them freedom. Better oil your BEARings acehole.
COMMENT #113 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 8/16/2005 @ 1:31 pm PT...
COMMENT #114 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 8/16/2005 @ 1:39 pm PT...
sorry, my last li'l post was meant as a reaction to 109, not you guys. tho' I'm pretty sure y'all could figure that out.
it's all such utter nonsense, why feed it?
COMMENT #115 [Permalink]
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Neo
said on 8/16/2005 @ 1:41 pm PT...
#111
Wow an encyclopedia from 1970 that's real accurate. So now you're saying only an encyclopedia from 1970 would be a good encyclopedia.
As for the UN Resolutions I have already directed you to a BBC report regarding this. The UN resolutions did not give George W. Bush the authority to invade Iraq. Bush gave Saddam an ultimatem to allow the inspectors in and when Saddam did and bush couldn't find anything he decided to invade the country. Saddam complied and was invaded anyway. Using the resolutions was just a last ditch effort to justify Bush's want for invasion. They claimed there were weapons even though there were not and even Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice knew this back in 2001. He gave intelligence to only 8 members of congress and allowed the intelligence that went with his agenda to get through while the rest was tossed aside. Now you may not think he lied but then again you probably also thought Nixon was a great man. The sanctions were working Paul and it has been proven.
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/16/2005 @ 2:44 pm PT...
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Tom Smith
said on 8/16/2005 @ 3:39 pm PT...
I'll bet Paul believes in Santa Claus.
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bluebear 2
said on 8/16/2005 @ 3:58 pm PT...
Holy cow, Is this a feeding frenzy or what?
Lest we forget, paul also can quote the Sienfeld Show:
"It's only a lie if you believe it is a lie" - George Castanza
https://bradblog.com/archives/00001673.htm#22
Therefore it follows that a lie is the truth if you believe it's the truth.
Explains a lot.
Kira - I see you got a clear and concise answer to your question at #106.
ROTFLMAO
COMMENT #119 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 8/16/2005 @ 4:04 pm PT...
From CNN - More prisoner abuse hidden.
Videotapes withheld in post 9/11 inquiry
Tuesday, August 16, 2005; Posted: 12:59 p.m. EDT (16:59 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) --- The Justice Department's inspector general said a federal prison center in Brooklyn, New York, failed to turn over hundreds of videotapes to investigators probing the treatment of detainees taken into custody after the September 11 attacks.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/...videotapes.ap/index.html
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big dan
said on 8/16/2005 @ 4:29 pm PT...
Here's the guaranteed hypocrisy of anti-abortionists: They don't adopt all the needy abandoned children, and they claim they're pro-life, but are for a war where 100,000 Iraqi civilians have been murdered, and thousands of of our troops are dead and/or disabled.
They NEVER NEVER mention adopting abandoned children (and in fact they don't, they're hypocrites), and never are challenged to reconcile their supposed "pro-life" stance with all the deaths in Iraq.
That's why I say, "Feed the Trolls". Because on conservative blogs, they get to say these things unchallenged, but on blogs like this, we ask them to reconcile their illogical statements, and then everyone can see what hypocrites they are.
Try to find an anti-abortionist, who has adopted abaondoned children and is against the Iraq War because of all the hundreds of thousands of murders on innocent life. You won't find one, because they're all HYPOCRITES. And they won't answer questions, challenging their inconsitencies, they just don't answer them, or they disappear from the blog.
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bluebear 2
said on 8/16/2005 @ 4:45 pm PT...
"New York, August 16, 2005 – The General Secretary of the National Council of Churches is urging President Bush to join with Gold Star families and religious leaders in an interfaith prayer service outside the Bush ranch at noon (CDT) Friday"
So, ya think he'll show?
More: http://michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=3717
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Peggy
said on 8/16/2005 @ 6:36 pm PT...
Hi, Bluear 2 #121 - No, he's a coward, a chickenhawk, he is afraid of the truth, he is afraid of Cindy because she isn't buying his lies, she knows what he is and he can't face her, so he won't. On top of that, he's an inept goofball, and everything he says and does will be taped and played in the MSM. He will look and sound like a lying fool, so the neo-cons won't let him leave the ranch unless they can control the script. They don't want even more Americans to start rebelling against their corrupt regime and start travelling to Crawford. Won't they be upset when, after Bush's five weeks of vacation, CAMP CASEY GOES TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!
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Peggy
said on 8/16/2005 @ 6:59 pm PT...
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Peg C
said on 8/16/2005 @ 7:14 pm PT...
Thanks for that link, Peggy. I KNEW there was something fishy about that woman; that's why I turned her off.
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 8/16/2005 @ 9:29 pm PT...
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BLUEBEAR2
said on 8/17/2005 @ 9:47 am PT...
At Raw Story
"Dems to file request for immediate investigation of former US Attorney General
Larisa Alexandrovna
Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) and Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) will be issuing a formal request for an immediate investigation with the US Inspector General's office into John Ashcroft - former US Attorney General, Raw Story has learned. "
MORE:
And more begins to crumble.
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/17/2005 @ 11:08 am PT...
aha, Bluebear2, you've beaten me to the punch again!
COMMENT #128 [Permalink]
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BLUEBEAR2
said on 8/17/2005 @ 12:52 pm PT...
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big dan
said on 8/17/2005 @ 1:57 pm PT...
Comment 123 Peggy:
Great link! It looks like Bush's propoganda machine setup Cindy Sheehan by having this fake Iraqi woman, May Hassan Lamotte, "thank her" for her son dying for her, and then go on Chris Matthews "Hardball" and smear her. May Hassan Lamotte's husband is a member of an American propoganda arm of the government, Voice of America (VOA), and it's illegal for them to operate in America. Looks like the bloggers are all over this one!
Cindy Sheehan should out this woman on national TV, it would DEVASTATE the Bush administration, who again, is using the government for propoganda.
Was MSNBC complicent? Or just stupid? Both are bad.
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Valley Girl
said on 8/17/2005 @ 6:00 pm PT...
I recently discovered this guy, Timothy Karr, who blogs "MediaCitizen". He has a lot to say that many of us care about. home page
One of his columns talks about Bush's illegal propaganda machine. A Taxpayer Slush Fund
snippet-----
The Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 (22 U.S.C. ' 1461), forbids the domestic dissemination of U.S. government authored or developed propaganda or "official news" deliberately designed to influence public opinion or policy. The law singles out materials that serve "a solely partisan purpose." In the past, the GAO has found that administration agencies violated this and other federal restrictions when they disseminated editorials and newspaper articles written by the government or its contractors without disclosing the conflict of interest.
----read article for more on Bush propaganda machine-----
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Paul
said on 8/17/2005 @ 8:21 pm PT...
> Therefore it follows that a lie is the truth if you believe it's the truth.
The truth is the truth, whether you believe it or not.
"I did not have sex with the woman, Miss Lewinsky"
> Kira - I see you got a clear and concise answer to your question at #106.
ROTFLMAO
There are tons of other things individual Christians do - visit the sick, visit those in prison, spread the Gospel worldwide, take care of the poor, pray for our leaders, serve others, etc.
Notice that Kira never responded!
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Neo
said on 8/17/2005 @ 9:25 pm PT...
#131
Aww Paul are you still upset that a republican sucked off Clinton? Where was your indignation over George H. W. Bush screwing one of Reagan's secretaries?
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:30 am PT...
Brad! What the heck are you doing here? I hope you're ok.
BTW I agree with you about Paul. Or maybe that was obvious already.
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Kat
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:54 am PT...
I want to thank Topanga Peace Alliance for so kindly offering to help veterans who served in Iraq make the trip to Crawford. I had the opportunity to join them for a meeting in June while down in So. Califormia. Very nice people --- living in a very lovely town.
Please spread the word, if you know of a veteran who served in Iraq who may want to make the trip to Camp Casey, and could use some assistance
More information here!
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Neo
said on 8/18/2005 @ 5:48 am PT...
WP
Regarding Paul, I think this is a "jane you ignorant slut" moment.
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Dredd
said on 8/18/2005 @ 6:00 am PT...
BlueBear2 #126 Your post is messing up the BLOG. Please use the formatting tools provided by this blog to properly format long URLS.
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Dredd
said on 8/18/2005 @ 6:07 am PT...
Raw Story has an announcement about the Gov. of Ohio being charged with some misdemeanor crimes (link here).
I think the prosecutors are practicing up for a later rally
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/18/2005 @ 6:57 am PT...
re #126 and #137. I've fixed the comment in question. The "formatting tools" mentioned by Dredd do not work for everybody, but there are other ways to post "live links" rather than simply "URLs" ... perhaps we have somebody who knows where those instructions are ... if so will you please post a link so that BlueBear2 and others can learn ... I'd do so myself if I were not so pressed for time ... thanks everyone!
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Torqued
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:44 am PT...
I understand the HTML generator may not be working for all users or all browsers. I have a major computer hardware problem on my primary box so I'm unable to solve the problem right now. I hope to be back up very soon and will definately take care of the problem as soon as possible.
In the interim, following is an example html link (opens in a new window) as text:
The BRAD BLOG
Simply replace the https://bradblog.com
and The BRAD BLOG
text in the above example with your own URL and link text. Copy and paste the result into your BRAD BLOG comment and preview to test it.
Keep a copy of the above example handy and thanks for your help!
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Peggy
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:46 am PT...
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Paul
said on 8/18/2005 @ 8:00 am PT...
> You call Cindy Sheehan an "Anti-Jew" in Comment #98 (for a statement that has nothing to do with being Anti-Jewish in any way), then you have the audacity to write --- not once, but twice --- just two hours later in Comment #109 that "Jesus is the only way to heaven".
Cindy Sheehan made anti-Jew statements because one of the leftwing groups that is in Crawford is anti-Israel.
Jesus is the one who said He is the only way to Heaven, not me. I am just repeating what He said. He also said that Jews will realize He is the Messiah in the end times. These are things He said and I have just repeated them. That does not make me anti-Jew. It makes me pro-Israel since His kingdom on Earth will be the new Jerusalem.
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/18/2005 @ 8:15 am PT...
Poor Paul --- you're not even smart enough to know when you've been shredded, do you? What a miserable waste of human life. Sigh.
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Paul
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:03 am PT...
Winter Socialist - you're a waste of human life?
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Paul
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:16 am PT...
By the way, big mistake moving out of the Gaza Strip. Land for Peace is really land piece by piece by piece until none is left - which is the goal of Israel's enemy. That makes me Pro-Israel.
The Palestinian state is Jordan.
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Brad
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:20 pm PT...
Paul -
You call Cindy Sheehan an "Anti-Jew" in Comment #98 (for a statement that has nothing to do with being Anti-Jewish in any way), then you have the audacity to write --- not once, but twice --- just two hours later in Comment #109 that "Jesus is the only way to heaven".
You do this all on a blog run by someone that you know is actually Jewish.
I don't know if you can be considered a Christian or not, Paul. Your words and actions certainly don't seem to reflect it, but in theory you know more about Christianity than I.
I do know, however, hat you have once again proved that you are an unmitigated asshole.
(P.S. To those paying attention...yes, I'm out of the wilds earlier than planned...details to follow...)
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Kira
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:06 pm PT...
Paul #131: "Notice that Kira never responded!"
I haven't forgotten about you, Paul. I had an unusually busy couple of days and wasn't able to get back to you right away.
So, in answer to your comment #109:
First of all, you must be more careful to check your facts before making statements. You said: “If I recall correctly, your god is a female and love only [no judgment] (Unity, New Age, WICCA, etc.) Am I correct?” – I have NO idea who said that, but it certainly wasn’t me. Please find that quote you’ve attributed to me – I’d like to see it. I have studied Christianity and the Bible for over 40 years – now what, exactly, are you trying to say about me?
You ask if I am a Christian. Are you asking if I believe in the dogma preached by the false prophets such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson or Jim Bakker? Only someone who has never taken the time to research the illegal and immoral acts committed by these men would believe they are capable of teaching the true message of the Bible. Not only do they commit fraud, they use the Bible to support an anti-Christian message, and that makes them an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Matthew 7: 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
The Bible has made it clear to me that I have a duty to educate my brothers in the Spirit who have misunderstood the Truth of the Word and therefore err in the sight of the Lord.
2 Timothy 2: 15-24 says that we must STUDY to be approved by God and that we must “rightly divide the truth” which means to correctly understand or explain the truth. In order to do this, one must study history and study the Bible in its entirety.
Continue reading 2 Timothy 2: 16-24:
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker … 19..And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24 And the servant of the Lord must … be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient.
Do you see how your enjoyment of the bitter sarcasm (which isn’t sarcastic humor, just pure sarcasm) of your comment #93 is in direct contrast with the scripture above? Have you ever read the Beatitudes from the Sermon on the Mount? Are you ready to take those words, spoken by the Lord, to heart?
Let’s go to 2 Peter, Chapter 1: 5-9 Peter says to GIVE ALL diligence to add unto your faith: Virtue, Knowledge, Temperance, Patience, Godliness, Brotherly kindness and Charity. (Diligence is the opposite of negligence!) 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. In other words, the blind one’s old sins have been forgiven, yet he can’t resist his old, sinful ways and has rejected purity of heart in favor of his old sinful nature. The 3 Reverands I mentioned in my 2nd paragraph are like the blind one.
Paul, you say “God gives us the right to kill to defend ourselves.” Let’s put this into perspective. Iraq did not attack the U.S. George Bush is the aggressor.
Imagine for a moment, Paul, that you have a neighbor and you have decided that your neighbor is plotting to kill you. In fact, your neighbor is very busy with his own affairs and has not been entertaining thoughts of harming you. But, you are convinced that this neighbor is going to kill you, so finally one day, you decide you’re going to kill him before he comes over and kills you. You shoot him dead, and then you find out the truth. God has not given us the right to kill on the basis of our fear (or vain imaginings) that someone might harm us. This makes our war with Iraq illegal and immoral and unjustified.
Study John 4:18-21
· 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
· 19 We love Him, because He first loved us.
· 20 If a man say, "I love God," and hateth his brother, he is a liar. For he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
· 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loveth God love his brother also.
You talk about babies being killed in the womb. Did you know that almost 20% of the civilian (innocents) deaths in Iraq have been women and children? Have you seen the pictures of grieving fathers and mothers holding onto their children’s dead, bloody, mutilated bodies? Did you know these are the innocents Jesus refers to in Luke 17:1-2 where He clearly states: "It is impossible but that offences will come; but woe unto him through whom they come. It were better that he were hanged about the neck, and be cast into the sea than that he should offend one of these little ones?” Do you know that we Christians have a duty to speak out in anger about this abomination? Do you know that by supporting those who speak falsehoods you are guilty of the same? If you are too lazy to diligently search for the truth, then you must accept the dire consequences.
You would do well to read and study with all diligence Romans 12, to rightly divide the truth:
17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Remember Proverbs 6: 16-19 (The 7 attributes of a man that are an abomination to God)? We as Christians must keep these words from God in the forefront of our minds, always.
1. “A proud look [the spirit that makes one overestimate himself and underestimate others].
2. “A lying tongue,
3. “Hands that shed innocent blood,
4. “A heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and plans,
5. “Feet that are swift in running to evil,
6. “A false witness who breathes out lies [even under oath],
7. “And he who sows discord among his brethren.”
Study 1 Peter 1:13-16:
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance; But as He [Jesus] which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
In closing, Paul, I exhort you to use your time wisely to study. Make sure you study deeply to find the truth. Make sure what you believe is what the Word of God truly says and not just the vain babblings of men with profiteering agendas who are leading their sheep to slaughter.
COMMENT #147 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:21 pm PT...
Kira, I have some questions for you:
Are you pro-abortion?
(I could just stop right there)
What faith or denomination do you consider yourself to be a part of?
What church do you attend?
How do you feel about the women getting their heads chopped off under Saddam for adultery?
What did you think of Hitler killing 6 million Jews? Was America right in entering that war? Was America right in dropping the bombs on Japan?
Can anything good come out of a war?
Are you anti-war at all costs?
Can God use one nation as judgment on another nation?
Has God used war for the good?
Has God destroyed a nation so that another could live free?
Does the bible say in the end times that there will be war and rumors of war before Jesus returns?
I may have mixed you up with another person on this blog whose god is a female.
I am not going to "shoot" my neighbor unless he is shooting at me. So, a ridiculous comparison.
I have several issues with the TV evangelists that you brought up. They do not all speak for me. I am not a Pentecost and 2 out of 3 are.
COMMENT #148 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:54 pm PT...
> Luke 17:1-2 where He clearly states: "It is impossible but that offences will come; but woe unto him through whom they come. It were better that he were hanged about the neck, and be cast into the sea than that he should offend one of these little ones?”
This verse means temptation and woe to the one who temps. Little ones here means harming little children's souls. I does not mean physically killing innocent children in these verse. Christians are considered "children" of God - non-beleivers are not children of God. They are created by God, but only Christians are children of God. You know that because you have studied the Bible for 40 years.
COMMENT #149 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:02 pm PT...
Paul, you deal in disreality that's why everyone laughs at you and won't take you seriously.
The elections are full of fraud, the "end times" is the scam your fundie brothers rehearse all the time to make the world seem less terrible, there is no legitimacy to government whatsoever now and you are a pathetic apologist- A WALKING JOKE!
Just get it already, and stop making it be about the jews. The jews are not responsible for this hackneyed backwards alice in the looking glass. That would be the neocons, or zionists who make all the jewish, the whole world, look terrible.
Nobody is burning a candle for them, they're burning it for the dead and those who have had their votes stolen. THAT IS WHO ITS BURNING FOR, SON
Illegitimate voting, and the scheme
Doug E.
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Kira
said on 8/19/2005 @ 10:06 am PT...
Paul, you leave me scratching my head (figuratively.) What are you trying to achieve by asking your list of questions in comment #147? Do you ask these questions in order to help yourself on your path to becoming a better Christian, or do you have a hidden agenda?
Paul asks (my answers in bold) ---
Are you pro-abortion? To answer your question as stated --- no.
(I could just stop right there) That would probably have been just fine.
What faith or denomination do you consider yourself to be a part of? What church do you attend? Is this not a very personal question?
How do you feel about the women getting their heads chopped off under Saddam for adultery? The same way I feel about killing thousands of innocent Iraqis for bush's illegal and immoral war based on lies.
What did you think of Hitler killing 6 million Jews? Was America right in entering that war? Was America right in dropping the bombs on Japan? All war and killing is a prime example of Man's Inhumanity to Man. bush is close to equalling the sheer evil of Hitler. Was there another way to stop Hitler? Was there another way to deal with Japan? Was the 2nd attack on Nagasaki wrong?
Can anything good come out of a war? It is an ill wind that blows no good.
Are you anti-war at all costs? I firmly believe that if those who profess to be Christian practiced their faith according to the teachings of Jesus, their would either be NO war or very few wars ever fought.
Can God use one nation as judgment on another nation? Has God used war for the good? Has God destroyed a nation so that another could live free? Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, [that means don't you take revenge] but rather give place unto wrath [that means leave that to God]: for it is written, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay," saith the Lord. [Vengeance belongs only to God. Get it?]
Does the bible say in the end times that there will be war and rumors of war before Jesus returns? When has there not been war and rumors of war? How will you be able to tell the difference?
I may have mixed you up with another person on this blog whose god is a female. No, you ABSOLUTELY did. I asked you to provide a link to that comment. Where is it? [part 2] Paul, do you think God is spirt or human? Do you think God is earthly or heavenly? Do you think gender is spiritual or earthly?
I am not going to "shoot" my neighbor unless he is shooting at me. So, a ridiculous comparison. You missed the point of my analogy which describes the way bush took us into the war with Iraq.
I have several issues with the TV evangelists that you brought up. They do not all speak for me. I am not a Pentecost and 2 out of 3 are. Good!
In answer to Paul's comment #148
You are right that these verses aren't specifically about killing innocent children, however the message is the same. Look at the picture of the innocent Iraqi babe killed by bu$h's illegal, immoral war, then tell me, what would Jesus say?
Keep reading Luke 17. This is a powerful message about forgiveness.
COMMENT #151 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 8/19/2005 @ 11:23 am PT...
Thanks Kira! You did not answer any of my questions. The purpose was to see where you are coming from. I have an idea but would like for you to tell me. But, if it's "too personal" and not to be "shared" (as in Matthew 28:18-20), then there will be no answers from you.
I'll try to find out the person whose god is a female.
COMMENT #152 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 8/19/2005 @ 11:46 am PT...
Ok Paul. I see you are either too mentally challenged to understand your questions were answered, or you're just trying to pick a fight.
I shake the dust off my shoes now.
Bye.