READER COMMENTS ON
"The Greatest Story Ever Sold!"
(9 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 2/29/2004 @ 7:59 pm PT...
From your blind followers. Thanks for improving the script!
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 3/1/2004 @ 8:28 pm PT...
If you're capable of setting aside the fact that Jim Caviezel IS NOT Jesus, then you'll probably come away with the fact that THE PASSION isn't a good film.
It's historically inaccurate (Pilate was a cruel dictatorial governor who quelled dissent with the sword). It mixes Gospels (a huge catholic no-no) is brutally violent and has no dramatic arc whatsoever.
Yes Hollywood creates and praises violent films. But Roger Ebert doesn't appear in Church's all across the land guilting you into watching Kill Bill.
It was well shot...but every characterization, with the exception of Mary and Pilate (Pontious the merciful?), have any depth.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2004 @ 8:53 pm PT...
> It's historically inaccurate
You need to read the Bible first before you can make that statement.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2004 @ 9:05 pm PT...
The last thing you wanna do is get into a Biblical bake-off with me, buddy.
Are you telling me that that Caiphas was strong enough to dictate policy to his Roman overlord?
In The Passion, the Jews were eating Leavened bread. Is that accurate?
The Garden of Gethsemane was neither a garden nor in Gethsemane.
Its not worth discussing the bible with someone like you. Just because you have an (R) after your name doesn't make you a biblical authority and definitely not a historical one. But hey, who needs facts when you have truth, right?
Of course, the world is 6000 years old and man was made out of clay and woman a rib. I mean who needs science and history when I got the Bible.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2004 @ 6:16 pm PT...
Gethsemane was an olive garden on Mt. Olivet about half a mile from the temple. They were eating unleavened bread.
Here is one for you:
The Prophesies of The Christ
The Old Testament verses are the prophecy; the New Testament verses proclaim the fulfillment.
Born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:21-23)
A descendant of Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3; 22:18; Matthew 1:1; Galatians 3:16)
Of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10; Luke 3:23, 33; Hebrews 7:14)
Of the house of David (2 Samuel 7:12-16; Matthew 1:1)
Born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2, Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-7)
Taken to Egypt (Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:14-15)
Herod´s killing of the infants (Jeremiah 31:15; Matthew 2:16-18)
Anointed by the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11:2; Matthew 3:16-17)
Heralded by the messenger of the Lord (John the Baptist) (Isaiah 40:3-5; Malachi 3:1; Matthew 3:1-3)
Would perform miracles (Isaiah 35:5-6; Matthew 9:35)
Would preach good news (Isaiah 61:1; Luke 4:14-21)
Would minister in Galilee (Isaiah 9:1; Matthew 4:12-16)
Would cleanse the Temple (Malachi 3:1; Matthew 21:12-13)
Would first present Himself as King 173,880 days from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25; Matthew 21:4-11)
Would enter Jerusalem as a king on a donkey (Zechariah 9:9; Matthew 21:4-9)
Would be rejected by Jews (Psalm 118:22; I Peter 2:7)
Die a humiliating death (Psalm 22; Isaiah 53) involving:
- rejection (Isaiah 53:3; John 1:10-11; 7:5,48)
- betrayal by a friend (Psalm 41:9; Luke 22:3-4; John 13:18)
- sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12; Matthew 26:14-15)
- silence before His accusers (Isaiah 53:7; Matthew 27:12-14)
- being mocked (Psalm 22: 7-8; Matthew 27:31)
- beaten (Isaiah 52:14; Matthew 27:26)
- spit upon (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 27:30)
- piercing His hands and feet (Psalm 22:16; Matthew 27:31)
- being crucified with thieves (Isaiah 53:12; Matthew 27:38)
- praying for His persecutors (Isaiah 53:12; Luke 23:34)
- piercing His side (Zechariah 12:10; John 19:34)
- given gall and vinegar to drink (Psalm 69:21, Matthew 27:34, Luke 23:36)
- no broken bones (Psalm 34:20; John 19:32-36)
- buried in a rich mans tomb (Isaiah 53:9; Matthew 27:57-60)
- casting lots for His garments (Psalm 22:18; John 19:23-24)
Would rise from the dead!! (Psalm 16:10; Mark 16:6; Acts 2:31)
Ascend into Heaven (Psalm 68:18; Acts 1:9)
Would sit down at the right hand of God (Psalm 110:1; Hebrews 1:3)
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2004 @ 6:44 pm PT...
> who needs science and history when I got the Bible
Christians gave us science because they believed in the creator and natural law. Christians also believed in education so that the bible could be read, therefore, 123 of the first 126 schools in America were Christian schools - Yale, Harvard, Princeton, etc. All of that has changed now.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 3/5/2004 @ 8:17 pm PT...
"Christians gave us science because they believed in the creator and natural law"
Are these the same Christians that said that God put dinosaur bones to test our faith?
"Christians also believed in education so that the bible could be read"
Huh? Block print was developed by the Chinese hundreds of years prior to Gutenberg.
Pylemy and Pythagorous beat Jesus to the punch in the field of Astronomy. The Science inventing Christians had no use for the discoveries of Copernicus, Kepler, and Galileo.
Oh, and the field of medicine wasn't discovered by Christians until thousands of years after the Greeks, Muslims, Indians, Chinese, and Ancient Egyptians.
Loved your laundry list of bible passages...is that from the 1st Christian Bible...the 1st Western Christian Bible, The Vulgate Bible? Does that include Mark 16 which wasnt in any bible until 450 bc? Im sure these quotes you bring up came up after the Council of Chalcedon, 4th ecumenical when the early catholic church decided that Jesus was man AND God.
Maybe you believe Nestorius' version of the bible that believed Mary was 'not' the mother of God.
Maybe you just decided to ignore any and all books that some pope decided not to be in their version of the bible.
Maybe you believe in the accuracy of the telephone game, because thats the way the stories of Christ were passed down for 50 years before someone decided to write them down.
Or maybe you just discovered biblegateway and finding passages is a whole lot easier than wrapping your pea sized brain around the fact that the history of Christianity is a lot more complicated and politically charged than your minister would have you believe.
Oh and there are still Christian Schools...like George Bush's favorite Bob Jones University. You know Bob Jones U. Thats the one that frowns on white women having little ni--er babies. Love that Christian education.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 3/16/2004 @ 3:40 pm PT...
> It's a movie. For Christians.
For all of mankind
> like George Bush's favorite Bob Jones University
Bob Jones University and people like Pat Robertson do not speak for all Christians.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 3/16/2004 @ 3:54 pm PT...
Thank God, neither do you! (Phew...)