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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 2:23 pm PT...
Anyone know if they will re-broadcast the premeir and if so when.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 3:22 pm PT...
Just go to billmaher.com or google "Real Time with Bill Maher" & you can find the schedule. It's repeated throughout the week.
I already whined about this show on another thread, about Maher's interview with Phyllis Schlafly. No great loss you left that out; she was spewing the usual crap that makes me crazy...something about boy scouts & the pledge of allegiance, among other things. She obviously has her finger on the pulse of America's big issues!
When Bill & Paul Hackett were debating the stupid-vs-ignorant question in regard to bush, Maher said something like "Well, he got elected twice...that's not easy to do", meaning: he's not stupid.
Would someone please send Bill the memo about election fraud??
He's a smart guy & I like the show, but really...does he HAVE a research staff?
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 3:36 pm PT...
Thank you for this video clip --- I have no television, so had a good laugh watching this! So glad Hackett was clear on his position on Iraq. Previously, I had the impression that he was wishy washy --- no more!
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 3:59 pm PT...
I adore Chris Rock, it would have been great to hear more from him. He had me cracking up!
It's a shame he didn't keep Paul Hackett for the entire show, and leave out the two parrots. They were boring and weak, and didn't provide him with enough 'material'.
Note to right wingers
Please keep people like Phyllis and Zell off TV. Please.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 6:13 pm PT...
I agree about Hackett. I didn't know much about him, still don't, but I was impressed with him. He wasn't evasive & he has a sense of humor.
Although, I was impressed with Kerry, too, after I saw the Dick Cavett thing. So, y'know, we'll see about Hackett I guess.
Nana, yeah, it would have been a great show with just Hackett & Chris Rock. I know, I know...gotta try for "fair & balanced"...but listening to Asa Hutchinson & KelleyAnn Whats-her-name & Phyllis Schlafly...Christ on a bike.
Arry...if you're there...I meant to reply to you on another thread & got distracted...when you said recently "Kerry is a good man"....
I wanted to ask you why you think so. From your comments I think you're a reasonable guy, so it mystifies me why you still have any faith in him!
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 6:47 pm PT...
The real question is: why don't you like Kerry? He is an honest, progressive, patriot? Are you believing the Karl Rove spin?
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 7:11 pm PT...
You'll never see Hackett in office in Ohio, as long as they have electronic voting machines & optical scanners, and the GOP controls the voting in Ohio. Sorry...but true...
If you think the 51%-49% Schmidt victory was legit, then you are forced to the logical conclusion that the people in Ohio voted for a GOP candidate why lied about knowing "coingate" Noe, over an Iraq War veteran. Do you honestly believe that? You MUST believe that, if you think the vote was legit, with bottom-of-the-9th crash of machines and mysterious flurry of thousands of Schmidt votes when the machines came up.
They're reason the machines went down? "The ballots were sticking together because of humidity"!!!!!
Don't you know? They don't have AIR CONDITIONING in Ohio!!!!!!! And don't you know??? The ballots only stuck together at the very end of the counting!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 7:17 pm PT...
They should start having "color commentary" for Ohio vote counting, like in sports. It would go something like this:
"And, it's neck-and-neck with 99% of the precincts counted.....and......WHOAAAA NELLY!!!!! THE MACHINES WENT DOWN!"
Then they turn to Jimmy the Greek: "What's your prediction after the machines come up, Greek?"
The Greek: "I predict a flurry of votes for the GOP candidate, and a 51%-49% victory"
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 8/20/2005 @ 9:28 pm PT...
I gave my heart & soul to the Kerry campaign. Call it a gut feeling --- I'm not sure Kerry wanted to win the election.
He missed opportunities, one after the other, in all 3 debates where he could have hung duhbya out to dry, but he didn't take them. He won the debates, easily, but, why did he ignore the opportunities bu$h handed him on a silver platter to nail that sucka to the wall? I was flabbergasted, actually.
Not only during the debates did Kerry miss opportunities to expose bu$h, but it was a recurring theme throughout the entire campaign.
Why did Kerry concede before the night was through on Nov. 2, 2004? There still were votes that should have been counted and questions about serious "irregularities" that should have been answered. (Warren Co. OH is a prime example - oh, but Kerry's lawyer was there and he said nothing was amiss. Do I really believe nothing was amiss? No. Was Kerry's lawyer able to watch everything? No. He was in and out, as I remember.)
With the 2000 fiasco burned into our hearts and minds, we were behind Kerry 100%, screaming "Go For It! Count all the votes!" But he capitulated too soon. It happened again. Did he let it happen?
If Kerry had only stood firm --- we would have flooded the streets in DC and demanded real investigations into the massive fraud that occurred. Even so, we managed to have some strong protests, but our candidate was MIA and the investigations wilted without his voice. What was that all about?
What would make me trust Kerry? Maybe if he had the grit & fire & open honesty of Paul Hackett I would be rallying behind him now. I've honestly given up on him. How do I know he's working behind the scenes to expose the criminals? What if he's really in with the NeoCons? What is the truth about Kerry? How can I know? I don't have a direct line ... do you?
Don't get me wrong --- as I said --- I believed in him with all my heart and soul ... I did. But, there's too much that just doesn't make sense and the Democratic party has been gutless and somewhat complicit.
Too many Dem Representatives are actually Republican. Too many "bipartisan" boards & committees aren't really bipartisan because the officials holding the Dem seats are really Republicans. How do we know who to trust --- unless they are like Paul Hackett? Look at the base he gathered by telling it like it is.
If our representatives don't speak out about this creeping 1930-esque theo-fascist/corporate/imperialist regime and take some strong action soon, our ability to take action will soon be gone. But, I guess, "It Can't Happen Here."
Or can it?
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 6:02 am PT...
Kira, you are so right! I too, backed Kerry at numerous rallies, phone banks - well over 100 hours a month and it was very disappointing when he conceeded the election. That to me was the prime time to open up election fraud - not sour grapes. I have always hoped he is working behind the scenes on election fraud, but... who knows! Teresa has come out a few times on election fraud, so maybe. I know I am a broken record, but election fraud is the biggest issue of this time.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 6:02 am PT...
right on Kira, Big Dan!!!!
Sad, but true
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 6:07 am PT...
Mugzi, I agree! It's been said before, and I'll say it again, democrats will always lose 49 to 51% where it's "close" unless it's stopped.
And after the election, I got a letter from John Kerry saying that he was going to work to get every child in America health insurance. Whatever happened to that?
P.S. Any news on the September terror alerts??
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 8:07 am PT...
To answer your question: HELL NO!!!" Just read my posts....(sorry, Arry, thought it was you, I guess it was TruthSeeker)
I agree 100% with Kira & the rest posting here...I DID have faith in Kerry, worked like the rest of us to get him elected. I was LIVID when he conceded & LIVID AGAIN when he did not speak out in support of Boxer on January 6th. No excuse that he was out of town. I see NO reason to go on blindly trusting him now. If I'm proven wrong, I say again, I'll be thrilled.
The same goes for Hillary (violence in video games? Please!), Obama (who seemed like a new, shining star & quickly became a slick milquetoast, seems to me), Biden (I loved him during the Clarence Thomas hearings..what the hell happened?) and so many others in the Senate.
As I just posted on another thread, go here...
...and let's get busy doing things ourselves, because as far as I can see, Congress & the MSM are doing SHIT for us.
Happy Civil Disobedience, folks!!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 10:31 am PT...
Kira - couldn't agree more, my heart, my checkbook, my time. But Kerry's heart wasn't it, why the DNC gave him the nomination instead of Dean...go figure. The media said a scream from Dean killed his chances? Give me a break. We needed some enthusiasm.
Truly makes you wonder if the DNC wasn't working for Bush.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 11:04 am PT...
OMG - I completely forgot to add to my comment #9 that:
EVEN though Kerry tiptoed through the campaign being careful not to nail bush's ass to the wall --- so many people rallied behind him to get the squatter out of the White House that Kerry won the vote after all.
Only a nincompoop or a person blinded by rightwing disinfo propaganda (translation: blatant lies and real conspiracy theories) can believe bush actually won either presidential election.
Therefore - look at the "political capital" Kerry had to spend in order to lasso the crooks before they sat down and divided up their stolen goods.
Robert Lockwood Mills said it so well on another thread when he compared the stolen elections to a bank robbery. He suggests we look at how we deal with robbery in this country and then look at how we've dealt with the stealing of elections. We would NEVER say (to bank robbers) "oh well .. tsk, tsk. Just don't let it happen again (wink..wink..nudge..nudge.)
Think about what dubbie-yahhhh did with the budget surplus, a gift from Clinton when he left office. With bush's doo-doo economics (all one needs do is study duhbya's business history --- he ran every single one he ever owned straight into the ground --- all "are-busto!")
What's all this about moving on and looking forward to the next election? What ELECTION? All we can look forward to is another s*Election.
Forgive me for ranting.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 11:17 am PT...
One more thing (a visual aid.)
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 11:34 am PT...
Oh gad, my hair is on fire again. Bushw@cker, where did you put that fire extinguisher?
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 11:39 am PT...
Uh-oh --- looks like someone didn't like my linking to their graphic. I don't see it anymore.
Here's a direct link for the graph of #16
Bush Deficit Graphic
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 1:15 pm PT...
I am hoping for a new generation of decent politicians like Hackett who went to Iraq, saw the truth and have returned to unseat the Chickenhawks who parrot every GOP talking point and would follow the President over a cliff if he went there. The next step in my "trying to be upbeat" scenario is that these dems win back at least one house of congress in 2006 so we can get the public aware of the massive election fraud now a part of so many elections. The current GOP leaders in congress know they have nothing to gain by drawing attention to this issue and the minority dems cannot get a hearing on anything it seems. So, when we remove the crooked republican voting machine companies who have stolen part of our democracy and the partisan state level operatives who got them their contracts, we might have a chance at a reasonable replacement for George Bush in 2008. Such a person would return some semblence of actual critical thinking and problem solving on such issues as our short-sighted energy policy, the upcoming oil peak crisis and how that is going to change society and how it can create a more sustainable future. And of course a better foreign policy, no more invasions for oil. Any reason for hope? Feedback? Throw darts....call me Polyanna.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 1:24 pm PT...
PS: I guess an obvious problem to overcome is we need to eliminate election fraud BEFORE we get these folks elected....
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 2:26 pm PT...
It's such a catch-22. How do we eliminate election fraud when phoney groups like the ACVR has stepped into a world of (Bizarro) prestige and power without someone in power above them to laugh them out?
As Brad likes to remind us --- keep making noise. We must be like a stirred up nest of hornets.
Or maybe the death will come by a thousand cuts.
Each individual activist and each activist faction makes its own cut. Each Lie exposed makes another cut. Each inhumanity and each law passed allowing destruction to our environment, the outing of intelligence officers, the firing of 4-star generals, the passage of the patriot act --- each one draws forth a sharpened knife and makes its own cut.
As the blood drains out of the beast, its power begins to ebb and then it falls trembling to the ground where its death is assured. But only if we work to keep the wounds open and raw and bleeding freely.
(Many thanks to the commenter Pacific Alien from BBV who helped me formulate this mental image of "the death by a thousand cuts.")
"We must complain. Yes, plain, blunt complaint, ceaseless agitation, unfailing exposure of dishonesty and wrong - this is the ancient, unerring way to liberty and we must follow it." ~ W. E. B. Dubois
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 6:05 pm PT...
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 7:31 pm PT...
#22, Yes she does!
I've said this a coupla times recently, but I think it bears repeating...
Two good ways to "be the media"...easy to do, not expensive...are the Whispering Campaign....
and the Freeway Blogger route....
....which, by the way says:
"So Far We've Got...
1800+ Signposters in
315 Cities and
Since we here in the US of A are stuck with an illegitimate government & no media, it's up to us to try & spread the truth, innit?
Thank you to WP & friends & to the Freeway Blogger for pointing the way to these two excellent avenues of civil disobedience.
Soon as I put up some bigass signs to join with the others out there I'll post a picture or two.
The sign that greets you on the FB's opening page says:
WE REFUSE TO FIGHT IN A WAR STARTED BY MEN WHO REFUSED TO FIGHT IN A WAR
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 8/21/2005 @ 8:12 pm PT...
Hey - you guys ROCK too! I feel so blessed to be a part of the great community of Brad's! Thanks for all the diversity and support and excellent comments!
Thanks for the reminders, Joan. Soon we will replace those dummie reporters with real live citizens who speak the truth. They'll be EVERYWHERE!
Samizdat is here.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 8/22/2005 @ 9:56 am PT...
I have not done the big sign thing yet here in Portland, but I have devised some signs that I keep posted in the windows of the car, partly inspired by Freeway Blogger material. The two most recent simply: STILL BELIEVING BUSH? and NOT FOOLED BY BUSH I like the first one because it reaches out an invitation to the Bush stalwarts, I feel it points to the inevitable, that once you finally see that you have been lied to again and again you will come over to our side. The tipping point is coming....I hope.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 8/22/2005 @ 11:17 am PT...
Davek - what a GREAT idea ! Thanks