Guest Blogged by Winter Patriot
300 Arkansas National Guard troops landed in New Orleans — a city literally raped by water and disorder sown by the failure of U.S. relief forces to assist survivors — Thursday evening, with the authorization to shoot and kill what Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco described as “hoodlums.”
Yikes! Shoot-To-Kill! I ask you, What’s wrong with this picture?
“These troops are fresh back from Iraq, well trained, experienced, battle tested and under my orders to restore order in the streets,” Blanco said.
“They have M-16s and they are locked and loaded.
“These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will,” Blanco added.
Wow! She expects they will!! What a casual endorsement of wanton slaughter! What a “Repugnatron” thing to say!! OMG! OH EM GEE!! OMG!! … Oh hang on, friends … excuse me while I slam my head against the wall… [bam] … [bam] … [bam] … just … [bam] … three … [bam] … two … [bam] … just one more … [bam] … ahhhhh!… oh yeah! … aha … there, ok, … laaaaaaaaaaa! … ok … ok … ok, that’s better…
OK, OK, Whew!! Sorry for the delay, friends, but sometimes I just have to do that! What a thing: She says they’re locked and loaded and they know how to shoot and kill and she expects they will. Wow! Isn’t that the most wonderfully succinct little morsel of [I can’t say it!]?? She can’t say “we know they can but we hope they won’t have to?” So Sad. Even if you don’t believe it, show a little leadership… Come on, Kathleen!
And hey listen up: here’s another really good part: it turns out that Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco is a Democrat!
OOPS!!
Hey! Guess what? If we were really a blog of the Republican vs. Democrat variety, we wouldn’t report this story. Would we? NO, of course not. We’d bury it away if possible … and if not we’d certainly avoid asking inconvenient questions like:
Hey Kathleen! Do you think that’s really necessary?? Are things that far gone in Louisiana, Kathleen?? Kathleen?? Do you really need to send battle-hardened troops out to control the survivors? I know it’s getting bad and you are in big trouble but do you really have to do that? And maybe you do, but do you truly need to announce that you expect them to kill people?
and of course there’s the a whole ‘nother set of questions since Hey did you happen to notice where RAW STORY picked up this most wonderful news? Aha, yes, Agence France-Presse, was it not?? We’re getting our news about our own country from the French!! So …
Where’s The Media? Where in the H is the F dot media? if you’ll pardon my French! And why are we hearing about this through the French? What’s wrong with the American Press? Did they swallow too many lies? Or did they eat too many Freedom Fries???
I can already imagine tomorrow’s headline:
Which would be true, of course, because here at The BRAD BLOG we’re of a thoroughly different persuasion:
The BRAD BLOG: Loves Democracy, Hates Hypocrisy!
Wow pretty sad when people are just scared loved one dieing ,, no food no homes ,,and now they are called refugees not even americans to the press
Is this the start of what hilter did in the beginning of his regime ,,, sure sounds like it
Heck the food they need to use up in the stores they will go bad , the milk all so why not let them have the water ,, battterys etc ,,
11 patients died ,,on the roof toops of the hospitals for they were not rescused till a day later
Its sad but the de humanize people and call them refugees makes me sick ,,,and to shoot to kill , thats another Iraq all over again ,, My god our own soldiers turning on their own people ,,,,,,,,
The simple point being made EVERYWHERE except in the pro-violence lying american media is that the people need food, drinking water, blankets or dry clothes. Anything clean, dry and nourishing will do. ANYTHING!!! ANYTHING!!! ANY FUCKING THING!!!!
For chrissakes this is Friday morning Sept. 2, and they are ALL dying. They live in a toxic cesspool with nothing but an instinct to survive. Imagine living in a chemical outdoor toilet bowl for a week with nothing but death in every breath. Every man, woman and child equally desperate for sustainance and dying in each others arms. Imagine. I SAID IMAGINE!!!
We’ve had helicopters, boats, busses and trucks running inside the city of New Orleans since the storm passed on Monday. We’ve had a parade of talking head liars micro-managing the entire scripted catastrophy. We have photos, aerial video, harrowing accounts, grand plans and promises.
The city wasn’t flooded until Wednesday but what did we see in the way of help? NOTHING!!! Nothing contributing to stem the suffering of our people. Nothing nourishing, dry, potable or warm. Nothing but gun-toting Martial Law military maintaining the cesspool prison boundaries’ order. Are any of you keeping up? ARE ANY OF YOU MOTHER FUCKERS KEEPING UP?
ARE ANY OF YOU MOTHER FUCKERS WORTH THE PRICE OF THE BULLETS YOU ARE MURDERING OUR PEOPLE WITH?
Now then. Load the goddam pallets. Carry them, fly them, drive them, swim, walk, whatever it takes, into the city. Distribute the supplies wherever possible. Leave boats stacked high, trucks overloaded, a pallet on every accessible spot, roof or tree if you need to. Leave more than everyone could possibly eat and drink. But get it done now.
Get it done. American citizens and the entire world is watching you exterminate our people in your made for TV mega-drama holocaust.
USGS 073802330 (NWS) Lake Pontchartrain at Midlake on Causeway
USGS 0738023321 Industrial Canal at I-10 at New Orleans, LA
Lake Pontchartrain water levels source page
This data don’t support the levee breach lies. This disaster is gamed. This is the murder of my people. Prove it isn’t.
Holy Shit. You people are seriously this is a Bush conspiracy. You do realize you are completely crazy I hope.
This is why no one votes for you lunatics. Bush caused 9-11. Bush caused Katrina. Bush caused Global warming.
Just so you guys know, theres a story about how Bush caused the earth to spin around the sun coming out soon. Prove this isnt the case.
You could say that they held back for a couple of days
figuring a lot would die, so there wouldn’t have so many to take care of, from citizen, to refugee, to rioters,
to shoot to kill?
Remember Herr Rumsfeld said as Bagdad was being looted that "Freedom is untidy, people that are free are
like that"
Oops, forgot looter
This week the United States of America became a third world country, albeit the most prosperous third world nation, but one none the less.
(taking a moment to put on aluminum foil hat)
Went to bed last night, after watching Ted Koppel beat up on FEMA director thinking, "this is genocide". I have yet to hear a reasonable excuse as to why 4-5 days later very little of our massive ability as a nation to organize, provide and aid has made it to the people who need it the most. The poor, mostly African American disenfranchised people of New Orleans.
Viewed Harry Conick Jr. on "Today" this morning. He was down to his home city to help out yesterday, but this morning was too hoarse to even speak, probably from screaming at local authorities.
Conick stated that he could load up his car with water and drive it to the convention center within 1 hour, but was told that the situation was "too dangerous". He also reported that rescue crews told him they could not respond to needs in other parishes, because it was out of their juristictions.
This was Conick’s city, he loves it with all his heart – he has no agenda other than human compassion that I am aware of. He has no reason that I could imagine to make this stuff up.
Heard the Mayor of NO on NPR this morning yelling and swearing on a radio interview his frustration at state and Federal authorities – "these people have no (bleeped out) clue what’s going on down here (my paraphrase). "I am pissed!"
Mr. Mayor, I am pissed too. I am ashamed. I am a citizen of a third world country. The reporters seem to have no trouble getting around the area – they seem fed, showered, rested.
This feels like an experiment in martial law.
This still, this morning, smells of purposeful neglect to me…..
The American people appear to be the only ones moved to help – our government is studying this situation very carefully, while people are dying.
I didn’t want to talk about my hat
I’m too embarassed
All I could afford was tin foil
You know Scott, when my hat went on is when Bush said at his speech with a smirk, "Send Cash", when he really wants money, he says "Send Money" "Cash" means go light on the donation to me (hat off) now
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This is a blog from down town NO It is an eye opener.
I can tell you from personal experience you can NOT hear small arms fire when in a flying helicopter you only know it when you are hit or you actually see the shooter. All reports say no chopper has been hit and no reports of eyeball contact with a shooter. I read on another blog that was monitoring air traffic control there was no radio report of incoming small arms fire. I did not bookmark the blog, I am searching my history now.
Just think if all of these poor people die all of the property they own will be on the market for peanuts. Lots of these people own property that has been in the family for generations. Selling this property would have been silly for them because they could not buy another place to live with the proceeds. With the whole family wiped out it will go at auction for taxes.
If you think this is presposterous you do not think like a neocon. You must think like your enemy to defeat him.
BarryG,
Why would I want to think like a neocon and harm my beautiful mind ? ain’t that what Old Lady Bush said ?
I cannot believe this. "Shoot to kill." It seems excessive. I know order needs to be restored… but this is horrifying.
I got an email from a friend in Baton Rouge. She said the city is flooded with refugees. There is total chaos and no help is arriving because everyone is focusing on the hardest hit areas first. There just aren’t enough resources available at this time. Very scary.
Prayers and donations and no new tax cuts. Everybody needs to sacrifice for these people.
"Bush caused Katrina."
Ricky, do you have to be such a moron? Seriously? Are you so f****** dense: Are your lips so pursed on Bush’s d*** that ‘He should have mobilized the National Guard on Sunday instead of Wednesday’ and ‘He shouldn’t have halted monies to levee construction’ becomes Bush caused Katrina?
Did your parents punch you as a kid when you criticized them? Are you so incapable of introspection, critical thinking, and accountability that you would defend this man to the death?
What does he have to do? Shoot your dog? Your dog must’ve deserved it. That homoloving, commie mutt.
Hey Winter Patriot,
I am an independant and a brad blog fan but I need to take the governors side on this. I am sick of these Fuckers ruining the city we are trying to restore. They shot a cop in the head, held up a friend of mine that stayed behind with AK-47’s, lit one of the malls on fire, shot a national guard troop, etc…
If any officer of the law is in any kind of danger then I HOPE THEY SHOOT AND KILL THESE FUCKERS. They do not have any rights, and you protecting their actions by going after the shoot to kill policy is not right. Shoot to kill is simply an order letting those in harms way know that by the power invested in them by the governor of louisiana, they have the right to shoot and kill these HOODLUMS.
Your wrong on this one.
Charlie
charles.dubord@ritz.edu
Hey Winter Patriot,
I am an independant and a brad blog fan but I need to take the governors side on this. I am sick of these Fuckers ruining the city we are trying to restore. They shot a cop in the head, held up a friend of mine that stayed behind with AK-47’s, lit one of the malls on fire, shot a national guard troop, etc…
If any officer of the law is in any kind of danger then I HOPE THEY SHOOT AND KILL THESE FUCKERS. They do not have any rights, and you protecting their actions by going after the shoot to kill policy is not right. Shoot to kill is simply an order letting those in harms way know that by the power invested in them by the governor of louisiana, they have the right to shoot and kill these HOODLUMS.
Your wrong on this one.
Charlie
charles.dubord@ritz.edu
Air America Radio has an interview with NO mayor Ray Nagin , speaking from the heart about what NO faces in this crisis. It will break your heart.
Spokesliar Scott McLellan just clumped all the people taking food and water from precious, prescious Walmarts in the zero tolerance policy.
If your child is dying of dehydration and you break into a grocery store…the law considers you one of those fuckers, Charlie.
Shoot em in the head? Is that it? Keep those blacks from my shit. Is that it? There is no doubt in my mind that there will be "a failure to communicate" and many black folk will take bullets in the back when some wide brimmed local cop thinks they were stealing Ipods when they were really stealing diapers.
One thing I’ve learned from living in the Bronx, Mississippi, and Los Angeles, is that cops when pressed don’t always show wonderful restraint in times of crisis.
CNN, no less, stated, have you ever been in one of those planes, the noise is so loud, you can’t hear anything.the one shot at. MSNBC said in their crawl before things got bad Only the military could shoot down a plane. I thought it was odd at the time. Anybody read DU? A person in healthcare was told to stay close to home because he would be needed in Sept.? Others had gotten the same message. Military doing training excercises in NO the day it happened.Are they always training when we have disasters..Something smells to high heaven. I think msm may be getting a bellyful. One of the WH journalists has family missing. FEMA trucks lined up outside the city, unable to go in. Why?
Sock it to ’em, WP!!! My God, this country has slammed the wall running and is in total crazed lunatic mode! WTH???
Law-abiding folks are dying in the streets for lack of food and water, bus drivers are refusing their supposedly "humanitarian" mission to extricate these folk because they "believe they might be in harm’s way," and the governor of a grievously wounded state THREATENS her "people" with military innihilation!
If public anger DOESN’T mount, we are a nation of doomed robots. And I am assuming, with dearth of evidence at this point, that we are not!!!
Maybe they’ll start shooting reporters, like in Iraq!
OOPS! It was an accident!!!
I’ve never been so disgusted. Where was the fleet of relief supplies that ought to have followed the storm to the stricken area? Are we out of cargo planes? Why aren’t the dry areas knee deep in water bottles and MREs? Buffoonery has its place but when people die it becomes criminal neglect. So, Republicans, how are all those political appointees at FEMA working out for you?
So you disagree with the LA Gov for her orders. It makes me unconfortable also.
I do not visit this site often, and I was wondering if you have also mentioned the Mississippi Gov. Barbour? Excuse me if you have.
He threatened to get medieval on looters before the storm, and while Katrina was still raking his state with her behind, he came on CNN, and reinterated it again.
CNN transcripts for the day ought to have what he said posted. They generally post transcripts for everything.
The point being, at least Blanco waited 2 1/2 days, as opposed to 1/2 day before the storm. Why not attack Onan the Barbourian also?
A_R_K re #22 I had missed the news about Barbour but you may be sure I would have been banging my head against the wall then too if I had known about it … even now it makes me want to go … [bam] … [bam] … [bam] … [bam] … [bam] … aaahhhhhhh! that’s better.
I’m sorry, but when I saw those people looting a Wal-Mart I just had to laugh my ass off! Good for them. Every Wal-Mart should get the same treatment.
I have been boycotting Wal-Mart for 6 years now. I will not buy even a piece of candy from them. They treat their workers like shit. They deserve to be treated with no regard or respect whatsoever.
Steal away! Steal all you can!
The N.O. cops allow folk there to take what is necessary for life and sanitation. Water, food, toilet paper, diapers, baby food.
It is not a crime for people to take those things.
It is a crime to take jewelry, and exotics like that.
There is a time for everything … turn turn turn …
It is a crime to neglect americans in need and instead bring "Shock and Awe" while killing thousands of civilians.
Remember the administration has been on a killing spree for years, and they are quite caloused and are quite capable of barbaric neglect.
The shoot to kill orders are acts of desperate people who think happiness is a warm gun. It was not good policy to announce it publicly at this time.
They always shoot to kill when in danger anyway and to take focus away from the tragedy taking place was ill advised.
#15 Charlie says I’m wrong about this one. He may be right, I don’t know … I still like my position but my mind is open and in any case, it’s ok that he disagrees with me, especially since he does so without calling me an idiot. Or worse. 😉
The LA governor didnt plan ahead….duh…this storm was coming
she waited to ask for help….excuse me 300 troups what the F ___ was she thinking?
This isn’t Bush’s fault there is an order to do things she bailed.
She didnt ask for help. She did this to her own people.
But Texans, will rescue and we’ll pay for it!
Where is everyone else?
OK, GA, TN, NM, AZ, CO, VA, SC, GA….c’mon jump on in and take your share of evacuees. Lets spread the debt out.
That is what happened….nobody wants to have to pay for this
:doze: Looters with weapons should be shot if they are shooting others. Looters should surender to any authority. Scavanging water and stealing organs are two diffferent things. How can people reading this site jusify stealing a piano. In this site someone say they had three days before the bad flooding. Why didn’t they walk out of town or go to higher ground then? When the criminals stole guns they intended to harm others. To the man who says you can’t hear gun shots in a helicopter. Wrong! You can hear the echos when fired at in a city. You can see they flash ( sparkles) if fired in rice paddy. I’m sure you can see it from the flooded city.
Al Sharton, Jesses Jackson & his son and a few others are doing their best to turn this into a racial issue. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharton are multi-millionaires. Did you hear of there taking their own kind into their own homes? Has Jesse Jackson promised a few million dollars to the relief. What have they done to help other then put the blame on whitey for their troubles. Jesse Jackson Jr, said Bush should stand on the debris any blame God.
Do those people believe in God? The worship snakes and VOO DOO..
Those thieves in New Orleans and other places in that area who are stealing property and those carring guns are talking other peoples property. You will have to pay the losses. How can you justify a black taking 15 pairs of shoes and guns?
A third world county??? They are third world people. They have always been different. Funny how they changed their language since the flood. You don’t hear the Cajon crap now.
Die hard Liberals and other Democrats only believe in their gun policy until it effects them.
Liberals and
I just heard several black people who lost nothing in the flood or storm such as Jackson, Sharpton and West blame Bush for the problems.
President Clinton and a Congrees with a Democrat majority decided not to pay for a stronger levy. The Republicans had nothing to do with it. Democrats in Congress decided how strong to have a rescue plan many years ago. CLinton balanced the buget on the backs of those in the South today. You knee jerk reactors should have been reading and paying attention to the facts long before now.
New Orleans in no better then any other city with a high crime rate. If anything the murders will be a lot less whne compared to pre-storm figues.
Hey maybe the black leaders are right… Let us stop now and allow them to niger-rig the South to suit themselves.
Mexico’s FOX was right about them. I wish I had some of those balck Sambo stamps which will be known as Al Sharton stamps to collectors.
Where was Jackson last week? He was supporting anti-American terror in Veneseuala. He was supporting Castro’s COmmunists.
You better pull you head out of your ass now or you will find those people like to cut off whitey’s head on TV too……..
Elliot Holt of WARD 6, an evacuee of New Orlean stated that he heard 50 rounds of gun fire when a helicopter flew over last night.
BY the way I happen to have ‘white’ relatives in the greater New Orlean area. One is one of the first EMT members when they started the program. I hope he doesn’t get shot by these gun carrying looters. He is saving lives as always.
I lived in Biloxi many years ago. I endured the suprize of that terrible hurricane in the 60’s.. We saved blacks. The Democrat in the white house did very little for anyone back then.
It burns my ass that you people have no idea of what the real world is all about and type your claptrap and asinine opinions. Just wait until a terrorist hits a few cities and creates disasterous conditions in your city or neighborhood. How long can you live without lights. Will you commit suicide when your computer goes down?
A quote by Revered Wallace of the Universal Life Church namely a Congregation of Friends suggests that perhaps God has a lot to do with the calamity in the Hurricane’s path.
Many people refer to New Orleans as a bowl.. It may just be called a toilet bowl,,, GOD FLUSHED IT! That is toilet water flooding that city.
It is written in many places that God has smited those people of lands he is displeasd with.
God wiped out the floating gambling barges. God destroyed a "Sin City of the Western Hemiphere".
God toppled the towers of "Babble" in New York.
Perhaps God is warning us all. Perhaps God is tell the Black Leaders of this country they need to correct their act. Perhaps God wants spiritual leaders to take care of their own not fight the nation that feeds them.
Perhaps God wanted the 10 Commandments to be on public display. Perhaps God is angry at the black people he saved who have now turned to sin, ambivolence, crime, hatred and obomination.
Perhaps this is a sign… But the Black leaders can’t read it and will encourge their people to ignore it.
You writters to this blog want to blame Washington and the Republicans. Let him without sin cast the first stone. The Liberals are anti-God in their actions. Prayer in public and in scholl. They object to teaching religion. The Liberals are anti-USA in their actions such as the flag and and the Patrietism of those that love own country. God said the Hebrews were his people. You turn against them. You object to a war against Islomic terror. Those are the Arabs that desire the death of all Jews and Christians.
Maybe there is a God and he is pissed. If there is no God why do you care about anyone else? IF you do beleive how can you support the anti-Christ?
If there is a God he is in control. If he has a plan then the destuction is part of it. Now what city is he looking at now? There is a volcano about to blow up in Washimgton. There are earthquacks building all over the world. If you haven’t been to Yellowstone and seen it tilting you need to go. The largest volcano in the world is heating up. Where are you going to go when the world is wiped out?
Holy Ass #28-30
You could not be more wrong. The White House in this year’s budget, against all sane council, dropped the Corp of Engineer budget by more than it has ever been dropped.
The sycophant majority in congress went along with it.
Face up and stop the false witness.
Bob Hellmann has a couple of books out;
1. False Holiness
2. Christianity and Racism
Dealing with man-made religion and religious standards
Is there a full moon??
ATTN. Winter Patriot: the email add given is currently a valid pointer to me, and I would like to message you, In Re: headbanging authorship-know any venues?, using other than a posted board method. Also, I have been censored twice now for confounding reasons by prissy software on this board anyway, and have been uable to locate any email or other references to you.
Inherent Racism in News Reports
The Sydney Morning Herald has no problem cutting through the portrayal of nihlism in New Orleans as just a black thing. They even used an AP pool photo disproving the theory. Why has our domestic press seemed so intent on making this only a black/white thing?
Goto to the URL of the article cited below, and view the photo used in the Sydney Morning Herald. Why wasn’t this one published in American Media Headlines?
Sydney Morning Herald, September 3, 2005
"Storm of anger as US fails its own"
by Mark Coultan
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Garry Jones, one of four Australians driven to safety by a Channel Seven crew after being stranded on the flooded streets of New Orleans, said: "We’re looters, like everybody else. You’ve got to go into the markets. You’ve got to take water. You’ve got to take food."
Joining relatives of other trapped Australians in criticising the Australian response to the disaster, Mr Jones told Seven: "We’ve rung the Australian consul 4000 times. They say they can’t get in here. We understand their position but, geez, Johnny Howard, where are you?"
In the New Orleans convention centre, refugees are living next to the dead, with no one in charge of increasingly angry crowds. CNN showed footage of an old woman who had died in a wheelchair at the centre. She was covered by a blanket. Another body, wrapped in a sheet, lay next to her.
"I don’t treat my dog like that," said 47-year-old Daniel Edwards, pointing at the woman in the wheelchair. "You can do everything for other countries but you can’t do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can’t get them down here."
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For those who don’t pay attention, Johnny Howard is the Bush Administration’s Foreign Minister to the Australian Government. Ok, I’m just kidding, but ask the Australian who posts here now and then, if he feels it to be a valid criticism.
There were major areas of the city, especially the 9th Wrad, the East, St Bernard Parish and Plaquemines Parish were all under water from day day one, due to the levees overflowing, and days before the levee ever breached!!!
What these areas had in common – poor people – black, white and Vietnamese.
Based upon waht I know and what I have been told, I am betting that 1000s were already dead before the breach in the levee occurred, which added to the devastation.
Many of the people that were trapped in the city were trapped from the outset. I saw where a top researcher from LSU said that he warned of this catastrophe a year ago – provided a CD and details during a meeting that included representatives from Congress, FEMA, the military etc. He added that he suggested that provisions be made to pre-satge tents, and supplies. He said that a female representative from FEMA very sarcastically told him that Americans do not live in tents!!! This is America?
Referencing all posts that say the US does not have weather control technology….I say perhaps a google search of Scalar Electromagnetics would help those with eyes/minds wide shut.
#8 Scott "this feels like an experiment in martial law". I totally concur. (I am waiting for Bush to parade out the ‘double meaning’ MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner again.)
A_R_K sorry about that … I’ve sent you e-mail but you [or anyone] can also send me e-mail here: wp112263 at hotmail dot com
I agree with 99% of whats being said on this site, however what the media is not telling you is how the gangs in new orleans had taken over the superdome and the convention center. How the people inside were in constant fear of these "hoodlems". I live in new orleans and rode out the storm in Jefferson parish at my folks house a few blocks from a large hotel on causway blv. Where some of the gang members also took over. When I say took over I mean with rifels, AK47’s, AR15’s, and scater guns made from looted homes. Did the media tell you that these all american "Hoodlums" went from room to room shooting and killing any one alive that was not part of there gang. Did they tell you that they broke in to Charity Hospital and raped 15 women nurses on duty saving lives. How about in the convention center where they raped a 3yr old baby and also raped and cut the throat of a 7yr old little girl, then stuffed her body in the large cooler with the rest of the people they had shot and killed.
I understand everyones frustration trust me I’m in the thick of it. What many people don’t understand is it was hard to help people when being shot at by automatic rifels. This in no way is an excuse for the slow response from the goverment and all other guilty parties. You must understand the people shooting these all american "Hoodlums" are not idiots, they can tell the difference between a loaf of bread and a shotgun. Do you think they plan to chew on the gun to sustain life! Out of all the natural disasters you know about when did toating a rifel and smashing through windows of a shoe store and looting it ever helped. I’m sorry for this terrible tradgedy and it has affected me deeply, but we have to open or eyes to what really was going on in our city.
P.S. These are true statements from very creditable sources. (Local law enforcement)
Thank You!