READER COMMENTS ON
"VIDEO - Republican Congressman Alleges 9/11 Cover-up by Pentagon"
(47 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 10/21/2005 @ 9:58 am PT...
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:00 am PT...
Thank you for posting this report.
My feelings for Rep. Weldon are very much mixed.
Ever since the neo cons started their downfall, he has been very critical of the administration on Bush's high mark: national security. While I applaud Rep. Weldon, I do take a lot of issue with him.
A quick search of Roll Call votes on December 19, 1998 showed that he voted in favor of impeaching President Clinton on 3 of the 4 counts.
That says it all, in my book.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:04 am PT...
"Ultimately, the buck stops with Rumsfeld." says Weldon....
What the Fuck??
I guess we should be somewhat pleased that the delusional fog has lifted even this much for ANY Repugnantcan....
Yet, I suspect this dipshit will be put in restraints, shipped to Gitmo and start taking the Kool-Aid via I.V......
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:33 am PT...
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:35 am PT...
The dogs are turning on their masters.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
Awoken Research Group
said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:43 am PT...
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:17 am PT...
Curt Weldon is a patriotic american, say whatever you want about him.
It wasn't just Rumsfeld who covered the entire thing up, but Michael Chertoff.
Google the search "Dancing Israelis(Likuds)" and your answers come pouring out.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:57 am PT...
We don't need no stinkin state department. We got the department of war (original name when created), and we got Cheney.
Sour grapes. That is all it is, sour grapes ...
The latest dude pushed out (a la O'Neill, Clarke, et. al), says:
"a former top administration official declares that a secret cabal led by the vice president has hijacked U.S. foreign policy, inveigled the president, condoned torture and crippled the ability of the government to respond to emergencies
Just a bunch of sour grapes, these x officials, and majority of the American people are?
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:10 pm PT...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:14 pm PT...
I'm still reading all this ... but here's a link to Curt Weldon's homepage and his Congressional Testimony
Point of interest: "As it stands now, the 9/11 story has not been fully examined and told. The families of the victims and the American people deserve answers and we must not stop until we get them."
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:27 pm PT...
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:30 pm PT...
Thanks for the link to Froomkin's article, Dredd. Although, I must disagree with anyone who says that someone led dubya astray. I firmly believe gw bush is only more than happy to go down that path of vice & corruption. It's evident in his past personal & business history. He should be held accountable along with all the others who have chosen the path of corruption over the path of integrity.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:39 pm PT...
Oops - GAO report out. We need More distractions
"Bush calls for immediate U.N. session on Syria"
(Put on your bullshitter sunglass before viewing)
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:47 pm PT...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:57 pm PT...
Awoken Research Group #6
Thanks for the interesting link.
A little more of the tangled web is revealed.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 1:10 pm PT...
Let's say there is a conspiracy, a coverup and evil-doers.
Is the conspiracy is real? Who is running the coverup? Who are the evil-doers.
Well, I'm not certain about Weldon. I don't know his past, but he is a Republican. So, I'll take what he says with a large grain of salt.
However, if you want to deflect attention away from the evil-doers then what better way than to have someone such as Weldon go freakin' crazy about the conspiracy and show the coverup. Only his version of what's being covered-up is that Atta was a pure fundamentalist Islamist and part of the Al Qaeda outfit. That implies he was entirely about Jihad. It fits in neatly with the 9/11 Commission's story.
But, the stories about Atta being a drinker with a non-Muslim girlfriend and possibly associating with Abramoff aboard a gambling ship would take the conspiracy story in an entirely different direction (from Weldon's story).
So, the coverup seems certain. The Repubs are getting around to acknowledging it. But, which is the REAL Truth?
Someone needs to follow the
Repub campaign financing + Abramoff --> Atta
link to see if that holds as much or more water as the
Weldon's Able Danger --> Atta, Rahman, Al Qaeda
Uncovering a coverup is one thing. Identifying the Truth is another.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 1:15 pm PT...
I agree with you, Mark H. While watching the vid and reading the other speeches I was trying to figure out just how this could be used by the Rovians to obfuscate and mislead. I don't trust any of them right now. It will take a lot of serious integrity shown by actions, before I trust a Republican who is currently holding power.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 1:28 pm PT...
Agreed MarkH......But Weldon's testimony seems to be turning against the Likuds....
He was originally a fervant hater of arabs and muslims, and now he is becoming a staunch defender.....perhaps Weldon really is seeing the light, even if no one wants to believe him........
This is about america's national security.....and that's all its ever been about in regards to Chertoff and the rest of them staging the attacks, the coverup on U.S. soil.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 1:33 pm PT...
Mark H --- Atta couldn't have been a serious fundamentalist Muslim considering the evidence which shows him living way outside that box. The fact that he was on Abramoff's gambling ships 4 times leading up to 9/11 is very, very important.
Abramoff, Scanlon and Kidan acquired those ships from Boulis using fraud, lies and deceit to (in essence) steal those ships --- and used their congressional contacts (note: Tom Delay) to seal the fraudulent deal. And then, we have the murder of Boulis, who had been complaining about Kidan's ongoing contacts with the mafia. !!! Was there more to the acquiring of those ships than just outright greed? They served as a meeting place for Atta --- were there other deals made out there on those ships?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 1:47 pm PT...
Kira & Mark H.
The points you raise are very interesting. There have been a number of false reports, as we all know, designed to mislead or malign anyone trying to find the truth. Hopefuly time will tell which are true and wich are false.
The big thing right now is that the MSM is starting to wake up. They are starting to feel used and are beginning to retaliate.
Even the local TV news is beginning to follow DeLay, Rove and Libby stories. They so far have been non-commital in regards to the implications of the reports, but at least they are talking.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:13 pm PT...
Additionally to my #19
The list of Republicans involved include Rep. Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio), Tony Rudy, a top DeLay aide and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) And of course there was the payment by Kidan to a member of the Gambino crime family.
After acquiring the ships, they were not kept up as a serious investment ... allowed to go into disrepair and finally to fail and go into bankruptcy. Was that because they fulfilled their 'purpose' ??? I just wonder.
Here's a comment made by Rob Tiller who is connected to the Seminole Tribe of Florida casino gaming business:
“Boulis was murdered in the exact same way as Don Aronow, Bush’s other partner,” he stated.
Bush’s other partner? The question hung in the air.
“Something is really going down bad here,” Tiller stated. “Don Aronow. Gus. Jim Shore…All tied in to Bush.” See: The Secret World of Jack Abramoff
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography --- by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin
Chapter -XX- The Phony War on Drugs
The Cigarette boat Fidelity was purchased by George Bush from a certain Don Aronow. Bush reportedly met Aronow at a boat show in 1974, and decided to buy one of the Cigarette boats Aronow manufactured. Aronow was one of the most celebrated and successful powerboat racers of the 1960's, and had then turned his hand to designing and building these boats. But according to at least one published account, there is compelling evidence to conclude that Aronow was a drug smuggler and suspected drug-money launderer linked to the Genovese Purple Gang of New York City within the more general framework of the Meyer Lansky organized crime syndicate. Aronow's role in marijuana smuggling was reportedly confirmed by Bill Norris, head of the Major Narcotics Unit at the Miami US Attorney's office and thus the top federal drug prosecution official in south Florida. [fn 4]
.... On January 4, 1984, George Bush rendezvoused with Don Aronow at Islamorada in the Florida Keys. Earlier in the day, Bush had delivered one of his "war on drugs" speeches at the Omni International Hotel in Miami. Bush and Brady then proceeded by motorcade to Islamorada, where Aronow was waiting with his catamaran. Accompanied by a flotilla of Secret Service and Customs agents in Cigarette boats that had been seized from drug smugglers, Bush, Brady, Aronow, and one of the latter's retainers, the catamaran proceeded through moderate swells to Miami, with White House photographers eternalizing the photo opportunity at every moment. Bush, who had donned designer racing goggles for the occasion, was allowed to take the wheel of the catamaran and seemed very thrilled and very happy. Nick Brady, sporting his own wrap-around shades, found the seas too rough for his taste.
After the trip was over, Bush personally typed the following letter to Don Aronow on his vice presidential staionery, which he sent accompanied by some photographs of Bush, Aronow, Brady and the others on board the catamaran:
January 14, 1984
Here are some pretty good shots which I hope will bring back some pretty good memories. I included one signed shot in your packet for [Aronow's pilot] Randy [Riggs]. Also am enclosing a set of picture [sic] for Willie not having his address or knowing how he spells Myers? Will you please give them to him and thank him for his part in our wonderful outing. He is quite a guy and I learned a lot from him on the way up to Miami from the Keys.
Again Don this day was one of the greatest of my life. I love boats, always have. But ever since knowing you that private side of my life has become ever more exciting and fulfilling. Incidentally, I didn't get to tell you but my reliable 28 footer Cigarette that is, still doing just fine...no trouble at all and the new last year engines.
All the best to you and all your exciting ventures. May all your boats bee [sic] number one and may the hosres [sic] be not far behind.
At the end of this message, before his signature, Bush wrote in by hand, "My typing stinks." [fn 7]
As a result of this outing, Bush is said to have used his influence to see to it that Aronow received a lucrative contract to build the Blue Thunder catamarans at $150,000 apiece for the US Customs Service. This contract was announced with great fanfare in Miami on February 4, 1985, and was celebrated a week later in a public ceremony in which Florida Senator Paula Hawkins and US Customs Commissioner William von Raab mugged for photographers together with Aronow. The government purchase was hyped as the first time that the Customs would receive boats especially designed and built to intercept drug runners on the high seas, a big step forward in the war on drugs.
This was the same George Bush who in March, 1988 had stated: "I will never bargain with drug dealers on US or foreign soil."
Also this WaPo article from 8/2005 --- Abramoff Indicted in Casino Boat Purchase
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:50 pm PT...
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:28 pm PT...
The "secret" "Able Danger" (a name clearly well-chosen for mass public consumption) nonsense is clearly yet another layer of government disinformation.
"Able Danger" is intended to bolster the very core of the big lie of 911 --- which is in bigger danger of unravelling than most 911 truthers recognize! --- by more-than-suggesting that 9/11 can still be blamed on "Mohammed Atta" and "suicidal Muslim hijackers" and, of course, "al CIAda".
Why is the military-industrial-intelligence-media complex doing this? And why now?
Because, every day, more and more people learn that the towers collapsed too rapidly for the collapses to have been gravitational collapses from above.
And if it wasn't gravitational collapses from above (it wasn't!), then we can't blame the collapses on airplanes.
And if we can't blame the collapses on airplanes (we can't!), then how can we blame 9/11 on "suicidal Muslim hijackers"???
Get the picture?
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:53 pm PT...
I'm on the same page with ya, Blimp Capt.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:20 pm PT...
don,t forget that weldons daughter took a $300,000 bribe from the russians for pr work.weldon belongs in jail
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:23 pm PT...
you morons they are not embarrassed. the fact that no planes from norad intercepted the planes are more embarrasing.able danger tracked atta because they were using him to enact 911. perfect crime. you have bin laden thinks he pulls it off, yet you do it yourselves. if you don't think the gov't would do this then read this article get it able danger enable danger.
the bigger the lie, the more believable-hitler
then read this.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:32 pm PT...
Chertoff's BROTHER actually wrote the disinformation piece in Popular Mechanics siding with the official story of 9-11 and dismissing any notion that the towers were brought down by controlled demolition. Yes, Chertoff is in on it. And so is Bush's brother Marvin, whose company was handling security at the WTC on 9-11.
Just how far is the official story going to unravel? And will ANY brave Democrat step forward to speak the truth? One will do!
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:56 pm PT...
Joe Black - who are you calling morons?
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
said on 10/21/2005 @ 8:20 pm PT...
Tom Hayden and the Progressive Democrats of America want your advice. Go HERE to give some to them:
I told them it's high time Dems grew a backbone and spoke the TRUTH to the American people about the stolen elections and 9-11.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
Awoken Research Group
said on 10/22/2005 @ 5:12 am PT...
Awoken Research Group #6
Thanks for the interesting link.
A little more of the tangled web is revealed.
It's nice to see somebody paying attention.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 10/22/2005 @ 12:07 pm PT...
I didn't realize it was Chertoff's brother who wrote that article.
This makes me very angry:
Chertoff delayed federal response, memo shows
[snip] WASHINGTON - The federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina was Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, not the former FEMA chief who was relieved of his duties and resigned earlier this week, federal documents reviewed by Knight Ridder show.
Even before the storm struck the Gulf Coast, Chertoff could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials. Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown had only limited authority to do so until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm.
As thousands of hurricane victims went without food, water and shelter in the days after Katrina's early morning Aug. 29 landfall, critics assailed Brown for being responsible for delays that might have cost hundreds of lives.
But Chertoff - not Brown - was in charge of managing the national response to a catastrophic disaster, according to the National Response Plan, the federal government's blueprint for how agencies will handle major natural disasters or terrorist incidents. An order issued by President Bush in 2003 also assigned that responsibility to the homeland security director.
But according to a memo obtained by Knight Ridder, Chertoff didn't shift that power to Brown until late afternoon or evening on Aug. 30, about 36 hours after Katrina hit Louisiana and Mississippi. That same memo suggests that Chertoff may have been confused about his lead role in disaster response and that of his department. [snip]
HEY!!! This guy is holding a very high and powerful position. He makes a HUGE salary. This guy ought to KNOW EXACTLY what his job entails. He should have FOUND OUT before Katrina made landfall. This thing about maybe being CONFUSED is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
said on 10/22/2005 @ 12:35 pm PT...
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
said on 10/22/2005 @ 2:15 pm PT...
do you think the rest of america will wake up after the next state sponsored terror attack? or will they buy what the media feeds them again? the media is who we have to focus on, because the politicians are unreachable. they have no interest in the truth about 9/11. it would make them ALL look bad. focus on the media, as corporate as they are, they are more workable than any politician.contact every media outlet,newspaper, websites about 9/11 truth as often as you can. make it a habit to fire off a few emials a day about 9/11 to the media.we have to get louder.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
said on 10/22/2005 @ 5:31 pm PT...
...jIM cIRILE and ALL, PDA of America are the "GOOD" Democrats WITH SPINE! And NOT the worthless DLC Democrats, who are nothing but corporate whores who are literally not only destroying Democratic Party but because they keep siding with Bush and other R's on stuff, they are literally helping to destroy America and world! Vote ONLY progressive D's or Greens,period! Or for 1 or 2 R's Like Ron Paul who seems to be somewhat OK!? On 9-11 issue, get a FREE DVD @ www.reopen911.org and help fund ad's to be aired! THEY ARE BEHIND 9-11 AS SURELY AS I AM SITTING HERE TYPING THIS AND MUST BE ARRESTED BY U.S. MARSHALL'S BEFORE THEY ATTACK SYRIA, IRAN OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY OR HAVE ANOTHER FALSE FLAG ATTACK HERE AT HOME! THEY ARE MURDERER'S, PERIOD, IN MORE WAYS THEN ONE! I PRAY FITGERALD DOES THE THE RIGHT THING BY COUNTRY AND INDICTS THEM ALL! ON Weldon, I don't TRUST R either but maybe the guy is legitimate? Remember DLC Democrats SUCK too! Including Hillary! I get sooo damn mad at people who are supposedly progressive and yet they support her! She sucks just like Clinton did just not as badly as BUSH! WE CAN DO BETTER THEN BOTH! AND MUST! And WE THE PEOPLE need to put heat on D's too, to do the right thing if Fitzgerald doesn't and get to bottom of Able Danger and also get to bottom of CIA outing! Fitzgerald HAD BETTER DO HIS DAMN JOB AND NOT COVER-UP OR MAKE ANY DAMN DEALS! AND INDICT THEM ALL! NO INDICTMENTS AGAINST BUSH AND CHENEY,TOO= COVER-UP! What are Likuds, by the way?
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 2:07 pm PT...
The reason Weldon is coming out with this is because they (he and Schaffer) claim that this all happened under CLINTON'S watch! They could care less if anybody gets anything else out of this...just make sure they think it was all Clinton's fault...their Fearless Leader gets to walk away scot free from what happened on his watch (was MADE to happen?). They blamed Clinton everyday for 8 years about the first World Trade Ctr. bombing, and that was only 3 months into HIS term! Nine months into Bush's...it's STILL Clinton's fault. Don't fall for this Weldon shit stirrin'....it's just to take the heat off the Flight-Suit-in-Chief, the Ventriloquist-in-Chief, the anti-patriot Rove, and Scooter (as in how a hyena scoots). That's why no one will give this sordid little prank the attention Weldon deperately wants. Thank the fates that maybe people are finally realizing what apathy and support for these convicts can do in the long term.
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 2:17 pm PT...
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 2:50 pm PT...
You guys realize that all of these 'conspirators' you are commenting on regarding the Able Danger cover-up are career bureaucrats within DIA. Many of them were appointed or hired by the almighty Bill Clinton himself as he tried to dismantle the organization during his 8 year tenure as President. Very few if any would have been placed by the 'evil' GW as he had only been there 8 months before the 911 attacks. Be careful what you wish for; You may find it. Given Clinton's handling of terrorism during his presidency it is easy to see something like this happening at DIA.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 4:06 pm PT...
Sue..notice how Hillary is way out front in the "polls" for '08? I read dem. blogs a lot, even the right leaning Kos...have never heard 1 comment in favor of Hill. Don't trust the polls.
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 5:59 pm PT...
Hey Ted, you shill.
Michael Chertoff was appointed to head the department by Cheney. Long after Clinton was out of office. And they didn't know about it.
In fact the Pentagon never told anyone and Able-Danger was shut down in 2001. And who headed the Pentagon but Douglas Feith and numerous Israeli spies. Government didn't do 9-11.....Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down and Israeli agents alongside CIA did 9-11....
Just like USS Cole....it was planned long in advance and prepped by Chertoff.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 8:16 pm PT...
Holy crap, Michael Moore actually put a 9/11 Truth news story on his headline front page? That corporate shill Moore has been white washing 9/11 and the crimes of our complicit government for the last two years...maybe he has had a change of heart.
While obviously Weldon only has part of the truth, it's refreshing to see prominent people in the US Government trying to expose the 9/11 coverup. I believe the topic of the 9/11 coverup WILL NO LONGER just be a fringe web site topic; but on the mouths of people at water coolers, board meetings, breakfast tables and classrooms everywhere.
Weldon needs to know about how the Pakistani ISI head General Ahmad wired $100,000 *TO* Atta, but was also meeting with Bob Graham and Porter Goss in DC the morning of 9/11.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 8:38 pm PT...
Why is it so much easier to believe that American's (who you disagree with politically)planned, set-up and executed a horrendous act upon their fellow countrymen as opposed to avowed haters of this country? These terrorists whom you choose to ignore have a track record of hatred and have spilled a river of blood that goes back decades. They've killed people from nearly every nation on this planet. They read, and believe news accounts such as "Jews planned the destruction of the towers" and "Israelis eat Palestinian Children and Drink their Blood".
The terrorists must digest the same strories you do except you have the luxery of different editors that are more politically driven instead of racially inspired.
By the way Chertoff's appointment bolters my argument. If the conspirators who covered up Able Danger inside the DIA were people inside DIA (not CIA) prior to GW, Cheney et al. then it's VERY likely that Chertoff or anyone else after GW would not find out about it. Would a crooked Clintonista divulge his cover-up to his new Republican bosses? Especially after 9-11-01? Well maybe in your newspaper.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
said on 10/23/2005 @ 11:44 pm PT...
No Ted Johnson, your bullshit media-whore medicine is produced by MEMRI.
I have proof of all of it. And there are documents which back off Chertoff's absolute complicity, and also planning, in the nine-eleven attacks.
It was meant to be BLAMED on the arabs, you pithy fool. It was planned by the Pakistani ISI and Israeli Mossad, to be BLAMED on the Arabs, in typical swastika format....
All this was a prelude to their much under-known strategy of Securing the Realm.
No person in their right mind would deny Chertoff's involvement: Photos were taken of him on 9-11, during, and when Cheney gave the orders to have NORAD stand down.
Torture has a long grim history: It is not american, but Zionist Mossad torture. Was written into law in Ubekistan and Turkey.
This same law is now law in the United States.
Chertoff oversaw and helped everyone get out of the country 9-11 day
So now what are you going to do Ted? This was all setup long BEFORE that. Zionist Likud party members had even envisioned it and strategized it.
You aren't going to get away with the "it was islamists!" lie yet again....it didn't work with the USS Cole bombing either. The strategy was already PRE-PLANNED with or without the help of Cheney.
You're sunk, and do not turn this into a laughable "jew-hater" game. They are as far removed from the Jewish as your brother is removed from my cousin; only the same in appearance.
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
said on 10/24/2005 @ 2:10 pm PT...
Your 'information' was enlightening. I read all of it. However you need to know that Earth is down here (below the clouds).
The first article on Chertoff basically stated that he is tough on immigration. It also stated that he was involved in mass arrests of Arab immigrants as "sympathizers". Big Deal Doug. The U.S. Constitution does not extend to anyone who crosses the borders. It extends to WE THE PEOPLE. Citizens of the United States are definitely protected. If there are people in this country who are not citizens and they even hint at dealings with terrorists then I say SEND THEM BACK. Let them create a Constitution and a Bill of Rights in their own country. We don't have to let them Pee all over ours. Oh Yeah he (Chertoff) is also part of the FEDERALIST SOCIETY. Holy Cow Doug Maybe we ought to arrest him. How could we allow this? (sarcasm Doug) It is so humorous how you and your political friends are so concerned about and accepting of non-U.S. citizens (who may be terrorist sympathizers) but you guys shiver with fear at a U.S. citizen who belongs to an organization of conservative lawyers. (Well at least I may understand the whole lawyer thing.)
The next article dealing with terrorism baffles me. Let us assume that this is all factual and the accounts genuine.
So we (may have) stripped some prisoners of their clothes, made them hold buckets of water, deprived them of sleep, deprived them of food and water, thrown cold water on them in the middle of the hot desert and yes we may have even beat them... Maybe.
But have we..
Cut anyone's head off with a kitchen knife, without anesthesia, filmed it, screamed god is great during the procedure, sent it out to Al-Jezeera, took a knife and stabbed it into the dead eye socket of one of their prisoners (Saudi Arabia - helicopter engineer), blown up 38 little kids getting candy from a U.S. marine, slit the throat and shot dead Theo Van Gogh for making a movie he didn't like (a movie critical of Arabs not Jews)?????
So what's the difference? Our prisoners are still around. Their prisoners, if they ever get to that status, (allah [no pun intened] twin towers, Pentagon, 38 little kids) won't be able to tell you a thing. I'll let you figure out why.
You guys need to look around and quit flying above the clouds, out of reach of reality. Quit defending those who shouldn't be defended. It only hurts your ideals and your ideas.
As far as the "Jew-Hater" charge goes I'm not going to say a damn word. You express your feelings far better than I ever could.
Oh yeah here's another riddle for you. If you are right and the Mossad helped plan 911 why would they pick the Pentagon? One: this is where the bulk of their new fancy weapons are designed and initiated and two: if they were ever found out they would lose all funding and weapons within a week. Hence they would expose themselves to annihilation. You may think the Israeli's are a lot of things but I'm sure even YOU don't think they're suicidal.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
said on 10/24/2005 @ 9:55 pm PT...
LOL! Ted, is that your only rebuttal?
Do you think anybody let alone "Al-Quaeda" could have pulled off such a flawless event as the twin towers falling?!???!?
Read between the lies err I mean lines. It was a heavily planned operation, all in advance, and there is photographic evidence.
They scapegoated the arabs just like it indicates, and their own organization, MEMRI spoonfed many of the negative news information and disinformation regarding Arabs cutting people into pieces.
Israelis are AFRAID of arabs. Not only afraid, but they hate them and the entire Likud party especially.....HATES them to pieces. And those Likuds are not real jews so I won't get into that. Sharon is a war-criminal buddy. And the Mossad intelligence, the only organization with enough defense technology to pull off an operation like 9-11......is run by NOT the Pentagon. But the Likud party who is inside the Pentagon and the embassy.
Look up the facts instead of being ignorant. Mossad hired Mohammed Atta. The so called "members who died in the attacks" are never even revealed. The whole coverup was done by the US DOJ. Chertoff ran the US DOJ and before that ran the New Jersey sting operation on Oklahoma City. Its been years in planning, you silly fool. And the CIA worked with Mossad to make it happen.
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
said on 10/27/2005 @ 12:59 pm PT...
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
said on 2/5/2006 @ 7:55 pm PT...
Curt Weldon's time of fun, games and playing politics over the lives of American service members is coming to an end!
Watch this coward cry his eyes out one day soon!
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
said on 4/10/2006 @ 3:18 pm PT...