Guest blogged by David Edwards
Over the weekend, Warren Beatty and his wife, Annette Bening, followed Gov. Schwarzenegger to several rallies. It was an attempt to bring attention to some negative aspects of the Governor’s “reform” agenda.
Warren Beatty is troubled that the Governor will not debate anyone on the issues. Beatty says, “As near as I can tell, the broken system that he wants to change is called ‘democracy'”.
Since Schwarzenegger is not willing to debate anyone on his “reform” agenda, CNN put together a short virtual debate between Warren Beatty and the Governor.







FrisT!!
yeah, yeah, yeah,
but what about Carol Costello? Had no idea how bang-able she actually is….
oh, sorry….. that’s kinda sexist, isn’t it?
I was in California before and during the recall of Gov. Davis.
I predicted the Davis demise … and also Arnold’s at his first election. Also that Davis’s departure would be misunderestimated by the RNC.
The reason was that I realized that Californians were just plain pissed off at their state government period. They were fed up and clearly said so.
They will vote Awnald out and they are looking for an honest, non-criminal type. They want a clean slate and are not listening to the crap any more.
I think the rest of the nation is at the place California was at when Davis was ejected from the game. That means that the GOP is going to pay dearly in ’06 for the support they have given this criminal administration.
And whatever party gets the majority as a result of the people being pissed off had better not take it as a sign they are cool … they should realize they are just the least of the evils in the minds of the voters. They are being given a one-time chance.
That means they had better do a good job the first time or their own party will take a major hit in the ’08 election.
#1, #2
Your useless name eradicates anything you might imagine to be intellectual, wise, or worthwhile reading.
Here is a stroke for your need
Whoa there "Judge Dredd", lighten up. It’s just a little twist on the whole "kiss me, I’m Irish" thing – Good thing I didn’t latch onto some lame-ass Sylvester Stallone flop…
Are we not participating in some theater of the absurd anyway??
geez…whattadick….
You invent a name, attach me too it, and then tear it down. My handle is not "Judge Dredd".
I do not know who you are talking about when you say "we" are participating in something absurd. That you are doing alone.
I think you and your unit which you like to talk about while putting down Irish folk, and now women, are the theatre of the absurd.
That is what I said and what I meant. Deal with it.
LOL!!
whatta dick…..
… and we wonder why the goose-stepping right-wingers stay in power. We can’t even stop fighting about on-line nicknames.
Dredd, the problem with your summary of voters getting pissed off, is it won’t make one iota of difference when the vote tallies are rigged.
Warren Beatty sounds like he has the heart, but it doesn’t sound like he has his sh*t together yet. Do we know what party is is running under?
I hope he’s doing his research and prepairing himself for a real discussion if that ever happens. I’d like to know more on where he stands and his plan for California.
#9 Mag…
Don’t you think that the severe puritanical streak running thru our culture would preclude Beatty as a viable candidate from the get go?
Sure Ahnoldt’s been a Gropinator, but we all know Dems/Liberals are held to a different standard than Repugnantcans….
btw – I didn’t mean to fight with anybody (‘specially with some one who’s on our team) – I was just goofin’… really!
The Grabbinboober had a "Debate" here the other night. It consisted of him giving a speech followed by speeches of his opposition. No face to face debate.
At the break before the opposition he had one of those – oops I’m still on camera – moments when he leaned down towards the audience and said "Don’t listen to the people following me – they are all liars"
It was shown on the local news.
DA’G!!!
Watching the "Governator" get his butt "Terminated" makes me wish I was still living in San Diego!!!!
Dredd,
If you don’t mind my 2 cents…
I’m not fond of his name either, but I think we (meaning..I dunno…liberals, lefties, progressives..the relatively sane) need to try & forgive our brothers their minor sins, in the interest of sticking together against the monolithic evil enemy. Doncha think?
Anyway…Bulworth is one of my all-time favorite movies, written & directed by Beatty, too, I understand. It’s not perfect but still, I think it’s hilarious & freaking brilliant.
Hey Irish! I know you and can vouch for your sincerity and also know we can count you on "our side." Dredd must have missed your many other comments here at BradBlog.
CNN chose the comments they wanted to air in their orchestrated "debate." Did they intend to make Beatty SOUND like he’s not together?
After listening to the hosts talk after their cut-n-paste video (which they found humorous) it’s apparent they aren’t concerned about the serious issues behind the "movie stars" and politics. It’s apparent they aren’t interested in bringing awareness to the American Citizens — no they want to host a comedy show.
Since I don’t watch MSM TV as a rule these days, I’m not sure who these people are. Was the show a comedy show or was it part of a news show?
Unfortunately, they weren’t forthcoming with real information regarding Schwarzie’s comments on the Unions giving money to political campaigns. I found info on that and posted it on another thread. CLICK HERE to read about Proposition 75.
WHY are American Citizens, no matter what political party they belong to [or DON’T belong to] — excluded from Republican political campaign speeches — which BTW are paid for with Tax Money — which is taken from All American Citizens [not just Republican Citizens]?
Doesn’t that question even occur to our illustrious talking heads & TV News show hosts? Are they sporting size 7 IQs or are they complicit? They certainly aren’t catching nor reporting on the REAL NEWS.
get over yourselves liberals. Bullworth was a movie – he’s not a Senator. Ahhnold is a real governor – maybe not too effective but a real governator. OBTW why don’t you _PROVE_ the campaign event was paid for by taxpayer money instead of republican party funds? If you could do that I imagine it would fire up a LOT of people. By "prove" I don’t mean the typical unsubstantiated assertions and "that must mean" that passes for proof on this board but legal proof. KISSES.
Are they sporting size 7 IQs or are they complicit?
after all this time you have to ask? They are complicit. Gotta love the example they give as complicit.
Arnie is fighting the wrong fight. Regular people care a whole lot more about teachers, nurses and firefighters than they do about politicians. His star glitter is flaking off.
Haha Sukabi. I wasn’t really asking! I’m fully aware of the frightening state of our goebbels-influenced media.
Here’s an excellent article:
They Thought They Were Free
Hey Gastritis #15 — let’s see you PROVE the campaign was not paid for with Taxpayer money!
castro said
"Ahhnold is a real governor"
Say What??????!!!!!
Ahhnold is the biggest special interest money sinkhole this state has ever seen!!
He’s even gone out of state to drum up money for his phoney special interest initiatives.
Blames the cops, the firefighters and the teachers for the states finacial problems while sucking in money from those who would benefit from his union busting proposals.
Arnold is the puppet of the Pete Wilson Republicans who are trying to break unions and redistrict California in their favor (ala Texas). The voters are wise to him.
Independent One #8 Lets hope the current political and legal pressure can get something done in the states where elections are taking place.
I agree that the current criminal climate in Washington, Ohio, Florida, and other states, could effect the ’06 election.
Perhaps we should start to organize, at VELVET REVOLUTION, poll watching, exit poll enhancements, and the like?
BMII #10, Joan #13 et. al. yeah, lets move on, we have lots to do before November of ’06
Katrina is another big coverup by the MSM at the behest of the beast admin (link here).
Hardball with Chris Matthews is coming down hard on the admin this week. Monday nite’s program was scathing.
hadn’t re-visited this till just now…so, for what it’s worth: Kira, thanks for your kind words, Joan, sorry you’re put off by this odd-ball name – u2 Dredd….
friends??
Here is a must see flash video: Arnold’s Neighborhood
LOL
Hi Irish and Dredd! I’ve been hanging around Bradville for quite some time and I really love both you guys, even though I don’t always agree with you or even approve of how you may approach certain issues. But hey, we Bradvillians are family, and let’s just make sure we keep family squabbles in proper perspective. We’re facing an epic, Tolkienesque battle, and while it’s fine to sharpen our teeth, like lion cubs tussling, we have to keep one goal in sight – the reclaiming of our once great country! Let’s get together and go get those bastards! We can jockey for SCOTUS positions later…
#24, #26
Yep, onward friends to ’06 and beyond …
czaragorn, I whole-heartedly agree!!
The Brad Blog was the first place I found ACTUAL NEWS being reported and a place to vent my own deeply felt beliefs about my nation and the unspeakably disgusting failures and frauds foisted upon it by our Idiot King and his cronies!
Usually, I’m so irritated and outraged, it’s a challenge to find the words to express my disgust with Chimpy and his lapdogs in the MSM, so when I just goof a little and get drilled by someone other than a troll – well, it hurts my feelings….waaaah.
#24
Irish,
Yeah, darlin’, friends, you bet! Your choice of name is nuthin’ compared to the prevalent vernacular of my two mad-women daughters & their buddies!
As Czaragorn says, we’s family here & we’re on the same side.
Kumbai – ya my lord… Kumbai yaaaaaa
#23
Dredd,
Thanks for that link to yet another horrifying piece on the appallingly incompetent response to Katrina. We must NOT let this go, EVER, until people go to jail for this.
Now that I have cleaned up my image and name, I invite you to read this.
Hi Czaragorn! Long time no see Glad you’re posting again.
Joan — PLEASE update us on what’s happening in S. FL after Wilma. The news media blacked it out — Raw Story had a headline that Larisa was coming back with an in-depth follow-up about the seniors stranded in high rises with no power & no way to get in & out, but I never saw any more about it.
I read comments on other blogs by people in Ft. Laud. who said they had heard power wouldn’t be fully restored until Nov. 22. This is dispicable!!! Jebbo didn’t want any unfavorable news about his state to add to the boiling pot of crap created by bro’ chimpie bushitler ??
Anyway – so glad to see you up & posting again.
AND to Irish & all — glad to see everybody passing the peace pipe.
Dredd #32 — add this to your link:
Scooter’s a Real Family Values Guy!
Kira #34
Your link is in the post I link to. Sheesh Kira now they won’t read my funny
Oops, now I’m hopelessly embarressed I linked to the same story Dredd linked to re: scooter-pooter.
But I CAN ADD this link to the mix. A Disturbing Trend – Washington political wonks who try to pen steamy encounters
I think they wimped out on choosing lines from Scootie-poot’s book, which some readers from Amazon.com thought could easily have been lifted from Penthouse Forum.
So sorry, Dredd! waaaaah!
Kira & Dredd – What I can’t believe is what his book is going for on the net. According to what they said on the radio this morning an autographed copy was at $2,400 and $700 for a hardback not autographed.
I guess all those rightous evengenicals are actualy a bunch of smut whores.
That’s what I’ve been saying all along, Bluebear2. The evidence all points to your assessment.
The "Family Values" voters (according to polls) rated higher (as opposed to those who voted for Kerry) in these areas: Purchase of pornography, teen-age pregnancy & divorce.
It’s all smoke & mirrors, y’know.
Oops, guess I should read all the links before I post.
Seems I repeated the contents of the link within a link which has been cross linked within another link and become the object of link envy by Dredd and Kira!
LOL
Kira #39
The teenage pregnancy I can understand when you look at their views on birth control and sex education. The lack of sex education could certainly contribute to higher divorce as well, but the pornography part seems not to make sense untill you consider that it may be because it is a "forbidden fruit".
Prohibition = desire.
Hoping to see vote results at http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/, but nothing up yet.
"forbidden fruit" could apply to Gannon/Guckert, Rove, Mehlman….nyuk nyuk…
I wonder if Lynn Cheney might’ve ghost-written the smuttiest parts for Scooter…
Thinking I might change my name to "Impeach Me, I’m Irish", but that might be too oblique a referrence to ‘blow me’ – which is a good thing. Thanks to Chimpy the Sock Monkey, impeachment may once again be applied to ACTUAL CRIMINAL CONDUCT IN OFFICE!!
What about "heckuva job" Brownie, the "fashion god?" Borrowing from Wonkette – who knew FEMA stood for "Fashion Emergency Management Agency" ?? Queer Eye for the FEMA guy.
You know, there was a picture of duhbya with another skull-n-boner. Supposedly it ended up in the hands of Bob Stevens (American Media, Inc., headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida) who died of Anthrax inhalation after 9/11. There are a lot of interesting bits & pieces out there.
Bush Prefers Our Pretty Boy to His Pretty Boy
"Queer Eye for the FEMA guy."
Kira- I LOVE it….lol hah heh hoo hack hack wheeze…..
Kira,
I think you’ve killed the Irishman!
…Blowme – you ok?
yeah….bad toke…. sorry….
LOL
We’d hate to loose you!
Hey – it happens to me all the time, (tho’ in my case, it’s choking on beverates!) Praise the Lord for quick-witted comedians (and we’ve got several here) who can tease out the awful truth while giving us a laugh!
But, consumer be warned — it’s sometimes a little risky to read these threads while ingesting anything!
PS Irish – glad you’re ok!
Darn — I meant "beverages"
#33
Hi, Kira!
Sorry I’ve not been posting much lately..I’ve been a bit overwhelmed. Although I, my family & my property are all fine, with just minor damage, it has been time-consuming & frustrating trying to schedule various people to do roof, fence & screening repairs when many companies are overwhelmed themselves with repair requests, some only doing commercial sites or not accepting any more new customers.
Added to that, one of my lovely daughters, while driving my car, managed to destroy my front bumper, which fell off ("Honest, I only tapped the guy, mom!"), so I’ve got that to fix, too!
I’ve been on the phone alot.
We got power back Sunday, a little shy of two weeks without it. There are still many stop-lights that are out, which makes driving anywhere alot slower & a bit more dangerous, too, since some people seem to have difficulty dealing with those intersections as four-way stops.
Re your comments
"…about the seniors stranded in high rises with no power & no way to get in & out…"
I had not heard this, but it’s certainly possible, especially in poorer neighborhoods I would think! Hard to know, of course, without a competent media.
I don’t know how one would check this stuff out.
Re
"…comments on other blogs by people in Ft. Laud. who said they had heard power wouldn’t be fully restored until Nov. 22…"
I did hear this, and I know there are still some people without power. A friend just got his back today, so it’s being restored, but very slowly it seems.
There was an article just after Wilma, in the Florida Sun Sentinel, about Florida Power & Light possibly having disregarded warnings before the storm about their not maintaining or checking their equipment properly or often enough, with little follow-up on that story since.
One little interesting sideline:
I had read about a FEMA program that would reimburse people for hurricane-related items they’d purchased, if they qualified, so I called to see if I might.
It turned out I was outside their somewhat Catch 22 guidelines: I’d bought my generator just after Katrina, so it didn’t qualify as related enough to the more recent Wilma…so much for trying to have some foresight & be prepared for the next hurricane!
When I explained that to the FEMA person on the phone, she suggested helpfully that I could always SAY I’d bought it later so I could qualify.
Gee, that kinda reminded me of that helpful letter FEMA had sent around to nursing homes & funeral homes a few years ago, telling them how to just SAY this or that person’s demise was "hurricane-related" so they could scam the system & collect nice fat checks, which alot of them did! I didn’t feel right about it, not to mention I didn’t want to worry about some Homeland Security guy knocking on my door one day to slap the cuffs on me for fraud.
But it didn’t seem to occur to her that she had just nonchalantly told me how to commit fraud.
WHO IS TRAINING THESE PEOPLE??
Am I just a Goody-Two-Shoes or something?? Because the guy who is giving me an estimate for the car bumper ALSO tole me I should just say it was hurricane-related. That way, he would also take care of all the little dings & scrapes, give the whole car a new paint job (NICE & expensive), & because it was all "hurricane-related", my insurance co. can’t raise my premium!
I couldn’t do that either. Damn. Guess I’ll never be filthy rich.
*told* me!
#15: Kira-doll,
you made the unsubstantiated allegation that the event was paid for by taxpayer money. You prove it sweeetuuums or are your panties just in too tight a wad?
Here’s Republican state Senator Tom McClintock’s analysis of four propositions:
Proposition 74: Teacher Tenure. Do parents have a right to expect a higher level of competence before a teacher is granted life-time tenure? YES. This modest measure simply increases the teacher probation period from two years to five years.
Proposition 75: Public Employee Union Dues. Should public employees decide for themselves which candidates they will support with their own money? YES. This measure requires that before a public employee union can take money from that employee for political donations, it has to get the employee’s permission.
Proposition 76: State Spending. Should government live within its means? YES. This measure restores the authority that the governor of California had between 1939 and 1983 to make mid-year spending cuts whenever spending outpaces revenue without having to return to the legislature.
Proposition 77: Re-districting. Should voters choose their representatives in legislative districts that are drawn without regard to partisan advantage? YES. The most obvious conflict of interest in government is when politicians choose which voters will get to vote for them by drawing their own legislative district lines. This measure puts a stop to it.
"[T]o compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical."
— Thomas Jefferson, 1777
"Democrats cleaned up big in off-year elections from New Jersey to California, sinking the candidate who embraced President Bush in the final days of the Virginia governor’s campaign. They also turned back all four of GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s efforts to reshape state government. " (link here).
Too bad #54 isn’t able to understand all the implications of the propositions — typical wingnuttiness.
Joan,
Thanks for the update. I know how difficult it is to deal with repairs and especially when half the town needs them done.
The lack of integrity is showing across the country. I keep thinking about the poll that showed only 53% of those interviewed wanted impeachment of bushitler "if" it was proved he lied.
As you discovered, the FEMA representative was helping you find a way to "fudge" facts so you could be reimbursed. (I personally think they should reimburse anybody in a hurricane-prone area who purchased a generator, post Katrina, after what happened in New Orleans! That short time frame is too stupid *like the pResident*.)
But – it really fits my impression of too many people I know personally or have "run into" (even once like your daughter ) who have this strange "it’s ok to cheat if you don’t get caught" values.
I don’t think you’re a goody-2-shoes – you just have good moral character. You are a REAL family values kind of person (and I bet you believe in pro-choice, too.)
Keep up the good work! (((Hugs!)))
Kira,
Hell’s bells, yes, I’m pro-choice. I was once arguing with some nice pro-life ladies & one of them said "Good thing your mother was pro-life or you wouldn’t be here."
I asked my mom later what her views on it were back in 1947! and it turns out she was pro-choice then & still is.
Funny how some assume that anyone who’s had a child is automatically pro-life. They don’t get the ‘choice’ part.
Eh, morals! What a sticky subject. I dunno, my husband & I tried to teach our kids a few things in our own, muddled way. Guess I won’t know how we did till we’re at the pearly gates, see if they let us in or not. Hope they’re flexible.