READER COMMENTS ON
"The On-Air Filibuster for a Filibuster Continues!"
(66 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 5:03 am PT...
The President gets to appoint judges. I thought the constitution was important to liberals.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 5:43 am PT...
I have been disappointed by Schumer's reluctance to get on board this filibuster. When last I heard him speak, he went on about how those of us who are born in Brooklyn have a speacial "fighters" spark. Well, I 'd like to see it light up now. Brad - You are doing an awesome job, and becoming my mainstream media in the process. I do not have time to listen to the talking heads but will "tune into this blog several times a day.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 6:50 am PT...
The president does not appoint judges, the president nominates judges. If the senate agrees they are confirmed.
If the senate does not agree then the judges are NOT approved.
Sounds like Ricky failed civics class where they explain how the constitution works.
Go Brad, Go Filibuster!!!
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 7:50 am PT...
The dial-up-only, kps-challenged among us are very wistful right now. Thank you, Brad, even though I can't hear you. :-\
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 8:27 am PT...
Way to go Brad. I'm glad to hear you're giving "The Young Turks" Another Break. You are all doing a FABULOUS job Thanks. I'll be listening tonight!
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 8:40 am PT...
Where can one get a live audiostream of this? Anybody know??
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 10:29 am PT...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:15 am PT...
Brad what would we do without you?I wish I could be in DC everyday,to lobby congress on behalf of the American people!!I think that would be an excellent idea,form a citizen's lobbying committee,or does one already exist?Anyway,thanks for all you do to fight the good fight,heaven knows,the MSM has failed us MISERABLY!!I'LL BE LISTENING TONIGHT,THIS IS A LIFE THREATING TIME FOR AMERICANS,AS THE THOUGHT OF SOMEONE SO OBSESSED WITH POWER,IN CHARGE,WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY WILL DO NEXT,TO STAY IN POWER???REAL PATRIOTS LIKE YOU AND A FEW OTHERS,MUST STOP THIS INSANE POWER GRAB,LEADING STRAIGHT TO A POLICE STATE SITUATION!!!GO GET 'EM BRAD,WE'RE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!!If BUSH gets ALITO on the SC,WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD THESE CROOKS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST OUR COUNTRY,AND THE REST OF THE WORLD!!
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
Roger Drowne EC
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:24 am PT...
Thanks Brad & Young Turks... GREAT STUFF
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ENJOY the REVOLUTION -
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COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 12:05 pm PT...
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 12:14 pm PT...
Neo-cons are working their way up to controlling the Supreme Court with Alito, they will install a puppet president they can control who will nominate PNAC members to the cabinet, and then will be above they law when the Supreme Court has 5 radical rightwing judges.
CASE CLOSED! (...no pun intended...sorry about that...)
I'm forced to believe that the Dems are either stupid or complicent in everything that's going on. They are silent on the electronic voting machines, they are not fillibustering Alito, and they make no mention of the fact that there's at least double-digit members of the PNAC in Bush's cabinet. They say NOTHING that we always talk about and think is important (except for John Conyers). Anyone got any other choices other than the Dems are complicent or stupid? And btw, BOTH of those choices render them useless to US!!!
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 12:32 pm PT...
Our liberties are WORTH FIGHTING FOR!
No matter the price, our country is at stake. The Dems must Filibuster! Without it we are without a country. AS WE ALL KNOW WE ARE WITHOUT A president.(That's right small p) Bush is only for the Military Complex, Big Business, and of course his cronies. The little people have to stand up, and the only way is through a FILIBUSTER! OUR REPRESENTATIVES MUST NOW TAKE THE SWORD AND CARRY IT FORWARD. CALL, EMAIL, VISIT THEM IF YOU CAN. BUT DO IT!
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 12:59 pm PT...
The psy-ops going on at Young Turks is agonizing. I'm listening for learning purposes, but playing possum is making me want to throw a brick through my monitor.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 1:12 pm PT...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 1:59 pm PT...
For folks who have Repub senators or Dem senators against filibustering Alito:
CONTACT your senators ANYWAY. Tell them that you, as a constituent, want a CONSENSUS CANDIDATE for the Supreme Court, a moderate judge who will UNITE the country instead of DIVIDE it.
Help them to see: give them the cover they need to justify a change of heart, and PUT THEM ON NOTICE if they place loyalty to party over loyalty to America, if they choose to support division over unity. Give us a moderate candidate that we can all support!
The Repugs had no problem jettisoning Harriet Miers when their base complained --- help the Dems and the moderate Repugs feel the heat!
No one in a position to vote on this nominee should slip through without getting an earful from concerned citizens who are NOT conservative nutjobs, who are NOT zombies in the BushBorg Collective, who are NOT going to roll over because they aren't guaranteed to "win", who PROMOTE UNITY in the country in these bitterly, deliberately divided times...
CALL every senator!
DEMAND A CONSENSUS CANDIDATE FOR THE SUPREME COURT!
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
Can We Count?
said on 1/29/2006 @ 3:45 pm PT...
For Barack Obama, Naysayer:
He claimed today on ABC that those who win elections hold the power to choose Supreme Court Justices. He seems to have overlooked the small fact that he, himself, WON an election to the United States Senate, and swore an oath to uphold and protect and defend our Constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic.
That Constitution provides that Presidents shall nominate, and SENATORS shall advise and consent (or not) to candidates for a seat on the Supreme Court. But Senator Obama wants SOMEONE ELSE to do his elected duty in this matter for him??!! Or wants to defer taking a stand because someone else might get elected in the future who would be willing to do it for him..???
He also claims that the Democrats haven't made their case to the "American people" for opposing this man [or at least for why a filibuster is important; apparently a meaningless No vote has been sufficiently "explained" for his purposes]. WHICH "Democrats," Mr. Obama, would you be referring to, I wonder. I assume you are talking about some Party of which you are not a member, as you certainly made no case whatsoever for your NO vote on Alito and weak-kneed "support" for a filibuster, on ABC's national television broadcast this morning. On the day before a crucial vote on this nomination by the Congressional body of which you are an elected member, representing the State of Illinois. Or had you overlooked that small detail?
[Nevermind the fact that the INFORMED (via the internet) "American people" are FLOODING the offices of their Senators with THEIR own passionate case for opposing this man. But in Mr. Obama's world, only UNINFORMED, tuned-out Americans are deserving of representation, apparently.]
The arrogance. The elitism. The holier-than-thou pronouncements. The egotism. The nastiness. And the utter lack of wisdom, the ignorance of historical perspective, and the lack of appreciation for the basic building blocks of our Constitutional form of government are appalling. Granted this rings true for the Republicans in spades - but then those Republicans now holding federal office are basically common criminals - and one doesn't expect much from such characters.
But the airs that Barack Obama likes to adopt make his pitiful words, that put the lie to his act, all the more reprehensible. [Sir, the Constitution is not an "optional" document, up for "election" along with Political Parties. It is the reason every Senator has an office to hold, and it is the duty of those sworn to hold those offices to uphold the clear words in that document through every election and every season bad and good, without fail, and for as long as our federal government remains instituted by the consent of the governed.]
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/29/2006 @ 4:36 pm PT...
It would be a real Mind blower if "The Howard" Participated (Stern)
In the On air On Line Filibuster for a Fillibuster.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/29/2006 @ 4:49 pm PT...
I Never Trusted barack O'BUMMER (obama)
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 5:28 pm PT...
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 8:14 pm PT...
All Democratic Senators who do not see the reality of an Alito confirmation are in dereliction of duty and they need to be handed pink slips.
It's an odd thing about Obama. His speech at the Dem Convention...thought he was going to be a trailblazer. I guess anyone can talk a load of crap.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 8:33 pm PT...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 8:45 pm PT...
I've been listening to the Young Turks yesterday and most of today. I was e-mailing my senators and other senators opposing a filibuster. As I logged on to AOL there is was on AOL News - Is There a New Member of the Bush Family - guess who? Bill Clinton. If Clinton is now part of the Bush family that means Hillary is part of the family too. So if and when she gets in, we still have the same family ruling. We are back to having a monarchy. Here is a link to the article http://articles.news.aol...1&_ccc=5&cid=842. Brad is the only person really fighting the true fight - the fight for election reform. Until we control the elections, there is no hope. So I just tore up my voting card and I'm and not voting anymore.
It doesn't matter if we vote or not. I now believe that the majority of the congress and senate were not elected by the people - they surely don't represent the people. There is no difference between republicans and democrats. They are extremely over paid actors (and bad at - especially the current actor playing commander and chief) employed by the corporations to keep us all distracted why they steal away our rights, our property and eventually our lives. Many of us are aware of this that is why they had to have electronic machines because now there is definitely no proof to what they are doing. When this country was founded our forefathers structured it so that the People controlled the Government and the Government controlled the Corporations. Well that has been completely reversed. The Corporations control the Government and the Government control the people. The Corporations choose our leaders and no matter how we vote they still pick who will be in charge of us. They just let us think we are in control. The own the machine and they own the candidates. I am tired of playing their game and always losing. When we really decide to take control and fight the good fight, call me up. I don't think I'll ever get the call. In the meantime, I pray that by the time they have taken total control I am long gone from this earth. All those that need to keep deluding themselves by thinking their vote counts, do what ever you need to do to get through the day by I'm no longer in the game.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 9:10 pm PT...
Coming in great sound and video. Hope we get to hear and see more of Desi tonight.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 9:20 pm PT...
Great to see you there brad. Are you in the hartmann chat? Need immediate feedback...
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 9:49 pm PT...
BYRD HAS ROOM ON HIS MAILBOX
CALL HIM NOW
Sunday night, almost 9:45 pacific time!
here's the toll free number: 888-355-3588
Thanks for your part in the Young Turk filibuster, Brad!
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 9:50 pm PT...
Regarding #22 - Mary --- In 2003 the top 1 percent of households owned 57.5 percent of corporate wealth, up from 53.4 percent the year before, according to a Congressional Budget Office analysis of the latest income tax data. The top group's share of corporate wealth has grown by half since 1991, when it was 38.7 percent. (here)
IMO, it is not possible for a democracy to flourish or even exist for any length of time under these circumstances, and it is easy to see what is underlying so much of what we are dealing with. Brad's and our fair elections struggle is vital because any victory for democracy holds back the tide, and fair elections on all levels is revolutionary under the circumstances. From my own point of view, the elections issue shines a clear light on the corporate/power elite vs. democracy paradigms - who owns the votes, who controls the votes. A vital issue of citizenship with the potential - well, it's already doing it - of sparking a resurgence of passion for constitutional democracy.
Of course, Alito on the court would be keystone in the edifice of corporatism (in it's extreme form - fascism.)
Regarding the article about Clinton and Bush - I, at least, agree with Republicans and conservatives on one matter - Clinton doesn't have much character and character is important.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 10:27 pm PT...
Thanks, Brad. I'm listening.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 10:39 pm PT...
Your caller just said to bring it down to one thing to make it simple.
My version of this is: How can the dems expect to win (especially against Kyl in AZ) if we don't show that we will stand up against the republican machine?!!!!
If we just go along with all of the republican moves, the voters might as well choose a republican!
Show the country that the dems will stand against that tank (insert here the image of lone protestor in Tiananmen Square).
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 10:58 pm PT...
I'm watchin' here too ...as best as I can
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:22 pm PT...
Brad: Is your guest going to talk about this developing story?
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:30 pm PT...
I truly appreciate your defense of residents of the red states on the Young Turks radio show this evening (yes, Richard was off base --- although not one-hundred percent off base --- in his description of those "reds" who never engage in political thought and merely spout mindless republican talking points). FYI: My mom was born and raised in southern Missouri (Stoutland and Lebanon). She is as anti-Bush as I am. Here in Nebraska and South Dakota (where I was raised), I have met more people who despise Bush than like him. At least half, and as many as three-fourths, of the reader comments in the local newspaper here in western Nebraska are anti-Bush. That said, I have one seemingly well educated friend who thinks that Bush is a hero, that invading Iraq (even illegally) was a noble cause, and anyone left of Bush is a dangerously deluded subversive. I've lost a lot of respect for her opinion since I learned that.
Back to the point of this message: Like you, I made a similar (brief) defense of "red states." Please click this link and enjoy: Red State-Blue State... Get a Clue!
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
Ryan @ The Higher Pie
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:44 pm PT...
Just wanted to let you know my RealPlayer time counter just hit 10 hours. I've been listening all day, as well as at least 30 hours since Thursday.
Thanks for giving Cenk and Jill a break. You're doin' great.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:51 pm PT...
Brad and Larisa,
Lovin' the filibusterin'....great show!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
said on 1/29/2006 @ 11:58 pm PT...
The NYT article (Monday, Jan 30) is now on line:
In Alito, G.O.P. Reaps Harvest Planted in '82
"...Judge Alito's confirmation is also the culmination of a disciplined campaign begun by the Reagan administration to seed the lower federal judiciary with like-minded jurists who could reorient the federal courts toward a view of the Constitution much closer to its 18th-century authors' intent, including a much less expansive view of its application to individual rights and federal power. It was a philosophy promulgated by Edwin Meese III, attorney general in the Reagan administration, that became the gospel of the Federalist Society and the nascent conservative legal movement.
Both Mr. Roberts and Mr. Alito were among the cadre of young conservative lawyers attracted to the Reagan administration's Justice Department. And both advanced to the pool of promising young jurists whom strategists like C. Boyden Gray, White House counsel in the first Bush administration and an adviser to the current White House, sought to place throughout the federal judiciary to groom for the highest court.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 5:40 am PT...
Can We Count #16
We should count up the votes in congress and see who has the power. Then hold those with the power accountable. Who has the chairmanship of all committees in congress, the majority on all committees, and the majority votes?
And what party has the white house?
So should we vote the minority party out of office because they have not exercised the majority controlled powers?
Get a friggin grip people, accountability says punish the powerful when they are doing the wrongs. Do not punish the minority for the crimes of the majority.
Have we lost all sense of fairness, equity, and accountability?
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 5:47 am PT...
Hey y'all, here's a brief c&p from an action alert I received this weekend. I thought the links might be helpful.
Once again we achieved our overnight objective from the local district phone action. There are widespread reports of senators' phones ringing off the hook and fax machines running out of paper coast to coast. And YOU did it. We are witnessing the greatest outpouring of public opinion ever, being described as "astonishing," in support of the people's Alito filibuster. The hunger for policy change grows daily, and people want to know what more we can do. There is TONS more we can do, and these are our next moves:
It is critical that we open up multiple collateral fronts, while at the same time repeating the cultural phenomenon witnessed in the last 24 hours on an even LARGER scale. There are two NEW action pages below which will send your personal messages in real time to your senators' internet gateways. We will still keep the phone and fax pressure on, but with these gateways we can deliver an UNLIMITED number of messages! This will multiply your chances to voice your opposition and layer those messages. Please submit both these new action pages and forward this alert to everyone else you know.
FIRST COLLATERAL ACTION: Anticipate and beat back any nuclear option move
In the back of the minds of our senators, the essential cowardice we must confront is their fear of exercising power generally, and in particular of the Republican so-called nuclear option. They are not afraid of losing a filibuster vote as much as they are afraid of WINNING, for only then would the threat of a nuclear option come into play. With the exercise of power comes responsibility, and above all that is what they must now do, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
In fact the nuclear option is a win-win situation for us. If the Republicans abuse the Senate rules and have enough sanity to fall short, we win outright. If they are misfortunate enough to break the rules, they will be punished by their constituents for not playing fair AND will have no way to stop US from undoing all their damage when we take back the Congress in 2006. Either way we demonstrate that Democrats WILL fight ferociously for what they believe in, ensuring prospects for success in 2006.
The action page above is a voting page which poses the question if it would be fair for the Republicans to pull some nuclear stunt. We need to tell BOTH Democrats AND Republicans how angry we would be at such a move. This will embolden our own and give enormous pause to the other side. It must be done for us to win.
SECOND COLLATERAL ACTION: Pressure Harry Reid to Either Lead or Step Aside
There have been multiple calls in the progressive internet for Harry Reid to step down, notably from Buzzflash.com. The issue is not whether he should remain a senator from Nevada. Indeed his declared INDIVIDUAL support for the filibuster earns him that. But the role of a leader is not to take his hand off the rudder and walk away. And it is not acceptable for a coach to declare to the media and his team that they are going to lose in the middle of the third quarter.
Even if there were a couple senators who HAD to oppose the filibuster, and that is increasingly doubtful in the face of the public outpouring now taking place, what a LEADER would do is designate a couple byes and still lock in at least 41 certain votes. He would twist arms or promise favors to arrive at that result. If Reid can't or won't do the job he MUST be replaced with someone who can. But there may be reasonable differences of opinion, so again, we have made the above action page a voting page where you can vote either way, and add whatever personal comments you like.
The important thing is for Reid to feel the heat and the pressure to perform, and the question we pose simply asks if he is providing enough leadership. The side effect of pressuring him is that OTHER senators will better internalize that their own jobs are on the line if they fail the people this time, in particular from primary challenges. The bottom line is we need to have someone, hopefully Reid himself, to step up and take charge, whoever has the leadership to do so.
KEEP UP WITH THE LOCAL PHONES AND FAXES
The fact that senators are already aware of full answering machines and fax machines out of paper means perhaps that some might be cleared overnight, so that you can get through there again too.
If this message is forwarded to you and you are in another state, you can instantly look up your own senators' numbers with the one click function at
Our message to our senators is simple. Your vote to support a filibuster will NOT cost you an election. Any other vote absolutely will. Respect the will of the people and you will have the most mobilized and committed activists in the country to contribute and work tirelessly for your behalf. Oppose the will of the people and we will raise challengers to you in your own primaries and contribute every dime we have to them to defeat you, and failing that we will look to find ANY other candidate in the general election to support. Listen to the people or your political career will be the REAL done deal. EMPHASIZE that you are a constituent (IF you are) and provide contact information to prove it.
If you are looking to do even MORE, here is the master list of ALL phone and fax numbers for ALL senators, with annotations about which are the most critical swing votes.
If you are calling senators in other states, be candid that you are not a direct constituent. But the message is the same, if you stand with the party on this one we will go out of our way to help you. Otherwise we will flood your state with money and labor to support ANY candidate who runs against you until the end of time.
It is wonderful if you want to make massive numbers of phone calls yourself. But you can IMMENSELY amplify your effectiveness by FIRST forwarding this message to absolutely every other person you know so that they can be similarly mobilized. It is not just the sheer volume of messages, even more critical is the number of DIFFERENT people speaking out at once.
Let us be able to look back and say we did everything we could have done to win this victory in spite of the corrupt media pundits who are working overtime to tell us what we cannot do. We are proving them wrong day by day.
Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be ours, and forward this message to everyone else you know.
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COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 5:50 am PT...
Oh man, that was long, I shoulda hit preview again - sorry Brad!
Please feel free to delete that if you feel you must.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 6:50 am PT...
There are two problems with the post ... the size is not one of them IMO.
It asks for full addresses, which it should not IMO.
And it blames the minority democratic party for the wrongs of the majority republican party.
To ask Reid to lead or get it in the shorts is to shift focus from the republicans who have the power.
This is real. Homeless people do not have the power to build subdivisions, and to go in and beat them with bats because of that is criminal.
The republicans control the building permits, own the land, and the builders are republicans.
In this analogy, do not go to the homeless and expect them to build the house.
The republicans must be voted out if justice is to be done. Beating on the democrats shows Stockholm Syndrome and is unjust.
It is the neoCon way to do that. This must stop and we must get behind the minority party and do our part and vote out the republicans.
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/30/2006 @ 9:04 am PT...
Does anyone have the list of the Dems that May have killed the Filibuster ? ? ?
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 9:31 am PT...
Judge of Judges #45
There are 55 republicans. They are the majority.
Do you have a list of the republicans who killed the filibuster?
If 97% of the minority voted against Alito, and 100% of the majority voted for Alito, where do you get off wanting to blame the wrong crowd?
If 55 republicans voted for cloture (stop filibuster), and none voted against cloture and for the filibuster, and they all voted for Alito ... HERE IS A CLUE ... the majority got Alito thru and the majority is responsible.
Stop blaming the democrats for what the republicans have done ... or come right out and admit that you are a friggin neoCon in disguise.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 9:45 am PT...
Byrd and Johnson, I believe are still for Alito.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/30/2006 @ 9:53 am PT...
#46 dredd . . . . DON"T TALK TO ME LIKE THAT ! ! ! !
Your paradigmy or way of thinking Guarantees neocon rule.
Find Some squirrels to Chase NOW !
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 10:31 am PT...
Steve, Thanks , I am now listening to the Young Turks!
Come on people let's get moving, I sent an email yesterday to Chaffee, he must have gotten quite a few for he voted NAY!
Also, Jeffords voted Nay, a small victoryfor sure, but a victory none the less.
Snowe has no declared as of this moment.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 10:37 am PT...
updates and senator phone numbers:
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 10:49 am PT...
ONE republican so far, with the obvious danger to our country if we do not filibuster, will allow filibuster. ONLY ONE!!!!!!
FORTY or more democrats, so far, will vote against Alito and therefore should be open to a filibuster.
Now folks, who the hell is getting in the way of stopping Alito .... cmon ... repeat after me:
Keep the shit off the democrats who are sincerely awake to the problem.
The democrats are doing a HELL OF A LOT better job in helping us than the republicans are.
Get it yet??????????????????
Fighting the Stockholm Syndrome virus yet????????????????????
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 10:54 am PT...
Judge of Judges #48
Stop bashing the minority for the wrongs of the majority neoCon republicans or Kiss my ass.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 11:09 am PT...
Read Aravosis' opinion at Americablog about the filabuster
You guys might br enlightened (or not) about what some thinking Dems are afraid of
Makes sense to me
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/30/2006 @ 11:16 am PT...
Thanks ! ...california_reality_check & RAM I made the calls byrds box was filled.
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 11:37 am PT...
Dredd - I agree with you most of the time, but I think you're missing the point of my post.
I am NOT bashing the minority party - I just want to see a spine! I want to see ANY Congress Critter stand up and be counted for trying to do the right thing!
Yes, the Dems are outnumbered - so should we encourage them to go into fetal position and whimper every time the bullies yell at them?
Are you saying we should NOT be giving them grief if they vote for Alito? Because it's my understanding that SOME of them actually voted FOR him.
I'd LOVE to believe that pressuring the Republicans to stand against the neo-cons - ON ANY ISSUE - would do some good. In fact, I've been putting pressure on my Senators too, about SEVERAL issues, and they're both REPUBLICAN - but my Senators are Frist and Alexander, and so far they are NOT LISTENING! They both voted "yes" for Alito early on. I'm 'bout to send my traditional "I'm not happy with the way you voted" letter too, though I expect no reponse.
Frist sends me form letters now and then, channeling George Bush. He's no help. I haven't even gotten a RESPONSE from Alexander. So far there is NOTHING I've agreed with either of them on (except maybe one education issue that Frist voted on several years ago, but I can't remember what it was)- but yes, I'll keep putting the pressure on, and I'll keep hoping.
And I'll keep thanking my REPRESENTATIVE, who so far has voted the way I hoped he would on most issues - and who, coincidentally, is a Democrat.
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 11:49 am PT...
Oh, and um, btw, Stockholm Syndrome implies that we identify and sympathize with the Republicans.
Telling the Dems to get up off their asses and fight is NOT identifying nor sympathizing with the Republicans.
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:01 pm PT...
PS: Got the heads up for the NYT article from the Raw Story link above.
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:03 pm PT...
Kestrel: I agree about the spine part.
BTW: Did you hear Brad's guest/caller (can't remember which lol) last night about that? She said that she cut and pasted a "spine" and sent it out to dems saying "Here, now you have one. Now stand up." (Or something like that)
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:07 pm PT...
Sorry you ran out of time. Thanks for mentioning the story!
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:10 pm PT...
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:10 pm PT...
Re: Senator Byrd
I want to send my book, Losing America, back to him. He obviously doesn't stand behind all of those "patriotism" words that he uses.
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said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:11 pm PT...
That rocked! Thanks, Brad!
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said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:14 pm PT...
Thanks guys! NEVER enough time for everything! Really appreciate all o fyour support! That was a hoot tonight. Keep listening to Bob Kincaid!!!! As the Filibuster for a Filibuster continues!
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said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:26 pm PT...
After about 30 or 40 attempts over the past few days, I FINALLY GOT A REAL PERSON ON THE PHONE AT BYRD'S OFFICE!!!!!
I begged and pleaded for the sake of states like AZ for the dems to offer an alternative to the republican agenda (we can possibly get Kyl out this year). It's bigger than West Virginia.
I said that I admired Byrd when he has spoken out against the machine and after reading his book --- and that so many of us are STUNNED(!!!) that he is falling for this ploy.
I also cited today's NYT article (thank you, Raw Story) that points out Roberts and Alito aren't just members of the Federalist Society --- they were "groomed" by the society (along with a whole scam to push them into the high courts).
The person on the other end listened to ALL of it. Very quietly (in fact, it was sooo quiet that I thought he had hung up at one point).
Call while the phones are open!
COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:26 pm PT...
It's Amazing How Little Sticks to (bush) "The Teflon Buffoon"
Consider Sending Your old Tennis, Golf, Basket, Ping Pong, Foot & Base Balls The Dems that do NOT support the Filibuster.
Several Tractor Trailer Trucks full of BALLS may get the point across. . . . Yip Yip
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:29 pm PT...
PS: Byrd's phone: 202-224-3954
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/30/2006 @ 12:47 pm PT...
Ram, "ALL CIRCUIT ARE BUSY " How many Mistriss's Can he Handle ? ? ? . . . .
It's not over Till The Fat repug Sings !
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said on 1/30/2006 @ 5:04 pm PT...
Some of these dems, the 44 of them in the senate, may have been there since before you were making coffee. You really think they just use 25% of their power or some such bull shit as that?
If they use all their power (vote as a block) they could not stop Alito (55-44-1) (55 republicans - 44 democrats - 1 independent). They can not stop anything period that takes a majority vote.
But for two years now on this blog, day in and day out, the dems are bashed for not "stopping this" and "filibustering that". I have tried to be moderate to give the republicans time to shake off the neoCons within their ranks.
They have not done so. Instead, they have been absorbed by the neoCons. The majority party is fascist.
The only thing that remains to be seen is whether or not fair elections will take place in November and whether or not the republicans will loose control of the house.
If that happens, it is a first step. Next will come the senate. If both are won back, then we can ... in a few years ... see some sanity returning.
But if Alito becomes a Thomas, which I predict, then it will take an impeachment of a Supreme Court judge to clean this fascism up. And that is very, very difficult.
But all this is the doing of the republicans, not the democrats. So to blame the democrats is indeed Stockholm Syndrome all over again.
They have taken us captive, and if we cuddle up to them ... well ... you know that story.
55-44-1 is the number that must be used for accountability.
The structure of the Senate is such that the majority has far, far, far more power than the minority. Most Americans do not even know the bill of rights, much less the bill of wrongs (Frist) ... and the power the neoCons wield.
Loose lips sink ships ... and our ship is sinking because the focus of wrath has not been placed upon the guilty.
Do a jury poll ... how do you stack up against the republicans ... in terms of who you yelled at most ... did you yell at the republicans much more than at the dems?
I sure as hell did!!!!!!!!!! Read my posts in the archives of this blog. I am on the record.
COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
said on 1/31/2006 @ 1:46 pm PT...
They are giving away their balls:
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said on 4/20/2006 @ 8:34 pm PT...
Unfortunately, the Reuters link above has the picture of Cindy being led out of the chamber and she is not wearing the t-shirt. She is wearing a more formal attire and carrying what appears to be a rolled up t-shirt in her hand. So she was likely ready to display the shirt or in the act of holding it up when she was arrested.
COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
said on 4/24/2006 @ 3:11 pm PT...
COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
said on 5/4/2006 @ 3:16 pm PT...
Very interested theme, with attention I will read following registration fees.