Hopefully this will be my last words on the disgraceful incident involving the arrest, removal and detention of Cindy Sheehan, who gave the life of her child in defense of this country, just prior to Tuesday’s State of the Union address.
This latest canary-in-the-coalmine story made the front page of WaPo today, and reveals quite clearly both the Media’s and at least one Republican’s bias against those who do not agree with the George W. Bush Administration…As well as the disregard for our Constitutional Freedom of Speech. At least by the Republican.
The WaPo article, written by Petula Dvorak, first reveals the pro-administration media bias and/or their consistent inability to fairly report on an unfair situation. Note this early graf:
In other words it’s implied here that Beverly Young, the wife of Congressman Bill Young (R-FL), who was removed from gallery at some point during Bush’s speech wasn’t arrested because, unlike Sheehan, it didn’t come to that. Mrs. Young must have been polite (she wasn’t) requiring no arrest, while Sheehan must have been unruly (she wasn’t) requiring arrest and hours of detention.
The fact of the matter, however, as clearly explained later in the article, is that Mrs. Young was never threatened with arrest at all, unlike Sheehan who was frog-marched out of the chamber and handcuffed from the get-go. And that was even with Sheehan being polite in every respect, by all accounts of the story, while Young was abusive towards the cops, calling them “idiots” (that night, and even later after their eventually apology) and, as WaPo points out, “Witnesses said her words for him were much saltier the night before.”
As I mentioned yesterday in my article on “Cindy Sheehan’s Unequal Treatment Under the Law”, the Wingnuts who’ve been busy trying to equate Sheehan’s treatment with Young’s (“They were both asked to leave, so clearly there’s no political bias here!” say the apologists) have also overlooked the fact that Young was asked to leave much later. After the cops already had an embarrassing situation on their hands. As WaPo reported…
She said she angrily challenged officers to explain what law she had violated, and they threatened arrest.
She said an officer mentioned that Sheehan was removed earlier and therefore “it was kind of only fair” that she be asked to leave, too.
It’s clear that Mrs. Young would have been left alone with her “Support the Troops” T-shirt and would not have been asked to leave, had not the cops already had the Sheehan situation on their hands, and needed to cover their asses.
Finally then, it’s revealed in the story that the hypocritical Congressman Young himself would likely not have said a word about Sheehan’s treatment (which was much worse than his wife’s) had his wife not been asked to leave. He admits as much:
So the woman actually arrested, detained, and perhaps even “roughed up” was no problem for Young’s “standards” because he “totally disagree[s] with everything she stands for.”
Welcome to the amazingly slipperly slope…as it gets still slipperier and slopier every damn day in this country.
Still unclear? See how Judge Anthony Napolitano — who defended Sheehan on Fox News, ostensibly, once it became clear she broke no rules or laws — reportedly contrasted Young’s T-shirt with Sheehan’s. Young’s, said Napolitano, in regard to the “Support the Troops” T-shirt, was “a Republican T-shirt.”
Fox happily took up the meme on their website:
The “opposite message”?!
It’s a dangerous fucking line we’re crossing here in America 2006. Pay attention.
ALSO… It’s not just the MSM who get the story wrong in their rush for political points. Blogger Glenn Greenwald reports on tons of Wingnut bloggers who couldn’t wait to lie about the Sheehan story to their readers…and then refuse to correct themselves after it was proven how incredibly wrong they were.
Brad:
Add Dan Abram to your list (MSNBC). Last night he said both women were treated the same. He got lots of emails.
So tonight he read the emails that pointed out that the women were not treated the same. And he said he was sticking to his original comment.
(Insert video of me screaming and pulling out my hair)
I have already deleted Faux from my tv and I guess many more will follow. For the sheep that can’t see the blatant discrimination…sleep well.
I am here arguing that cindy sheehan had all the right to express her feelings. She did not scream out to anyone saying to see her shirt. In a document I previously read written by cindy she said she was taking out her jacket because she was exhausted from walking up the 3 flights of stairs. She had every right to wear the shirt she was wearing but the way she was right to what the shirt was saying Bush should put a stop this war so troops could stop dying.
Hey Thomas.. notice how the Congressman’s wife’s T isn’t talking about Iraq? She said "defending OUR freedom", yet OUR FREEDOM was never in peril in Iraq.. so the Repugs don’t support you either..
Oh, wiat.. perhaps she meant defending the freedoms (and rights) of the rich elite in this country who get special treatment over the masses.. the ones getting filthy rich on the lives of the dead soldiers sent to fight an illegal and unjustified war.. Perhaps SHE -does- support you, cause you’re dying for a VERY TINY PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION here.. Not "America", but the rich elite who control and exploit it..
The trolls will never understand, never care, never concede.. mostly because they fancy themselves better than most everyone else too.. sick.. and wholy unAmerican..
The media bias is so bad!!! Is Cindy going to sue?
But Hey! Fitz is heating up. Every time he says anything it just gets worser and worser. No big explosions. Just little ankle bites that will never ever stop.
Brad,
You mention a slippery slope – Just now I came from Raw Story where the headlines are absolutly unreal.
WTF is up with this country?
Report: Cheney, Libby knew Niger story false before leak…
White House may have deleted leak emails…
US plotted to lure Iraq into war
Bush to request $120 billion more for Iraq war
Congressman subpoenaed for 9/11 trial
Claim: Jeb Bush shredding documents
Not to mention the other stories there – "Comcast profit falls staggering 69%", "Shocking 40% plunge for Anheuser-Busch"
Great State of the Union eh? "Our economy is strong!" Ya sure!
When will it ever end? Where has my country gone?!
The MSM isn’t covering a story that’s 100x more important than the Cindy Sheehan story: That there’s facts that prove Bush/Cheney lied to get us into the Iraq War. And rightwingers are too stupid to acknowledge this, because it’s "party before country". Let’s not forget how they got in there, too. They stole the election on electronic voting machines made by Republican-donor companies, who’s CEO promised Bush a victory on his machines. None of this is newsworthy to the MSM.
I banned CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS. I don’t even mention that I banned FOX News. FOX News, it’s assumed, is not news.
If you’re going to watch news on TV, I urge you to watch Democracy NOW! It’s unbiased and unfiltered—>what the rightwingers call "liberal". Their definition of "liberal news" is unbiased, unsuppressed, unfiltered news. That is not liberal, by the way. Liberal means to them, real and important news to the American public, that should be suppressed because it hurts their agenda.
If you get a chance, go back and compare the Wolf Blitzer interview of Harry Belafonte to Democracy NOW!’s interview of Harry Belafonte. They did something we haven’t seen in a long time on TV news: they let him speak and didn’t put words in his mouth.
Check out mediamatters.org for all the documented rightwing bias in the news, as if I had to tell you that. The problem is you’ll need a couple of hours a day to read through all the rightwing bias of just one day’s worth of news.
2 more days until the Patriot Act expires…I suggest everyone get it out now, the curtain is coming down, the plug will be pulled on the net soon, the end is near and for all the dispensationalists, get ready to be raptured….cause if you are left behind, sorry for you. M4
I wanted to not believe that they picked on the Congresswoman’s wife just because they knew they’d get in trouble if they didn’t, after picking on Sheehan.
I guess there’s very little room in politics for thinking the best of people’s motivations.
Nauseating.
I don’t care what you say, just don’t tell me that this poor woman’s right to free speech was violated.
This woman’s first amendment rights to free speech were clearly violated.
I Had A Dream . . . . . . I was in Nuremberg and They were:
* Polishing The Brass * Waxing The Woodwork * Shinning The Leather *
* Cleaning The Glass * Sweeping The Cells * Oiling The Locks *
In Preparation To Try . . . . . SHIT!!! I WOKE UP !
I like this woman
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/...wife_who.shtml
For anyone who’s not aware of it, Dan Abrams of MSNBC is the grandson of Norman Podhoretz, one of the co-founders of the neo-con movement.
Jo #13 Good Story Going to Bed.
Just watching The Daily Show. Stewart did a bit on Cindy’s arrest, then showed her hugging Hugo Chavez. Here’s a question for the group: Stewart claimed that Chavez suppresses political opposition and those who criticize him in the press are arrested. Does anyone have evidence for this, or was he being facetious? I’m a supporter of Chavez, but this could make me think differently.
Soul Rebel, #16
http://www.washingtonpost.com/w...2005Mar27.html
The media in Venezuela seems to be owned by the super-rich right wing… sort of like, everywhere else in the world.
See the documentary "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"
I’ve come to accept that south america is going to be ruled either by US friendly right-wing dictators, or popularly elected left-wing authoritarians.
Respectfully, I’ve invited a couple of guest commentators:
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress."…Mark Twain
"No poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making other bastards die for their country."…George S. Patton
Nothing new under the sun.
As with a number of other stories, BradBlog has correctly spotlighted an issue and "caught" the media and officials in mid-expression of bias against decent and honorable and law-abiding people. The fact remains this does nothing to alter the MSM’s behavior. I am particularly annoyed that the MSM does not respond. I remain awed by the lack of outrage here 30 yrs after Nixon. Nixon’s the One. Bush is the Two.
It is fashionable in the MSM to be fascist. They wanna be good and do what they are told. And in history they will plead "we were only obeying orders".
They will cover up, by failing to report, the big stories (link here), and cast a goodie goodie two shoes light on the neoCon fascist Bush regime.
The MSM and the Bush admin are partners in covering up crime (link here).
Kind of sad, actually. Representative Young could’ve risen above the muck.
http://1boringoldman.com/index....t-shirt-story/
Its all about profit for the few at the expense of the many
Peace and prosperity for all ? Pfffft
Absolutely right, Mickey. I half-expected him to stand up before Congress and say, "Two women were denied their rights last night in a shameful exercise of police censorship. Whichever side of the political aisle we’re on, we should stand together and decry the treatment of both women."
Instead, Young chose sides. His wife was a victim, but Cindy Sheehan wasn’t because "…I disagree with everything she stands for." In other words, civil liberties depend on politics only. What a jerk he is. At least it shows what we’re up against.
Sheehan tells the story the way it happened (link here) in her own words.
This is an incredible gestapo, fascist, neoCon pig smashing of freedom of speech.
She is suing the bastards, which is what she should do.
I think they picked on the wrong victim. Cindy isn’t rich herself, but she’s become so well known that lawyers should be lining up to help her on a contingency-fee basis. All that’s required is her own determination to sue, and she has said she will.
The admission of "We screwed up" settles the issue of facts. So any large settlement should be a question of showing malice. Brad is right that Cindy and Beverly Young were treated very differently (even though Beverly was verbally abusive and Cindy wasn’t). That’s one indication of malice on the part of the cops. Another is that Beverly wasn’t asked to leave until after Cindy was arrested (to create an appearance of balance). But the coup de grace could be the false story of "hanging a banner," which somebody fed the media and which CNN picked up on. Discovery should reveal who came up with that whopper.
This trial could be even more fun to follow that the class-action suits against Diebold. I suspect there’s more likelihood that Cindy’s case will go to trial, because too many people have too much to lose by not settling out of court with Diebold’s accusers. Maybe we can persuade Court TV to cover it.
Read this:
http://www.progressiveu.org/130...-union-fantasy
and this:
http://www.progressiveu.org/173...-america-right
and this:
http://www.progressiveu.org/110...-speech-update
and this:
http://www.progressiveu.org/201...-speech-part-2
Note the number of times the anti-Sheehan people spread lies and distortions!
Some are not even aware of how they’re making excuses for one all the while jumping down Cindy’s throat with media spin.
AND as nolies32fouettes points out…WHY did the media initially report the lies–"She unfurled a banner’–when they had absolutely no proof of such a thing?
Pre-emptive spinning!
Why did the media report that Cindy was trying to hang a banner? Because somebody fed them that information, and they believed it. I’d guess there’s a 10% chance it was an honest mistake, and 90% that it was a deliberate falsehood.
If the latter, Cindy’s lawyers should be able to use it as evidence that her treatment wasn’t a simple mistake, but a conscious effort to punish someone they don’t like who was excercising her rights. Bad idea, folks…it’s going to cost a lot.
27. because the man behind the curtain told them
When the media spits up the bile fed to them from -where ever-, they are guilty, in my mind. Their JOB is to get the FACTS.. REPORT news, not spew garbage because it’s "cost efficient".. that phrase has destroyed our Democracy and a once great nation..
Like I said, this boils down to the -fact- that some people in this country HONESTLY BELIEVE THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE REST.. They use "money" and "power" as the yard stick, measured in gold and fancy clothes.. why do you think gangsters dangle all that gold off their necks and teeth?? That mentality spans the entire spectrum, and is TRUELY unAmerican.. This country is about EQUALITY, yet we’re seeing policy following mindset. It’s pathetic, and exactly what Corperate America wants from us.. SPEND to LOOK important, nevermind you aren’t any better than the shit flinging monkies in the trees..
Remember when Bill Clinton want to stop the digital divide. I think he mean’t Class not just catv, sat or internet.
#24: Good comment. How often, do we not listen to the actual person’s words?
We listen to what liberals OR conservatives say ABOUT someone in question, but how often do we actually listen to that person’s words?
It’s like with Gore, when everyone was going around saying he’s nuts, when the rightwing media (you know, the MSM) diagnosed him as "nuts". Well, if you actually listen to one of Gore’s speeches, he’s a great speaker and makes sense, and speaks for the majority, not like Bush.
How often do we listen to what others say about someone, and not actually listen to that person’s words?
I think that people who hate Cindy Sheehan have never listened to one of her short speeches. They listen to what Limboob/O’liely/Hammity say about her. I bet not one of them actually listened to her own words coming from her own mouth. That’s what rightwing media (the MSM) is all about, getting to you before the actual person does, so you have a biased opinion against them before you even hear what they have to say.
Did you see? That the wiretaps have not led to one arrest?
They’re batting .000; they’re 0-wiretaps; they’re "o’fer"…
Sound familiar? How many detainees have actually been arrested?
Recurring theme, eh?
Bush "fouled out", too, in his SOTU speech, when he needed a home run.
I wanted to repost my response to Rodney’s #81 comment on the "Cindy Sheehan’s Unequal Treatment Under The Law" thread. Figured maybe there’d be more of a chance that he’ll read it here. For what it’s worth:
My late husband was an Air Force vet. I honor his service and I honor yours.
But I must respond to your statement:
"If we have another terrorist attack, the same people moaning and groaning now will be begging for the government to do something about it."
One of the major points made again & again on this blog & elsewhere has been that this administration HAS NOT adequately defended this country, IS NOT NOW adequately defending this country, and that this is beyond unconscionable. A truckload has been written on that subject.
Another major point is that this administration DID NOT provide proper armor for the troops it sent to war. When called on this hideous fact they lied about it. Again, much has been written on the subject.
We on the left are constantly called un-American, accused of being America-haters & of not supporting the troops.
Putting aside the fact that these charges are idiotic & infantile: yes, we are "moaning & groaning", as you put it, because we do not believe America is being served or protected by the people who swore an oath to do so–an oath to protect the country, its Constitution, its soldiers, its people & its principles.
It amazes me that we have to point out over & over that it is BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS COUNTRY & SUPPORT THE TROOPS that we believe those who swore that oath should live up to it.
Their policies, far from making us safer, have INCREASED the number of terrorists & INCREASED anti-Americanism in the world. They are also in the process of bankrupting the country. It is THEY who are betraying you, me & our soldiers while their corporate cronies rake in record profits.
It seems to me that covert surveillance is a legitimate part of defending a country. That’s just reality.
But it is now feared that the president’s apparently-illegal warrantless wiretapping may actually UNDERMINE future legal cases against terrorists and may result in the cases against them being thrown out.
Their actions are absolutely indefensible.
Big Dan,
"…if you actually listen to one of Gore’s speeches, he’s a great speaker and makes sense, and speaks for the majority, not like Bush."
Absolutely true!
When the "man/msm" saw that Howard Dean’s was making progess they spun the "yell" to pull the plug on him.
RLM #25
Agreed, she will be represented quite well.
If the neoCons are involved in the defense, they will probably say "democrats do it too" or "we took the freedom of speech away from Mrs. Young too".
Either way they loose and look dorky.
What would be great is if both of them sue for violation of their rights. That might focus it enough even for neoCons to understand … but I won’t hold my breath.
RLM states: "Why did the media report that Cindy was trying to hang a banner? Because somebody fed them that information, and they believed it. I’d guess there’s a 10% chance it was an honest mistake, and 90% that it was a deliberate falsehood.
Probably more like 100%, Robert.
AND………if it’s a crime to make a demonstration in YOUR congress, shouldn’t you FIRST have to make the demonstration to get arrested fot it?
Just being there with a t-shirt supporting a position, at the most, should only be grounds for removal from the hall (and probably not even that).
I believe BOTH women were wrongfully removed from the premises. Neither of them did anything, and had as much right to be in there as anybody else, with their t-shirts..
** $ $ $ tim russert Potato Head $ $ $ **
sorry
I hope Cindy sues to the full extent of the law!!!
The MSM isn’t covering a story that’s 100x more important than the Cindy Sheehan story: That there’s facts that prove Bush/Cheney lied to get us into the Iraq War. And rightwingers are too stupid to acknowledge this, because it’s "party before country". Let’s not forget how they got in there, too. They stole the election on electronic voting machines made by Republican-donor companies, who’s CEO promised Bush a victory on his machines.
Um, yeah, and haven’t you heard? There really was a second shooter on the grassy knoll, both Kerry and Bush rigged the election with Diebold, Inc. and the government is actually working in conjunction with the Illuminati-who are aliens, by the way-to continue our captivity in the "Matrix."
Sheesh, glad to see the twin pillars of lunatic-left fringe mentality are alive and well: projection and victimhood.
Er, and just for the record, Brad, Cindy Abu Al Sheehan never "gaver the life of her child in defense of this country" in the least. Casey Sheehan willfully disobeyed his mother’s request not to enlist in the armed forces. In fact, he not only enlisted, but he re-enlisted and then he volunteered for the very mission he would lose his life on, despite the warnings of extreme danger from his superiors.
So what did Abu Al Sheehan do with her son’s life? Quite simply, she disgraced it…and her divorce and public split with her immediate and extended family shows (not to mention their own publicly-issued statements) that she’s disgraced them, too.
And just to address this, " I took off my jacket because I was hot after climbing three whole flights of stairs," give me a break.
Do any of you leftist/socialists think she honestly had no intention of showing her shirt and trying to make yet another spectacle of herself on her handlers’ orders? If so, keep speaking out loudly because it’s people like you who are ensuring conservatives will stay in power for quite some time.
Thanks for letting voice my "free speech" rights. I’m sure they’ll be respected…um, right?
My advice……send emails and make phone calls to this Congressman Young….and Capital Police. Don’t let them off easy for discrimation against peaceful war protesters.
Sincerely,
John
Congressman Bill Young’s email address:
Bill.Young@mail.house.gov
phone:
in D.C. 202-225-5961
ST PETE 727-893-3191
LARGO 727-581-0980
Sincerely,
John Wright
Look at the picture of Rep. Bill Young and the t-shirt that led Capitol Police to ask his wife to leave the HR Gallery during the SOTU.
The shirt Beverly Young wore is a MAN’S shirt, it is OLD and even raggedy around the neck. It’s the shirt you would wear to clean your garage.
Are we supposed to believe that the wife of a GOP Rep. who loves Bush would wear a raggedy old man’s shirt–no matter what the message–to the SOTU where she would be applauding Bush?
NO WAY could this be true. So where did Beverly get the shirt and who asked her to put it on? We know she was asked to leave after Cindy’s arrest, but we need to know all details. This was another effort to minimize Cindy’s arrest. "You can’t complain Cindy, because a GOP woman was also asked to leave."
PITIFUL that the media and American public fell for this. Thanks for your courage Cindy. File charges for against the people who violated your right to free expresssion.
Look at the picture of Rep. Bill Young and the t-shirt that led Capitol Police to ask his wife to leave the HR Gallery during the SOTU.
The shirt Beverly Young wore is a MAN’S shirt, it is OLD and even raggedy around the neck. It’s the shirt you would wear to clean your garage.
Are we supposed to believe that the wife of a GOP Rep. who loves Bush would wear a raggedy old man’s shirt–no matter what the message–to the SOTU where she would be applauding Bush?
NO WAY could this be true. So where did Beverly get the shirt and who asked her to put it on? We know she was asked to leave after Cindy’s arrest, but we need to know all details. This was another effort to minimize Cindy’s arrest. "You can’t complain Cindy, because a GOP woman was also asked to leave."
PITIFUL that the media and American public fell for this. Thanks for your courage Cindy. File charges for against the people who violated your right to free expresssion.
Look at the picture of Rep. Bill Young and the t-shirt that led Capitol Police to ask his wife to leave the HR Gallery during the SOTU.
The shirt Beverly Young wore is a MAN’S shirt, it is OLD and even raggedy around the neck. It’s the shirt you would wear to clean your garage.
Are we supposed to believe that the wife of a GOP Rep. who loves Bush would wear a raggedy old man’s shirt–no matter what the message–to the SOTU where she would be applauding Bush?
NO WAY could this be true. So where did Beverly get the shirt and who asked her to put it on? We know she was asked to leave after Cindy’s arrest, but we need to know all details. This was another effort to minimize Cindy’s arrest. "You can’t complain Cindy, because a GOP woman was also asked to leave."
PITIFUL that the media and American public fell for this. Thanks for your courage Cindy. File charges for against the people who violated your right to free expresssion.
Thanks for your courage Cindy. File charges for against the people who violated your right to free expresssion.
You guys seem to be missing the crux of the matter entirely. You’re focusing on "free speech rights," but it’s quite clear that, just as "yelling fire in a crowded theatre" if there is no fire is not an exercise of free speech rights, it’s also not an exercise in free speech to protest in the Capitol building! That’s called "a misdemeanor crime." See, "crime" has the connotation of being "illegal," meaning "by law, you don’t have a ‘right’ to do what you’re doing."
There can be no doubt, that once the Abu Sheehan’s patron saint, Rep Lynn Woolsey (D-Islamofacist) announced to all the world that Sheehan would attend the SOTU address, all eyes protecting congress and POTUS were on her. There are many reasons for this which I will try to explain to you. You may not hear these reasons in your liberal history and government college classes. I’m going to bloviate and not be pithy.
1. Sheehan has called the POTUS a nazi, facist, murderer, thief, killer, terrorist and too many other names to mention here. She has also used these words to describe many members of Congress, both Republican and Democrat. This is considered threatening by most people with just a little common sense. It is the responsibility of the Secret Service and the Capitol Police to protect the POTUS amd members of congress. Now if you have any sense at all, and know you are being watched due to past actions and words, you put on your best behavior for those watching you.
2. She has called for the destruction of Israel by the Muslim world. She does this while calling members of Congress and the POTUS "nazis." This isn’t even rational. An irrational person is considered a possible threat, hence she was being closely watched.
3. She has called the insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq "freedom fighters". This, under our laws, is considered giving aid and comfort to the enemy. In the countries she supports, she would be arrested and probably executed for doing this.
4. She is a member of and supporter of Code Pink, an organization that promotes and helps members of the U. S. Military avoid their sworn duty to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foriegn and domestic. This act alone is punishable by 10 years in prison and fines, per U. S. Code. Look it up.
I don’t want to overload you with research here so I’ll let you go verify what I have stated. Google will veryify all of it.
Free speech? She has exploited it to the point of committing felony. But she isn’t in jail, or even charged with any of these felonious acts.
Free speech doesn’t mean you have the right to attempt to distract the president during the SOTU speech. Remember, free speech means you have the right to speak your mind. It doesn’t mean you have the right to make any one person listen to you.
FROM LARK NEWS: another tee shirt/free speech story.
TAMPA, Fla. — When Bradley Macon wore a "Jesus is my homeboy" shirt to Jefferson High school in October, the vice principal demanded he go home and change it during lunch. The t-shirt violated a new school policy which bans religious t-shirts deemed "potentially inflammatory in our diverse community."
Undeterred, Macon and several other Christian students created a design that effectively circumvents the ban. The new t-shirts declare "I love Cheeses," which, when spoken, is almost undistinguishable from "I love Jesus."
"We had to get creative," says Macon. "I doubt they’ll try to ban shirts that advertise dairy products."
The fight has been simmering since the ban took effect in August. Many Christian teens were cited for wearing "His Pain, Your Gain" and "God’s Gym"-style t-shirts.
"It was like living in France or something," says one Christian student.
But the "I love Cheeses" design seems to have given the teens a victory. The t-shirts have become a rallying point in the community. Parents wear them around town. Kids sell them as a Bible club fundraiser at school. On any given day at Jefferson High School, a dozen or more kids sport "cheese" attire. When asked about the shirts, wearers eagerly share their faith in Jesus.
"There’s not much we can do [about the cheese shirts]," says the vice principal, who pledges to keep combating overt forms of religious sloganeering.•
Progressive Thinker,
A couple of things:
Re your statement:
‘She [Cindy Sheehan] has called for the destruction of Israel by the Muslim world.’
Can you provide the quote where she says that? I’ve done several searches through Google & have not found anything like that so far, other than references to her being supposedly funded by people or groups who might advocate such.
Re:
‘See, "crime" has the connotation of being "illegal," meaning "by law, you don’t have a ‘right’ to do what you’re doing.’
What is your position on the president breaking the law to spy on Americans?
Please note: I’m not asking for your position on the spying per se, but on his breaking existing law to do it.
And are you aware that evidence gathered through this program may undermine future legal cases against terrorists?
Re:
‘She has called the insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq "freedom fighters". This, under our laws, is considered giving aid and comfort to the enemy.’
I find it far, far more dangerous for the United States that this administration’s policies and their ineptitude in the handling of Iraq–like leaving weapons caches unsecured & failing to secure Iraq’s borders–have incalculably increased both anti-Americanism & the number of terrorists dedicated to killing us.
This, my friend, is giving far more aid and comfort to the enemy than anything Cindy Sheehan has said or done.
#13
Jo,
Thanks for that link to the article about Rep. Young’s wife Beverly. She seems like a person who might actually listen to reason if approached in the right way. Her actions with wounded soldiers seem genuine & I like her feisty, fearless attitude toward "authority".
Of course, it’s easy to be feisty & fearless when you live in a coccoon of protection & privilege.
I suspect that people such as Mrs. Young do not spend their time researching the truth; they trust what they’ve grown up trusting & try to do the right thing on a personal level. I think this is the kind of person who might be receptive (eventually) to the right kind of overture.
Anyone know how she might be contacted?
Progressive thinker? You’re neither.
Cindy Sheehan & her T shirt were The State OF THE UNION !
Cindy’s T shirt Contained More * Truth * and More * Facts*
than bush and we can’t Have That ! The Moron was Upstaged !
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