READER COMMENTS ON
"PAPER: Ann Coulter Commits Vote Fraud Felony!"
(36 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 12:42 pm PT...
Yep, like I said on my post on the other thread -
Karma can be SUCH a bitch!
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 12:52 pm PT...
Dr. Arthur Anderson
Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections
240 SOUTH MILITARY TRAIL
WEST PALM BEACH, FL 33415
P.O. BOX 22309
WEST PALM BEACH, FL 33416-2309
Anybody got an email address? The page went down as I tried to access it again, must be getting 6 or 7 interested parties trying to access it all at once.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 1:03 pm PT...
BTW, I believe this is the same Dr. Anderson that is pushing for election reform and verifiable paper trails.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 1:07 pm PT...
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 2:05 pm PT...
NOT FUNNY! There are women, people, all over the United States who are disenfranchised by the need to keep stalkers from finding them. Whether or not you think this pig deserves to feel safe when she makes others so unsafe, there are legions of battered wives who can't vote unless they use a wrong address... damned if they do and damned if they don't.
DON'T START CROWING ABOUT THIS. It's a serious problem.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 2:22 pm PT...
Agent 99, no one is dismissing or making light of the real issue of privacy protection against those who would abuse someone's personal info.
i'm sure that Coulter has a reasonable explanation for putting down the wrong address, in the wrong precinct, on her offical voter registration card. the thing is, that's a felony.
stalking and abuse are valid reasons --- i don't begrudge anyone needing protection, even Coulter, even tho she doesn't return the consideration to anyone else --- but surely there are other alternatives than committing a felony for protection.
anyone out there familiar with Florida statute under such circumstances?
i wonder if it would have helped if she had simply voted in the precinct to which she was registered.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 2:23 pm PT...
Well that's it then...
Lock her up and throw away the key, she finally crossed that threshold to be prosecuted.
Make sure the damn outfit fits......Indict and convict these bastards one at a time, three at a time, it doesn't matter. All of them get the same treatment and roughing.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 2:43 pm PT...
Sorry, agent99, this is just TOO good to pass up. This woman(?), so full of hate, such a glib Nazi bitch.....she deserves far worse than what might come from this petty felony. I hope the MSM locks onto her ass. Like they've locked onto Cheney's ass. Gee, it seems as though a guy can't drink, womanize (that wasn't his wife) and hunt man without the press getting all over him. Boo hoo. How about spending $70M tax dollars on Clinton's witchhunt and taking glee in every mention of Monica? Hypocritical, crybaby bastards. That's the GOP for you.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 2:58 pm PT...
IF she is even prosecuted she'll just pay the $5,000 since she is wealthy.
Is this an either or felony where she can get the fine and jail or gets the fine or jail, but not both?
If she lives in a house that expensive $5,000 would mean nothing.
I can't believe anyone gives this hate-filled woman the time of day yet the Republicans love the wretch.
I've always felt it is best to ignore here rather than pay attention. Once she can't get attention she is no longer a force to be reckoned with.
Yes, the Rs will still love her, but she can't get the Dems riled if we just ignore her. Well, except for this incident when we need to pound her on it.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 3:05 pm PT...
Ok, here's a voice of defense (ack, I never thought I'd be defending Ann .... but hold on its for a good reason!).
Usually when you go to vote, if you're not on their list for some reason, they want you to PROVE where you live, and the most used way to do this is to use US postal mail with your name and address. Since she was forwarding her mail through that address, its understandible that to avoid hassle she would just go to the precinct for the address she had been using. That doesn't make it RIGHT, mind you, but its understandable.
Now the REASON we should defend Ann is this: She's one of the better weapons the Left has. When she opens her mouth she does more damage to the right in terms of PR than encyclopedias of facts about how bad the republicans are. The fact that they don't tie her down and leave her outside in the cold is one of their worst PR moves. We need to keep Ann alive and kicking in the republican spotlight just to demonstrate how ludicrous their party's views are.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 3:40 pm PT...
Agent99 - re: #5
Are you forgetting that this is the same woman who posted Lydia Cornell's personal information, including her home address, on the front page of her website? Are you forgetting that Ms. Cornell requested that she remove that information because she and her family were getting harrassed, including receiving death threats? Are you aware that Coulter REFUSED to remove that information?
It's Karma - you get what you give. And there isn't enough time left in her pitiful little life for her to reap all the hate she has sown and the violence she has encouraged.
If Ann Coulter was that worried about anyone finding out where she lived, she should have just declined to vote. She's not exactly concerned with women's rights in that area:
"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 - except Goldwater in '64 - the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted." - Ann Coulter, May 17, 2003.
"I think [women] should be armed but should not vote...women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it...it's always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care." - Ann Coulter, Politically Incorrect, February 26, 2001.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 4:12 pm PT...
Kestrel #11.... I'm not forgetting. Your quotes explain why the sex change operation. DOESN'T MAKE IT OKAY TO IGNORE HER SAFETY. Applauding her getting some of her own back is a way of perpetuating her hate, AND I'm here to tell you, being stalked is SO radically unfun. In California, probably everywhere, you can get six months' anonymity if you jump through a thousand hoops. The fascists want your physical address for EVERYTHING, and too often it is public information. THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET WHO CAN FIND UNLISTED PHONE NUMBERS, ADDRESSES, EVERYTHING, ON ANYONE THEY WANT.
I was a babe cubed in my youth, and had a TOTAL stranger after me, whom the cops wouldn't help with because there was no pattern. I had to move FIVE times, and disenfranchise myself to FINALLY elude the man. IT'S TERRIFYING.
You want to have a better world, don't sink to Coulter's level.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 4:19 pm PT...
Sorry, just hang it by its nads and get it over with
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 4:52 pm PT...
I would love if John Stewart covered the "Raghead" comment. I mean THAT in itself would be devastating to the GOP. Combine that with the Clinton comments, the "women shouldn't vote" comments and she would be begging to crawl into a hole and die. Anyone know how to contact John?
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
Thor likes Pizza
said on 2/15/2006 @ 6:15 pm PT...
Sadly, nothing will come of this.
Voting laws are made to stop poor folk from voting.
Like the rest of her posse, she is above the law.
And, like time mag says, she's just an agitprop gadfly...
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 6:39 pm PT...
Agent 99 - With all due respect, you're reading something into what I typed that isn't there. I'm not sinking to her level. I didn't say I want her dead, or hurt, or anything else - if I did, I'd have posted HER contact information. I just want her to know that she's not above the law.
I admit it, I'd be happy to see her on the front page in an orange jumpsuit - she is one of those people who seriously needs to be humbled. But, I'd rather see her forced to do community service as part of her punishment for breaking the law - picking up trash along the road, or cleaning toilets at a homeless shelter.
She committed a felony, and she should be held responsible. Why shouldn't she face the same consequences that you or I would if we did the exact same thing?
And yes, I know firsthand about stalkers, in fact I'm sure most women do, to one degree or another. I know how frightening it is to look over your shoulder constantly, to check the cars in the parking lot when you leave work, to answer the phone in the middle of the night and get a "click", and wonder if it's him, to have to explain to a child that the day might come when he meets someone who asks questions about his mom and that he should never EVER give out any information, not even his last name or her maiden name, or what town he lives in.
In light of that, I would never, EVER intentionally put someone else in danger. And I would NEVER post another woman's personal phone number or address (or man's either for that matter), because I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Coulter doesn't feel that way. It doesn't bother her one bit to put someone else in danger - in fact, she ENCOURAGES violence against people she doesn't like. She thought it was funny that Lydia Cornell was getting phone calls and death threats. Makes it really hard to feel any sympathy towards her for being frightened herself - or to even BELIEVE that she's ever had to deal with a stalker.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 6:52 pm PT...
Guilty of a felony.
So, what's justice for Ann?
How about loss of voting rights, $1 fine and 100 days of public community work while wearing garish orange jumpsuits?
Taking up her time with the community service would possibly cost her much more in lost speaking engagement events. And, the video of her suffering in public would be pretty good.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 7:10 pm PT...
I'm sorry, guys, I'm just so sick of all the hate, all the fascistic practices, the rapid-fire offenses to decency, the torture, the war, the dismemberment, the shot-filled pusses, the cancer drugs that cost $100,000.00 a year because they keep you alive, the data mining, the pernicious spam, that I JUST FLIP WHEN I THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHOSE CHOICE IS: BE FELONS TO BE CITIZENS, OR BE LAW-ABIDING AND NOT BE CITIZENS. Doesn't have anything to do with this scum-bucket. We need to be thinking of each others' welfare. That means dropping our attitudes. No other way. The "blame game" isn't any fun. We all know who the offenders are. Are we going to fix our country, or not?
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 7:37 pm PT...
mAnn Coulter 's house in palm beach ( well one of his / her houses ) is worth 1.1 million dollars !
To the fools who buy into mAnn Coulter's Hate speech I say Only in America !
The skank does not believe women should vote ! Than again it is a man baby !
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 2/15/2006 @ 8:09 pm PT...
Could this be karma? Heh. Her hate mongering doesn't get her but her own self. Too much. And no I'm not expecting that "voting rights" group to get on it. Maybe to defend her if they do. Heh.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 2/16/2006 @ 3:50 am PT...
For Agent 99: Vote fraud is not the proper remedy for being stalked by someone. A woman can maintain two legal addresses in the same district, and vote from whichever one she chooses.
Ann Coulter did not do this. She used an address in a different voting district. That is fraud.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 2/16/2006 @ 5:03 am PT...
There is a law in florida called the homestead exemption law. This law allows you to deduct $25,000.00 from the assesed value of your primary residence (where you actually live) . This is also the only primary you are to vote in.
My question is did she commit a felony fraud on the tax owed on her home by voting in another precint?
While attending classes in another county from my homestead I was advised by the local voting authorities I should vote by absentee ballot from my residence of record for my homestead.
Perhaps an atorney versed in florida election law and homestead exemption could post an answer to this.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 2/16/2006 @ 6:21 am PT...
Wonder if my Fair Ann considered absentee voting. (My boss was right. The typos on this blog are worth the effort to register. Thank you, Ds & Rs both, for the chuckle.)
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 2/16/2006 @ 6:28 am PT...
Doug E ... so do you know a democrat ("the other side of the isle") who "did the same thing", and therefore makes this ok?
Or should we just keep it simple and punish those who do wrong for the wrong they did?
That would be the American way, to punish the guilty rather than the innocent.
Vote out the republicans for the grevious and historical wrongs they have done.
In November of this very year!
And send The Bitch into the prison to visit all the neoConvicts who are being sent there.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 2/16/2006 @ 12:43 pm PT...
M'ann coulter's Dogma has rabies .. .. .. Don't let her bite you .. .. .. .. ..
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 2/16/2006 @ 2:56 pm PT...
"Or should we just keep it simple and punish those who do wrong for the wrong they did?"
Dredd, you still don't get it. There's neocons in both sides. The DLC is a cancerous virus. Getting rid of the machines eliminates a huge part of them all, but not all.
I really don't care if you vote them out at all. What I said was the democrats are infected and there's going to be indictments, and ultimately independents need to take these seats all over.
The democrats have the exact same shit, on a less severe scale ( or more severe, in the case of Illinois) and their people are not good either. Make it what you want, but both have to go (DLC + repbulican)
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 2/16/2006 @ 5:40 pm PT...
Dredd, I'd suggest stopping the holding onto a "party".. When the "party" has someone like Hackett step down so they an "run their agenda", there's a problem.. The Dems -barely- care about "us" more than Repugs.. just enough to try and capture votes.
You keep on about how they have no power, so none of this is their fault.. but Reid showed he HAS POWER.. they can DISRUPT THE PROCESS DAILY, but they don't... why? they worry about their "image" and what might be said if they try to force change and resolutions.. They aren't willing to do their jobs (earnestly) any more than the Pugs are.
We need to get RID of this 2 party system.. it's a joke, and a travesty to the citizens of this country. Our entire political system is in shambles, and it's because of our limited choices, and having been brainwashed into believing "we only have 2 options".. That false dichotomy serves the Dems as much as the Pugs.. and it's a dead philosophy..
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 2/16/2006 @ 8:12 pm PT...
I could care less about security issues. If I can afford a "1.8 million dollar crib" (by the way - thanks for helping that become a reality), I probably have enough security to stop a team of charging elephants. No need to worry about little ole me!
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of you for listening so closely and making me so well-known to all out there who don't know who I am.
Keep listening! Keep reporting (I am sure everyone is taking you seriously)! Also, make sure you pay extra attention to me within the next year as my new book will be coming out (I just love publicity).
I really and truly could not do any of this without you wonderful folks!
P.S. Special thanks to Senator John Kerry for attacking me on the Senate floor three weeks ago! If this kind of publicity keeps up, I'll be spending the winter in my beach house in Acapulco!
P.P.S. Boy liberals sure are smart!
P.P.P.S. Madonna, eat your heart out!
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 2/16/2006 @ 10:59 pm PT...
For Dredd and Savantser: The strongest argument for continuing to support Democrats is that any third-party movement, no matter how desperately needed, will struggle for money and press attention.
And, as bad as they are, Democrats on the whole are a lot less bad than Republicans. Pragmatically, it sounds right to elect Democrats first, then try to get them to reform their ways afterwards.
They won't reform. That's the problem. I have no doubt that they'd be stealing elections themselves,
taking bribes from lobbyists (just different ones than Abramoff), ignoring antitrust laws in the name of global competition, doing nothing about immigration reform (so as not to tick off Hispanic voters), and arguing among themselves about Iraq.
Here's what would make me change my mind, Dredd: If Howard Dean issued a 2006 position paper, stating clearly the DNC's commitment to barring all electronic voting (which it hasn't done), its commitment to new and severe restrictions on lobbyists (which it hasn't done), its determination to either enforce immigration laws or pass new ones (which it hasn't done), its respect for the Sherman Antitrust Act (which it never talks about, as megacorporate power expands via mergers), and setting out a clear exit strategy for Iraq.
In other words, Dredd, let the Democrats first show us they deserve our support, not just that they're lass awful than Republicans. Then I'll join you.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
said on 2/17/2006 @ 10:48 am PT...
RLM at #29.. One of the reasons I don't normally vote is I don't adhere to the "pick the lessor of 2 evils" dogma. It's a philosophy that causes us more trouble in the long run. This mess needs to be fixed, and unless and until the "masses" change their tune, it won't.
I agree completely that 3rd party and independants will have "problems getting funding", until we -change- the system. That is, we need to get a message out there via local governments (state, etc) that we want to clean up and expand this faux 2 party system. We need "real people" to make runs for state govs, then put in laws like they have in (bah.. CT? MD? someplace where the state pays some for campaigns) and keep "business" contributions out, and perhaps tell the TV stations they have to afford 2 slots each candidate each day/week to run their comercials.. something.
The -biggest- problem with our system is exactly the roadblock you point out. Big Business buys candidates and the 2 party system is happy to take that cash (at the national level). It's a joke and destroying our country.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 2/17/2006 @ 12:03 pm PT...
Who she too will fall...just like King George and his un-royal court God is watching!
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
said on 2/19/2006 @ 9:52 pm PT...
As one of your neighbours from north of the border, I must admit that your government is totally out of control and in need of a major overhaul. You DO need a system like ours with more than two parties to chose from, plus, paper ballots..........those voting machines HAVE to go.
There was a time when I envied you folks living in such a well respected country with places like the beautiful southwestern desert with its natural beauty, or the wild, windswept coasts of northern California and Oregon, but now........no way...!! You have a madman at the helm as you well know who has damaged your reputation greatly along with his corrupt minions, not to mention Ms Coulter who continues to spill her green vile all over the media.
It's going to take honest, smart, caring people like yourself to make their mark in history and hopefully start a peaceful, honest 'revolution' in order to regain your rightful place amongst the worlds top nations.
Look what happened with the seniors in Russia when Putin took their free bus passes away. They took to the streets in the millions waving flags in peaceful protest. Result......within hours, Putin had re-instated the passes. He was probably quaking in fear of his safety with the public outcry he had created.
I'm a firm believer in the "power of the people"........people can move mountains if necessary. Good luck American brothers........you have a long way to travel, but every journey starts with a single step. It's comforting to see there are people out there doing their best to make those steps happen. The free world needs decent, honest leaders.
If I had any clout, RLM......I would nominate YOU for president, with Brad as your VP....!!!!
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:29 am PT...
Mar, I'm going to save that wonderful compliment for my four granchildren to ponder after I'm gone. Thanks very much indeed.
I'm not a candidate for president, by the way. Back in the late 19th century a Civil War hero, William Tecumseh Sherman, was hounded to run for president. He wanted no part of politics, but his supporters wouldn't quit. Finally he said, "If nominated, I'll not run...if elected, I'll not serve."
That's about the way I feel myself, even though you're the first person who ever suggested I could be a candidate. I've volunteered to write speeches for Clint Curtis, whose campaign for Congress in Florida promises to blow the lid off the last two crooked elections because of what he knows. Stay tuned, and thanks again for the wonderful support.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
said on 2/20/2006 @ 10:50 am PT...
You are very welcome for the compliment, it is well deserved IMHO...!! I am aware that there are others at Brad Blog who, like yourself, are fighting tooth and nail to correct as many of your governments failings as possible and I wish every one of you, all the luck in the world........hang in there...!!
Here, north of the border, we finally booted out our government after many years of corrupt elected officials who often fed at the public trough with no conscience whatsoever. The icing on the cake would be to see charges laid and have the guilty brought to justice. Hope everyones efforts here at BB have the same results in your country.
I DID see your post where you offered your speech writing talents to Mr. Curtis. Hope he takes you up on your offer. What a courageous person he is indeed going out on a limb with his information in this day and age, but it's like anything else, it's the pioneers that will change the fabric of your nation and restore much needed sanity to your government. Good luck to you all, and you can be sure I WILL be staying tuned.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
said on 2/22/2006 @ 7:58 am PT...
How the US Congress works
"the Senate divides its tasks among 20 committees, 68 subcommittees, and 4 joint committees" ...
"The chair of each committee and a majority of its members represent the majority party. The chair primarily controls a committee’s business" (link here).
How many democrats, independents, greens, etc. chair committees in the senate or the house? Zero.
Therefore, republicans are where the power and the accountability of congress lies, and they will make the port decision.
Both the White House and the Congress are republican controlled. All the Cabinet is republican.
Clue: The chair of each senate committee is republican and a majority of each committee's members are republican. The republican chair primarily controls all senate committee business of all senate committees.
It's a republican thang.
Clue #2: Whether the minority is composed of independents, greens, or democrats they have zero committee chairs, zero committee membership majorities, and zero committee control.
Will you be CONvinced ...
... OR ...
SUPPORT CLINT CURTIS
The legal structure of our congress does not support a multi-party system, and is designed really for a two party system. This is not good.
Under the law of the House and Senate, "the Senate divides its tasks among 20 committees, 68 subcommittees, and 4 joint committees" ... "The chair of each committee and a majority of its members represent the majority party. The chair primarily controls a committee’s business" (link here).
Take an example where republicans win 30 seats, independents win 28 seats, greens win 29 seats, and democrats win 13 seats. We can now easily see that this will not work well.
The republicans with 30 seats end up as the majority party. Remember that the majority party and the majority are not the same thing in our example. The majority is 70 votes (greens, indys, and dems), but the majority party is 30 republican seats.
Therefore, they get the committee chair on each committee, and they get the majority number of members in each committee.
So, in our system, the majority of seats would be governed by the minority 30 seats.
Anyone see any way to improve this?
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
said on 6/25/2006 @ 12:16 pm PT...