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"Atlanta Progressive News covers McKinney Vote-Flipping Claim"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 12:53 pm PT...
This November, we must quiz our candidates (even the BEST of them like McKinney) as to whether or not their Website Managers are part of their "inner circle" and present at their team meetings AND on-staff through the month after the election.
McKinney was GREAT yesterday in keeping updates on her website (at least until around 3:30 p.m. Atlanta time) and since then --- NO NEW NEWS!!!
Even the BEST of our BEST still don't GET it. The IT they don't get is that we are sick of relying on the MSM to tell us ANYTHING and we are looking for our news (as well as our commentary) from ONLINE sources.
I'm glad McKinney is fighting. I hope she brings a lot of the problems to light NOW, rather than us having to wait until November.
McKinney is no Busby or Hackett or Kerry --- she's going to fight!
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 1:19 pm PT...
What gets me is that Raw Story hasn't even picked up on the vote switching. The 3:30 report at Cyntia's website also mentioned a number of other ways the election was being played, but nothing about it at Raw or other outlets I thought would have jumped on it.
Raw had a number of links to articles from other outlets, but nothin - nothing about the problems (fraud).
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 1:29 pm PT...
Why don't you send them an email and ask them to cover this? I would do so myself, but since I am the one who posted the blog item, maybe it wouldn't look right.
It might look like I was trying to publicize myself, or the blog, rather than the story.
Maybe we need 6 or 7 people sending them email.
Anybody got an address for them?
Just kidding: click here: email@example.com
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 1:48 pm PT...
Wayne Madsen had something up early yesterday about some "election engineering" that was taking place in McKinney's district. I thought I should share that info with the Atlanta Craigslist, to at least alert some CL progressives to what was going on. The title that I used was something about election fraud, voter intimidation and vote suppression, and the reason I mention that is that I just changed it to reflect the screen shot info that I took down last night, at 8:15p and 11:15 p pacific std. time.
I added the comment that it seemed on the up and up that she didn't get over 50%, but I should have checked the Bradblog, and I will remove that. No one responded to my post anyway. Here is what it looks like now, and the formatting of the vote tallies are a mess...you will have to use an analytical eye to figure out the columns...
Screen shots of the votecount at 11:30pm, and 2:15am (Th.)
Reply to: firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: 2006-07-18, 2:35PM EDT
8:30 pm (pst)
U.S. Representative, District 4
83% of precincts reporting
Coyne3,791 Johnson20,135 McKinney21,249
8.4% 44.6% 47.0%
County PR TP
DEKALB 114 135 2,777 17,594 19,219
GWINNETT 18 24 334 746 656
ROCKDALE 13 16 680 1,795 1,374
11:15 pm (pst)–
U.S. Representative, District 4
98% of precincts reporting
Coyne5,214 Johnson 27,075 McKinney 28,505
8.6% 44.5% 46.9%
County PR TP
DEKALB 134 135 4,009 24,042 26,093
GWINNETT 22 24 369 839 822
ROCKDALE 15 16 836 2,194 1,590
~~Haven't checked the final tally, but with hardly any change in the percentage of the vote for each candidate, over a 3 hour period, I suppose it is probable that McKinney didn't break 50%.
Anyone monitor this primary and notice signs of election fraud?
Please relay this information to Democrats and other Progressives you know who are concerned with the destruction of our democracy by the corrupt elements of the GOP!! This is from www.waynemadsenreport.com, and he is a very reputable source on a number of areas of BushCo's shenanigans.
July 18, 2006 --- Georgia's Democratic primary is today. Already, problems with Diebold machines are being reported from Georgia's Fourth District, where Rep. Cynthia McKinney is facing a primary challenge. This is reminiscent of 2002 when McKinney was defeated in the primary because of documented election fraud. WMR urges its readers in the Georgia Fourth to get out the vote for McKinney and document any incidents of fraud or voter intimidation, including that from police or people claiming to be "state officials."
Diebold: Election engineers at it again today in Georgia Fourth District.
WMR has received this report from the McKinney campaign:
"At one Rockdale precinct, reportedly a single Diebold machine malfunction affected the performance of the entire sequence of machines assigned to that precinct. Additionally, one machine didn't have a plug and sat idle. In addition, workers were not adequately trained on the use of the electronic poll books, resulting in unnecessary voter frustration. When one McKinney voter realized too late that her intended vote had been switched by the voting machine to a McKinney opponent, the polling place official's response was "she needs to let us know next time before she casts her ballot."
"Election engineering" has become the new method for the elites and oligarchs to remain in power under the guise of "democracy." Election engineering occurred in Mexico, Ohio, Florida, and today, we see a repeat in Georgia. It is time for Diebold machines to be thrown into a huge pile and set ablaze.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 3:24 pm PT...
This ain't "engineering."
I know; it's just a common linguistic trick.
But these events are part of an attempt to subvert the Constitution. A different label would be better.
Or am I over-reacting?
Abacus worked on cutting-edge information systems, military and domestic, for fifty years so maybe is a bit unbalanced...But the appalling incompetence of e-voting machine design and the obvious conflicts of interest between funding regressives and making machines for citizens to vote on is sickening.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 5:08 pm PT...
Treason. Good word. I'm getting sick of the benefit of the doubt for MSM, voter fraud, and supporting Israel in it's war crimes. Thank you winter patriot for caring for the McKinny vote. She and Jon Conyers are my leaders. I'm glad Howard Dean is giving his support. I appreciate anybody who will stand up for our country.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 7:43 pm PT...
I've mentioned this before, but I think there is a lack of coverage of "defaults" on e-vote machines. "Catch all" votes registered. There should be no defaults. What are the defaults programmed into e-vote machines for an election? Is that public knowledge, what the default votes are? Why is there even such thing as "defaults"??? That doesn't make sense, the word "defaults" implies non-votes are registered. That isn't right. There is really a lack of coverage on this, and maybe is has something to do with "vote flipping". How come they just don't trash a machine, when someone sees it flipping votes? What happens? They just say, "Well, too bad, it voted FOR you , and not what YOU wanted. Too Bad!!!" What exactly happens, in real time, if someone in the middle of voting, calls over to an official and says, "Hey, Bub, I keep voting for McKinney, and it is registering a vote for the other guy." What exactly happens when someone calls attention to this? What do they say to the voter??? I would smash the machine, if that happened to me.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 7/19/2006 @ 8:35 pm PT...
I've been away for a while, but I see that Raw Story now has something up about this. It looks like they posted it today just before 7:00 pm Eastern time.
Now 4 1/2 hours later it is already way down near the bottom of their page.
Anybody know if it was ever at the top of the page?
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 7/20/2006 @ 5:54 am PT...
If Cynthia McKinney is being robbed by flipped votes, and there's every reason to believe she is, the test will be the same one applied to Kerry/Bush in 2004, except it was called a "conspiracy theory" by people who chose to ignore the laws of probability.
"How many complaints of McKinney votes being flipped to her opponent are there, and how many of votes being flipped the other way?" If a machine "malfunctions," which is the normal spin from election officials and the media, then it should malfunction without favoring one candidate or the other. If all or nearly all the complaints are by McKinney voters, it's a slam dunk that she's being cheated. The laws of probability aren't waived for elections, and McKinney is bold enough and voluble enough to make the point understood.
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said on 10/3/2006 @ 5:45 pm PT...
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