READER COMMENTS ON
"Brilliant letter from Luminaries on the Mid East Conflict"
(28 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 7/25/2006 @ 9:40 pm PT...
German Fascism brought to America by Prescott Bu$$h,..
now his son G.H.W.Bu$$h (Poppy)and his grandson
G.W. Bu$$h (Chimpy) fully integrated fascism into
the American political system.
The Carlyle Group, a private massive equity firm, the 12th largest defense business with an obscenely high profit margin, is a business "arrangement" between the Bush and Bin Laden families, wealthy Saudis, former British Prime Minister John Major, James Baker III, Afsaneh Masheyekhi, Frank Carlucci, Colin Powell, other former US Government administrators, and Madeleine Albright’s daughter. The Carlyle Group is the ‘gatekeeper’ to the Saudi investment community. It owns 70 percent of Lockheed Martin Marietta, the largest military contractor in the US, and because Carlyle is privately owned, has no scrutiny or accountability whatsoever. A journalist who calls himself ‘a skunk at the garden party’ described investigating the Carlyle Group, he said ‘it’s like shadow boxing with a ghost’. The Group hires as lobbyists the best known politicians from around the world, in order to influence the politics of war, and privately profit from their previous public policies. The conflict of interest is obvious: President George W. Bush is creating wars as his father, former President George Bush, is globally peddling weapons and "protection". Lockheed Martin Marietta now owns Sandia Laboratories, a private contractor that makes the trigger for nuclear weapons, with a Sandia laboratory facility across the street from Los Alamos and Livermore National Laboratories, where the nuclear bombs are made.
History of The Carlyle Group - (from a Dutch television documentary,.. starts out in Dutch but then
translated to English with Dutch subtitles.
Dutch video link. (Real Player)
Link to source.
(Persia)-Iran, et al,...
Only under the guise of,..
CHRISTIAN (?) SOLDIERS,...
MARCHING OFF TO WAR,...
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 7/25/2006 @ 11:13 pm PT...
Thank you for the TRUTH, Mr. and Mrs. Tom WillIams.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 12:16 am PT...
Yes,.. yes,.. Thank you for sharing the posting here.
The dynamics of how Israel and the United States of America are acting in unison to redraw the Middle East
for their own selfish gains,.. the ultimate result will
lead to explosive hellfire.
As the second paragraph of the Williams posting indicated,.. Israel is out to control the water
resources,.. to bring precious drinking and crop irrigation water under her control.
In Israel/Palestine,.. Israel now controls 80% of the water,.. the dwindling Palestinian share now equals 20%. The "safety 20ft concrete wall" cuts into the
Palestinian lands,.. notice how the wall goes in a
odd zigzag design ? This is done with the specific intentions to bring the water resources over to the Israel side of the wall. Israel then bottles the water they stole from the Palestinian,.. and then turns around and sells the bottled water to them. Palestinian orchards and farm land,.. Israel puts that good farm land behind their wall. If that is impracticable,.. Israel bulldozes the
rich top soil,.. loads it on to large trucks,.. spreads it on Israel land,.. and then puts up the concrete wall.
This water resource grab,.. there are clear indications Israel wants to grab the drinking water and farm irrigation water from Lebanon too.
It is like America's natural resource grab - OIL -
what is my oil doing under your desert sands ?
Israel - what is my water doing in you aquifers and wells. Resource acquisition,.. not by checkbook,.. but by the muzzle of a gun.
article - Israel employs brute-force to secure water resources.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 12:43 am PT...
wondering does anyone know what Chomsky thinks about US election security?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 1:21 am PT...
American experimental weapons programs,..
from the drawing board,.. into the battlefield.
May explain American hubris,.. willingness for war.
Direct Energy Weapons Systems
*hi-power microwave weapons
*low & hi power laser weapons
(I'll bet the Pentagon,.. bu$$hco is anxious to
field test these nasty weapons.)(hooo-rah)
Italian Documentary/video link [windows media player format]
These Fascists must be stopped at the polling booth.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 7:01 am PT...
The stealing of water resources from Lebanon is a interesting point. I just recently looked at the Lebanon/Isreal border on Google satalite maps. The Isreali side is full of lush, green, agricultural fields, the Lebanon side is a brown, barren wasteland in comparision.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 8:24 am PT...
And, by supporting the "thugs" over there, we're encouraging the terrorists to come over here..
yet, the American People still keep their heads in the sand and pretend we're "innocent bystanders being attacked for no reason"..
Poor blind deluded fools..
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 8:26 am PT...
There is definitely MSM bias for the Israeli's. I have never said I am for or against either side. Just pointing out the MSM pro-Israeli bias. And, then, trying to piece together "why".... Why is that???
The 3-headed liars Limboob/Handjobbity/O'LIEly are so pro-Israeli, they are actually "losing it"... I ask myself, "why?".......... Why is the "new reichwing media" so pro-Israeli? Anyone know?
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 8:28 am PT...
I first saw on Democracy NOW!, about the Israeli kidnapping of the Palestinian brothers occurring BEFORE the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier...and the MSM not reporting this. The REAL NEWS, Democracy NOW!, reported it INSTANTLY!!!!!!!!
The corporate-controlled MSM has been feeding us SHIT for a long time...it's up to each and everyone of us, it's our OWN responsibility, to find out the truth, and stop watching ANBCBSNNXX...corporate-controlled news with commercials..........
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 9:41 am PT...
The corporate media is owned by Jewish people who want to advance anything Israel. Read waynemadsenreport..He recently had a post stating the reporters want to report the truth but aren't allowed to..have found this to be true when calling a few editors. I think Israel is a military base to protect mideast oil. More about money than religion. Just read Barbara boxer is #8 lawmaker for taking AIPAC money. Every day bushco is in office advances Israel/big oil.There has to be a reason that our lawmakers continually pass laws which are pro big business/oil and anti american. MONEY..BOUGHT OFF..BRIBED..BLACKMAILED..Howard Dean was against the war in '04. When he was running for prez. Kerry and Edwards attacked him more than Bushco. The DLC is still minimizing, marginalizing and demonizing him. Anti war =anti big oil,corporations218
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 11:36 am PT...
An important statement in the letter is "The following day the Palestinians took an Israeli soldier prisoner - and proposed a negotiated exchange against prisoners taken by the Israelis - there are approximately 10,000 in Israeli jails."
Many of those 10,000 prisoners have not been charged and are being held under "administrative detention". (Just look at the U.S. possibilities under the USA"PATRIOT" Act and unchecked executive power for a broader perspective.) The pathetic MSM focuses on one kidnapping (usually ignoring the "original" kidnapping) while 10,000 prisoners of all ages sit in Israeli prisons. Some info here
Any occupation, internment camp, impoverished, oppressive, violent situation will engender the same results. That being the case, and assuming the Israeli leadership is not stupid, the conclusion of Chomsky, Klein, et al seems likely to be the case, IMO.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 5:59 pm PT...
The very same players who brought us the bogus war in Iraq with concocted false intelligence are pushing to
attack Lebanon, Syria, and Iran.
The shift in official policy has thrilled former members of the cabal. To them, the war in Lebanon represents the final step in their plan to turn Iran into the next Iraq. Ledeen, writing in the National Review on July 13th, could hardly restrain himself. "Faster, please," he urged the White House, arguing that the war should now be taken over by the U.S. military and expanded across the entire region. "The only way we are going to win this war is to bring down those regimes in Tehran and Damascus, and they are not going to fall as a result of fighting between their terrorist proxies in Gaza and Lebanon on the one hand, and Israel on the other. Only the United States can accomplish it," he concluded. "There is no other way."
Link to the article.
Extensive background info
to how the warmongers operate,..
for their selfish interests,
not the best interests of the common-wealth of
the United States of America.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 6:09 pm PT...
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 6:10 pm PT...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 6:11 pm PT...
Thanks for this OldTurk #12: this is the sort of article --- and the sort of author --- that your frozen friend likes to blog about a lot ... so we may see more from James Bamford around here soon!
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 6:13 pm PT...
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 6:23 pm PT...
Oh I forgot to take the #12 link back to page 1,..
it opens on page 6.
Hi: WP the blog has proceeded/progressed
nicely,... with Brad on vaca. Good show.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 6:52 pm PT...
My mind keeps returning to an article I read early in ‘04. Isreali Generals had amazing access to Doug Feith.
Open Door Policy
A strange thing happened on the way to the war.
Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, a former Pentagon insider, concludes her observations on the run-up to the Iraq war in this last of a three-part series:
In early winter, an incident occurred that was seared into my memory. A coworker and I were suddenly directed to go down to the Mall entrance to pick up some Israeli generals. Post-9/11 rules required one escort for every three visitors, and there were six or seven of them waiting. The Navy lieutenant commander and I hustled down. Before we could apologize for the delay, the leader of the pack surged ahead, his colleagues in close formation, leaving us to double-time behind the group as they sped to Undersecretary Feith's office on the fourth floor. Two thoughts crossed our minds: are we following close enough to get credit for escorting them, and do they really know where they are going? We did get credit, and they did know. Once in Feith's waiting room, the leader continued at speed to Feith's closed door. An alert secretary saw this coming and had leapt from her desk to block the door. "Mr. Feith has a visitor. It will only be a few more minutes." The leader craned his neck to look around the secretary's head as he demanded, "Who is in there with him?"
This minor crisis of curiosity past, I noticed the security sign-in roster. Our habit, up until a few weeks before this incident, was not to sign in senior visitors like ambassadors. But about once a year, the security inspectors send out a warning letter that they were coming to inspect records. As a result, sign-in rosters were laid out, visible and used. I knew this because in the previous two weeks I watched this explanation being awkwardly presented to several North African ambassadors as they signed in for the first time and wondered why and why now. Given all this and seeing the sign-in roster, I asked the secretary, "Do you want these guys to sign in?" She raised her hands, both palms toward me, and waved frantically as she shook her head. "No, no, no, it is not necessary, not at all." Her body language told me I had committed a faux pas for even asking the question. My fellow escort and I chatted on the way back to our office about how the generals knew where they were going (most foreign visitors to the five-sided asylum don't) and how the generals didn't have to sign in. I felt a bit dirtied by the whole thing and couldn't stop comparing that experience to the grace and gentility of the Moroccan, Tunisian, and Algerian ambassadors with whom I worked.
Link to article:
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 7/26/2006 @ 7:11 pm PT...
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 7/27/2006 @ 1:52 am PT...
ain't it great.
An Israeli operative makes up a fake story about Iran.
bu$$h/cheney gives him a big juicy kiss on the forehead,.. and invite him to visit the White House.
Molly Ivens article here.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 7/27/2006 @ 4:12 am PT...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 7/31/2006 @ 11:29 am PT...
Hi, you can read more about these photos here...
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 7/31/2006 @ 8:06 pm PT...
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 8/1/2006 @ 7:40 pm PT...
Two Israeli soldiers captured inside of the Lebanon boarder not kidnapped as Israel/MSM now contends,...
The sources said the Israeli soldiers had been seized at around 9 a.m. (0600 GMT) across the border from Aita al-Shaab, some 15 km (nine miles) from the Mediterranean coast.
SOURCE - American media
Now that Hezbollah has "abducted" two Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, we can expect a "wider Mideast military confrontation," according to Bloomberg. Ehud Olmert holds "Lebanon responsible for the fate of the missing soldiers," who were captured near Aita al-Shaab on the Lebanese side of the border, that is to say the ISRAELI soldiers violated the sovereignty of Lebanon, a common occurrence.
Source - Middle East media
Israel says Hezbollah fired rockets at Israel,.. that is why Israel bombed a shelter,.. the Red Cross says
not true,.. Hezbollah fired no rockets at Israel.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 8/1/2006 @ 9:25 pm PT...
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
Joy and Tom Williams
said on 8/1/2006 @ 10:01 pm PT...
According to what I read, Israelis bombed a family picnicing on the beach shortly before the kidnapping of the soldiers. A little girl watched her family all die around here. THIS is what enraged Hezbollah.
Any word on this?
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 11:04 pm PT...
Joy and Tom Williams Comment # 26
To the best of my knowledge the family hit on the beach
by an incoming artillery shell occurred in Gaza,.. and that one Israeli soldier captured (they say kidnapped)
was done by Hamas,.. because of the beach shelling and
other Israeli military provocations.
Israeli artillery shell kills Palestinian family.
Shrapnel removed at the hospital proves the beach blast was Israeli artillery shell. Of course Israel adamantly denies the bombing of the beach was caused by them,.. but refuses to allow an independent investigation. The culprit says THEIR
investigative report indicates THEY are innocent of this atrocity. Case closed.
Link to shrapnel lab report - article.
The two Israeli soldiers captured (MSM now says kidnapped) were inside the boarder of Lebanon.
Another article attests to that,.. with map of area.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 8/3/2006 @ 12:19 am PT...
Israels endless strife and war,..
Alexander Cockburn article,...Link