Veterans Fired On Corrupt Politicians To Prevent Election Fraud

The Rallying Cry: 'Why fight overseas for freedom and come home and be denied the right to have your ballot counted?'

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Guest blogged by Winter Patriot

from Bill Poovey, AP, in The Seattle Post Intelligencer :

Felix Harrod, 84, was a 25-year-old poll watcher at the courthouse during the shootout and said it was common for incumbents in the county about 45 miles northeast of Chattanooga to take ballot boxes to the jail and stuff them with pre-marked ballots.

That was a practice the former soldiers hoped to stop. They offered an all-ex-GI, nonpartisan ticket that promised a fraud-free election and reform. Their rallying cry: “Why fight overseas for freedom and come home and be denied the right to have your ballot counted?”

from Jennifer E. Brooks in The Tennessee Encyclopedia:

Seasoned veterans of the European and Pacific theaters returned in 1945 and 1946 to southern communities riddled with vice, economic stagnation, and deteriorating schools. Undemocratic, corrupt, and mossback rings and machines kept an iron grip on local policy and power. Moreover, their commitment to the status quo threatened the economic opportunities touched off by the war. Across the South, veterans launched insurgent campaigns to oust local political machines they regarded as impediments to economic “progress.”

When Sheriff Pat Mansfield’s deputies absconded to the jail with key ballot boxes, suspicious veterans took action. A small group of veterans broke into the local National Guard Armory, seized weapons and ammunition, and proceeded to the jail to demand the return of the ballot boxes. The Cantrell-Mansfield deputies refused, and the veterans, now numbering several hundred, opened fire.

Poovey:

The veterans shielded themselves behind overturned cars as they fired shots at the jail from across the street. Sympathizers even served them refreshments.

McMinn County historian Joe Guy, now an assistant to the county mayor, said … “It almost got to be like a party-type atmosphere.”

Guy said that after the fighting, the GIs recovered several ballot boxes that hadn’t been manipulated and counted the votes. The veteran-backed candidates were declared the winners and sworn into office.

Wikipedia:

The event is sometimes cited by firearms ownership advocates as an example of the value of the Second Amendment to bring fair elections.

Poovey again:

On the 60th anniversary of the uprising, Powers and others who can recall the 1946 violence shake their head as state election officials predict only about 35 percent of voters will cast ballots in Thursday’s primaries in Tennessee.

“The lesson is that people ought to take voting a whole lot more seriously than they do and not let things get out of hand,” Powers said. “Don’t let the politicians just take over.”

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Veterans Fired On Corrupt Politicians To Prevent Election Fraud

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  1. 5)
    phil said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:10pm PT: [Permalink]

    #3 WP
    He can always proxy in with some other ip’s cidr.
    That’s a loosing battle however, you have a document of both him and me here.

    The sad fact is that it is currently a REPUBLICAN mob rule right now.

  2. 6)
    Winter Patriot said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:44pm PT: [Permalink]

    No KIDDING! Phil #5. You hit it bang on. but …

    … supposing we decided to lock this turkey out. Even if he came in under a different IP address his crap would still smell the same … and we’d sniff him out pretty quickly. 😉

  3. 8)
    Charlie L said on 8/2/2006 @ 3:25pm PT: [Permalink]

    A strategy for November 7, 2006:

    Step 1: First in line disables any machine that isn’t a paper ballot-based machine. Hint: razor blade on touchscreen works great, water bottle on many devices, equally good, etc.

    Step 2: “This machine is broken. I need a paper ballot.”

    Oh, they are out of paper ballots?

    Step 3: Sit down and DO NOT LEAVE until you have a paper ballot and have voted. NOT a provisional ballot — there is nothing provisional about your vote unless you are black, poor, or serving in Iraq. Please note, this could be a while (days? weeks? more) so be prepared.

    Step 4: Phone tree to ACLU, Bradblog team, BBV, and friends with camcorders.

  4. 10)
    John in Missouri said on 8/2/2006 @ 3:33pm PT: [Permalink]

    We must all be ready to take whatever actions are needed to insure that our votes are counted fairly. If we can’t trust our election officials to do then we must take control of them and count them ourselves. They are only puppets of the New World Order and will do as they are told to do. We will only regain our Republic through an uprising showing that America is governed by the people. We must demand that our rights are granted to each and everone of us. This is our duty as true Patriots. We must stand up to these elections or it will only get worse.

  5. 11)
    sorseress said on 8/2/2006 @ 4:07pm PT: [Permalink]

    Comment #8
    Re step 4. I don’t know if this has been posted anywhere on Brad Blog, but it might be a good idea if each of us contacted one or more of the voting rights groups in our states, and carried a list of their phone numbers when we go to vote. If there seems to be a problem with the machines, with individuals finding out that they have been removed from voter rolls, or anything else that appears suspect, with those numbers and a cell phone, we might be able to get some help, or at least verification of the problem.

    http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/..._organizations

  6. 12)
    KestrelBrighteyes said on 8/2/2006 @ 4:42pm PT: [Permalink]

    sorseress re: #11

    Great idea! I have to go vote in the Tennessee primary, and I’ve already decided to contact EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE that LOSES in the primary to let them know everything I know about how UNsecure the machines are – and then sit back and watch the fur fly.

    I just found out, we’ll be using IVotronics this year, made by ESS.

    Anybody know the different ways these particular machines can be hacked?

    (BTW, Huffington Post has a video up that shows the screwdriver trick with Diebold)

  7. 13)
    Nana said on 8/2/2006 @ 7:01pm PT: [Permalink]

    Ah yes, those were the ‘good old days’. Wise words from Mr. Powers, good advice too. I enjoyed this bit of history

  8. 15)
    davek said on 8/2/2006 @ 10:23pm PT: [Permalink]

    I NEED SOME HELP. Have an ongoing blog conversation with a guy who finally acknoweldges that yes e voting does have vulnerability, but fraud has not been proven so why fix it if it ain’t broke. I know, he sounds like a bonehead, BUT there is a point I would like to make with him and need help: He is saying exit polls are no good, they can be maninpulated, since everyone is corrupt why trust exit polls??? OK, why should we? Zogby, all those organizations, how do they ensure the accuracy of their exit polls?

  9. 16)
    Winter Patriot said on 8/2/2006 @ 11:13pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hi there davek: haven’t seen your name for a while and I hope you’re doing all right.

    on the “why fix it if it ain’t broke?” angle you could let him watch a bit of Lou Dodds

    Hand Counts in Iowa Kept Incorrect Op-Scan Counts From Installing the Wrong Candidates!

    It really IS broke!

    On the exit poll question, he’s really blowing smoke there.

    from Wikipedia

    An exit poll is a poll of voters taken immediately after they have exited the polling stations. Unlike an opinion poll, which asks who the voter plans to vote for or some similar formulation, an exit poll asks who the voter actually voted for. Pollsters – usually private companies working for newspapers or broadcasters – conduct exit polls to gain an early indication as to how an election has turned out, as in many elections the actual result may take hours or even days to count.

    Exit polls have historically and throughout the world been used as “parallel vote tabulation”, as a check against and rough indicator of the degree of fraud in an election. Some examples of this include the Venezuelan recall referendum, 2004, the Ukrainian presidential election, 2004, and the 2004 U.S. presidential election controversy.

    Ultimately it boils down to finding a source that he is willing to believe. There are tons of other good sources out there. But there has been a lot of disinformation spouted by those who wish to legitimize election fraud, so look out for disinfo

    I like this though it may not have enough “credibility” for your particular audience

    Exit polls have a distinguished history of reliability in US national elections, maintaining a 1/2% accuracy rate… until 2004 that is. The reasons for this high accuracy record are fundamental to exit polling. Unlike pre-election polling, exit polls are more accurate due to the fact that people are polled on what they did as opposed to what they intend to do. Exit polls survey historical results. Also, exit polls survey large numbers of respondents (13,660 in 2004) unlike regular national polls which rely on results from as little as 780 respondents.

  10. 17)
    Dredd said on 8/3/2006 @ 5:34am PT: [Permalink]

    WP

    We have heard of the perfect storm, perfect wave, and now I think you have posted the perfect post.

    Really, this post puts to rest my worries that we were not paying enough attention to the history of election corruption.

    As a result I was noticing that many in the movement were thinking this is a first time deal, and the enemy is fresh and young and not sly enough to avoid our protestations.

    What this post shows is that this is an old problem, and our enemy is formidable and still here after all of these years.

    Now we can realize … we gotta be in this for the long run … this is the war that comes closest to being unending.

    The so-called war on terror is a diversion, but our election corruption struggle is not.

    So thank you for pointing out what the patriots of WW II thought about the Haas mentality … and why they do not want those veterans to get in on our movement.

    Our country has changed a lot, but when the people in general get aware of this, there will be hell to pay even now, as it was then.

  11. 18)
    Dredd said on 8/3/2006 @ 5:42am PT: [Permalink]

    The electronic voting machine (EVM) watchdogs twenty years ago were saying what was said before the committee recently (1988 Article).

    You can shock the hell out of the EVM audience with these quotes from a 1988 official report:

    4.13 Summary Of Problem Types

    4.13.1 Insufficient Pre-election Testing
    4.13.2 Failure to Implement an Adequate Audit Trail
    4.13.3 Failure to Provide for a Partial Manual Recount
    4.13.4 Inadequate Ballots or Ballot-Reader Operation
    4.13.5 Inadequate Security and Management Control
    4.13.6 Inadequate Contingency Planning
    4.13.7 Inadequate System Acceptance Procedures

    Concern had been heightened by a series of articles published in the summer of 1985 in the New York Times. The articles cited statements by two computer experts reporting that a computer program widely used for vote-tallying was vulnerable to tampering. Several elections were identified in which losing candidates claimed that it would be possible to fraudulently alter the computer programs that were used in their contests.

    (NIST Report 1988, bold added).

    Another curiosity is that one person certifies the machines no matter how many ITA companies claim to do the certification? Or who sets the standards of the lone ranger doing the testing (The Lone Tester)?

    The EVM corruption is the modern child of the election warlords the veterans in this post dealt with.

    There are thousands of election warlords but there are millions of us. Lets send them over to the jail house to “count ballots”.

  12. 19)
    Larry Bergan said on 8/4/2006 @ 12:48am PT: [Permalink]

    Lets not ever use firearms to decide an election. We have taser guns now.

    What would Perry Logan prefer, mobs voting with taser guns or verifiable voting machines. I’ve been fighting for the later. The ruling class mob seems to prefer the former.

    Are you a member of the ruling class mob Perry?

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