READER COMMENTS ON
"Veterans Fired On Corrupt Politicians To Prevent Election Fraud"
(19 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:01 pm PT...
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:01 pm PT...
Everyone that don't understand this needs to watch the latest Zorro DVD.
Get your ass out there and watch it!
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:03 pm PT...
No, Perry Logan, not "all hail mob rule" at all ... you're smart enough to understand this but you choose not to. I've just about had enough of you.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:04 pm PT...
The Legend Of Zorro (Columbia)
And hell yes, count on me to give my life for our vote.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:10 pm PT...
He can always proxy in with some other ip's cidr.
That's a loosing battle however, you have a document of both him and me here.
The sad fact is that it is currently a REPUBLICAN mob rule right now.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 2:44 pm PT...
No KIDDING! Phil #5. You hit it bang on. but ...
... supposing we decided to lock this turkey out. Even if he came in under a different IP address his crap would still smell the same ... and we'd sniff him out pretty quickly.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 3:05 pm PT...
Bumper sticker seen today: "FRODO FAILED - BUSH HAS THE RING"
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 3:25 pm PT...
A strategy for November 7, 2006:
Step 1: First in line disables any machine that isn't a paper ballot-based machine. Hint: razor blade on touchscreen works great, water bottle on many devices, equally good, etc.
Step 2: "This machine is broken. I need a paper ballot."
Oh, they are out of paper ballots?
Step 3: Sit down and DO NOT LEAVE until you have a paper ballot and have voted. NOT a provisional ballot --- there is nothing provisional about your vote unless you are black, poor, or serving in Iraq. Please note, this could be a while (days? weeks? more) so be prepared.
Step 4: Phone tree to ACLU, Bradblog team, BBV, and friends with camcorders.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 3:26 pm PT...
The password is: PATRICK HENRY!
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
John in Missouri
said on 8/2/2006 @ 3:33 pm PT...
We must all be ready to take whatever actions are needed to insure that our votes are counted fairly. If we can't trust our election officials to do then we must take control of them and count them ourselves. They are only puppets of the New World Order and will do as they are told to do. We will only regain our Republic through an uprising showing that America is governed by the people. We must demand that our rights are granted to each and everone of us. This is our duty as true Patriots. We must stand up to these elections or it will only get worse.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 4:07 pm PT...
Re step 4. I don't know if this has been posted anywhere on Brad Blog, but it might be a good idea if each of us contacted one or more of the voting rights groups in our states, and carried a list of their phone numbers when we go to vote. If there seems to be a problem with the machines, with individuals finding out that they have been removed from voter rolls, or anything else that appears suspect, with those numbers and a cell phone, we might be able to get some help, or at least verification of the problem.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 4:42 pm PT...
sorseress re: #11
Great idea! I have to go vote in the Tennessee primary, and I've already decided to contact EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE that LOSES in the primary to let them know everything I know about how UNsecure the machines are - and then sit back and watch the fur fly.
I just found out, we'll be using IVotronics this year, made by ESS.
Anybody know the different ways these particular machines can be hacked?
(BTW, Huffington Post has a video up that shows the screwdriver trick with Diebold)
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 7:01 pm PT...
Ah yes, those were the 'good old days'. Wise words from Mr. Powers, good advice too. I enjoyed this bit of history
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 8:49 pm PT...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 10:23 pm PT...
I NEED SOME HELP. Have an ongoing blog conversation with a guy who finally acknoweldges that yes e voting does have vulnerability, but fraud has not been proven so why fix it if it ain't broke. I know, he sounds like a bonehead, BUT there is a point I would like to make with him and need help: He is saying exit polls are no good, they can be maninpulated, since everyone is corrupt why trust exit polls??? OK, why should we? Zogby, all those organizations, how do they ensure the accuracy of their exit polls?
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 8/2/2006 @ 11:13 pm PT...
Hi there davek: haven't seen your name for a while and I hope you're doing all right.
on the "why fix it if it ain't broke?" angle you could let him watch a bit of Lou Dodds
Hand Counts in Iowa Kept Incorrect Op-Scan Counts From Installing the Wrong Candidates!
It really IS broke!
On the exit poll question, he's really blowing smoke there.
An exit poll is a poll of voters taken immediately after they have exited the polling stations. Unlike an opinion poll, which asks who the voter plans to vote for or some similar formulation, an exit poll asks who the voter actually voted for. Pollsters - usually private companies working for newspapers or broadcasters - conduct exit polls to gain an early indication as to how an election has turned out, as in many elections the actual result may take hours or even days to count.
Exit polls have historically and throughout the world been used as "parallel vote tabulation", as a check against and rough indicator of the degree of fraud in an election. Some examples of this include the Venezuelan recall referendum, 2004, the Ukrainian presidential election, 2004, and the 2004 U.S. presidential election controversy.
Ultimately it boils down to finding a source that he is willing to believe. There are tons of other good sources out there. But there has been a lot of disinformation spouted by those who wish to legitimize election fraud, so look out for disinfo
I like this though it may not have enough "credibility" for your particular audience
Exit polls have a distinguished history of reliability in US national elections, maintaining a 1/2% accuracy rate... until 2004 that is. The reasons for this high accuracy record are fundamental to exit polling. Unlike pre-election polling, exit polls are more accurate due to the fact that people are polled on what they did as opposed to what they intend to do. Exit polls survey historical results. Also, exit polls survey large numbers of respondents (13,660 in 2004) unlike regular national polls which rely on results from as little as 780 respondents.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 8/3/2006 @ 5:34 am PT...
We have heard of the perfect storm, perfect wave, and now I think you have posted the perfect post.
Really, this post puts to rest my worries that we were not paying enough attention to the history of election corruption.
As a result I was noticing that many in the movement were thinking this is a first time deal, and the enemy is fresh and young and not sly enough to avoid our protestations.
What this post shows is that this is an old problem, and our enemy is formidable and still here after all of these years.
Now we can realize ... we gotta be in this for the long run ... this is the war that comes closest to being unending.
The so-called war on terror is a diversion, but our election corruption struggle is not.
So thank you for pointing out what the patriots of WW II thought about the Haas mentality ... and why they do not want those veterans to get in on our movement.
Our country has changed a lot, but when the people in general get aware of this, there will be hell to pay even now, as it was then.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 8/3/2006 @ 5:42 am PT...
The electronic voting machine (EVM) watchdogs twenty years ago were saying what was said before the committee recently (1988 Article).
You can shock the hell out of the EVM audience with these quotes from a 1988 official report:
4.13 Summary Of Problem Types
4.13.1 Insufficient Pre-election Testing
4.13.2 Failure to Implement an Adequate Audit Trail
4.13.3 Failure to Provide for a Partial Manual Recount
4.13.4 Inadequate Ballots or Ballot-Reader Operation
4.13.5 Inadequate Security and Management Control
4.13.6 Inadequate Contingency Planning
4.13.7 Inadequate System Acceptance Procedures
Concern had been heightened by a series of articles published in the summer of 1985 in the New York Times. The articles cited statements by two computer experts reporting that a computer program widely used for vote-tallying was vulnerable to tampering. Several elections were identified in which losing candidates claimed that it would be possible to fraudulently alter the computer programs that were used in their contests.
(NIST Report 1988, bold added).
Another curiosity is that one person certifies the machines no matter how many ITA companies claim to do the certification? Or who sets the standards of the lone ranger doing the testing (The Lone Tester)?
The EVM corruption is the modern child of the election warlords the veterans in this post dealt with.
There are thousands of election warlords but there are millions of us. Lets send them over to the jail house to "count ballots".
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 8/4/2006 @ 12:48 am PT...
Lets not ever use firearms to decide an election. We have taser guns now.
What would Perry Logan prefer, mobs voting with taser guns or verifiable voting machines. I've been fighting for the later. The ruling class mob seems to prefer the former.
Are you a member of the ruling class mob Perry?