CNN’s Lou Dobbs: Two Back-to-Back Segments From Florida

'No state stands as more of a symbol of flawed elections than the State of Florida.'

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Guest Blogged by John Gideon of VotersUnite.Org

Last night Lou Dobbs doubled the reporting on his semi-regular “Democracy At Risk” segment. Kitty Pilgrim reported on the recent breakdown of the system in Volusia County where but for the local newspaper and stalwart activists the county would have been able to bury discrepancies in their recording of votes in their primary election. Also Bill Schneider reported on how important the November general election is and that there are teams of lawyers ready to step in and take action.


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The text-transcript of Tuesday’s segment on Lou Dobbs Tonight follows in full…

DOBBS: We go to the polls exactly four weeks from tonight. There’s new evidence that the integrity of our midterm elections may be at risk because of problems with electronic voting machines. Kitty Pilgrim tonight reports on the e-voting aftermath in one Florida county, the latest to be hit with major problems with the new systems.

Bill Schneider reports from West Palm Beach, Florida where local officials are saying not to expect election results very soon after the polls close. Both sides lining up legions of lawyers ready to challenge election night numbers.

We begin with Kitty Pilgrim — Kitty.

KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Lou, this November, many counties will use touch screen electronic voting machines for the first time ever. The trial run for many of them was their primary. In one Florida county, the problems were not apparent during or even right after the primary. They turned up later.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

PILGRIM (voice-over): Primary day, September 5th, was the first time Volusia County, Florida used touch screen voting machines without a paper record. The local community newspaper wanted the vote tallies from the election headquarters but found its request stalled.

BARB SHEPHERD, PUBLISHER, DELANO-DELTONA BEACON: We considered this just basic election information of a nature that we had never had particular trouble in getting before. One thing I think is very important to consider is as elections get more electronic, records become more computerized. I don’t think that we can allow that to take those records out of the reach of the ordinary citizens who need to see them.

PILGRIM: The local newspaper ended up filing a lawsuit because they were asked to pay more than $100 for the records. When the records were finally released, several problems turned up. They were issues the public and candidates found out to late to contest the results.

SUSAN PINCHON, FLORIDA FAIR ELECTIONS COALITION: The supervisor of elections just kept saying they weren’t ready yet. Meanwhile, the contest of election period expired on September 22nd and that’s the date those records were finally released.

PILGRIM: Final vote tallies are recorded on a central location on tape. After sorting through the tapes, the local newspaper says, the tally tapes for the voting machines in at least seven precincts were missing. County officials said poll workers either failed to print them or threw them out.

And in more than a dozen precincts, the tapes had been interrupted for an incomplete picture of the voting. The only records for the optical scan machines were printed 16 days after the election. The election supervisor says everything balances. She responded as quickly as she could. She gets several hundred public record requests a year.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PILGRIM: The newspaper says the records were missing and muddled. There was no way to verify the initial results. Now Florida does not require a paper trail and many think that is the only way to properly monitor results of an election — Lou.

DOBBS: One would think, Kitty. Thank you very much.

No state stands as more of a symbol of flawed elections than the State of Florida. The Supreme Court ultimately weighed in on Florida’s flawed counting of votes in the 2000 presidential election. This year, both sides are preparing for any controversy. Bill Schneider reports from West Palm Beach. Bill?

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SR. POLITICAL ANALYST: Lou, it’s one month to election day and the last day for new voters to register here in Florida and in 13 other states. Let the controversies begin.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SCHNEIDER (voice-over): Remember the Florida recount six years ago? Hanging chads, butterfly ballots, lawsuits. 2006 could be another endless election, where the day after Election Day, we still won’t know who won. For one thing, this election could be very close with control of the House and Senate coming down to one or two seats. For another thing, we’re already hearing controversy over new voting procedures like touch screen voting and paper trails.

BOB BENENSON, CQ.COM: Because if they’re close, there are going to be protests and if there are protests, they’re going to be based on some argument of irregularity and in a lot of cases it’s going to be based on these now techniques and technologies.

SCHNEIDER: Neither side wants to be outlawyered, as many Democrats feel they were in 2000.

DEB MARKOWITZ, VERMONT SECRETARY OF STATE: In the targeted areas where there’s targeted races, the political parties are getting teams of lawyers ready to go in. SCHNEIDER: There’s concern about the security of the voting equipment.

KAY CLEM, INDIAN RIVER ELECTION SUPERVISOR: Everything is under 24/7 video surveillance so people can’t access the equipment. We have pass codes that only certain people can get into the tabulation room.

SCHNEIDER: The biggest problem may be human error as we learned in this year’s primaries.

BENENSON: Most of our elections are run by volunteers. And training them and making sure they know how the technology works.

SCHNEIDER: Plus issues involving who actually votes.

MARKOWITZ: It’s the obligation of every person involved in running our elections to make sure that it’s easy to vote and hard to cheat.

SCHNEIDER: A delicate balance and fertile ground for lawsuits. It’s not Halloween yet but here’s another scary scenario. Let’s say the Senate ends up with 50 Democrats and 49 Republicans and Joe Lieberman gets elected in Connecticut as an independent. Lieberman could decide which party controls the Senate, because if he then goes Republican and you have a 50/50 tie, the tie-breaking vote would be in the hands of Vice President Cheney.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SCHNEIDER: Lieberman has pledged that he’ll caucus with the Democrats. But the Republicans might make him a very attractive offer and remind him that the Democrats fired him in the Connecticut primary. This could get very interesting — Lou.

DOBBS: Bill Schneider from West Palm Beach.

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  1. 1)
    TruthIsAll said on 10/11/2006 @ 12:46pm PT: [Permalink]

    Get Ready for Another Stolen Election

    The Generic Polls showing a Democratic landslide assume a fraud-free election.

    Will the GOP steal the election again?
    Does Diebold switch votes?
    Can there be any doubt?
    The Repugs have stolen the last three elections.
    It’s the only way they can win.

    Bush and Cheney are confident that they will retain the House and Senate.

    Why?

    They have the means: DREs are certified to be hacked.

    They have the motive: Fear of Democratic investigations into 9/11, Iraq, torture, warrantless spying, the outing of Valerie Plame, etc….

    They have the opportunity: The Dems who could have done something are still drinking DLC kool-aid.

    As you can see from the chart, the Democrats have a 10.6% average lead in the polls. But the latest Gallup poll has the Dems leading by 23%! They’ve won EVERY poll, except for ONE TIE. The lead has been increasing over the past year. The Democratic trendline has a positive slope while the Republican trendline is flat.

    Here’s the trend in Generic House of Representative Congressional polls over the past 12 months:

    http://www.progressiveindepende...dc/dcboard.php

  2. 3)
    Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 10/11/2006 @ 2:44pm PT: [Permalink]

    comment #1:
    What’s so frustrating is Brad tried to take it directly to the DNC speaking at a Democratic something or nother in Chi-town over the summer only to fall on DEAF EARS.

    You are correct sir, my only deviation from your thought is i firmly suscribe to the school of thought that the Republidem majority consisting of Joe Liebermans (CT) and Bill Nelsons (FL) ARE CORPORATE SELLOUT ROBOT ENABLERS in bed with the BUSHIT ADMINISTRATION WARMONGERS. 911 IS PART OF THEIR WET DREAM.

  3. 4)
    Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 10/11/2006 @ 2:58pm PT: [Permalink]

    Yesterday i coincidently was seated next to a young guy at a temporary agency to watch a video on shipping hazardous material. We started talking about the anthrax originating from a US military facility and 911. Not knowing if he was even pro-bush he told me he was a weapons expert as which included explosives with a backround in physics who was stationed in Afganistan BEFORE the US invasion of IRAQ. He told me when his special forces unit watched the World Trade Towers II and I fall, they knew that explosives brought down those building. He did not see World Trade Tower building #7 which fell 10 hours later although not hit by an aircraft one block away.

    I asked how he knew? He said because of simple physics and the smoke from the blasting caps on the lower floors prior to their collapse..INSIDE JOB.

  4. 5)
    Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 10/11/2006 @ 3:27pm PT: [Permalink]

    There has never as in NEVER been any acceptance of the war games which occurred in this country on 9/11 was a powerplay by murderous criminals liers who call themselves American as distiguished by a little metal flag pin on their lapel.

    The farthest this story has gotten in the corporate mass media a finger pointing as Condolezza Rice, Rumsfeld and a short list of Bush administration conspirers who supposedly knew of an impending terrorist attack IGNORED.

    Has Bin Laden ever official taken credit for the controlled demolition of the twin towers? What about World Trade building #7? Why did the Bush family allow Bin Laden’s family to fly out of the county on the day after 9/11?
    What?

    One needs to follow the timeline of actions by the Bushit administration covering all aspect touched by their outreached fascist claw.

    One must ask why doesn’t the Bushit administration have an opinion about electronic voting machines, fixing our election system crisis, Global Warming crisis, war against all other species, IRAQ?

    Just looking as far as why this country is headed to another stolen election vearing out of control with Bush facing off against North Korea, one will not be able to see the big picture.

    Dangerous people in Dangerous times = Death and Destruction which is exactly what we got.

  5. 6)
    Lisa B said on 10/11/2006 @ 3:41pm PT: [Permalink]

    Yep, Florida is one of the worst. There are so many criminals down here. The guys think they are all Al Pacino (Scar face) or Al Capone. The women think they are Bonnie from Bonnie and Clyde or Ma Barker. Their headquarters are the Churches’ down here. We need a new Elliot Ness down here. HEELP!

  6. 7)
    Grizzly Bear Dancer said on 10/11/2006 @ 3:43pm PT: [Permalink]

    The cool thing about being American compared to a citizen of a different country is we can still fix this almost broken system. We got the people, the ideas, and the American ingenuity. So what are we starving for then..the same thing the biggest loser party (Bushit administration and enablers don’t have) which is strong leadership. Sites like bradblog can and will facilitate change. Good leadership will make it happen.

    Previous post correction: the Bush (US Fascist Terrorist) stance to stay the coarse on his illegal war against the people of IRAQ is not an reasonable opinion to the fact even presented by his administration.

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