Does this guy despise democracy or what?
An additional battalion of roughly 800 troops from the same division are expected to arrive in Baghdad Thursday.
Unbelievable.
(Feel free to use this item as an Open Thread for tonight’s speech, as I may not be able to blog it…but we’ll see. RAW STORY has the complete text of the speech. Will leave this on top for now.)
POST-SPEECH UPDATE:
BUSH: “[W]e must expect more Iraqi and American casualties.”
And so we ask again, as we did on Sunday: How many more casualties are expected due to Bush’s escalation of the War?
The White House/Pentagon undoubtedly have made estimates in the course of their planning, right? If so, what are the numbers? How much of our blood (Barb’s and Jenna’s not included) is Bush willing to spend on the gamble which nobody but he, McCain, Lieberman, and possibly Barney (though I doubt it) are in favor of? The People and the Congress have the right to know. They need to demand it.
If no such estimate of a surge or fall in the body count has been made while considering this plan, the White House has been impeachably delinquent. So, is any Congress member or media type out there, other than me, going to ask that question?
wait, so…the surge comes before the speech, and the speech is leaked before the speech. my question is: why bother listening to the man who won’t listen?
They must be using heavyduty tinfoil-penetrating beams now, because I have a SPLITTING headache!
Deja vu, didn’t we hear this same tune from Johnson to increase troops in Vietnam. Oh, that’s right – if we didn’t fight communism in VN, we’d have communism here. Sound familiar?? This is an oil war which only benefits gw and the oil barons. No more troops – they need a firm plan for Iraqis to take over their own defense. If they sink, they sink. If they float, they float. I thought we were their to train them to defend themselves?!
Enough of these games.
Congress should start the process…”Impeach the goofy SOB” over the illegal wire taps and sneaking a peek at our mail.
Putting Out the Fire with Gasoline . . . . . aGAIN . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprIR991EkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibS4w8U2hJ0
Blah Blah Blah
More of the same.
More death and destruction…
More money for reconstruction
that we’ll send to Halliburton…
Giving extremists ammunition,
is Bush’s imperialist ambition…
I wish they’d hurry up and impeach this fool so we can all get on with our lives without having to worry about our president starting armogeddon!
It’s all about spite with him… It always was . . . . . That is the policy. . .
Impeach, Impeach, Impeach this sociopath!!!
In other words, SSDD.
It’s said that the definition of insanity is when you do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
Hmmm..wonder if he’s started talking to the portraits yet?
Time to get in the streets and protest people! Time to call your Senators and Congress and demand Impeachment process begin. The White House is ignoring the election results.
John Wright
your president is insane
the uniter that divides
the decider that can’t decide
he’s killing your children
gitmo 5 years old today
21500 new targets
AWOL during NAM
a drunk
a coke head
not a single General agrees
but bush know better
when is enough enough ?
mick
JOJ # 7 “It’s all about spite with him” I agree.
He is trying to replace the “real” number of killed or wounded which according to the DOD was over 10,000 between March o3 and July 2005.
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2611.htm
“The actual total of dead American military personnel is now over 15,000 and also rising, and the number of seriously wounded is now ca 27,000. “
HANG BUSH
GWN, I believe nothing from these fuckin people let alone casualties.
And I thank God that I knew enough not vote for these SOB’s . . . . .
Not that It would have mattered . . .
I think he picked up the spite from his mother.
Oh, so the great escalator has already escalated!
Reason to stay escalated?
We’re there now!
I really hate this motherfucker!
Reason for America to stay raped?
We’ve already been raped?
Is that a good enough reason?
Time for the Democrats to STOP BEING ALAN COLMES!
#1 I already named my show episode “Surge” for January. Way before this speech, If I KNEW that, you should know that.
#2 I think there is more to your headache 99 than you think.. Perhaps microwaves. Perhaps just fucking annoyance.
However. I caught part of the speech with Mike Malloy on 1240Khz Talk City. Mike was dead eye lit. My neck started hurting. I guess they were microwaving me too. I did see a vehicle leaving the front of my home at a fast rate of speed. Strangly I didn’t hear the LOW FREQ “HUM” tonight.
#3 Yeah That’s what I thought too. To train the IRAQ folks to do jobs ala the CHP (California Highway Patrol.) Wonder where all the money went?
#4 I hear a lot of arguments on the left and the right saying Nancy won’t do it. LETS JUST FIND ANOTHER WAY THEN! Do you freeway blog? y/N = ?
#5 JOJ I don’t have the bandwidth, still on a dialup here. I hear you on the GAS on FIRE though! More like C4 for the Gophers.
#6 “” (with brevity)
#7
#8 Agreed
#9 Talking to portraits?
King Diamond – Fatal Portrait
But I got to say, it’s not that, it’s that he don’t want to win. He want’s us there forever. Think along the lines of sand beating on the best stee/hollowed out with mercury/ ninja death sword. Think Mayan BLOOD sacrifice! Cut the head off and toss it off the pyramid.
(I’ll be basing my show on that soon…!!!) Yes I been to Guatamala and Tikal, antigua, Costa Rica in 74. (Got Maps?)
#10 Exactly , I Preached this hella DO SOMETHING!
TAKE ACTION! DO NOT JUST VOTE!
#11 Maybe he needs to smoke some more ounces of meth.
Then when his face caves in and …
#12 N.U.M.B.E.R.S.
Most folks don’t know what that means. They watch FOX.
They don’t know what ONE death is.
#13 WTF!? HOW?!
#14 almost messed up my order..
#15 Mom’s can not teach this much hatred.
#16 The higher you are the farther you fall!
#17 FUCK NO!
#18 Who the fuck is alan colmes? just asking…
Look people this is a tough time for us all. I don’t know what the answer is to get rid of this fucking corruption. Something has to be done. The corporate media is not the same as the Public media. There’s a lesson there.
Even gang bangers can paint shit up.
Time to start painting targets. -imo
I tried to answer all my aquaintences here. Bomb-bard mE (YeAH i AM A BARD) and I won’t be able to deal, hit my fuckin board or something. I feel bad I screwed up tod’s board with this electornic election fraud crap, caused his website to be dead for a year now.. WTF you gonna do? Do you like music? The last year I produced my show I been Suffering, It’s not been the BEST it could be, because I am in PAIN every day. No health, no income, no girl. no profit. I make ZERO. ZERO. I LOSE MONEY MAKING THIS SHIT! so fuck hollywood, and all you healthy motherfuckers. I don’t hate you for not having pain, but I do have hella fucking pain. WNV neck pain, no medical, no dignosis, no meds. I BEEN TORTURED ENOUGH~!
DEAR George Bush.
Sooner or later god is gonna cut you down. (to rip a saying from the Johnny Cash.)
Maybe that is the best we can wish for this fucking Bush activly practicing satanist.. Not that I hate satinists…I rather they do their shit symbolically not in Reality.
Okay fuck it I am out. LITERALLY OUT. I hope I still suck air.
~phi
heh two names . . . . .
~phil
3:49 AM / 48?
Dear Aircraft that just landed at Executive Airport.
I hope the Gum under your flaps and slats worked good.
But I also hope that you will stop making fucking noise at 3:50 AM
Whatever fuck it’s the TOWERS fault, hell I can only make noise till 10PM, why the fuck should you do 1200 watts of noise at this hour if I CANT LEGALLY?!
HUH?
Maybe Christine Craft has an answer for this.
I’ll tell you how many casualties: as many as it takes until Bush can suck all the oil from Iraq and until all his Saudi financers are happy…I don’t know why the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 went so stealth, go figure…. instead his stocks are growing http://www.trendio.com/word.php...38;language=en
I guess the description “republican dictatorship” I have used here for over a year is not so far fetched after all?
We overthrew the congressional portion of the republican dictatorship in substantial part, but it is still unclear whether the moderate republicans (are there any?) will join the dems to send the crazoids at the white house to the asylum.
With 60 votes in the Senate, composed of sane republicans and democrats, they can stop US participation the civil war in Iraq … before it becomes a regional conflict including Israel, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and a few more.
Can we last two years til the ’08 election where the dem majority will grow more and the republican dictatorship in the white house is overthrown and the dems take that over too? Or will The Dickhead in Chief cause WW III before that?
Here is a link to the House Armed Services Committee list of members.
Get in touch with both republicans and democrats on the committee and tell them you support their resistance to the white house “unilateralism”.
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Here is a link to the house Foreign Affairs Committee member list. It may not all be up yet, but the chairman is linked and listed, as well as the republican member representative.
Let them know we want them to continue to resist Bush.
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Here is a link to the house Judiciary Committee, headed by John Conyers. His name is well known around here, and I think the republican dictatorship in the white house will hear from him.
Let them know we want them to continue to resist Bush.
Best. Headline. Ever.
The Senate committees do not have all their websites updated to reflect the new democratic leadership. They still show republican chairmen, etc.
Here are some links to those committees. When the new memberships are listed on the updated websites, get in touch with them, both republicans and democrats, and urge them to resist bush:
Appropriations Committee
Armed Services
Judiciary
Budget
Remind the congress:
(Georgetown University law professor Neal Katyal).
Here is a link to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. When the site is updated to the 110th congress, let the members know.
Pooh! What a bunch of whining nay-sayers! Haven’t you heard what our Fearless Leader said??? He BELIEVES that we can be triumphant, he BELIEVES that sending 21,000 more troops to certain slaughter and poking a pointy stick in Iran’s eye in the form of a fully loaded aircraft carrier is the right thing to do!!!! Of course… he also believes that clearing brush is real cowboy work, that speaking with a drawl makes you a real Texan, and that green m&ms really do make you horny…
Holy hell..he just keeps pokin the bears, doesn’t he??
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I heard someone yesterday said that Bush is trying to make history, by being the first US President to simultaneously lose TWO wars at ONCE. Ya gotta wonder…
Kestrel–
It has been noted elsewhere that this is traditionally the “slow” period fo fighting in Afghanistan and that will change when the weather breaks there. I think you are on target with the analysis: By the time the troops arrive in Baghdad, Afghanistan will explode.
You will recall the Pres said over two weeks ago that he wanted to expand the entire military, not just talk about escalation of troop strength in Iraq. I do not think that idea has gone away. It too has probably commenced (just like the insertion of the first 90 of the 20,000 troops before he announced it last night).
We have a Navy commander in control of desert war and , coincidentally, multiple carrier groups in the area of Persian Gulf right now. Been there for months. The President mentions in his speech that he is expanding his focus to include Syria and Iran. It was a formal inclusion in a speech about war.
The Pentagon has back-channeled complaints that we do not have the forces to sustain a ground war in Iraq. They cannot say that publicly as they serve the President first (Commander -in-Chief–blah,blah–time of war–blah,blah) . The Army has lowered its entry standards for enlistees. Immigrants are being offered citizenship potential as incentive. Some folks are not laughing at Rangel’s reinstate the draft gambit.
How many indicators do you need to see the President is not playing around? This is not just about “his legacy”.
For all the good it will do, I wrote Conyers via the link provided here. Message: Impeach now. Nation in peril. Include Cheney. If there is a Constitutional question, it’s better to get it on the table now and let the Supremes have at it sooner rather than later.
Not just lose two wars, KB, START AND LOSE!
Brad,
To continue from your “Blood Surge” thread”¦
Your last entry explained more clearly your position and, indeed, we aren’t far apart in our objectives. I thought the political aspect of what you were suggesting was not something I would spend energy on. If you believe in it, go for it. We all need to do something. Nor was I intending to make another entry “¦ until I heard Bush last night.
My take is that, politically, he has just pre-empted your efforts. He has already claimed “there will be casualties”. Sure, it is unspecified, but he has already taken the high ground. Further, he has said “success” will take a long time. There will be no surrender ceremony on a battleship. He is not ducking the issue, and instead is saying that he is ok with “Lots More” casualties over a long period of time.
So I continue to say it is pointless to get him or Congress to commit to an arbitrary figure when, clearly, whatever the figure, it will never be high enough to achieve “success in Iraq”. I suggest that we come up with a different tack.
I notice that he talks a great deal about freedom, and liberty, and terrorists. There is scant talk anymore about the “rule of law” that is the great equalizer of citizens, the lubrication of our democracy, and the basis of international accord. Where is the law that allows us fly into Somalia and shoot people?
If we have legal basis for this, then we have to consider who else does. Italians e.g. are hopping mad because CIA operatives abducted an Italian citizen and spirited him off to foreign lands to be tortured. Italian officials have issued arrest warrants for several US citizens (CIA folk) whom they suspect are involved in this act of terrorism. Does Italy now have the right to shoot up suspected safe houses in your neighborhood where they believe these CIA folk may be hiding?
Similarly, does Germany have the right to conduct an air strike on the office building where they think Rumsfeld works since they accuse him of war crimes? After Spain’s legal hassles in trying to get Kissenger to stand trial, they should be even more within their rights to blow up the apartment building where they think Kissenger lives. Our self-righteous conduct is counter-productive to making Americans safer.
But now I am digressing.
I suggest that we pressure Congress to simply uphold and stick to the Constitution. I mean the Constitution as it was written, say, in the year 2000. It can and has taken care of itself through worse times. Perhaps, not worse presidents, however.
The White House and Congressional folk who support this war are gearing up for much bloodshed. Were they truly convinced the additional troops would squelch the violence, and with the 20,000 to 40,000 numbers being bandied about, I am surprised that he is only sending in a few GI’s. Maybe that is supposed to be appeasing.
However, if more force is going to fix the problem that it hasn’t fixed already then Bush needs to send in significantly more force. I mean big numbers. He should be talking about reinstating the draft and putting so many soldiers over there that insurgents are truly squelched while the new government gets on its feet. If, as Bush says, America’s safety is so dependent upon “success in Iraq” why is he pinning all of our safety on the hopes of a mere 20,000 soldiers. I am no war strategist, but what Bush is doing seems like aggravation, strategic failure, or planned tragedy — not fix. He is doing it at the expense of our safety, well being, and America’s Constitution framework ““ and for several generations.
The Constitutional fix for this problem of our “safety” is impeachment.
Impeachment. On the table. Now.
Why did Bush give PNAC/Kristol’s speech?
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=543
Who is planning the Iran War?
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=10290
Here is an article DIRECTLY from Israel’s YNET, by a former Israeli general.
He says, “President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran. As an American strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and US newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure. “. That’s a quote!
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Com...346275,00.html
My daughter and husband are being shipped to Germany in February. My fear they will be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. I am proud of them for wanting to serve our country. They are willing to fight for what is humain. I read your comments and think what the heck is this country turning into. Despite the fact that the majority of American voted for the war after 911. Now show lack of support whether we have control of our president decisions or not. What does that tell other countries about our strength? My opinion on the Veitnam war problems were because of the way us American did not support our troops. The moral of those troops was to face the haterd our country put on them when they came home. Shame on us for that! It is our decision to make it right not only for our children but future generations as well. I don’t support the President on his decision but despite that my daughter and husband will follow his orders. So, until he (Bush)is as you say impeached or his term is up we need to keep it positive for our troops who are still fighting not only for us but for others who want what we have. If we are not careful about what we say. Our own country well be in trouble. I love this country and pray that nothing like Iraq or Afghanistan comes to our land. But really do we have what Iraq or Afghanistan in our own country? Are they already here waiting for us Americans to show them our weakness. How did they get away with 911? Think about it. Really who has control?
Mother: Shame on YOU for wanting wars and death…and to your OWN in the military!
I am for PEACE…you are for WAR. I am sorry they are in the military…and that the chickenhawk super-rich Bush is sending YOUR family to die for a bunch of lies.
If I were you, I’d be against the war ESPECIALLY because your family are in the military. Sorry, but we’re all not warmongers.
And where was Bush when 9/11 happened? He didn’t protect us!!!!!!!!!
I sincerely hope nothing happens to your husband and daughter. If it does, blame Bush.
When 9/11 happened, Bush should’ve resigned. He didn’t keep us safe. He parlayed it into 2 wars, instead of resigning, and used our military for many reasons other than WMD’s (didn’t exist), ties between Sadaam and Al Queda (didn’t exist), and bringing Iraq democracy (they have become a theocracy).
Any comments on the U.S. and Britain planning to divvy up 75% of the Iraq oil profits? That’s what your husband and daughter are over there for. 75% of the oil profits. Look it up.
The corporate mainstream media in conjunction with Bush and his WHIG group and cabinet, hookwinked us into war. The CMSM had “embedded” reporters, taking their queue from the pentagon. The CMSM had 90% pro-war “experts” and reports, and no anti-war debate. That is how you get the public to “buy into” a war. Now, everyone knows exactly what’s going on. 75% oil profits, no WMD’s, no Iraq/Al Queda ties, no democracy in Iraq. It was never the plan, but it’s the plan the CMSM and Bushco sold us like used car salesmen.
There’s over 3,000 American soldiers killed needlessly, and about a million Iraqi citizens, and now Bush is escalating it.
In my area, there are 4 gold star mothers who had their kids killed and are protesting the war. They all agree with what I’m saying, and they didn’t at first. I live in Northeast Pennsylvania.
And while I’m on a roll here, Bushco has illegally wiretapped us, opened our mail, trashed the constitution, made himself into a dictator with no oversight, taken money from social programs that benefit us all and given it to his rich buddies as war profits with no-bid contracts (Cheney), the GOP lost the majority because the corruption permeates throughout the whole party, and Bush didn’t win either election in 2000 or 2004, and you can thank corporate America’s e-vote machines, and the GOP: the only party that makes it a point to put up voting roadblocks, suppress minority votes, and steal elections.
Big Dan what country did you come from? I do not hear you complaining about your freedom you have. Shame on you for not giving credit for those who fought for what you have. I am not for war but your fighting a war with words. Where is it getting you? Except comments from people like me. If this country was being ran by people like you. I would not be able to speak mind or my opinion.
I hope nothing happens to our children. I pray that it all ends soon. I don’t want to go through what most of those family members go through losing thier loved ones. But how many of them have gone against whats going on and are still proud of thier loved ones?
Their loved ones choose their lives. And they choose your life and mine over theirs. You will never stop war unless you have the higherpower and you don’t. So take some action not with words but take care of it with what you have. If you have it.
Mother, I am a military wife as well and I couldn’t disagree with you more!!!! You are buying the propoganda…you must open your eyes, painful as it is, to the truth. Start asking yourself questions. Exactly how do you fight a conventional war on terror and win? It is like fighting a war on hatred with guns and missiles… you just create more terror and hatred. You can’t “fight” an ideology anymore than you can win a war pitted against an ideology. At what point could you claim victory??? It would go on forever because it isn’t tangible… terrorism isn’t a territory to be taken, or a person to be deposed… it is a monster who regenerates three heads after you remove one… The sad fact is that this war is being engineered by those who are in a position to profit from it. My husband was there. He and his fellow soldiers watched it. And precisely because these warmongers are profiting from it, they are completely unmotivated to end it. I say that if we truly care about our troops BRING THEM HOME!!!!!!!!!!!
Mother, it seems to me that you’re the one who would prevent people from speaking their mind… it really pisses me off when those opposed to the war are labeled unpatriotic or cut and runners…you. have. been. brainwashed.
I’m sorry OMQ, but are you seriously suggesting that million or so Vietnamese, in their own country, that died in the Vietnam War are are the result of Americans defending their freedom? That we can all breathe easier now that 50,000 Americans died in Vietnam, over 3000 have died in Iraq, and probably 660,000 Iraqis have died? For our freedom?
Th U.S. has become a rogue state and the sooner people realize it, the sooner we will realize what freedom is all about, what American freedom is all about. Supporting the troops means creating the circumstances where our military does what it is supposed to do – which is to defend our nation, if necessary, and the freedoms embodied in the Constitution.
It does not mean going around the world murdering brown people and making the world safe for corporate imperialism. Corporate imperialism is not freedom. Constitution-shredding, tyrannical presidential power is not freedom.
Hard facts, but the truth.
I couldn’t agree with you more woman on the verge. I can’t argue that and I wouldn’t.
We have to honor and respect those who decided to join the service as much as we hate war. I want it bring them home too!
I don’t buy into propoganda but war will never end as long as there is profits, oil, or religion.
These are very dangerous days. The have a man name who is heading the evote thoery. He is a convicted felon and drug dealer. Do you trust him? Is he really reformed?
This is really a waste of my time. I will contact our congressmen in my state. It probably won’t doing anything but it will add to the list of those who are against it. Then what? My daughter and her husband are still there. What can I do? I am not happy they are in the service I have argued that with them. They have made up their minds. They know what they are in for despite protest. I can only give them the support and love that I have for them and pray for their safety. And let them know how proud I am. Thank you! Tell you husband thank you for his service. He has an awesome wife to support him too.
Everybody. True support of our troops is to bring them home. Period. Anything you do that is not directed toward that end is just helping more innocent people get slaughtered. It’s as simple as that. The United States is slaughtering innocents. What justifies that?
NOTHING.
And nothing else is going to heal them either. We leave them over there killing and being killed, terrifying and being terrified, for the enrichment of billionaires, and they will NEVER stop fighting this war. They will be grappling with it for the rest of their lives… the ones who have not just summarily ended them for themselves already, that is.
Get them home now, or visit them etched on another wall in DC.
It’s up to us.
I have ONE question for you, “One Mother’s Quest”…please answer it…
Question: “Are you FOR or AGAINST your husband and daughter getting sent to Iraq?”
This is exactly how they label you/us “against the troops”…by not divorcing the war from the troops. If you are against the war, they say “you’re against the troops”…and you are falling for it, with comments like “you should be ashamed”…etc… That means their plan is working.
It’s marketting: Link being against the war with being against the troops. They’re been “marketting” things like that in the corporate mainstream media, Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, FOX News, Ann Coulter, etc…
WE see right through it…I wish YOU and others would. These creeps PROMOTE war, they are PROMOTING YOUR husband and daughter getting killed. Everyday, they do it. Today, Rush Limbaugh “trivialized” the deaths of 3,000 troops and the possible death of YOUR husband and daughter…by saying, “They killed 3,000 of us in 2 hours at the WTC…and 3,000 of US got killed over 4 years.” Rush Limbaugh JUSTIFIED 3,000 American troops killed, he DOESN’T CARE about them and he DOESN’T CARE about YOUR HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER…and guess what?? WE DO!!! WE “against the troopers”…who want YOUR husband and daughter home…RIGHT THIS INSTANT!!!
WHO is saying we’re against the troops? The people WHO DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER! They want more and more and more of YOUR husbands and daughters and sons deaths. NOT US!!!
Mother, Yes these are dangerous days, and no, there aren’t many left that I can say I trust anymore. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been there too. You’re reacting out of fear and anguish and you need to feel a sense of control. My husband was in Balad for 14 months. Telling our 6 and 9 year old children that he was leaving was the single most difficult thing we’ve ever had to do because while they were young, they were old enough to realize he might never come home again. Please understand that while I never supported this war, I ALWAYS supported my husband. Please don’t fall for that rightwing propoganda that anti-war equals anti-troop… it is an out and out lie engineered to confuse us as to what is right and what is wrong. I believe that most of the people here understand that our troops are following orders , not giving them. We need to take a stand. We need to pull together and scream as loudly as we can that we will not allow this to continue! Putting a yellow ribbon magnet on your car is not enough. We must MAKE them listen. It was a relatively small percentage of our population who fought for and won the war for our independence. Now it’s time for us to do the same. We must stand together to protect our constitution, and our troops. It’s the only thing we can do to truly protect our husbands and children.
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, FOX News, George Bush, his cabinet, etc…DON’T CARE IF YOUR HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER GET KILLED! You may as well say they WANT your husband and daughter to get killed, because they promote and promote and promote more and more war, and deaths, bombings, etc…They are on every day, tricking you by saying “Patriotic”, “against the troops”, “you’re with us or against us”, “we’re fighting them over there, so we don’t have to fight them here”…every day they’re tricking you into thinking THEY CARE about your husband and daughter. WE care…WE want them home. THEY want them THERE…and they don’t care if they die.
One mothers quest
Question 1: Does an Iraqi mother love her husband and children any less than you love yours ?
Question 2:What did Iraq have to do with 911 ?
Question 3:Is it a crime for a president to lie America into a pre-emptive war ?
mick from new zealand.
married with children (who will not die for a lie)
Don’t you get it? I am against them going. But I have to support them. We were there when Hitler was in charge. We helped jewish come from his torture. Why have you not said anything about that? Or Desert Storm? Those men who have fought war not only fought for what they believed in but it also helped our economy during the great depression.
I really hate to say this, because of what comments I will get, but sometimes war is a good thing.
There is no draft as of yet. So all those service men have volunter knowing what their chances of going to fight were.
There are still those enlisting still some as old as 41 years old. So do what you have to do. I will do my part. I really don’t know anyone who wants to see our troops over there. God help us! Please bring all of them home safe asap.
That picture Brad put up of Bush with his middle finger up, is for YOU, your husband, and daughter…from GW.
We want them home, HE’s escalating even MORE husbands and daughter going over there….but not his…
When the chief moron sounds like he is talking to imbeciles . . . . .
You know he speaking to his base . . .
Taken from # 52
“We were there when Hitler was in charge.”
Read Between The Lines Folks . . .
“We helped jewish come from his torture.”
How do you know that is his true middle finger?
Listen if your worried about your privacy think again. As long as your using the World Wide Web your privacy is wide open. Your being watched from all angles and you invited it.
All… I’ve shared these posts with my husband and I’d like to tell you what his response was. He told me that all the soldiers he knows now, and was with in Iraq , NEVER ONCE felt that the people of this country did not support them. I don’t think any of us can understand how conflicted our troops are. Most feel the same way we do… as I do… and , apparently, as Mother does too… they want this illegal, never-ending hell to stop, but they can’t give voice to it. Watch them when they are being interviewed on the news. They repeat the talking points mechanically, robotically. This is why we must be their voice.
And Mother, I will keep you and your family in my prayers.
OMQ: You HAVE to be on OUR side…because WE ARE on your husband and daughter’s side!!!!!!!!!!!! Who’s on your side???
Sign Ted Kennedy’s petition and stick yer head out yer window and yell and get out in the streets and call every government official in the phone book and bang pots and pans and stop talking about anything else but bringing them home right now…. You can do all those things.
How can you possibly be against people that care about your husband and your daughter…and aren’t feeding you bullshit about “patriotism”, etc…? WE are the Patriots! Limbaugh got orders today from who-knows-where, to trivialize and put in perspective, the 3,000 dead soldiers…and start pimping false “Patriotism” again…Limbaugh doesn’t give a SHIT about the soldiers, he’s pushing more war to his braindead listeners.
If it has commercials, it’s propoganda. Start watching LINK-TV & Free Speech TV, if you get it. Ban ANBCBSNNXX, they have commercials and are pimping war. And Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly, Coulter, Kristol, Lieberman, Bush and his whole crew…most politicians…we LOVE the soldiers, and want them home.
Kudo’s to Brad, he has the perfect picture up there. Bush said, “FUCK YOU”, to us and the soldiers. While he’s making pacts with Tony Blair to divvy up 75% of Iraq’s oil profits.
Big Dan- I honestly don’t think Mother is against us… just very confused and scared. We also have to remember that there are a lot of folks just starting to come out of their 9/11 induced comas. We’ll have to be gentle with them as they come to terms with the Brave New World they’ve awakened that comes complete with a tyrant and Big Brother.
Exclusive LIVE broadcast with army sgt. in Iraq, on Democracy NOW!…
…”I’m Scared Out of My Mind” – Live From Iraq, Active Duty Army Sgt. Speaks Out Against War Escalation
(excerpt)
SGT. RONN CANTU: Yeah, but I’m scared out of my mind right now. [inaudible] over here.
AMY GOODMAN: Why are you scared?
SGT. RONN CANTU: I don’t really want to go into that. All I really want to say, because I shouldn’t be doing this — all I want to say is, right now American soldiers are dying in a Sunni-Shiite civil war, a sectarian civil war — that’s a fact, based on my personal observations. Soldiers’ hands are tied to defend themselves. Every time a soldier fires his weapon, he has to sign paperwork making sure it was justified. I want to stress that soldiers want to go on the offensive, but everything we’re doing here is on the defense. And it’s a belief of the soldiers I’ve talked to that any troop increase over here, it’s just going to be more sitting ducks, more targets.
Everything we’re doing is reactive. People go out on patrols, and they’re sitting ducks until somebody strikes first. There was a story relayed to me by somebody I know — I don’t want to give his name — a soldier was shot in the face, and nobody fired back, because they couldn’t see where it was coming from. That’s what this has come down to, and that’s just plain fact. I’m sorry, [inaudible] —
AMY GOODMAN: Sergeant Cantu, can you explain the Appeal for Redress that you’ve signed?
http://www.democracynow.org/art.../01/11/1536236
I agree with best Headline ever.
My son spent a year in Ramadi and Fallujah. He’s been back a couple years now and it’s really hard to watch more children going off to be killed or changed forever. He still has a rash on most of his chest and stomach nobody could/would say what it was, he can’t sit or stand still and he’s never going to be emotionally the same again.
One comment on the soldier’s views from what little my son said. He said the hardest thing for them while over there was getting a glance at CNN or whatever and hearing reports of the polls about the war dropping here at home. This was back when it just started changing, I can’t imagine how hard it must be for them over there now. God Bless our Troops. Bring them home NOW.
One Mothers Quest and Women on the Verge – My thoughts are with you and your military families. It’s hard being a wife or a mother. Thank you for their sacrifices and yours.
Wow Big Dan, that’s scary and sad.
You sound conflicted mother.
But I can tell you that war is NEVER a good thing!!!!
As I have written many times before: “Every year of the Bush Administration will be worse than the one before it.” The question is: How long will it take us to repair the damage after the next 740 days?
For us to depend on war to help our economy is a total void of imagination. Our country is run by people who drill holes and make money off the stuff that comes out.
And besides that, the economy is not the route to the future of the world. It ignores global catastrophe caused by overconsumption.
We can do better then this!
We better get TRUSTED leaders to address this quickly!
Impeach NOW!
OMQ,
Don’t worry about what others think. Nobody here is attacking you. You have to understand that most of the folks here can see through the lies that are being fed to us. Facts tend to do that. The corporate mainstream media is not going to help you understand the big picture. All you are going to get is a false big picture. A lot of folks here have spent many hours trying to research facts to cut through the veil of lies. An example of this is the media blackout about electronic voting machine failures, and fraud. You will not see them cover any of the topics you see here on bradblog regarding electronic voting, you might see something when someone is tossed in jail, but they will not cover in depth the WHY of it. If you can’t grasp this, I understand, there are a lot of folks out there that have not self-initiated themselves up to an enlightement level where they can actually seperate truth from spin. I am a veteran myself, and I wouldn’t suggest anyone join the military right now. They are being used as pawns for big profits for big corporations. I wouldn’t join up to help Haliburton make billions of dollars, or shell and bp to control more oil. There’s 14 bases being built in Iraq. How often to you see a picture of them? Don’t you find that funny there is none? Some might argue that security is a reason there are no photos, but I’d argue that they don’t want you to know how big they are! The corporate media tells you every day on 98% of all frequencies that this war is to bring freedom and democracy. But you should step back and look at what is really happening. We now have less freedom, and less democracy, not to mention Iraq doesn’t even want to be a democracy! Speaking about freedom, I woould bet you can not list your constitutional rights anymore. Because they have been taken away. I know this because I can’t list my constitutional rights anymore. I can tell you what they used to be. I can tell you that the 4,5,6,7,8th are gone, and *arguably* parts of the 1st, and 2nd.
Think about that. The 5th is gone.. THEY WILL TORTURE YOU NOW. Meanwhile all youre going to hear are the same old fluff stories. They bring up the past over and over when needed, it isn’t even news. All the while something in government happens and you do not hear a word of it.
Anyway, if you really want to understand why the folks here are trying to get you to understand this stuff (They really are not attacking you), your going to have to filter out ABC, CBS, PBS, NBC, and FOX. There are more sources than that. You are going to have to find your news sources elsewhere than from those main corporate sources. Once you figure out what is really going on you can go back to listening to those sources, because you yourself will have the power to see right through their deception. Most folks do not have the luxury or time to become initiated to this level of understanding. The people at the top that are causing all this to be the way it is are feasic to your and others situation, they bank on you not being able to graduate. I do not know what else to tell you except I have no reason to lie to you, and I hope your kids don’t get killed by Bush’s filthy oil war.
PHIL– I couldn’t agree more!!!! I certainly hope that OMQ understands that the “spin” is an insidious poison that’s being administerd to us and most are completely unaware. We are being trained to believe that facts are the same as opinions… hence O’Reilly dismissing anyone with one of those pesky facts that blow his assertions out of the water with, ” Well, that’s your opinion”. No Mr. O’Reilly, facts and opinions are two completely different things. Water is wet. That is a fact. Water is bad because it makes you wet. That is an opinion. The propogandists are trying to “retrain” us, to brainwash us into believing that the two are interchangeable. This is similar to the Orwellian doublespeak the administration puppets use… black is really white… bad is really good… etc. Be a savvy news consumer! Turn off the major networks and turn on your radio, read the newspapers, read the blogs… these things are active thinking exercises, while television is a passive activity.
The constitution has been gutted. The only peotection we have from the Billof Rights at this point is the right to not quarter soldiers in our homes. That’s it. By the way, don’t forget Habeus Corpus and the Magna Carta. They’re out the window too.
As far as those bases in Iraq… folks, they’ve got Pizza Huts, Burger Kings, and McDonalds built on them… wake up and smell the fryer grease. If these bases were going to be short term would they have put chain restaurants on them??? Phil is 100% right. They don’t show them because they don’t want you to see what’s really going on there.
Haliburton, KBR, DynCorp,and big oil are vampires feasting on the blood of our soldiers. And we’re letting them.
Good sign … trolls are back.
Sure miss Ricky … I have some humble pie for him and some crow.
He can sprinkle some delusion on it and eat it as usual.
Talk about conflicted…Here’s the oath every person takes when he or she enters the military. “I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
So, what happens when the domestic enemy of the Constitution is the President? Will the armed services defend the Constitution?
It seems clear that the Constitution takes precedence. It always does (should).
Here’s the oath Bush swore, “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. Yep, he swore to it, folks.
Impeachment should never be “off the table” until the man is gone. It would be a dereliction of duty and a denigration of the Constitution.
arry – “…according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice…” Well, I’m a veteran, and I happen to know that the UCMJ makes it a crime to obey an illegal order. That’s all, game over! It doesn’t matter who issues the order, if it’s an illegal order it’s a crime to obey it!!!
Czaragorn — Well, there you go. Constitution enter. Domestic enemy of the Constitution exit. “…defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” (I’m dreaming today.)
LINUX anyone ?
“NSA and Microsoft Worked Together on Windows Vista Security”
Pay for the privilege to be spied on !
Remember the USSR and the “Iron Curtain” now we have the USA and the “Silicon Curtain” .
mick
Arry #72
Nice summation of our quandary!
MMIIXX #75
Holy Crap!
I’ve always thought it was kind of creepy that windows would welcome me to my own computer, but this is something else again!
Ironic that since you need 2 gigabytes of RAM installed to run the new operating system, it’s unlikely that poor people will be able to upgrade.
I use Red Hat Linux. It is the peoples OS … 🙂
“How many more casualties are expected due to Bush’s escalation of the War?”
Very interesting question! But who cares about any estimates of this administration?
re:LINUX
try ” ubuntu linux ” its FREE and they send you FREE cd’s when you register (free cd’s *5 ,free postage).it runs Firefox for browsing Openoffice for word processing and is stable unlike microsoft products .
Put “free” back into “enterprise”.
Another picture of his f u.
http://media.urbandictionary.co...bush-25992.jpg
Ultra rabid right-wing war hawk who devised the new Iraq/Iran/Syria War Plans – “Troop Surge”.
Escalation of death/sacrifice of our soldiers.
Link to info on architect of new Iraq “Troop Surge Plan” – an ultra hawk warmonger J.D. Crouch II.
Military contractors, war profiteers and the connections to bu$$hco. Why nobody is in a rush to end the Iraq/Iran/Syrian Wars.
Extensive article to the above.
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