READER COMMENTS ON
"'Total Bull' That Congress Can't Stop Bush Iraq Escalation Plan Says John Edwards Campaign"
(33 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 5:49 pm PT...
it's so easy to shoot your mouth off when you are unemployed.
when you don't have to weedle at least 11 republicans to your side to get the needed votes.
From what I've read of Edwards time in the senate he was Mr. conservative when he bothered to show up.
I guess he was practicing for his coming unemployment.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:08 pm PT...
it is bull... let's hope Dems don't pull an Arlen Specter here - express outrage and resolve and then not actually follow through...
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:09 pm PT...
He's not unemployed. I wonder how much you actually know about John Edwards. As a military family, I very much appreciate that he releases Bush's' decisions cannot be trusted and its time for everyone in any position to speak up and stop this insanity. They are destroying our military and begging for a draft. So unless you are willing to go yourself, support anyone speaking out to stop the escalation. My military family member who was there all of 2005, will be the first to tell you it was a waste of lives, money, weaponry and infrastructure.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:16 pm PT...
Yeah I'll step up qnd sign when the MILITARY sets up and SIGNS.
Ya know, I don't BUY their dead estimates.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:21 pm PT...
"Impolitic"? He didn't say "total bullshit". Really, aren't we all sick of junior President saying, "I'm going to do it, and there is nothing you can do about it"?
The more of this the better. Good for the Edwards campaign. "non-binding resolution"?? That's bull.
Interesting to see David Boniers as Edwards' campaign manager.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:23 pm PT...
Going to watch THE RETURN OF THE KING.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:26 pm PT...
That's when we ALL win.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 6:54 pm PT...
Wow..so THAT'S what a paradigm shift sounds like!
This is it y'all, showdown time. And we get to be part of it.
Feels damn good, doesn't it *bfg*
Now let's roll.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
e z rider
said on 1/17/2007 @ 7:20 pm PT...
He is correct, it is total Bull s**t.
The man can be stopped dead in his tracks.
If only we had a Senate and Congress with b@11$ enough to do it.
The people have spoken and are still speaking.
Why doesn't DC get the word. Should we purchase hearing aids and send there.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 7:41 pm PT...
I can't see why people here are bashing John Edwards. When politicians don't oppose Bushco, they're "rubber stamping"...when they DO, people complain! Too much FOX News?
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 8:16 pm PT...
"From what I heard"... that is the stupidest cop out you freaks use. You don't "learn" anything, you just "hear" "stuff".
Well, Mr. Edwards, the EMPLOYED ATTORNEY is right.
The Bush administration is running a DISINFORMATION campaign on this one hoping it sticks like all the other "stuff" they throw at the wall hoping it sticks.
The only people it "sticks" on is people who are not so shiny clean...
Here is testimony from BEFORE THE WAR, and in the PRESIDENT'S REPRESENTATIVE'S OWN WORDS BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY:
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 9:01 pm PT...
Alright, maybe I'm naive. Why does Edwards need to take an ad out in a newspaper to say anything to members of Congress? Isn't he a member of the Senate? Can't he use the xerox machine? What's the number of his resolution to stop this war? I haven't seen that listed yet and can't read the text.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 9:05 pm PT...
It is really important that Edwards has not said, "The Democrats in Congress have the power to ...".
The Congress has the power. Its in Article I, Section 8 ...
The Congress shall have Power
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
Certainly it will take an over-ride of a Presidential veto, and so it may not have the votes to get enacted. But the American Public have the right to see who is on the side of a real, actual "NO" to escalation, and which are only interested in playing, "read the polls and pass the buck".
Of course, it is already well known that when asked to fund the war, Edwards voted against funding. But using the power of the purse means waiting until the troops are already in place, and then the administration is in position to use their favorite game of making the troops on the ground the hostages for their policy.
So, whether they can count on the votes to over-ride the veto right now is not the point ... they should try to directly limit the escalation now, before it has been completed. Put it to the test.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 1/17/2007 @ 11:13 pm PT...
how long has Edwards been against this war? Not as long as me.He was pro=war in 2002-2003.Hypocrite!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 12:17 am PT...
Seems like many in congress are busy with "business as usual" garbage again. Every day now I am hearing something stupid. Anti-DRM, Anti-NetNeutrality, Now they want to mess with blogs. By creating a new beaurocracy, feel like registering your blog with the government now?
I don't. I'll make the fucker anonymous, with no logs outside of the US before that shit.
How much longer till they waste time on the Gun Control, The Gay Marriage, Abortion again, and again, and again.
Seems they never will fix the electronic voting problem, or hold the executive accountable for fucking up the constitution and making this god damned war.
Seems, we are doomed to repeat history again and again, even MLK day reminded us of just how much crap is going back to the way it was.
I'd say worse. with all the snooping and UNconstitutional crap.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 12:51 am PT...
Okay, pull the funding, ...but that's only a possible brake on escalation. As with Iran-Contra, Congress can PASS A LAW making it illegal to participate in military action in Iraq. THAT would put Bush to the test!
At this point, I doubt that more than a handfull of members of Congress are serious about acting to stop the conflict. Iraq is about OIL and MONEY. The wealthy of this nation are again using war to create immense wealth. Check out the economic status of the 535 members of Congress; mostly millionaires, Repubs and Demos alike. As the Oil Companies' stocks go up, the wealthy grow rich. --All while our taxes fund this little incursion. CAN MILLIONAIRES EFFECTIVELY REPRESENT YOU AND ME? Hardly. We've long since lost any real representation.
Iraq is history's greatest Robinhood-in-Reverse scheme: Steal from the poor, and give to the rich. Our democracy is long gone. The only chance for its retrieval is people in the streets. Congress is in the hands of the Multi-national corporations, with the Big Oil leading the pack.
We, the people, have a lot of work ahead, if democracy is to be regained. First, peole must learn what's really going on. Then, the anger can lead to some purposeful direction.
It's going to be harder, with no press coverage, --but with each additional criminl step on the part of BushCo, the people are getting wiser and angrier. The question continues to be, --will we wait for too long before we learn enough to finally get serious? Or, are too many of us too comfortable, and too uninformed to act? Congress is no less a problem than the Executive Branch. (And how're we doing in the Judicial Branch?) Washington cannot be relied upon for anything except more of the same.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 3:16 am PT...
It is likewise BULL that John Edwards cannot help his sick neighbors get healthcare services in his home state of North Carolina. I understand John Edwards cares about the war. Does he care that his neighbors cannot go to the doctor in NC without the doctor being hauled in front of the North Carolina Medical Board for humanely treating Lyme Disease? John Edwards is forcing his two Americas on his sick backyard neighbors in addition to trying to end the war.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
Osama Bin Laughing
said on 1/18/2007 @ 5:30 am PT...
There was a study some time ago that concluded that the American public will tolerate a war as long as less than eight percent of Americans are affected by the casualty rate.
You can be sure that the Administration has seen that study.
There are about 80,000 mercenaries in Iraq, paid by the US military. A large percentage of the ground troops are Hispanic. Americans remain largely unaffected by the war in Iraq. As long as the very smart people in power continue to maintain this situation, they can keep the war going and plan for new ones. War has been outsourced.
Most Americans implicitly support the ongoing wars for conquest of the Middle east's oil resources. After all, nobody is going to stop driving SUV's anytime soon.
Iran will be the big test. My cluephone tells me to bet that Russia will never allow Iran to be attacked and conquered by America. Funny how nobody is threatening to invade Russia because they are selling anti-aircraft systems to Iran. Oh, wait...if America attacks Russia (or North Korea, or China) that eight percent of Americans affected by the casualty rate would be achieved in less than a week.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 5:52 am PT...
Good points. It is not good to trust the dribble of a politico during an election to establish the fine points of constitutional law.
The abstract concept of congressional power comes from the text of the Constitution as you pointed out. Same with the presidency.
At first blush it is abundantly clear that one congress differs from another, and one president differs from another as well.
Another clue is the each president and congress has a number. The last congress was the 109th and this one is the 110th. They are different. The last president was Bill Clinton, and the current one is George Bush. They differ.
Thus, what any president or any congress has "power to do" is a mix of the abstract with the reality ... the make-up of the congress being discussed is the main consideration.
Congress has power, in reality, to do only what its membership is willing to do.
The noise going around right now is all the rust falling to the floor ... rust that gathered from lack of use of the powers of oversight, etc. The rubber stamp 109th congress let the oversight mechanism rust over.
The moderate republicans who are siding with the dems against the Iraq debacle have an eye on '08. They should be aware that the destruction of the republican party from public service in any significant degree, in the congress and the presidency, is set to happen.
The American voting public is ready to lynch the republican party for allowing the neoCon right wing fanatics to take over the party.
And thus within the GOP there is a rebellion to the neoCon infection.
Power is flowing back into the 110th congress and away from the presidency.
The bottom line is not whether or not the congress, in the abstract, has the power, instead the bottom line question is "When will the power flowing back into the congress get back to normal levels and potency".
It is heading in that direction, and when it does get back to normal, the president and vice president have an ass kicking coming.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 6:58 am PT...
The 'Surge' aka 'The 10% solution' is going forward. Currently, approximately 200,000 soldiers fight for 'democracy' in Iraq [roughly US troops + foriegn troops + paid mercenaries (i.e. Blackwater)]. So, the President's solution is to add 10% more (20,000 troops). Even assuming these extra troops perform 100% efficient, things will merely get 10% better in Iraq. Will 10% be worth the continuing carnage of American soldiers? Don't look to the Democrats for help. They will sit idly by as they did when the gov't suspended habeas corpus, opened mail, banned the novel "America Deceived" from Amazon, stole private lands, conducted illegal wire-taps and continues wars in the Middle East based on a false-flag event known as 9/11. If the Democrats cannot stop the current 10% increase in this war, then they will never stop 100% of this war.
Only remaining link (until the gov't pulls the novel off Google Books):
America Deceived (book)
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
Edwards for potus
said on 1/18/2007 @ 9:43 am PT...
Isn't it amazing how many of our tax dollars end up paying ignorant fools to "blog" against anybody who's against Bushco?
If it were HARD to pick out the shills, the "Comments" section of all the political "blogs" would be of some interest. As it is, BRAD, you'll have to begin adding a "spoiler" line above the Rovian shill "comments." How about "OFF SUBJECT" or "FAUX COMMENT" or "YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK."
Another AMAZING thing is how they manage to be first, or nearly first, when an article is POSTED! It isn't censorship when you dump the garbage. And anything not related to the POSTED article (like character assassination) SHOULD BE DUMPED!
Anytime I actually BOTHER to read the "COMMENTS" I am reminded why no one should. BRADBLOG: keep it pertinent or drop the "COMMENTS" altogether, including this one!
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 9:49 am PT...
Edwards For Potus: Great comment! I always notice the shills are names I've never seen before, and they do get the first comments in. Shills are a sign of a good blog, though. What are the odds that "one-timer" comments are always Limbaugh/Hannity-esque talking points???
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 11:35 am PT...
Congress is going to do big nada.Just like in the past,they all dance to the fidle of the diktate.
Most of the congress people are doing nothing as expected.Democracy??? What is that?or was is das?
Big ball of illusion.Most in senate represent their own
agendas.They could not give a shit about american people and the ones that do are deep in the closet.
Good bye democracy.helooooo diktatorship .Sounds like
present America???Perhaps the senate should start looking in to NEW DICTATORSHIP times ahead.Bushes 10%
increase in troops is a joke.Just check some Vietnam statistics and compare.George and his pack watch tooo much holllywwood shit .Keep dreaming GEORGE THE GREAT.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 12:37 pm PT...
If Congress doens't remove ALL troops, than you can BET they will be voted OUT the door in 2008! Literally!
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 1:57 pm PT...
How many people on this site WANT it to be about all the progressive issues it can (like this one) and how many would rather that Brad (and his team, and US when we are here) concentrate on ELECTORAL REFORM --- the issue in which he has the strongest BRAND and the one that matters more than any single other issue?
I have suggested this before, and never got much feedback.
"BradBlog.com: The best website for the truth about electoral reform, bar none." THAT SHOULD BE THE BRAND.
Toyota doesn't sell soda pop for a reason.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 2:00 pm PT...
Hey amigo your congress bimbos will not do shit for you.In 2008 there will be more idiots representing their own agendas.Do you think that most of this parasites care about your wiev points.Ha ha ha welcome
to the black house.Do what we tell you or else.You really dont think what the new kid around the block have to say.Do ya?First and most foremost get rid of the old farts in the senate. They are umbaresement to the universe.Democrats republicans?no diffrence send them to the unemployment line.They cant think enymore.Perhaps to much hormone polluted shit they have been eating? Get some young kids to represent the future of your kids,Preferably ones that do not come from money?The senators of today represent GREED exception few.Most in todays senate have nothing to offer,except bullshit.Vote them out in the neer future.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
J. Mark English
said on 1/18/2007 @ 3:19 pm PT...
I love the blog that you have. I was wondering if you would link my blog to yours and in return I would do the same for your blog. If you want to, my site name is American Legends and the URL is:
If you want to do this just go to my blog and in one of the comments just write your blog name and the URL and I will add it to my site.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 3:37 pm PT...
Charlie L RE: #25 - Since you asked for opinions...
Personally I like the diversity of issues here. Once in a great while there is something posted in which I have either no interest or no time to read about at the moment. No biggie, I just skip those posts and/or comments, or skim and go back later to the stuff that I find interesting.
I still recommend this URL to those with whom I've had face to face conversations as a starting point for information about evoting issues, but I don't feel the other 'stuff' detracts from the blog at all.
There are plenty of sites out there that deal exclusively with election integrity issues - VotersUnite.org, VoteTrustUSA.Org, and Velvet Revolution, to name a few.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 3:38 pm PT...
Also on the Republican side is Texas Congressman Ran Paul. The Republican Establishment will try to shunt him to the side. But there is a deep well of bile directed at neo-conservatives (R-socialist/war mongers)among the rank and file of the Republican party. This should be intesting; a Constitutionalist who has voted against the Iraq war in primary contests against Newt, Guliani, Brownback.
A Lew Rockwell article and a Dallas News article on the matter.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 4:36 pm PT...
Charlie --- I hate branding. Brad has a fine and unique site. I'm quite certain that it is well-known to go here for good, documented election integrity material --- mountains of it. Brad's intelligence and hard work has paid off, and he didn't have to brand it. The mix is healthy, IMO, and it is all related. It's a unique site that really can't be branded. That's one of the things I like about it. Besides, it attracts a kind of beautiful funky crowd. What can I say? Brad's doing something (actually a lot of things) right.
Of course, Brad can do anything he likes. He can decide tomorrow to devote all his space to hula hoops. It would be disappointing to me, but it's his call.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 5:24 pm PT...
In the '08 election 21 republican senators are on the re-election block, as is the presidency.
The president's "policies", arrogance, incompetence, giving of the finger to America, lack of understanding of english, and lack of sense of anything, will doom these fellows ... and they know it.
They are grappling with denial as we speak ... but some of them get it. Hagel, Brownback, Snowe, and some others.
They seek to avoid the destruction of the republican party from the minds, hearts, and respect of the American people.
It has already been done, but they have two years to change the minds of the public.
And to do that ... they must dump the fools in the WH.
It is the season of the Greens, Libertarians, Independents ... so long as they are not de facto neoCons.
The dems are going to pick up 10 of those 21 available seats ... 11 remain for the others.
It remains to be seen if the Greens, Libertarians and Independents will realize that their opening in the '08 elsection is based on an attack against the republicans ... and if they realize they must leave the dems alone this time ... ie. stopping their incessant persecuting of the dems ...
I predicted the '06 "landslide" in posts here in '05 ... and I am predicting this '08 election event in '07 posts here ...
Check it out.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 5:29 pm PT...
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
said on 1/18/2007 @ 8:32 pm PT...
EFP #21 --- Yes, it looks like dirty tricksters.
I'll give credit where credit is due. Edwards deserves an ovation. Let's get out our little 2008 books and record this firm stance in the section, "Important Things to Remember".
The fact that he is attracting dirty tricksters is also a mark in his favor.