READER COMMENTS ON
"Sorting Out Election Reform"
(14 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 10:41 am PT...
What in God's name is it with the Democratic leadership? Don't they know they would have veto-proof majorities in both houses and that Bush would never have been inaugurated if the votes had been counted correctly? They either have something to hide, or they are literally terrorized. I think it is the latter. There are Republicans dying in Florida, and there are rumors about huge pedophilic prostitution rings involving elected officials.
Anyway, there is something that isn't on the up and up, because why wouldn't the Democratic leadership want to win more elections?
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 10:56 am PT...
Bob, Brad, and John,
My representative responded to my four inquiries last week about HR 811 with this paragraph which I copied from her letter to me that also addressed some of my inquiries from previous and unrelated letters about NCLB:
"As you may know, I am an original cosponsor of the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act, which would amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require a voter-verified paper ballot for each vote cast and that individuals with disabilities are provided equivalent accessibility and voter verification. The bill requires voters to confirm that their paper ballots, when produced by voting machines, are accurate before leaving the voting booth. Regarding your concerns with this bill, you might be interested to know that I support several pieces of legislation that address your concerns. Last Congress, for example, I cosponsored the Paper Ballot Act of 2006 to require hand-counted paper ballots for presidential elections. Additional legislation may be introduced to ensure that election-related information is made publicly available and transparent. Please know that I will keep your concerns in mind as I continue to make election reform security a priority in the 110th Congress."
I'm interested in hearing anyone's responses to this paragraph.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 12:00 pm PT...
When will people wake up and figure out that some of the Democratic leaders are just as bad at "Corprorate Love and money" as the Republicans...? You would think after being fooled time and again....people would actually look up the platforms of these candidates...get to know how you favorite candidate really feels about Democracy...research like your country depended on it...heres a real good link, to start with.......find out what the DLC is really up too.......!http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090607J.shtml#
P.S. check out Hilary Clinton and the "Fellowship" another fundamentalist Evangical crowd..she really is a "Bush Lite"
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 2:01 pm PT...
How much more plain could it be that any Representative or Senator allowing the continued use of DREs supports corporations over WE THE PEOPLE, and in doing so no longer supports Democracy. These treasonous piece of crap machines have been exposed and for any Congress person to not take immediate action is treason! I know when I made my calls I specifically asked each to take the time to personally read Bowen's reports or at least the summaries. There simply is no excuse for wasting any more tax payer money or precious time before the next election on corporations we should be suing to get our money back from. Adding printers and keeping source code reviewable only to more corporate "experts" are disease infested bandaids. There is enough money and time to make the switch to systems using real ballots and they know it. Anyone saying different is lying or stupidly uninformed at this point.
Oh yeah, and lets keep the EAC which has played a HUGE role in bringing us to this crisis point, so they can continue to help install more democratically challenged leaders.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 3:16 pm PT...
One area that BradBlog does not adequately cover in this controversy is the apparent extent that the Secretaries of State and local election officials have lobbied against our, the voters, interests. I saw this point made in an AP article at Truthout. It seems that there is an attempt by vested interests to create a corrupt Election Technology-Industrial Complex like we already suffer from already from the Military-Industrial Complex and the less well known Prison-Industrial Complex.
Once an industry gets established to lobby aggressively for its own interests, it becomes politically powerful and subverts the interests of the American people. It is time we the American people put our foot down on the growth and cultivation of these corrupt, insider-political interest groups in this country for our own economic, political, and physical survival.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 5:11 pm PT...
Hoyer was one of the originals responsible for HAVA:
Representative Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio)
Representative Steny Hoyer (D-Md.)
Senator Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
Senator Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.)
The above also wrote the "Dear Colleague" letters, trying to get congress to ignore the concerns of voting activists.
Hoyer is also a Maryland representative, and there is a long history of voting problems with Maryland, Lamone, and all that.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 5:22 pm PT...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 5:28 pm PT...
"yes I plagiarized this" Happy 911 everyone!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKING ACTION AGAINST
THE "NORTH AMERICAN UNION"
The exceptional deception being generated right now in reference to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America still has a great majority of people in America, Canada and Mexico completely in the dark about the true nature of this "partnership". In fact, the fourth wing of the US government, the News Media, has and continues to avoid this issue as much as possible.
Everyone should read the article by Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D below:
Dr. Vieira's summation is as follows:
"NO constitutional grounds for a North American Union exist. Indeed, the whole project is patently illegal. That fact, however, will prove to be of merely theoretical significance unless WE THE PEOPLE oppose the creation of a North American Union with every form of exposure, denunciation, protest, obstruction, and resistance that the Constitution permits. And as soon as possible. For all the evidence indicates that the Establishment considers the North American Union a top priority, its foundations at the least to be poured into place with the next few years."
Everyone should send this article to their Congressman, as it details in plain terms that, based on the Constitution, none of the US States can ever be merged with Foreign Counties. Period.
Most state legislators do not even know this. It is your job to inform them.
Support Ron Paul 2008
Congressman Dr. Ron Paul, though sadly holding traditional conservative Christian beliefs, including an anti-abortion position, is still by far the most outstanding candidate in the 2008 elections. He is the only candidate that is not owned by the corporations.
Not only has he proposed legislation to ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE and ELIMINATE THE INCOME TAX & IRS (!), he is also completely aware of and OPPOSED TO THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION.
The three points addressed in the above paragraph are of paramount importance in a very immediate sense. Dr. Paul truly understands these issues and is the first candidate in roughly 50 years who has had the courage to stand up against the banking, corporate fascist elite which are carving the world up for themselves.
For those who think it is impossible for Ron Paul to win the election, I would like to point out that even though the silence regarding Dr. Paul is deafening from the mainstream media, Dr. Paul has won nearly all Debate Polls and Straw Polls, including the most recent in Maryland.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 5:36 pm PT...
One correction: the TTB did not take close to half a year... but took about 1.5 months. Big difference
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 5:39 pm PT...
Hil-arious. Ron Paul. Call me when the shuttle lands you freaking kooks.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 9:19 pm PT...
Linda #2 -
Re: your Congress Members statement:
As you may know, I am an original cosponsor of the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act, which would amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require a voter-verified paper ballot for each vote cast
He/she is wrong. It doesn't require a paper ballot. He/she needs to educate him/herself. He/she has been conned.
As to the Kucinich Paper Ballots bill he/she mentioned, that was introduced in the last Congress, but hasn't so far been introduced in this one. If your Congress Member actually supports it (which I doubt) why don't you suggest he/she introduce it in this congress?
Beyond that, your Congress member is either full of shit or completely uninformed or both. No idea who he/she is, so best I can do is take a guess
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 9/10/2007 @ 9:57 pm PT...
Brad #11 -
It's Woolsey, so she's uninformed, unless she's protecting her colleagues on Capitol Hill.
Thanks everyone for the feedback. When I first read her response to me, I wanted to just go ballistics in my response back, and I may still do that. But ... when I return from my 6-day getaway to the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, I'm going to put together a little piece for my hometown newspaper, which is her hometown newspaper (she lives 6 blocks away from me), and take her to task in a hometown-ey kind of way.
I swear, everything they say is intended to keep themselves in office, and therefore on a payroll, and the congressional payroll is a pretty good one. Are you aware that the only demographic in America that has 100% employer-subsidized health insurance, and really good covrage at that, is the demographic we refer to as our congressional representatives? I wonder ... if we were to cut them off from health care, the way the rest of us have been cut off, if maybe they might put a little more effort into a national health care policy for all Americans, like the one in Canada.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 9/11/2007 @ 7:49 am PT...
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 9/11/2007 @ 9:40 am PT...
One voter, one vote...everytime... It won't happen by a quick-fix add-on printer or a snazzy new gee-whiz machine. Especially since eventually machines fail. Moreover computers can print one thing while counting another. The entire process must be overhauled, starting with election laws that allow people to decide the voters’ choice when elections go bad. 2000, 2004, 2006.
Lani Massey Brown