READER COMMENTS ON
"Bush Blames His False Claim That Iran Might Launch 'World War III' on Intel Agencies"
(12 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 12/4/2007 @ 4:46 pm PT...
Yeah, but John "The Original Neocon" Podhoretz has followed that up by claiming that Intel Agencies are conspiring to undermine Bush. There's "a vast Intel Agency conspiracy" to discredit Bush.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 12/4/2007 @ 6:06 pm PT...
Tis the season for some more Bush Whitehouse released "Christmas Terror" warnings. Raise the threat level to Orange, talk about new spectacular events or start bombing Iran. Plug Iraq as a success, increase spying on Americans, and roll out McCarthysim v2.0 .
These fine points will be more than enough when added to the corporate media's coverage of the local malls, airports, and plastic Christmas tree factories.
(Wouldn't you rather know how Christmas tree's are made and why they cost more, than why after more than half a decade the electronic voting machines are still as dangerous to national security as the day they were invented.)
Once we hit recession, stories about Intel Conspiracy will be mute, as instead of "dashing thru the snow" we'll all be sloggin in the freezing mud on foot to the homeless shelter. Most people will be too busy working extra hours to pay attention.
I just wish the Intel Agencies would hold the oath of office breakers accountable, but it's not looking like that's gonna happen. Yes our National Security is at risk, and it all started with ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES THAT TABULATE VOTES!!!
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 12/4/2007 @ 6:39 pm PT...
Yes, Bush was lying, but the reason was to whip up support for a war with Iran using the "mushroom cloud" scenario. Already the Washington Post is soft-pedaling Bush's lie. I have to think Bush would not have been able to make the lie in the first place had the Democrats been doing their job and prosecuting phase II of the Intelligence Committee's inquiry into intelligence used in the run-up to the Iraq war. Namely, whether the intelligence was manipulated by political officials (it was).
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 12/4/2007 @ 9:13 pm PT...
On another blog, our buddy Stultis pointed me to this article : link
There didn't seem to be any sources for the information that would appear to be at odds with the NIE report. (Iran is testing advanced centrifuges, and about to put them online for enrichment)
Where did it come from?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 12/4/2007 @ 10:34 pm PT...
well he seems to be taking out all nuclear programs off every country yet "we" remain to maintain ours, but what if bush takes out the rest of the programs that makes us world power, but this power will be abused and quickly. this danger will happen i have predicted it. this is general maximus greeting you all good day once more
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 12/4/2007 @ 11:38 pm PT...
I read that story on Sunday and it immediately struck me as another LA Times propaganda piece that had the obvious intent of supporting Bush's drive to war with Iran. The LA Times tries to have it both ways, with opinion pieces and editorials often criticizing Bush but with frequent articles like this thrown in to muddy the waters and to appease the wingnuts and create a false sense of "balance". The LA Times has no interest in getting to the truth of the matter. Their only interest is being cautious to throw equal numbers of bones to readers on both sides of the political spectrum and to serve their corporate masters by not being too hard on the Bush Crime Family. The subsequent release of the latest NIE only served to confirm my initial feelings about that article.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2007 @ 3:32 am PT...
Finally, the NYT is getting (some of) it right.
Conservatives have been sabotaging majority rule in the Senate, then blaming Democrats for running a "do-nothing" Congress.
This one is damned good too
American right-wing populism is an interesting phenomenon that's coming to the fore once again in its usual nativist and racist form, but also as smooth misrepresentation of "tax reform"; clever, misleading public relations messaging about fair trade; and some fairly outlandish paranoia about conspiracies to erase the borders. Various permutations of these fairly common right-wing themes abound among conservative politicians and thinkers alike. But conservative populism is an oxymoron.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2007 @ 3:32 am PT...
Poor lil ole preznit blush, who indicates thru Karl "turd blossom" Rove and his own musings that congress and the intelligence community pushed him into invading and occupying Iraq, and now they are doing the same with Iran. He is helpless to stop it, the story goes.
Somebody help poor lil ole preznit blush and stop congress and the intels from making him invade and occupy ... space and time itself ... oh they are so mean to him and his ...
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2007 @ 3:37 am PT...
Hey Floridiot, it looks like we did the impossible and posted (#7, #8) at the exact same California space and time (3:32 am PT) ...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2007 @ 3:48 am PT...
Weird Dredd,I had to wake up to drag one of my kids out of bed for school, I read the two above articles and just had to get them 'out there' for all to see...required reading for the fence sitters IMO.
Pass them along to all your right wing rellys.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2007 @ 8:28 am PT...
There's "a vast Intel Agency conspiracy" to discredit Bush.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2007 @ 11:16 am PT...
Bushco, should have never fucked with Plame and the covert arm of the CIA. It's payback time and no spinning in the world will save the disgrace of these NIE revelations.
It is illegal to intentionally manipulate and coerce the people or government by threatening them.
US Patriot ACT
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) DOMESTIC TERRORISM DEFINED- Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1)(B)(iii), by striking `by assassination or kidnapping' and inserting `by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping';
(2) in paragraph (3), by striking `and';
(3) in paragraph (4), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; and'; and
(4) by adding at the end the following:
`(5) the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
`(B) appear to be intended--
`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
The public statements of fear mongering and scare tactics used by the President and Vice President are in direct opposition to what they knew in advance was the NIE determination regarding the suspension of Iran's nuclear programs. The mushroom clouds, the threat of world war three and other statements were made to manipulate 'intimidate and coerce the US civilian population, and to influence the policy of government by intimidation and coercion.
The President and especially the VP have repeatedly propmoted an implied threat of imminent danger from Iran's nuclear weapons program directly to the American People, which we now know has not existed since 2003. They have been in receipt of this information and willingly and knowingly subverted and misrepresented the Iraniam threat intentionally.
They are Domestic Terrorists by Their Own Laws.