READER COMMENTS ON
"AP: Thousands of Democratic Voters Dumped from NM Voter Rolls After Outsourcing to Failed Voting Machine Company ES&S..."
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 2/25/2008 @ 9:40 pm PT...
I have provided Mary Herrera with all she needs to know about ES&S to justify a complete termination of the business relationship...and long before this latest crap with the voter rolls. My conversations with a few of the NM County Clerks have clarified that they have no confidence in her ability to run elections, or her understanding of audit and security procedures.
Let's find out what really happened? Indeed. Denial is absolutely the key word.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 2/26/2008 @ 7:46 am PT...
Saint Kos, add this one to your list of things that don't happen. It's just that nutter parallel universe thingy acting up again.
I can't figure out why you don't just partner up with Saint John and get over it. He needs a new preppyganda outlet.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 2/26/2008 @ 10:33 am PT...
"They couldn't answer me or they didn't want to"
Why . .
If they can't answer it's cause they WON'T answer.
If they didn't WANT to it's cause of some evil invisible electronic project they hide.
For Oath Breakers . .
If they can answer, they will
Lies or truth depending on the wind.
They'll Muck around until caught.
For honest citizen
They'll say something
Hey Man Stop That!
They will interfere when needed
not any better than the rest of us pieces of human scum
no electricks tabulation devices
maintain unbroken chain of custody of paper ballots like they need to survive a war. (we supposedly are in a war right? we in a war, were not? come on. hello . hello )
Citizen Oversight. (It should be similar to Jury Duty where it HAS TO come out fair because of all the people.)
(throwin this idea out)
Because it's been far to long for citizens to get their votes counted right, and with all the stupid legislation prior to this date, and misunderstandings about the capabilities and abuses of electronic technology, we want to change all policies and procedures to:
GET citizens of the United States to SERVE to COUNT (PAPER BALLOT) votes and PROVIDE CONTROL BY EXPEDITING OVERWHELMING OVERSIGHT ON THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY. (feed them, drink them, pay them, let them use the restroom, whatever it takes to get the job done.)
Further, if possible, voting in the direct sun of the day would be good, and access to voting polls should be stratigically placed to be surround-able and sweep-able with any electronics either removed, approved, or turned off preferably. Allowing for Pigeon Carriers to go X (some help here) distance away to use any communications. The voting poll should be as much like a library. Quiet where you can think. Not arguing about some stupid broken printer or network. This has gone on long enough and the nonsense must stop. Ordinary citizens could count the vote in their own neighborhood better than all this abusive technology ( I call it abusive cause it's what it's being used for ) By itself networks are good, phones, electronics, but NOT for tabulating votes, or transmitting results. You should KNOW the person your transferring your official results to FACE TO FACE . Your not calling BOB in Alabama or some such nonsense!! It COULD BE another country, for ALL YOU KNOW.
No electronics will go down in history as being the stupidest fucking abusive exploited idea ever created when applied to tabulation and voting.
You could CARVE two wooden dishes and talk, how does the information travel? Invisibly, and some times intermittently.
Now apply that to the known physics of electronics.
Induction, RF, logic, Capacitance, Power, Thermal
It all has stuff that messes it up. And it's a network that sit's quietly not being tested for flaws by being forced to run all the time. No it sits with it's flaws waiting. Not to mention that the wiretapping by using the FIOS splitter could be feed back to manipulate results, and because FIOS splitters are some kind of state secret, we can't audit, or validate the result ever.
Now what was I talking about?
Oh yeah, Voter Rolls.
Protect Voter Rolls.
Right up there with the others
Chain of Custody
in the sun/daylight
its a lot to remember. (fun to write this post though)
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 2/26/2008 @ 10:46 am PT...
fighting about ID's.
Don't need a ID.
Need OVERSIGHT of the VOTER ROLLS.
The ROV's Identify registered voters.
If your not fake you get a ballot in the mail.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 2/26/2008 @ 3:57 pm PT...
You've got no integrity, and no credibility whatsoever. How fitting that you gave yourself the Time Person of the Year award, as though you were doing it tongue in cheek, but never bothered to clarify for the many readers who commented. Here's a more informative excerpt from the Time article which you cite as your "nomination":
"Who are these people? Seriously, who actually sits down after a long day at work and says, I'm not going to watch Lost tonight. I'm going to turn on my computer and make a movie starring my pet iguana? I'm going to mash up 50 Cent's vocals with Queen's instrumentals? I'm going to blog about my state of mind or the state of the nation or the steak-frites at the new bistro down the street? Who has that time and that energy and that passion?
The answer is, you do. And for seizing the reins of the global media, for founding and framing the new digital democracy, for working for nothing and beating the pros at their own game, TIME's Person of the Year for 2006 is you.
Sure, it's a mistake to romanticize all this any more than is strictly necessary. Web 2.0 harnesses the stupidity of crowds as well as its wisdom."
So, Brad, you not only prove them right in that last sentence, you exploit "the stupidity of crowds" of your readers with misdirection, and shoddy lazy writing.
For what possible reason would you still be posting a link to this blog entry on your front page? I can't think its for any reason other than to deceive your readers into thinking you actually were noticed by Time Magazine. You're a disgrace for taking advantage of people of good principle with those kinds of tactics.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 2/26/2008 @ 9:58 pm PT...
There's no relevant article on the front page to put this, but I just noticed this:
As a bonus, assuming Democrats hold those gains and the state governorship, redistricting will be in our hands. A 100 percent Democratic U.S. House delegation is well within reach, if not by the ballot box, then by the redrawing of the new districts.
and later, defending his remarks:
Politics has consequences (1+ / 0-)
this isn't an intellectual exercise.
But you don't have to dirty your pretty little hands. There are plenty of us willing to work within the rules of the game to build a better America.
by kos on Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 08:26:46 PM PST
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 2/26/2008 @ 11:29 pm PT...
Ahem. Back on topic.
The article said NM had contracted with ES&S to maintain their voter registration database. I'd be interested to know if that means NM bought the software from ES&S and uses it in their own offices with their own employees, or did ES&S actually take on the day-to-day maintenance of the data itself. If that's the case, that should certainly be illegal. Purchasing a product to use to do your job is one thing, but turning your entire job over to someone who has not been elected or appointed, has not taken an oath of office and has no direct accountability would border on criminal negligence.
Does anyone know how NM maintains its voter rolls?
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 2/27/2008 @ 1:10 am PT...
It is my understanding is that the master rolls are maintained through the Secretary of State's office by ES&S - not ES&S software and NM State employees, but rather by the actual company. The Democratic Party used those rolls, which it appears were defective before the Democratic party did any manipulation of them for the primary.
It appears that our SoS Mary Herrera has a lot in common with Dean Logan...in that neither of them are particularly interested in whether registered citizens actually get to cast their vote and have it counted.
An excerpt from the following article
A spokesman for Herrera said her office has no immediate plans to investigate reports of missing voter names and is waiting to hear from the Democratic Party about any inadequacies with the lists.
"If there are any discrepancies, it would have been after it would have been received by the Democratic Party. Let them investigate it. Let's find out what really happened," spokesman James Flores said.
Feigned concern about the accuracy of the voter rolls, and shifted blame for the inacurate rolls...Jesus H, what do we pay these people for??
BTW, what was that loon Paul (#5) going on about?