READER COMMENTS ON
"Conyers Demands 'Immediate Halt to Republican Vote Suppression Efforts'"
(25 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 12:54 pm PT...
Both of these letters which are being sent will be dutifully filed in the trash basket.
The "suitable outrage" hearing will be merely a posturing exercise and will have no teeth just like the recent "Bush impeachment" hearing authorized by Pelosi.
The Democrats and Conyers have known about this for quite a while now and have chosen to take no action. Talking and whining seem to be the only actions that they can muster.
We have little to no representation from our money-driven and bankrupt Congress.
We now have a bankrupt country in a depression and that only bothers them when their own portfolios are affected as we are now seeing.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 1:14 pm PT...
If the speed in which Conyers talks is any indication on how fast Congress will jump on this, they should get to it sometime in 2010.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 2:10 pm PT...
Your links to the two letters are reversed.
[Ed Note: Fixed. Thanks, Linda. --99]
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 2:26 pm PT...
Hear the derision, Mr. Conyers? Hell of a
legacy isn't it?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 2:51 pm PT...
It is pathetic that Democrats can only make toothless and hollow too-little-too-late gestures with weak symbolic value at best, as if they are a marginal minority party. Even funnier, as elections are rigged with Democrats' de facto permission, McCain et al are actually grabbing the anti-corruption, anti-corporate welfare stance (with a dash of new-born "feminism") and owning it. President John McCain, and if he croaks (not far-fetched considering his age and cancer battlers) President Sarah Palin. Get used to it.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 3:07 pm PT...
I like Conyers.
I hope the word gets out that this is really the last chance this nation has to end this corruption. Words are powerful, but when they have no bite, they are powerless.
Another four years of this, and nobody will recognize the USA anymore. Nothing is as it should be.
Constitution stripped, no health, no wealth, no prosperity, the three things that actually require a positive balance being eliminated, ultimately leading to loss of the pursuit of happiness.
Bottom feeding on people trying to vote, is the lowest form of scum. It undermines everything we know.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 3:44 pm PT...
I hope Conyers has a plan B. If McBush is so low to do illegal tactics, vote caging, etc. do you really think he'll react to harsh language?? I doubt it! Now jail time, massive fines might get his attention or a front page ad on RNC vote caging, but he would only blame Obama. This guy is nothing but a yellow tooth, sleeze with no character. Makes my skin crawl!!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 3:56 pm PT...
There have been bills in both the Senate and the House that clearly expose and oppose the "voter caging" tactics the GOP has stolen the last two Presidential elections with. They are both mothballed. If Conyers actually had teeth (or cajones), he would have openly called for all members of both Houses to demand those bills be sent immediately to the floor for a vote. This is more posturing from this formerly great Congressman whose time has past and he is as guilty as Pelosi and the rest of the pathetic Democratic Party non-leadership for allowing the Bushies to take us down this disastrous path without oversight and without accountability.
Impeachment could have happened, should have happened and it isn't too late for it to happen. All that is missing is spine from the Democrats. I won't hold my breath.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
Mark A. Adams JD/MBA
said on 9/19/2008 @ 4:26 pm PT...
Stopping vote caging is very important to make sure that every citizen can cast a vote. However, rigging the secret vote "count" is the way to take away our power to elect our leaders.
Conyers as well as the members of the House Committee on Administration, some of whom signed the letter to Mukasey, know this, yet they don't raise that serious issue?!?!?
For a little reminder about those on the House Committee who voted to ignore the law, the evidence, and the will of the voters, see the Brad Blog's coverage of this travesty. If you review the comments, you will see a copy of the motion which I filed to try to get some justice for the voters.
If these leaders won't follow the law and won't even mention the invisible elephant crushing our democracy, secret vote counting which by the way is unconstitutional as well as dangerously unreliable, then it is up to us to keep the Neo-cons from rigging the election again this year.
The best way to do that is by conducting a citizen exit poll at a few precincts in each county. That only takes a handful of people. We did it in Florida in January, and it helped cut back on the cheating.
For more info, see www.ProjectVoteCount.com Project Vote Count’s Election News and Project Vote Count’s FAQ
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
Mark A. Adams JD/MBA
said on 9/19/2008 @ 4:31 pm PT...
By the way, John Russell has won the Democratic Primary and will be facing Neo-con Republicon Ginny Brown-Waite in the general election. Find out about his campaign for Florida's 5th Congressional District and give him some help at http://www.johnrussellforcongress.com/
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 4:55 pm PT...
If McCain and the GOP can't cheat somehow...how can they possibly win the elections...? And if they can't win, can't politicize the DOJ...how will they possibly escape accountability for their crimes against the Constitution and their law-breaking...?LOL
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 6:08 pm PT...
I live in Michigan. Conyers has always talked that way. Don't underestimate him.
The Repubs have controlled the House, Senate and White House for 6 or the last 8 years.
Why would we trust the folks who brought us this financial mess (McCain & Repubs) to fix the mess.
We must move forward. McCain has not new ideas. Our grandchildren and children depend on us to go for change.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 8:46 pm PT...
Mukasey is part of the problem
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 8:54 pm PT...
Regarding foreclosures and voting, many foreclosed houses are multi-family or single-family homes that were bought and leased out to tenants by inexperienced people trying to turn a small profit.
Depending on both their lease and local/State tenant protection laws, these tenants may have the right to remain in a bank-owned foreclosed property as renters for 30, 60 or 90 days, sometimes longer - sometimes the full six months of their lease. Some remain in the house right through the sale to the next buyer. (While the first owner may have foreclosed on the highly priced property, the next owner, buying at a heavy discount, yet having the tenant paying the same rent, may fare much better than the original property owner.)
So turning away people that live at the street address of a foreclosed property, even if the bank is currently the legal owner, may very well be turning away renters that live at the property and have a right to vote.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 9/19/2008 @ 10:57 pm PT...
I don't think it's possible to underestimate John Conyers. Every time I think he's been as feckless as as he could possibly be, he woofs threats about another Bushco crime and then fails, again, to take action. Another sternly worded letter. God, he just makes me tired.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
John H Kennedy, Denver CO
said on 9/20/2008 @ 6:16 am PT...
I am a 43 yr Democrat and I have a solution.
John Conyer and other spinless incumbent House Democrats are taking a huge chance that the voters will just ignore their cowardly, lazy performance. Most voters are now more angry at the House Democrats that at Bush.
Pelosi and Conyers are risking their filibuster proof Senate and veto proof House if they continue to ignore the voters wish for action not words. There is however so little time left in this session of the House that no one should waste time debating or writing John Conyers. It is time for action.
We in Colorado are actively doing Negative Campaigning, Protesting and especially Negative Commenting on Newpaper Articles against incumbent House Democrats who are in tight races.
The idea is to push our incumbent House Dems to announce impeachment hearings. We do not care if they actually get them started before the election but we want a start date announced prior to Nov 4.
We have been pressuring Colorado Rep. Udall for months, showing up at his public events carrying signs with messages stating: "Is Udall a traitor to his oath?", "Udall's Ethics Problem: being a traitor to his oath", "If Udall won't protect Your Constitution, He won't get you single-payer"... you get the idea.
Colorado is a battleground state and the Senate race is so close that Al Gore has begged MOVEON to help raise money for Udall.
In our comments here in the Denver Post we challenged Udall to honor his oath and support impeachment.
This article and our comments show we are making a difference. Al Gore joins fundraising efforts for Udall's Senate race-Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/election/ci_10502933
Michigan is one of the battleground states. Voters in Michigan should target all incumbent House Democrats there but especially any in tight races. Be ruthless in your statements. Don't pull your verbal punches. Attack, but stay on only one topic, their failure to honor their oath and protect the Constitution. If they do announce support for impeachment you can then move to support them again, since you opposed them on only one issue.
Voters in Michigan and from all other states should do Negative Commenting on political articles in all Michigan newspapers. No matter what the topic just find a way to change the topic to Conyers and the incumbent House Democrat's refusal to honor their oath and call for impeachment. hound them. All of us all across America can do this in Michigan.
Voters in the other two battleground states should do the same. Attack all incumbent House Democrats but ruthlessly attack those in tight races for re-election or for promotion to the Senate.
ATTACK CONYERS REPUTATION. You have one chance before the election to get his attention. Have some guts. Do it!
We believe that the Democrats will win the Presidency and majorities in the House and Senate.
We also believe that we voters can afford to lose one or two seats in order to teach the Democrats to do their job.
And JOIN US ON
a coordinated, scheduled calling campaign to blockade the House Judiciary Committees phones for impeachment.
Tell the voters to "BLANK VOTE" the incumbent House Democrats... Guarantee that will get their attention.
John H Kennedy, Denver CO.
43 yr Democratic voter,
Obama delegate tot he Denver County Convention
organizer of the
Impeach Colorado Coalition http://ImpeachCO.com
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 9/20/2008 @ 7:47 am PT...
One effort targeting Florida women registered as Democrats is being led by the "voter participation center" - a project of "Women's Voice."
Totally designed to confuse the recipient into believing that if they do not send in the flyer by a fast approaching deadline, they will not be able to vote.
Illegal, Immoral, Unconstitutional FRAUD - brought to you by the same party who voted unanimously to remove ALL regulations governing broker/dealers leading to the pending global meltdown of the entire financial system - and imminent martial law here at home.
Why doesn't Cheney just blow up the Sears Tower, blame the long-dead Bin Laden (again), and get it over with!
How 'bout we just send all the commercial aircraft over to Iraq, load up our National Guard, deliver them to Reagan International airport and surround the White House until the criminals kill themselves, and take this GodDamn country back?
If you can finally stomach the entire truth - it's right here:
The "Conspiracy Theorists" got it right.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 9/20/2008 @ 8:54 am PT...
JOHN H KENNEDY,DENVER CO:
These are very good tactics. Negative commenting can,at the very least,stir the pot and,at best,trigger some action.
Hopefully,some of this negative commenting includes a call for the candidate(should the Democrats retain control of the House)to reject Nancy Pelosi's bid for re-election to House Speaker or anyone of her ilk such as Steny Hoyer.
We need someone who cares about doing what is necessary to serve the public interest and not their selfish interests.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 9/20/2008 @ 8:59 am PT...
Conyers is a toothless windbag and a prolific letter writer but time and time again takes no forceful action when required - so the Rethugs at bu$$hCo make a mockery of Demo constitutional powers for oversight and review.
Mukasey won't investigate, or prosecute election fraud by the Republican Party. Mukasey is an Alberto Gonzo clone, he does what addington, cheney, and bu$$hCo minions tell him to do and nothing more. The bu$$hCo US Justice Department is a tool to help the Rethug Party escape justice - and a weapon to decimate the Demos with malicious prosecutorial harassments - justice has been transformed into just-us and fuck the De-moc-RATS and the fair enforcement of the rule of law.
We can thank Schumer and Lady Feinstein for the green light that o-kayed the the Senate confirmation of the do nothing Zionist Fascist NeoCon bu$$hCo minion Mukasey. The only reason that Mukasey is there is to assure that the bu$$hCo admin gets a free pass to break the law.
Her knight in shining armor, why is she holding hands and dancing with the devil ?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 9/20/2008 @ 9:11 am PT...
When ladies get these cards are they taking them to the state Attorney General to file a suit against "Women's Voice". I'm assuming it is a RNC group. Until these crooks begin paying massive fines and jail terms, it will continue.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
John H Kennedy, Denver CO
said on 9/21/2008 @ 8:40 am PT...
IF THE House Democrats Do Not Announce the
Start Date Of Impeachment Hearings
PRIOR TO THE ELECTION
Some Democratic House and Senate Candidates
and McCain may win.
ALL VOTERS ARE HOLDING THEIR BREATH
WAITING TO SEE IF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
HAS A "SPINE"
To see if the Party gives a damn
about Their Constitution,
that binds us all and protects us all.
Tell the voters to "BLANK VOTE" the incumbent House Democrats that refuse to call for impeachment...
Guarantee that will get their attention.
John H Kennedy, Denver CO.
43 yr Democratic voter,
Obama delegate to the Denver County Convention,
organizer of the
Impeach Colorado Coalition http://ImpeachCO.com
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 9/21/2008 @ 5:06 pm PT...
If people understood the ratio in the house and senate then they would know unless we vote the Democrats into office with greater numbers, then they have no real power unless the Repucs cross the line and vote with them. Come on, that is Social Studies 101 also known as elementary school. When will people think for themselves and stop thriving off the B.S. on the slanted news!
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 9/22/2008 @ 10:12 am PT...
Apparently the Rethugs are up to another dirty trick.
Have you heard about this, Mr. Brad?
McCain camp sending out fake absentee ballots
These ballots are said to be misleading request for voters to send
in their early ballots to addresses out of State.
Have you heard about this, and if so, what can we do to stop this practice?
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 9/23/2008 @ 7:41 am PT...
Hey Old Turk, I'm with you. Most everyone now understands lie ber man was a mole, but I don't think most understand just what a mole feinSTEIN is!
Hey 99, see, I'm learnin.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 9/25/2008 @ 3:47 pm PT...
State House passes bill to protect foreclosed voters
By Eartha Jane Melzer 9/25/08 1:04 PM
The Democrat-led House passed a bill yesterday intended to keep voters who are dealing with home foreclosure from being challenged at the polls.
The bill is a response to reports published here that Michigan Republicans have planned to use foreclosure lists to challenge the eligibility of voters on Election Day.
The measure now heads to the Republican-led Senate.