READER COMMENTS ON
"GOP's ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Scam Rolls Out in MO...Right on Schedule..."
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 11:06 am PT...
Off topic, but I just heard the teaser for Talk of the Nation (NPR talk show). Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner will be on to talk about the election (I think I heard the words ballot security, but I wouldn't swear to it).
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 11:11 am PT...
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 12:51 pm PT...
Brad, it looks like Charlene Davis in MO may have inadvertently announced she is committing a crime, and perhaps a conspiracy.
In today's NY Times there is this:
Indiana, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio seem to be improperly using Social Security data to verify registration applications for new voters.
And in a Yahoo posted AP story, Charlene Davis is reported to have said this:
"I don't even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy," Davis said. "We have identified about 100 duplicates, and probably 280 addresses that don't exist, people who have driver's license numbers that won't verify or Social Security numbers that won't verify. Some have no address at all."
Maybe the next Attorney General is going to have to devote a whole task force to prosecuting Republican disenfranchisers.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 3:31 pm PT...
STEALING THE VOTES OF AMERICANS IS OUTRAGEOUS !!!
Acorn's voter fraud registration must be investigated. Also, Obama's involvement must be investigated. With the increasing number of anti-American racists and crooks surrounding Obama, we must insure that he does not steal this election. We must also investigate the legitimacy of Obama's foreign and domestic campaign contributions.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 4:32 pm PT...
And as usual, the Dems and the Obama campaign are apparently nowhere to be found...
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 6:28 pm PT...
I wouldn't surprise me if Republicans are behind the faulty voter registrations in ACORN to create a scandal. It's right out of the Karl Rove playbook. And it's funny how Republicans are NOW concerned about unfair elections, but not when the last two elections had rampant evidence of election fraud. Republicans strip voters of their rights with caging, purging, blackbox voting machines, etc.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 9:08 pm PT...
Well, for what it is worth, it is nice to finally see what it is that made Charlene take such Draconian measures when she had me arrested this past August.
I knew I had tripped into something but not exactly what it was.
Now, I know. It was her year to pull the trigger in Missouri.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 10/9/2008 @ 11:24 pm PT...
Is Debbie Democrat onto something? That Anderson Cooper show on CNN has been broadcasting a very negative report on ACORN. There really were a bunch of bogus registration forms.
Are Republicans and double-agent Democrats behind engineering a rationale to disenfranchise voters, and get mainstream media support in this? John McCain badmouthed ACORN in a stump speech.
The Obama campaign and Democratic Party would be well-advised to pull their heads out of the sand and respond to that.
Anyone who believes in democracy of whatever party and Barack Obama and his team need to wake up and emerge from the mists of denial.
They need to finally direct attention to election fraud and rigging in its various manifestations, point Anderson Cooper (appearances can be deceiving, but he at least comes across as less blatantly fascist than many others) and others in that direction of electronic election rigging.
Like John Kerry before him, Barack Obama will be in for a rude awakening when John McCain and Sarah Palin win the presidency via "surprise" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) election results.
Again, the media talking heads, scholars, and experts, will rationalize this and make things up as they go along to explain statistically impossible results, as they have done in previous elections.
Inspirational speakers charismatic evangelists will use the McCain presidency story as an underdog come-from-behind win.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 10/10/2008 @ 7:48 am PT...
They hate us for our freedoms.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 10/10/2008 @ 7:55 am PT...
Since when do you even need a Social Security number to vote? Am I wrong on this? If you can prove you are a U.S. Citizen and not a convicted felon, what else do you need to be able to vote?
Might as well tattoo your Social Slave Number on your arm. This what Bush, McShame, and all of their pals would like to do, but not to their friends in the "elite" of course. The U.S. is bankrupt and they know it. The primary asset left is us. Why do you think EVERYONE wants your SSN although on my old SSN card it clearly states for retirement purposes only, not to be used for identification? Colin Powell accidentally blurted out the truth on TV: The reason the SSN is so important to the feds is they can track you with it.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 10/10/2008 @ 9:03 am PT...
The "october surprise" this year is the economy / liquidity crisis.
Repugs are scared. They know McCain is going to lose to Obama, the only valid tactic they can think of is to put the country into full panic mode, hence Bush's "be scared" announcements. Maybe they think voters will somehow magically believe that Repugnant fiscal conservative policies (cough bullshit cough) will lure voters in November. Or at least thats the LOGIC they will tout when the election is stolen again in 2008.
2000 - Bush would be irreparably harmed by a recount of FL.
2004 - Evangelicals came out in force (yeah right).
2008 - People were scared of the economy and think McCain's deregulation policies will fix the economy (yeah right).
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 10/10/2008 @ 11:35 am PT...
Adam #8, it's all in the playbook over at the IRI.
Why not use at home what you use abroad?, or vice-versa
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 10/10/2008 @ 11:49 am PT...
...it's their JOB to rig elections
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 10/10/2008 @ 4:26 pm PT...
Thanks for your great reporting on the election disanfrisement by the GOP.
First they accuse the dems of fraud, them they steal votes with the computers when everyone's looking the wrong way- Not this time!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
woody, tokin librul
said on 10/11/2008 @ 8:14 am PT...
The "voter fraud" meme has only one rational purpose, since it has no counterpart in or really any material connection with reality.
It exists solely as a "balance" for the SCUM to propagandize to mute, defeat, or marginalize the Dim criticism (WELL, NOT "Dims" per se, they're too chickenshit to actually level substantive accusations, and leave it to folks like Palalst) of proven Puke tactics of Election Fraud.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 10/11/2008 @ 9:48 am PT...
Just keep right on registering voters. There will always be a few registrations in any batch that are not legit. Whether it's acorn or anyone else. Thats just statistics. More important since the reg. deadlines are approaching, get people to the polls in Nov.!! I will be renting a van to drive folks in redding, Ca. to vote. It wont cost me much more than $50.00 incl. gas.
By the way,illegitimate registration usually does not become a vote fraud. They are two different thing. When someone is paid to register people they have incentive to pad their numbers for more $. But lets face it. If they collect names from graveyards, these people will not be voting so there wont be voter fraud. Remember, two different issues. Mickey Mouse and Richard Nixon won't be voting either, but there is a good chance the person who registered them will get paid for the registration.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 10/11/2008 @ 9:54 am PT...
This is how to fix voting fraud once and for all:
Disney World makes your ticket-card instantly, by coding your info onto the card's black stripe (like your hotel room key). When you enter the park, you slide your card through the cardreader and place your index fingerprint into a scanner. You may only enter the turnstile one time! The exit turnstile at WDW makes a count to ensure the same number of people are going out.
If this has been done at Disney World for many years, it proves that the technology is available to use for fair voting practices... Ballots could be programmed on your card to read/scan at the exit turnstile, therefore giving a running total of votes and ensuring each vote is true and counted for each candidate, on a Wall Street-type ticker that everyone can see. This eliminates duplicate voting, Diebold et.al., and the need for exit-polling, as well.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
Anne in KC
said on 10/11/2008 @ 4:00 pm PT...
Brad, thanks so much for the coverage of the nonsense in Jackson County. It's really a mess. Last week I heard they had half as many registered voters as they had in 2004, then yesterday I heard there were twice as many. So I don't think anyone knows what's going on or what a mess it is going to be on Nov 4th.
And of course our local media is ignoring this. Grr.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 10/15/2008 @ 4:18 am PT...
Karl Rove behind ACORN fraud
As a child, Karl Rove was told the fable of “The boy who cried wolf.” When asked if he knew what the moral of the story was, young Karl replied, “Yes! Never tell the same lie twice.”
In keeping to that lesson, and knowing that no candidate he has supported could ever win on merit alone, Rove has practiced a life-long philosophy of deception, prevarication, distraction and newspeak. From planting bugs in his own office, to leaking false stories to make the national press look bad, to plain old voter suppression, Rove has run an ugly and effective campaign against the truth.
Fortunately, Rove’s own bad press has been catching up with him, such as in the scandal surrounding the firing of eight U. S. attorneys. David C. Iglesias of New Mexico lost his job in December 2005 after he declined to prosecute a voter-fraud case against ACORN, which had been registering large numbers of voters in the state's low-income and largely minority neighborhoods in 2004. Prominent New Mexico Republicans, including U.S. Senator Pete Domenici, had repeatedly complained to chief White House political strategist Karl Rove about Iglesias' failure to bring voter-fraud indictments. Once Iglesias said he couldn't prove a case against ACORN, his days were numbered.
ACORN became a target because of its successful voter-registration work. As the 2004 election approached, then-Attorney-General John Ashcroft launched a broad initiative to crack down on supposed voter fraud in battleground states, including Florida, Missouri, Ohio and New Mexico, where ACORN was making headway registering voters. In all of those states, Republicans filed suits against ACORN for voter fraud, and, in every case, ACORN was exonerated.
Seeing that that strategy has not been gaining enough of a foothold, Rove has unleashed a new campaign that would make a cowbird or cuckoo proud.
The Brown-headed Cowbird and the Cuckoo are well known for the practice of laying eggs in the nests of other species. The host mother is tricked into raising the chick as one of her own. Because the parasitic bird is usually larger and stronger, it takes most of the food the mother brings, starving out the other chicks.
In other words, since Rove could not beat ACORN with outside pressure, his lackeys have been planted inside ACORN. There, they have gone wild with multiple registrations, fake names, dead applicants, and simply paying homeless people to register. (By the way, homeless people can vote. Paying them to do so is illegal.)
The endgame in all of this is two-fold. First, Rove hopes to clog the system with so many bad registrations, that there will be a multitude of legitimate voters who will never make the final cut. And second, the issues being raised by Republicans regarding ACORN are being used as a smokescreen for what they are doing behind the scenes to suppress Democratic voter turnout. Using foreclosure lists to try to prevent people from voting; saying a person cannot vote without a government-approved photo identification; being kept from voting because you have an unpaid parking ticket, are behind on your child support, have a felony conviction or have filed for bankruptcy; illegally purging voters from the qualified voter list, and sending out absentee ballot applications to Democrats with the wrong return address.
These tactics are the lowest of the low, but it is rig ht up Karl Rove’s alley. This might not be his last gasp, but the American voter can certainly make him crawl back into the slime-hole for much longer. We won in 2006, but not with as large of a margin if Rove and his attack dogs had not muddled up the works. This year we need to not just win, but win by such an overwhelming majority that these deviant behaviors will be purged from our national consciousness. We need to make them think twice before ever raising their ugly faces from the mud again.
As The Donald would say, “Rove, you’re fired!”
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 10/17/2008 @ 1:00 pm PT...
The Help America Vote Act of 2002 requires that states compare information contained on voter registration apps to information in the states motor vehicles databases and the Social Security database in order to confirm that it is an accurate and valid registration (Sec. 241(b)3) - clearly states requirements for making information available to polling sites. The Ohio Sec. of State has been "performing" these confirmations (she claims) but in secret, and will not share the information with election boards locally or the public (Sec. 206). This is a clear attempt to withhold information, which would probably prove ACORN as a fraudulent organization and cut their funding + include some jail time. In court, withholding information is considered criminal.
This is not some new law (since she claims that she didn't have time to prepare to validate these registrations), she had plenty of time to comply with the law - but she thinks that she is above the law and wants to protect her party and friends.
You know (on a personal note), I have to now question who does she owe the favor to that she needs to be protecting possible criminal actions? Is it the Democrat Party, Obama or Satan himself?