Counting Minnesota & Watching the Watchers

Franken Gains in First Day of Counting, Media Play Fast and Loose with Numbers, GOP Prepares for the Worst...

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We’ve predicted since Election Day that Al Franken’s chances of winning the U.S. Senate seat in Minnesota are excellent. News tonight, out of the state where a manual count of the paper ballots began today, may already be bearing out that prediction, though it’s far too early to know for sure. Franken, so far, has gained about 30 votes on the incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman on the first day of counting, bring the gap between the two to just 172 votes.

The race was previously determined, by the faulty and easily manipulated ES&S and Diebold ballot-scanning machines initially used to tabulate the paper ballots, to have given an edge of little more than 200 votes in favor of Coleman, out of nearly 3 million ballots cast.

That hasn’t stopped Coleman from desperately and prematurely declaring “victory” — hey, it worked for Dubya in 2000, and he was able to successfully take that to the Supreme Court, after all! — nor has it kept the GOP conspiracy theorists and potential sore-losers from declaring all manner of unsubstantiated claims of “fraud” and attempts to “steal the election.”

But as the hand count moves slowly forward — and as I may be “off the grid,” or otherwise unable to keep up with every beat as quickly as usual over the next several weeks — I’d ask that you folks keep a very close eye on a very important point likely to reveal itself (to those who pay attention) during this count…

Back during the election contest hand-counts following this year’s New Hampshire Primary, officials in the state carried off some misleading sleight-of-hand that the mainstream corporate media were all too happy (and lazy) to report repeat to readers. The scam worked like this:

If two precincts, for example, were hand-counted and in one it was found that Hillary Clinton actually had 10 more votes than the Diebold machines originally reported, and in the other Barrack Obama was found to have had 11 more votes than originally reported, state officials (and the lazy media) would report that: “Today’s recount found little change in the results, with Barrack Obama picking up just a single vote against Hillary Clinton.”

In truth, 21 votes had been miscounted in that scenario, but to officials and the public, it would become a nearly perfect count, off by only a single vote. Had Obama gained 10 instead of 11 in that scenario, the media would have said “the hand count has revealed no errors from the original machine count.”

Misleading and deceptive? Of course. Please watch for that happening in MN. The machine miscounts in NH revealed, even in the limited number of ballots hand-counted there, an enormous error-rate, well in excess of that allowable by federal law. But it was downplayed because some of the miscounts “evened each other out” and because states have a great self-interest in making their election systems look as good as possible to the public, no matter how bad they may be.

You can help counter that nonsense, if you pay close attention.

Today’s numbers…

“The scoreboard reads 0-0 with 2.9 million to go,” Franken attorney Marc Elias correctly noted before today’s hand-count began.

“We do not know the winner…until the completion of the process,” said MN’s Sec. of State Mark Ritchie.

They were both correct, unlike Coleman, who had already declared victory. “The only person who has declared Norm Coleman the winner of anything is Norm Coleman,” Franken spokesman Andy Barr noted, as reported in MinnPost.com’s excellent coverage of today’s proceedings.

The Minnesota Independent reported tonight’s results, noting Franken’s gains, after the first day of counting:

Al Franken closed his vote count gap with incumbent Norm Coleman to 172 on Wednesday, the first day of Minnesota’s statewide U.S. Senate election recount. Both candidates lost votes as officials recounted by hand slightly more than 15 percent of 2.9 million ballots cast “” but Coleman lost 70 and Franken only 27.

As mentioned above, the numbers “lost” by both candidates is somewhat misleading, e.g., the Independent went on to report that “Hennepin County’s manual recount of barely more than 1 percent of ballots cast had Coleman losing seven votes and Franken gaining one.”

In truth, a quick look tonight at the tiny number of ballots counted in Hennepin today show that Coleman actually lost seven votes, while Franken gained two but lost one from the original machine tally:

That’s a very minor example of what I was mentioning above, on a very small number of ballots, but you get the idea. I can’t comb through the numbers right now to search for more egregious examples, but I welcome you to do so. Each day’s manual count numbers will be available after 8pm CT via this link.

The Fraud Fraudsters…

Finally, tonight, by way of preempting the cries of “voter fraud” that will come from the GOP when/if their man falls behind in the count (they are already making such cries, but expect them to become increasingly louder and even more obnoxious), the Star-Tribune offers an excellent editorial today that begins this way:

Accusations about improper election procedures have been hurled with abandon by combatants in Minnesota’s U.S. Senate battle, which enters its recount phase today. But it’s worth noting that neither the Al Franken nor Norm Coleman camps has accused election officials of allowing significant numbers of ineligible people to vote. The two campaigns’ close scrutiny of events on Nov. 4 apparently has found nothing notably defective in either the voter registration or sign-in that occurred at the polls.

That’s the way it has been in every election since Minnesota began allowing voters to register at the polls in 1973. Ramsey County elections manager Joe Mansky said that, in his 24 years as a state and county elections administrator, the number of cases of orchestrated group efforts to subvert the law by registering improperly or voting multiple times has been “exactly zero.”

Imagine that, voters get to register at the polls on Election Day and there are “exactly zero” examples of improprieties. By all means, let’s not do that in the rest of the country any time soon!

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    Floridiot said on 11/20/2008 @ 1:05am PT: [Permalink]

    If I know the real Minnesotans (DFLers), this will be a straight up recount that will show that the machines are flawed and they won’t be afraid to say it either.

    They won’t let some interloper from Jersey (Coleman) come in and steal it.

    But the national “librul” media will cover this up, you can bet on it.

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    john harris said on 11/20/2008 @ 1:37am PT: [Permalink]

    to Floridiot: Having a national “librul” media is a complete and total myth. The mainstream media stopped being liberal after Reagan did away with the Fairness Doctrine and it has been downhill eversince. The big media simply won’t discuss that the Nov 2004 was stolen by GOP operatives, no matter what. That has nothing to do with “librul” it has to do with not wanting to rock the boat with the incumbent administration that used banana republic tactics to stay in power no matter what. “librul” ? that’s a laugh. more like corrupt and selectively ignorant.

    my guess is coleman’s lawyers will sue to stop the recount as soon as it becomes apparent that Franken is leading. They’ll appeal all the way up to the SCOTUS to stop the recount and will use the damn Gore vs Bush precedent which was spearheaded by a very corrupt Scalia.

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    Steve said on 11/20/2008 @ 1:58am PT: [Permalink]

    John-

    Your comments were right on but I hope you realize that Floridiot, a regular commenter here, was being sarcastic and using Rethuglispeak when he called the national media “librul”.

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    Floridiot said on 11/20/2008 @ 5:33am PT: [Permalink]

    Steve, I think John was just elaborating on the “librul” part…it does strike a painful chord in a lot of people, maybe he didn’t know I was being sarcastic? Maybe I’m too cynical?…oh well, guilty as charged 😛

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    czaragorn said on 11/20/2008 @ 10:52am PT: [Permalink]

    Boy, my Spidey sense is tingling up a bloody storm – if the repugs are screaming and moaning and getting nervous and puking about “voter fraud” in Minnesota, well, any good poker player who had been observing the monkey business of this century would point to the “tell” and warn us to triple our guard against such shenanigans perpetrated by the newly scrupulous repulsicon election observers. It works every time – they helplessly telegraph their intentions every single time, be the issue “family values” or election corruption or any other damned issue. Wake up, people! It’s time to reread Orwell and Huxley, in my opinion!!!

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    TEDEGER said on 11/20/2008 @ 11:09am PT: [Permalink]

    Fortunately, the SCOTUS said, in 2000, that their decision was not to be used as a precednt for anything. I would hope they weren’t lying.

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    Veman said on 11/20/2008 @ 8:04pm PT: [Permalink]

    I downloaded the vote count from whatever was published today at http://electionresults.sos.stat...ateRecount.asp
    In Excel, in each row I subtracted Coleman’s recount number from the November 4th number to get a net for each precinct. I did the same for Franken.
    I summed the Net numbers and got -212 for Coleman, and -126 for Franken, indicating that Coleman had lost 76 more votes than Franken. If that’s 46 more than what was counted yesterday, then Franken is now just 126 votes behind, and gaining. I hope Franken wins by just one vote – then everyone who voted for him can feel personally responsible.

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