Okay. Holder gets our vote. Courtesy of David Swanson:
Eric Holder just told the Senate Judiciary Committee that the behavior of president Bush has been illegal, and that he, Eric Holder, will uphold the rule of law. It will be very hard to maintain those positions and not prosecute or appoint a Special Counsel to prosecute Bush’s crimes.
Here’s roughly what was said:
10:29 a.m. Leahy: is “waterboarding” torture and illegal?
Holder: yes, it is torture.
Leahy: Can other nations legally torture Americans?
Holder: No.
Leahy: Can President of the United States immunize acts of torture?
Holder: Nobody is above the law. President has Constitutional obligation to enforce the laws. We have laws and treaties. The president acts most forcefully and has the greatest power when consistent with Congressional intent and directives. The president does NOT have the power that you have indicated.
Leahy: Washington Post yesterday reported that the top Bush Admin. official on military commissions says we tortured a detainee.
Good news, but I’ll believe it when I see it — been let down too many times.
We must keep an unrelenting pressure on Holder and Obama if we expect justice to prevail.
I’m with Onyx…impossible to just ‘believe’ it’ll happen, but….JESUS CHRISTMAS would that be sweet.
I expected no less. I am so thankful that Holder was definite about Bush Co being simply wrong.
That is one amazing subtitle. Can this be happening?
Why don’t one of you get on down to CHANGE.GOV?
and post your IDEA!? hmm?
Instead of sitting here wishing.
Search for your TOPIC, then vote it up! Or if it don’t exist.. LIKE um, oh let’s say….
Abusive Use Of Electronics In Elections Must Be Outlawed For example….
Come on.. Get Busy, there is only what four days? Wasted one day already? (since I didn’t even know about it till yesterday in the DVN.!!)
And to those of you who DID vote for me. THANKS. But you know it’s your OWN COUNTRY your standing up for!
I think this is like one of the main things that angers me. Is that there seems to be only a handfull of us that care. IN THIS WHOLE COUNTRY only a handfull! Everyone else seems to be brainwashed by the giant blogs, nobody is thinking for them self. I am sick of it.
If you want electronic voting machines IGNORE ME!
Words are notoriously cheap, and words spoken by candidates for appointments to Cabinet-level positions, at least in recent years, aren’t worth used toilet paper. Nonetheless, I’m greatly heartened by Mr. Holder’s statements. I truly hope this doesn’t motivate the giggling murderer to pre-emptively pardon every miscreant in his “administration.” I mean, I really don’t ever have to repatriate myself, but I still love my native land and many of her residents, and, frankly, a dangerous America makes for a dangerous rest of the world. The first step to righting the myriad wrongs is certainly in the direction of The Hague. Go get ’em, Mr. Holder!!! Don’t fold ‘er…
This guarantees that Holder will not be confirmed as the Democrats & rethugs will vote against him.
I think it is quite obvious to anyone with even a room temp IQ that the Democrats are just as guilty of the crimes the past 8 years as the Rethugs/Neofascist are.
There is no logical or valid reason that Pelosi did not Impeach both Bush & Cheney except that she and many others are guilty of being complicit in the crimes and the cover ups.
there is only ONE way these criminals will ever see justice served and that is through citizens groups like maybe Vincent Bugliosi, or also International bodies like the Hague, the UN, International Criminal Court etc.
The democrats have proven well beyond any doubt that they are going to do nothing.
[ed note: Overactive spam filter gland is picking on you! Very sorry. I’ve been at the doctor and away. –99]
Even if he does pursue prosecution for waterboarding, you KNOW that the buck would stop at some military level (colonel? General?) and only in a pipe dream would make it as far as the Sec of Defense. Bush would almost certainly have ‘plausible deniability’ personally.
Still, I think prosecuting illegal government activities would be good step to show both our own citizens as well as the world that noone is above the law in a democracy.
Ahh that is what it was.
thanks 99.
Disillusioned, hard to have a valid “plausible deniablity” excuse when you are caught red handed on video tape admitting numerous crimes.
If he were to ever see the inside of a courtroom any decent lawyer could hang him out to dry easily.
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Yeah, even PBS already aired a doc called “Torturing Democracy” that showed it went all the way to the top.
Yes, Holder’s statements are very encouraging for all of us who want to see this criminal Bush administration be held accountable for the many dead and injured and traumatized people they have left behind them. Holder was appropriately cautious and responsible in his statements, considering he has yet to review the evidence and reports cited by Feinstein, et al.
Holder is supposed to be a bit independent in judgment from the President. It is more appropriate for Holder to make decisions on the prosecution of Bush/Cheney and their cohorts’ crimes than it is for Obama, and so Holder’s statements on these matters are actually more important.
[ed note: Sorry, caught in spam filter for no good reason. –99]
“Nobody is above the law, Nobody is above the law, Nobody is above the law…”
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lets hope for some justice?