Was it the U2 concert?

We all saw that live already.

Anybody want to listen to an hour of Michael Parenti on fascism yet?

You should.

It's going to sound mighty familiar....

Is there more footage of Grayson available. I can't get enough of that guy.

Not U2, not Grayson...Back to editing...

October 28 Day of Action for Single Payer Health Care
http://mobilizeforhealth...26/october-28th-sit-ins/

Tegan and Sara @ Orpheum Theatre

Flashmob @ Union Station
LA Beer Week: October 15 - 25, 2009

Tea Party Express II

DJ Quick @ Key Club
Black Eyed Peas @ Rosebowl
"The Los Angeles Walk for Hope"

Visit a pumpkin patch within an hour of LA

Hidden Camera @ Secret ES&S meeting?

Live Action News, Coverage of the overturning and rollback of Arnold Schwarzenegger's fucked up bills?

Massive Bankster arrest (you said something about fun)

Truth about the corporate media push for swine flu shots, and the dangerous crap in the shot, fake National Emergency.

You and Desi, that's naughty! Just kidding. The suspense is killing me...

Brad will bust open ufc 104 at Staples Ctr where shogun got robbed

regarding the OT aspect of this thread, what's your 2 cents on this:

http://www.wired.com/thr...vel/2009/10/open-source/

always thought it would have been a great college/univeristy design/competition project

I take it that the Feeblees are checkin' out Sibs testimony?, too quiet lately.

Maybe they can tie Ivins to it somehow

tofubo,

It's a bad idea. The Software doesn't matter when the hardware which it runs on can not be checked. OSV doesn't even consider this. To my knowledge, they don't even acknowledge this as a real threat.

MASSIVE FAIL

They also don't consider the voter can not see the electronic signal, (a continuation of the same BS game) so not even the voter can know what's really happening inside of any arrangement of chips by any manufacturer. Anyone could have exploited the vote and nobody would be wiser.

"Electronic vote tabulation devices" must be outlawed nationally. Software running on all such devices is moot point.

Octo Mom shopping for Halloween costumes?
Jon and Kate making #9?
Balloon Boys dad finally getting to his box o'questions?

Thank gawd I can be assured it wont be anything the corporate media is covering

A recruiting event for FBI translators?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com...192/ns/us_news-security/

*Please be banker/Fed treasury arrests*

Ooh, an open thread! Just came across this video and am reposting here:

What You Didn't Know About The War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsrMzfhdmkU

Incendiary. Show this to everyone. Obusha and the US war and terror machine must be stopped.

Scott Horton interviews Sibel Edmonds and John M. Cole

Agent 99:

I've been listening to Sibel and John on the Peter B. Collins show, and it is fascinating!

Podcast #57.

Hey everyone. There's going to be a money bomb to fund a documentary about democracy through history and the National Initiative for Democracy (click my name) on 11/10/09. The National Initiative is basically a campaign for ballot initiatives on all levels of government. So if you could donate a few bucks that would be extremely helpful - we're doing this on an all volunteer basis, but we need to pay for things like film and travelling, so every dollar really does count.

I'm going to venture out on a limb here and prognosticate that Brad does not have a bright future in video editing.... Of course, the possibility still remains that he could, posthumously, garner a cult following for his decade-long processes of distilling many, many minutes down to their absolute essence....

LMAO Niners, we have another Howard Hughes thang happenin' here.

Are we bathing OK?

Are you, by chance, referring to my ongoing problem with that not-a-bathtub atrocity presuming to reside in my bathroom? I am forced to shower, even now that I am lithe and healthy! I mean to tell you, that imposture in the other room is a constant source of irritation. No wonder there are hand-holds bolted all over in there! Should you be so unlucky as to have wedged yourself in, there is no other way out!

I debase myself nearly daily, begging for my wealthy socialist gentleman so that I might at last be free of this indignity, return to my daily bath, soak my aching self, conquer the world, restore perfection to the cosmos... but, nooooooo.....

It's a test of my Zen. I'm sure of it.

lol, no, I was talking about Brads film editing problem, it reminded me of Hughes who could never get a take quite right. It must have been hell in the cutting room back then. Next stage comes the hard time keeping your appearance up if you follow the path of Howard, hence the bathing problem.

Why do people think health care is a right?

A right is something a person possesses by themselves in their own person.

Health care is a service that has to be provided another person other than the person.
Saying that a person has a right to health care means that you are saying a second person must be forced to provide a service to the first person who is assumed to have the right of health care.
That sounds alot like slavery.

Well, you guys might have guessed where I was had you bothered to check my Twitter feed. But that said, Phil @ 7 guessed it, but only by throwing everything at the wall (which can be his wont, if you haven't noticed )

As to the time it took to edit, yeah, LOTS of good footage, much sadness about what I had to choose to NOT show you, regret for the imperfection of it all given the speed I was working (believe it or not), and yeah, teaching myself how to use a new video editor at the same time. Hope you'll enjoy the results nonetheless, Part 1 of which is now posted here. Part 2 still uploading as I try to finally get some shuteye at 5:22am PT!

Tofubo - It's way too late (early?) for me to dive in your question for the moment, but I'm sure I will here in the future. For the record, I was at the same event Kim Zetter wrote about in her article. For now, I'm happy to defer to Phil's reply to you, and not just because he had a lucky guess on the other question

Konstantin - Wow. "Slavery", huh? Talk about a stretch. Well, I guess the civil right to have "a second person ... forced to provide a service" like allowing you to eat at their establishment, even if your African American for instance, or allowing you to sit in the front of a bus, isn't a "right" either. There goes either decades of rights laws and battles in this country, OR you ridiculous definition. My suggestion: it's the latter. Back to start. Try again.

Brad,

the point I was making, though you didn't see it that way, is that a "right" is something else. People just aren't thinking through the definitions of what a right is. I meant a right like the right to free speech, etc.

There's this site I just found called Libertarian Papers.
http://libertarianpapers.org

They have a podcast. One of them deals with "samaritan rights". Have just started listening to it but so far it resembles the so called right to health care.
Here is the link for that podcast episode:
http://libertarianpapers.../podcast/2009/lp-1-1.mp3

I should briefly further clarify about a right, like the right to free speech.

Government doesn't grant the right. It is something the individual possesses. The Constitution says government is prohibited from infringing the right. Therefore the right , as the founding fathers, believed is preexisting.

Sorry wrong podcast episode.

Here is the relevant one about samaritan rights, podcast #6:

http://www.libertarianpa.../podcast/2009/lp-1-6.mp3

Konstantin said:

People just aren't thinking through the definitions of what a right is. I meant a right like the right to free speech, etc.

I think that's true. But YOU may be one of those people, Konst! I too did not fully appreciate health care as a human right, until the notion was presented to me some years ago (while I was at the Carter Center for a conference, actually).

Since then, I've pondered much on that point, and have come to appreciate and agree with it. Hope you will do same.

The Constitution says government is prohibited from infringing the right.

It also says it is to "provide for the general welfare." Hopefully that --- and common decency, and common sense, and a sense of basic human morality --- should keep the Libertarians satisfied.

Your mindset is not an uncommon one in this country. No surprise given our history of private health care bloodsuckers. That needs to change. The time is now and its longer overdue that the U.S. join the civilized and humane nations of the world in understanding that.