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"Voter Fraud Queen Ann Coulter Joins the ACORN 'Pimp' Hoax Lying Game"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/7/2010 @ 6:11 pm PT...
While I know you provided the links, I thought, Brad, it appropriate to highlight several points made in your March 30, 2006 piece:
In "February the Palm Beach Post reported that "conservative" extremist Ann Coulter may have committed a vote fraud felony by signing someone else's address to her registration form in Florida and then voting in the wrong precinct."
Coulter then "claimed publicly she didn't even live in Palm Beach where she reportedly committed the crime."
The "Palm Beach Property Appraisers Public Access system which shows an "Ann H Coulter" who purchased a $1.8 million dollar property on Seabreeze Ave. in Palm Beach in March of 2005."
I guess it pays to be a deceptive mouthpiece for the billionaire funded hard-right.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 3/7/2010 @ 9:23 pm PT...
She's hurtin' if that's a recent picture of her.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 8:05 am PT...
Here is what I find hypocritical. All these right wingers are so offended that Acorn would "break the law" by advising people to hide their taxes from the government. They are so outraged over this supposed crime. After all, people should respect the government and pay their taxes!
Expect the right wing hates the IRS and the government. Just look at the tea baggers. Look at how much they praised that wackjob who flew a plane into the IRS building. That guy was treated like a hero by the right-wing for sticking it to the man and for attacking an organization they see as oppressive and illegitimate.
Yet they don't seem to see that discrepancy.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 9:00 am PT...
Cue Patrick Frey to defend Coulter's voter fraud
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 9:19 am PT...
Hmmm... there is documented evidence of ACORN volunteers turning in registration forms with Disney character names. How far do we want to stretch the legal definition of fraud?
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 9:41 am PT...
So Brook, what would you have ACORN do with those forms when volunteers turn them in? When ACORN receives questionable registrations my understanding is that they have actually flagged them as such when they sent them in. What other option do they have? Do you seriously think that no other voter registration effort produces similar issues? Are they just supposed to throw out the registrations that they think are non legitimate? Wouldn't that be illegal?
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 10:08 am PT...
Close, Bob @ (#4). No Hornblowin' Hoopy D.A. (yet)... but Brook's back.
I'll field this one...
Brook, only one rebuke to put your idiotic comment to bed: the (handful of) ACORN workers who wrote "Micky Mouse" et al on those registrations were turned in BY ACORN, as required by law, and fired. No laws were broken.
Thank you for playing. Try again never.
(Or, after you've caught up on your reading here re: the years and years of PHONY, BOGUS voter fraud FRAUD you've been lied to about by your pals at Fox, while the REAL voter fraud perpetrated by the nasty-tranny Ann Coulter isn't anywhere on your radar.)
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 10:09 am PT...
This kind of veers off topic...
McConnell blasts RNC fundraising document
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-K.Y.) denounced a recently uncovered Republican National Committee PowerPoint presentation that included depictions of President Obama as the Joker and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) as Cruella DeVille. The presentation, created by RNC Finance Director Rob Bickhart and first reported Wednesday by Politico, suggested that the committee raise money by playing on public fear of an impending march toward socialism under the Obama administration.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 10:12 am PT...
Ah! ~ Steve had already adressed Brook's shameful willful ignorance while I was typing. Apologies for feeding Brook twice.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 10:47 am PT...
Sorry Brooky but as required by law ACORN has to turn in registrations even if they know them to be fake. It is up to the state to sort out the bad ones from the good. Now this is as opposed to a group in Las Vegas who was being investigated for throwing out legal voter registrations because they only wanted to register republicans.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 11:16 am PT...
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 12:13 pm PT...
Brook @ 5 continued his/her clueless streak with:
there is documented evidence of ACORN volunteers turning in registration forms with Disney character names. How far do we want to stretch the legal definition of fraud?
No stretching required. Those registration forms were fraudulent and turned over, as required by law, to officials, with a notice that they appeared to be fraudulent, and a request that officials prosecute those employees who had defrauded ACORN by turning them in in the first place!
The thanks they get is clueless folks like you charging ACORN with fraud, when they were the ones to uncover it in the first place.
Contrast that, of course with Coulter's very real voter fraud and voter registration fraud as described above, and the very real voter registration fraud by the head of the CA GOP's own voter registration firm, Mark Anthony Jacoby of Young Political Majors. His fraud, on behalf of the entire company (unlike the case with ACORN, which had nothing to do with the fraud, other than uncovering it), likely denied thousands of legal voters from being able to cast their legal vote.
Here's Jacoby's guilty plea. Here's me on Fox "News" reporting it all, amidst Fox ignoring it all even as they reported endlessly, at the very same time, on the bogus, unfounded charges of ACORN "voter fraud".
You now have a clue. You're welcome. Please take that back to your next Tea Bagger party.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 12:37 pm PT...
How often are you going to lie about ACORN's documented history of vote fraud? Two employees were JUST TODAY indicted in Wisconsin for vote fraud. But I guess there wasn't any "known shred of evidence" to actually support that indictment, or any of the other charges, guilty pleas and convictions.
Stop the lies, Brad.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 1:17 pm PT...
Wow! Two whole people that worked at Acorn! What a huge scandal! They were accused of registering people multiple times to vote multiple times, but are not accused of actually voting multiple times. I think the Kentucky election fraud is much more relevant. They actually changed the results of elections, unlike the two Wisconsin Acorn workers who apparently were just trying to meet registration quotas imposed by Acorn.
Five Wisconsin residents have been charged with criminal counts of voter fraud in the November 2008 general election, state Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen announced today.
Two of those charged, Maria Miles and Kevin Clancy, are workers for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the embattled community group.
"The complaint alleges that Miles and Clancy submitted multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals, and also were part of a scheme in which they and other (special registration deputies) registered each other to vote multiple times in order to meet voter registration quotas imposed by ACORN," Van Hollen states in the release.
Also charged were a couple accused of double voting - once absentee and once at the polls - and a felon who cast a ballot even though he was still on probation for a felony offense.
Read more at the Washington Examiner:
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 1:21 pm PT...
P.s. Vote fraud involves people actually voting fraudulently, not just registering people fraudulently. Who is the liar?
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 1:37 pm PT...
Brad Freidman gets caught lying yet again. Quelle surprise!
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 1:44 pm PT...
They're as dependable as belches after beer...
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 2:12 pm PT...
It's heartwarming to know that those who despise ACORN and the poor in America are receiving your updates Brad. It improves the chances that they will, at least, maybe, learn a fact or two.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 2:28 pm PT...
Well, the old standby Republican smear tactic of voter fraud allegations-immediately before elections- was part and parcel why nine DOJ attorneys were fired by the Bush administration.
The DOJ attorneys refused to go along with the ruse. It cost them their jobs-but it cost a host of folks like Alberto Gonzales,Kyle Sampson and Monica Goodling their jobs,too...in addition to public hearings with lots of amnesia from Gonzales and pleading thye fifth from Goodling.
Here's an excerpt from Wiki:
Dismissed attorneys and elections
The controversy surrounding the U.S. Attorneys dismissals was often linked to elections or voter-fraud issues. Allegations were that some of the U.S. Attorneys were dismissed for failing to instigate investigations damaging to Democratic politicians, or for failing to more aggressively pursue voter-fraud cases. The background to the allegations is the recent tendency for elections in parts of the United States to be very close; an election outcome can be affected by a mere announced investigation of a politician. Indeed, it is explicit policy of the Department of Justice to avoid bringing voter-related cases during an election for this reason. The pursuit of voter fraud cases was an acknowledged political strategy of the Republican Party by 2006. The use of U.S. Attorneys for partisan purposes is highly improper, particularly given the strong non-partisan traditions of the U.S. Attorneys. In September 2008, the Inspector General for the Department of Justice concluded that some of the dismissals were motivated by the refusal of some of the U.S. Attorneys to prosecute voter fraud cases during the 2006 election cycle.
You thinkan attitude of audacity that would go after DOJ lawyers, would show ACORN any mercy?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 2:33 pm PT...
Funny how it is always noobs that call Brad a liar. If you hang around enough, you will realize he, in fact, is not lying, and has copious amounts of proof. Fact check and ye shall be blessed.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 2:41 pm PT...
Chris Hooten @20
Fact check and ye shall be blessed.
You're kidding right ?
Tools/Trolls for Right wing propagandists don't fact check...They're just aimed and fired.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/8/2010 @ 3:38 pm PT...
Re Brook @5 & Brian Garst @13.
Thought I'd give you "tea-baggers" a little tickler from the piece I will soon be posting:
According to yet another official report on the matter from the Congressional Research Service [PDF] released late last year, as commissioned by U.S. House Judiciary Committee, as of October 2009, there have been 46 reported federal, state, and local investigations concerning ACORN; 11 still pending. None have established a single instance in which an individual, improperly registered by ACORN or its employees, has then attempted "to vote at the polls." The study reveals that ACORN themselves is often the initiator of official complaints against employees who defraud them, when they turn in fraudulent registrations.
Oh, and John @16 --- If Patterico wants to play the "Brad is a liar" tune, tell him to come bring his own guitar rather than encourage his wing-nut followers to come over and hit his atonal notes for him.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/8/2010 @ 3:41 pm PT...
By the way, Brook, did you ever stop to consider the fact that it is one thing for some fool to fill out a registration form for Mickey Mouse, quite another for that individual to get Mr. Mouse down to the polls to cast a vote.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 6:12 pm PT...
Again veering off topic...(but related to the ACORN hit job)
Calling All Rebels
by Chris Hedges
There are no constraints left to halt America's slide into a totalitarian capitalism. Electoral politics are a sham. The media have been debased and defanged by corporate owners. The working class has been impoverished and is now being plunged into profound despair. The legal system has been corrupted to serve corporate interests. Popular institutions, from labor unions to political parties, have been destroyed or emasculated by corporate power. And any form of protest, no matter how tepid, is blocked by an internal security apparatus that is starting to rival that of the East German secret police. The mounting anger and hatred, coursing through the bloodstream of the body politic, make violence and counter-violence inevitable. Brace yourself. The American empire is over. And the descent is going to be horrifying.
Those singled out as internal enemies will include people of color, immigrants, gays, intellectuals, feminists, Jews, Muslims, union leaders and those defined as "liberals." They will be condemned as anti-American and blamed for our decline. The economic collapse, which remains mysterious and enigmatic to most Americans, will be pinned by demagogues and hatemongers on these hapless scapegoats. And the random acts of violence, which are already leaping up around the fringes of American society, will justify harsh measures of internal control that will snuff out the final vestiges of our democracy. The corporate forces that destroyed the country will use the information systems they control to mask their culpability. The old game of blaming the weak and the marginal, a staple of despotic regimes, will empower the dark undercurrents of sadism and violence within American society and deflect attention from the corporate vampires that have drained the blood of the country.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/8/2010 @ 7:37 pm PT...
Actually, Blue Hawk, the Hedges piece is very much "on topic" --- a point which will be reinforced when you read my next ACORN article --- coming soon, I promise.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/8/2010 @ 8:37 pm PT...
Brad, Almost amusing to go back and watch your appearance on Fox News. It's obvious that when you made the distinction between "registration fraud" and "voter fraud" it sailed right over John Fund's head. He didn't have a clue what you were talking about.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 3/8/2010 @ 9:52 pm PT...
Ernest @ 26:
It's obvious that when you made the distinction between "registration fraud" and "voter fraud" it sailed right over John Fund's head. He didn't have a clue what you were talking about.
Well...in truth, I think Fund knows the topic well enough to have known damned well what I was talking about. (He wrote a bullshit book on it, after all).
You may be confusing that look on his face that appeared to be not knowing what I was talking about with, in reality, his confusion upon being on Fox "News" and someone, anyone, was making the CORRECT distinction, and calling him out on it!
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/9/2010 @ 4:32 am PT...
Hmmm. Well Brad, I supposed right-wing guests on the Fox "News" network are accustomed to one-way propaganda and dumbfounded when the network breaks with that format because Fund looked like a thunderstruck idiot when he appeared opposite you.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
said on 3/9/2010 @ 8:58 am PT...
Speaking of propaganda,propaganda is exactly what Harvard's Institute of Politics guest speakers will be discussing ,according to their 2010 announcement :
Harvard's Spring 2010 Study Group is entitled
"Propaganda in Today's American Politics".
The roster of upcoming speakers they posted include:
March 11th - Jenny Beth Martin and Mark Meckler, National Coordinators of Tea Party Patriots, the core of the Tea Party movement that is founded on a distrust of what many in government do and say.
April 1st - John Fund of The Wall Street Journal, one of America’s most prominent journalists and columnists. Also author of Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy.
April 8th - Andrew Breitbart, one of America’s most successful developers of new media. An editor of The Drudge Report and a primary developer for The Huffington Post, and publisher of multiple major websites that include Breitbart.com, BigHollywood.com, BigGovernment.com and BigJournalism.com.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
said on 3/9/2010 @ 9:04 am PT...
John Fund introduces new falsehoods in 2008 version of Stealing ...6 posts - 3 authors - Last post: Oct 1, 2008
Some background information on the scumbag known as John Fund: ... calls Reid's linking of unemployment to domestic abuse a "scare tactic" ...
mediamatters.org/research/200809300024 - Cached - Similar
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 3/9/2010 @ 9:11 am PT...
The Rightwing Witch Hunt Against ACORN - 1 day ago
... ACORN--attacks reminiscent of a New McCarthyism that threatened the group's very existence--it's clear now that this was a right-wing witch-hunt which, ...
The Nation. »
Well, I got a really good idea of who qualifies as the "witch" in the hunt.
Hows about a pointy black hat for La Coultergeist?
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 3/9/2010 @ 9:21 am PT...
T.R.O. @29 references Breitbart's appearance at the Harvard as a developer of "new media."
George Orwell referred to Breitbart's brand of media as "Newsspeak."
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
said on 3/9/2010 @ 9:47 pm PT...
The "right wing media" actually edited footage of Ann Coulter to make it look like she wished death on John Edwards:
As seen here,
Coulter was quoted as saying she wished Edwards would
be "killed in a terrorist assassination plot."
Thing is, however, that what she REALLY said was, "But about the same
time — you know — Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished
Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack. So I've learned
my lesson. If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the
future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist
Gosh, bradblog readers, isn't it strange that a "right wing" media would do such a thing within their own ranks???
Oh wait a minute.
I think this pretty much clears up the confusion:
64% of respondents in a poll by the The Institute for Politics, Democracy, and the Internet (based at George Washington University
in Washington D.C.) said the "media leans left":
Two-thirds of independents--who it's safe to guess are probably
moderates--concurred that there is liberal media bias.
Even liberals see liberal bias at the NY Times:
Here's a great quote from a Newsweek propagandist, I mean journalist,
"Our job is to bash the president"
Newsweek's Evan Thomas, on the role of the media.
And then there's the Valerie Plame fiasco, which the Washington post admitted
resulted in the false persecution of the Bush administration throughout the media. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
And probably my favorite, the BBC--you know, the one shown on PBS all the time with our tax dollars--just came right out and
said, "Yes, we're biased":
I really hope this helps readers with any confusion about the media.
Unless of course they think some bias is more equal than others
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
said on 3/10/2010 @ 5:56 am PT...
Wow Raven I didn't know Ann Coulter's main profession was that of a comedian. Maher is a comedian and made a joke for which he apologized for after. Ann is known for making outrageous statements. Was she taken out of context here?
LINDA VESTER (host): You say you'd rather not talk to liberals at all?
COULTER: I think a baseball bat is the most effective way these days.
"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
"I have to say I'm all for public flogging."
"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."
"In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he [Clinton] 'did it,' even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate."