The fact that they haven’t yet been labeled a terrorist-associated group is due only to the fact that if they were, they would rain down hellfire — and one of the mightiest propaganda and lying campaigns you’ve ever seen — against those associated with having made that decision.
That, of course, is how any terrorist group worth its assault plies its trade: Scare the hell out of those who might oppose them. Let them know there will be serious consequences to those who even try, to those who even discuss it. So that anyone even thinking of it becomes crippled with fear to the point they won’t do a thing to even appear to threaten the terrorists’ agenda in any way.
In this case, of course, it’s mostly just political terrorism. But in the real world, given the carnage they continue to enable year after year and tear after tear, it’s difficult to say whether the NRA should best be described as terrorist enablers, or just plain terrorists, for the all of the indescribable violence they help perpetuate and, arguably, even help to fund.
Without the help of the NRA and those who fund them, James Holmes, the alleged gunman of Colorado’s latest massacre, might not have been able to shoot nearly 70 Americans in a matter of minutes, killing 12 of them, in a sold-out movie theater just after midnight last Friday night. Neither would it have been so simple for Jared Loughner to shoot 19 Americans and kill 6 of them, including nearly murdering Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson, AZ just over a year ago, leading to her eventual resignation from Congress.
Thanks to years of terror-enabling by the National Rifle Association, both the AZ and CO sociopaths were able to maximize their rage through a maximum of carnage against their fellow citizens. And both incidents are just a drop of blood in the NRA’s great American bucket.
Despite AZ and CO and the tens of thousands of deaths by firearm in this country each year, despite even coming within a hair’s breadth of losing one of their own last year in the bargain, Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Congress are unable and unwilling to lift a finger to do a damn thing about any of it. Neither is the President of the United States. They are all cowards, shriveling in abject fear of the almighty menace to sanity and common-sense and domestic tranquility that is today’s NRA…
Remember, the NRA is the same organization which has been fighting for years to ensure that those on the government’s “terrorist watch list”, who may not even board a commercial airplane without triggering extra security scrutiny, may go out and buy any number of deadly weapons they like without even being flagged. Because, ya know, “freedom”! And if they make their purchases at a gun show, they may do so without even the need to pass a minimal criminal background check.
Thanks in no small part to the NRA racket, the apparent CO shooter was able to legally buy some 6,000 rounds of ammo and a 100-round drum clip for use with his semi-automatic AR-15 (which he also purchased legally), enabling him to fire on some 50 to 60 Americans per minute, according to the Aurora Police Chief left to clean up the mess. Holmes was even able to pick up 150 lbs. of ammunition from FedEx, without ever having to answer a question.
But want to buy Nicotine patches? Be prepared to have your drivers license scanned at the point of purchase.
Holmes’ Friday Night “freedom”, of course, was nothing short of a great victory for the NRA, which has worked for years to make sure the modest, almost entirely useless restrictions on some automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines, as contained in the Brady Law (named for Ronald Reagan’s Press Secretary, who was nearly killed by a would-be assassin soon after Reagan took office in 1981) would not be renewed, after those modest ten-year restrictions had sunsetted in 2004.
So let’s be sure to thank the NRA for all they’ve done for this nation through their long campaign of terror and money and lying which are all waged against any elected official or candidate for political office who even dares to display the temerity to even discuss the “well regulated” part of our 2nd Amendment. (You remember that part, right? “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Did you forget that “well regulated” part? You can thank the NRA for that too. They’ve been working hard for years to help you do exactly that.)
Of course, one needn’t discuss “well regulating” the right to bear arms, to become the victim of the NRA’s Big Lies. Just ask President Obama who expanded gun rights shortly after taking office by signing a bill to allow firearms in our national parks and on trains. His thanks? Another NRA Big Lie campaign to fool more of their gullible, frightened funders into believing Obama has a secret plan to undermine the 2nd Amendment by tricking two-thirds of the U.S. Senate into ratifying a U.N. treaty that would somehow, in defiance of the U.S. Supreme Court, take precedence over the U.S. Constitution and then, naturally, allow your guns to be taken away from you!!!
And, just in case you didn’t know about that particular latest Big Lie being circulated by the NRA (because all of the suckers and chumps and dupes and stooges and patsies who watch Fox “News” and receive the NRA’s fundraising letters certainly know about it!) be sure to read up on how they’re terrifying Americans into believing the completely phony scam about the Obama Administration agreeing to a U.N. international arms treaty which is secretly a back door way to allow them to take away your guns!!!
Despite the most recent tragic slaughter (the second mass shooting of the week, by the way, in case you hadn’t heard about what happened in Alabama days earlier, as most haven’t, because, ya know, “freedom” and all) it’s unlikely a damned thing will be done to make such senseless killings even the tiniest bit more difficult to pull off in the future, because the NRA prefers the “rights” of the terrorists over the people, and the Congress is made up of cowards afraid to stand up to the terrorists-enablers.
As noted by my friend Cenk Uygur yesterday, “Nearly 100,000 people get shot every year. That’s 270 people a day and 87 dead because of gun violence every day. That’s seven Colorado shootings per day!”
Imagine how many countries we’d have to go war against if even one day’s worth of gun deaths in this nation were caused by a foreigner with dark skin.
And yet, despite all of that, and despite the fact that even the majority of gun owners and NRA members believe there should be common sense regulation on the sale of guns, there can, and will, be no such thing.
There can be no limits placed on the number of rounds in any high-capacity magazine used with any weapon. Thanks, NRA! There can be no tracking of someone who buys 6,000 bullets on the Internet, no questions asked. Thanks, NRA! And, worse, there may not even be any legitimate debate in the U.S. Congress about any of it, because best of luck to the soon-to-be-former elected official who tries it. Because “freedom” and “liberty”– and thanks, NRA!
Thanks to the patriotic works of the NRA, there are now, apparently, millions of gullible Americans who believe that Obama will be signing a U.N. treaty to take away your guns because the NRA would very much like them to believe that, thanks, and remember to send them some money so they can keep protecting your rights against imaginary threats.
How imaginary? Well, according to Politico, within the past few hours, on his way out to comfort the victims of the Aurora, CO Massacre, “White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters aboard Air Force One…that the Obama administration has no plans to push new gun control measures in the wake of the deadly shooting rampage at a Colorado movie theater.”
Of course he doesn’t. Very courageous, Mr. President. The terrorists of the NRA win again.
This is a statistic from the FBI.A 19 year high 47% of American adults report to owning a gun. The firearm homicide rate has dipped remarkably. Gun murders sank from more than 10,000 in 2005 to 8,776 in 2010 and appeared to drop again in 2011 according to a recent preliminary report by the FBI. Why are the cases where people use guns to protect themselves and their families never reported in the media. My aunt had essentially had her life saved last year because she had a gun near her bed when a burgurlar entered her home and attempted to rape her. She drew her gun, however did not shoot him. She phoned the police and had waited for them to arrive as she had the gund pointed at him until the authourites arrived. I am not a member of the NRA nor am I familiar of what they do but her life was possibly saved because of the fact that she had a gun for her protection as well as the protection of my cousins. If the guns are taken away from law abiding citizens, the criminals will still be able to get them if they wanted to and the rest of us will be helpless. I wonder if there were a couple of people in that theatre with a concealed weapon if some lives could have been saved. I believe a few would have been saved.
@ Leonardo. Your post was merely irritating until I got to the line “I am not a member of the NRA nor am I familiar of what they do” which was quite funny. Whenever such a line is encountered, it leaves me no doubt that the writer is a paid troll, following a script. Why don’t you move up in the world by selling drugs to children?
I’m not great on computers but I had a hard time finding current studies that simply give you the straight ahead comparative data on gun ownership and gun violence country to country.
Leonardo’s numbers may be correct or not, I don’t know. Leonardo, are those the numbers for the whole USA or do they represent some “rate” per some population number?
Leonardo, more importantly what I want to know is, what are the comparative rates of gun violence in all the other modern industrialized societies. If the US HAS gone down to 8000, say, but the other countries are at 37, then big whoop, your point is a misleading one. Where are all the studies found? I tried the first link in Brad’s piece but still wasn’t quite getting what I was looking for.(which might be my fault)
The FBI website has lots of data but they are not conveniently organized but all the data you would ever want is prolly there. E.g., http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cji...es/10tbl01.xls Violent crime appears to have been falling over time. Take that for what it is worth.
Wiki offers some data though it is not perfect because they are for different years and different sources. Nevertheless, they are informative. Below I show firearm death rate per 100,000 and the number of guns owned per 100.
USA 10.2 89
Mexico 12 15
Switzerland 6.4 46
Finland 6.9 32
Sweden 2.4 32
It is not as simple as #guns proportional to #deaths
I am not a member of the NRA either but I own guns…I am Davey for goodness sake!
Maybe I should join the NRA though.
Leonardo spewed @ 1:
Got URL? Or just making that up?
That said, if we presume your stat is accurate, congrats on seeing the gun murder rate drop from 3.1 9/11s each and every single year in the U.S., to just 3 9/11s each and every single year in the U.S.! That’s certainly something to be proud of! Keep up the great work!
One of the things the terrorist-enabling NRA does — which we know you’re not “familiar” with — is help make stooges like you think that somebody wants to take your aunt’s gun away, when no serious person actually does, while at the same time making sure that terrorists like James Holmes are able to buy, without the slightest background check, semi-automatic weapons with 100-round clips capable of shooting 60 Americans per minute at gun shows, along with buying 6000 rounds of ammo on the Internet, no questions asked!
Neat, huh? But thanks for advancing the terrorist-enabling NRA’s phony, strawman argument for them while they (and you by extension) continue to help the terrorists!
Wonder no more — even though the terrorist-enabling NRA thanks you for doing so. Since you may be too lazy to actually read that link, I’ll summarize: Even though it’s already a concealed carry state, it’s unlikely that the CO gunman — wearing fully body armor and firing 60 rounds a minute in a darkened, sold-out, panic-stricken theater full of smoke bombs and hundreds of people screaming and running — would have been taken down by a Dirty Harry with a pistol in the crowd.
Duh.
But let’s not let reality get in the way of good imaginary movie ending and your support of the terrorist-enabling NRA! They thank you for your efforts. So do the terrorists.
The right-wing HuffPo reports the data that Leonardo offered. Interesting article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2...ef=mostpopular
I just joined the NRA! Two year membership is only 50 bucks.
One more point in response Leonardo’s silly, terrorist-enabling NRA talking point that, “if there were a couple of people in that theatre with a concealed weapon if some lives could have been saved”, here’s another response:
To which Wapo’s Greg Sargent adds:
Davey Crocket said:
Cool! The terrorists thank you! Your support of liars and terrorist-enablers and the folks who want to make sure you have the right to easily shoot 70 Americans in about a minute is greatly appreciated, no doubt!
BTW, terrorist-enabling Davey Crocket, thanks for posting that link to the “The right-wing HuffPo”. It underscores the point I’ve been making here quite well!
Henry Giroux provides some intelligent context to our violent society.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/...an-gun-culture
There are politicians, including the President and Mitt “I support the 2d amendment” Romney, who cower before the NRA and then there is Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) whose husband was killed and son seriously injured in the 1993 Long Island Rail Road shooting.
Keep in mind that Holmes had no criminal history; no psychiatric history. The arsenal and the ammo were all obtained legally, and in Colorado, he didn’t violate the law by loading all that crap into his car and driving to the theater with it. Colorado law enforcement were not in a position to effectuate an arrest until the moment of the assault — at which time it was too late!
There is a word that aptly describes the current status of our gun laws — insane!
David @10
Interesting article. Some of it resonates with me–but not all. We do have too much violence in our culture and it is bound to have an effect. How much, I do not know…would not hazard a guess either. The author lost me on the “privatizing” rant. I am a capitalist as are my friends (both liberal and conservative). I do not know anyone who thinks that way.
BTW, I have liberal friends who own guns, so this issue is probably not a simple L-R one. I suppose it would be convenient if it were.
David #3. I agree there isn’t much,actually hardly anything at all, on the current stats comparing countries on gun violence. Kind of odd to me. Is/was Murdock friendly with the NPR too?
I did manage to find one for the US, from the UK, that has stats from 2005 to 2010.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/...crime-us-state
Frug. Should be NRA NOT NPR
If you go to “Click here to explore the interactive map” on the first link I posted, on the right there is a list of world stats. Very interesting.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/...-homicides-map
Multiple choice question: Who did Holmes claim to be?
a) Wayne LaPierre
b) The Joker
c) David Keene
d) George W Bush
e) Charlton Heston
Good article Brad and you said everything I have been saying about the NRA for years. I.m glad someone has the guts to put it in print. Our goverment is either in the pocket of the NRA or to scared of losing their seat to stand up to them. I followed a truck that had the coiled snake with words that said do not tread on my gun rights. I think of all the inniocent people that have their rights along with their lives taken away from them. I have no problem with someone having a gun but I do have a problem with the automatic guns with the large clips. It is insane. As far as I am concerned the NRA along with all their supporters have blood on their hands and will be called to account for themselves when their time comes.
The lunatic calmly blew the heads off those sitting up front with a 12 gauge shotgun, then fired an ASSAULT RIFLE at a bullet/second rate into a panicked crowd until it jammed and then emptied multiple clips from his Glock.
90 SECONDS after the first patron called 911, he was done and was outside, where he was arrested.
Brad, the man shot a good percentage of those in the theatre in SECONDS! All with legally purchased weapons.
The gun freak idiots commenting are claiming they could fumble around for their piece, aim and kill an armored psycho killer among pandemonium, without shooting anyone else in error, within ONE MINUTE.
The number of innocent Americans laying dead is irrelevant to the ALEC sponsoring greedy bastard gun makers/importers taking advantage of fearful Fox watching idiots.
What will matter is the hit the motion picture industry will take this summer.
Ten percent drop in ticket sales and suddenly the gun glorifying movie industry eagerly using complimentary shiny new guns, is suddenly ashen faced.
Regular suburbanites in a “safe” movie theatre were massacred, trapped in a place with 2 exits and jammed rows of people.
Maybe a 20% drop because all movies can be watched online anyways.
Davey Crocket @ 10 said:
Don’t worry, by week’s end (likely long before), I promise the issue will be regarded as a “L-R one”. That’s the work of the NRA, and most on the Right who have figured out that dividing the nation falsely between phony “Right” and fake “Left”, even on issues like this where most of the nation agrees, works great for them. And yet the division will be done. As usual.
ROFL Brad. Did you take the quiz?
Anyone who actually thinks that this massacre could have been stopped if someone else inside the theater was carrying a concealed handgun should watch clips of the 1997 North Hollywood shootout.
300 law enforcement officers responded to two heavily armed men wearing body armor, just as Holmes wore body armor. Yet, taking down these two men proved no easy task, even for highly trained police officers. By the time the shooting stopped, the two had fired 1,300 rounds.
If anything, someone else firing within that darkened theater may have done no more than increase the number of innocents struck by stray bullets.
Davey Crocket @12 wrote:
Well, Davey, if you are unfamiliar with the dichotomy between the profits of the few vs. the needs of the many, your circle of friends is a small one indeed.
It comes down to values. Is the capitalist value embodied in the profits of the small arms manufacturers who are making a killing off the killing of greater import than the need to have governments protect the health, safety and very lives of their citizens.
And while we’re on the topic of capitalism and profits, there a classic statement from Bob Dylan’s Masters of War that seems apropos:
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
Isn’t it comforting yo know that al Qaeda terrorist leader Adam Gadahn agrees with and supports the NRA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o
So, when brad says the NRA supports terrorists, He ain’t kidding.
Earnest,
Excellent quote. Dylan is right on, as was Jesus (Mark 8:36). Even Solomon (in all his riches) understood this (Prov 23: 4,5).
I believe in capitalism but that is not where my faith lies. My soul is in the hands of the living God and my faith in Christ His Son.
>…terrorist-enabling NRA…
So, are the people on the other side of the debate communists:
“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.”
– Mao Tze Tung, Nov 6, 1938
Nazis:
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing…”
– Adolf Hitler, April 11, 1942
Or perhaps loyalist British:
“The Battle of Lexington and Concord took place April 19, 1775, when the British sent a force of roughly 1000 troops to confiscate arms and arrest revolutionaries in Concord, Massachusetts.”
– http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution
With all due respect, NateTG, your argument that only dictatorships impose gun control lacks any scientific support and reflects the type of mass paranoia that typically arises from gun lobby propaganda.
When last I checked, the UK was neither communist nor governed by Nazis. As reported by Wikipedia, “Firearms are tightly controlled by law, and there is little political debate and no strong public opposition to control.”
The benefits to public safety are rather striking.
NateTG asked @ 25:
Of course not. But the terrorist-enabling NRA thanks you just for asking the absurd question.
The brave (NRA) gun carrying ass@#$%, RAN. He ran out the door even though children were hurt!
I hope he can’t sit/shit for years!
The link didn’t take when I used the “link” button.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012...allas-walmart/
Thank you Brad for taking on such a complex and infuriating topic. I work in the field of Mental Health and have been wondering: Why hasn’t anyone discussed the role that personality disorders play in these mass shootings? A simple, albiet not cheap, brain scan can determine if someone has Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie is a psychopath) and has the capacity of carrying out and walking away from crimes such as the latest shooting with no remorse. Why not couple a assault rifle purchase with a side of MRI?
I totally agree with you Jennifer and thank you for bringing it up and mostly for helping in that field. I couldn’t watch his first day in court because you can see he is not in reality. They should never have shown him out there like that. How could he comprehend what was happening.
I know to say you feel sorry for him will bring out the wingnuts, but I do and feel sad for his parents. The frustrating part is there isn’t much one can do. I was told , when a loved one was very depressed, that unless he tried to harm himself they couldn’t force him into help. It’s so heartbreaking to watch and not be able to help. (He is ok now but was very depressed for 5-6 years)
Bob Cesca wrote a great article on this subject and IMO he is spot on.
http://thedailybanter.com/2012/...ger-in-aurora/
I find it more painful no one in the audience could stop him as they were not armed. Over 1.5 million violent crimes are STOPPED by owners of guns. Log onto YOUTUBE sometime and watch concealed surveillance camera video of robberies and count the times the armed defenders STOP the armed assailants. Bad people do bad things. I’m armed to the teeth but I don’t even kill the chipmunks that invade my garden. Imagine the horror had the assailant in the theater used fire bombs. It is IMPOSSIBLE to disarm the bad guys. But it is NOT impossible for us to grow better people in our society. I would love to make the world all safe and cozy. It’s not the people that cause death, it’s the leadership systems that create greed and insanity. Look at history… and you will find the greatest killers disarmed their counties people first. We can NOT protect the innocent AND stop an evil government that felt free to harm it’s subjects at the same time. Keep the people armed….. but grow better people.
Let me add this…. calling us Terrorists supporting, defeats your own argument…. people who support the second amendment STOP terrorists with guns. However, our warped leadership is just as bad as the terrorists in that death is the goal for sick views of religion and capitalism alike.
I hate warped leaderships as much as I hate killing… because it causes us to use death to stop it…. just like the need to kill to stop a would be mass killer in a theater. Had you been armed, would you have killed him to stop it? To save the others? Take that one and swallow it whole. It would choke us both.
Mark @ 32 knee-jerked:
And thank God they weren’t, or things would likely have been much worse, as this gun owner details.
Of course, I’m sure you believe your Dirty Harry with a handgun would have been able to overcome a pitch black, tear gassed filled theater, sold out and with people running and screaming in panic as a man in head-to-toe body armor sprayed the crowd with 70 shots in 90 seconds. But the reality is quite different, and the chances are far greater that there would have been many more dead had someone tried to take him out in that circumstances.
But let’s not let reality stop you from forwarding the NRA’s propaganda. Speaking of which, you went on to say…
That’s nice. Who is calling for that? Though the NRA red-herring, strawman response is both unsurprising and counterproductive.
Good luck with that. You are deluded into thinking your guns are going to stop the government? Your AR-15 with a 100 round magazine versus a Predator Drone missile? You lose, chief.
Yes, the citizenry must be on guard against a tyranical governement, but you won’t be stopping them or changing it with your weapons, no matter how much you imagine the NRA talking points work here either.
Mark @ 33 continued the delusionary, NRA forwarded talking points with:
I support the 2nd Amendment. The NRA only claims to (they conveniently ignore that “well regulated” part, as, apparently, you do as well). In the bargain, they’ve lobbied to assure that people on the Terrorist Watch List can buy any weapons they like, and that criminals, former felons, spousal abusers and, yes, terrorists, can buy any weapon they like at gun shows as well, without a single background check.
But I guess your in support of that as well.
You already choked yourself with it. No, I wouldn’t have been able to kill him in the 90 seconds before the armed police arrived. Neither would you have been able to. But you and I both would have been able to kill a whole bunch of additional folks while trying.
Choke on that, as you keep up the bad, knee-jerk work, amigo.
(And please read the link I offered to you above before you knee-jerk again. Thanks!)