‘Green News Report’ – October 18, 2012

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      Davey Crocket said on 10/18/2012 @ 7:53pm PT: [Permalink]

      German winter shows Achilles heel of renewables:

      Intermittent renewable energy requires grid balancing services, primarily from stand-by baseload fossil fuel capacity or battery and pumped storage, but also via interconnectors bringing power from other countries and regions.

      For example, while the renewable energy lobby cheered a solar power peak at 22.4 gigawatts (GW) (or about a third of total lunchtime demand) on Friday, May 25, perhaps more relevant was a slump in combined wind and solar power during a surge in demand in an early February cold spell.


      re wind and solar:
      However, that only applies when considering aggregate weekly or monthly data. In fact the two do not average out.

      While the grid survived, the risk of blackouts is clearly elevated without substantial fossil-fuelled back-up capacity.

      The large standard deviation of wind and solar power illustrates the volatility. (nobody on bradblog knows what a standard deviation is…lol)

      The trend towards more renewable energy generation in Europe makes more regulation inevitable, including capacity mechanisms or strategic reserves to ensure gas power headroom for cold days in February, for example, and other publicly funded resources including battery storage and interconnectors.

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      Davey Crocket said on 10/18/2012 @ 7:59pm PT: [Permalink]

      “China’s state-run banks have extended billions of dollars of credit to solar companies. In the latest sign of state patronage, the China Development Bank Corp CHDB.UL earlier this month said it would prioritize loans to 12 top solar companies.”

      Cool…lets borrow money from China and give it to crony solar companies to compete with Chinese solar companies…right…that’s the ticket!

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      Dredd said on 10/19/2012 @ 4:05am PT: [Permalink]

      The best investment concerning energy:

      The National Academy of Sciences concluded in 2001 that a handful of clean energy technologies returned about $30 billion on an R&D investment of about $400 million. The United States is an amazing venture capitalist when it comes to clean energy R&D.

      (Think Progress, emphasis added). It still holds true (ibid).

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      Ernest A. Canning said on 10/19/2012 @ 6:11am PT: [Permalink]

      Davey Crocket @2 wrote:

      German winter shows Achilles heel of renewables

      Fact:

      German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour – equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity – through the midday hours on Friday and Saturday.

      Yes, Davey, solar power “generation” is greatly reduced during cloud cover. Ever hear of energy storage?

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      Davey Crocket said on 10/19/2012 @ 8:57am PT: [Permalink]

      Ernest@5

      Yes, of course I have heard of energy storage…in fact I included “batteries” (just one of many forms of energy storage) in the last line of my post.

      I suspect that in 100 years we will have a reliable renewable energy source. In the mean time, we will continue to rely on carbon. Germany is pretty bold…we will see how that plays out.

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      Dredd said on 10/20/2012 @ 7:10am PT: [Permalink]

      The best “battery” for storage of energy is demonstrated by a power plant in Spain, solar, that delivers power 24/7 by storing excess energy in liquid salt, then extracting it when sunlight is not available:

      Torresol Energy has overcome one of solar energy’s biggest challenges: operating when the sun doesn’t shine. The 19.9 MW Gemasolar concentrated solar power plant in Spain’s Andalucia province has two tanks of molten salt (MSES) that store heat energy generated throughout the day. Unlike normal plants that have less thermal storage or none at all, this stored energy enables Torresol to satisfy peak summer energy demand long after sunset. A joint venture between Spanish giant Sener and Masdar, Abu Dhabi’s Future Energy Company, the Gemasolar plant has hurdled one of alternative energy’s biggest obstacles.

      (Gemasolar Array).

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      Desi Doyen said on 10/20/2012 @ 12:07pm PT: [Permalink]

      Wrong again, Davey @#3! The Inspector General who investigated the Solyndra bankruptcy found ZERO evidence of ‘crony capitalism’, that the program was steered toward political benefactors, donors, or friends or family. In fact, major Republican donors also invested in Solyndra, so how do you explain that?

      So now that you know the facts, you’ll stop spreading that lie, right?

      Why do you want the U.S. to lose the global clean energy race, Davey? China and Germany, whose steady and consistent investment in their domestic solar energy industry is now paying off, are winning, and the U.S. is losing today, thanks to the help of Republicans working on behalf of the fossil fuel industry. As you saw in the story, Germany is working through the kinks in their transition now. The U.S. isn’t even on the gameboard.

      I can understand why Republicans do it — the fossil fuel industry funds the GOP 8-to-1 over Democrats, even though the industry fares better under Democrats, according to the hippie lefty pinko treehuggers over at the National Journal.

      But I can only surmise why you would WANT to spend more of your money on the ever-increasing costs of finite commodities like fossil fuels — unlike wind and solar, which have ZERO fuel supply costs or external pollution costs once the facility opens. I can only guess that you WANT to your money to go to the fossil fuel industry to pollute your air, land, and water for free and make you pay to clean up it up later (Superfund) AND make you pay for it in higher health care costs, mercury-laden fish, more billion-dollar weather disasters, and long-term climate destabilization for coming generations.

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