There's a reason why most Republican wingnuts don't venture outside of the safe confines of Fox "News" or other venues where they won't have to face actual, reality-based information and questions from outside of their comfortable, fact-free bubble.
My conversation on air Thursday with RW "voter fraud" fraudster, commie-hunter, and fact-challenged Fox fave David Horowitz illustrated that point with crystal clarity once again. The result wasn't pretty. At least for him.
When asked for actual facts to back up his extraordinary claims about "Democratic voter fraud" --- specifically, that caretakers at his brother-in-law's residential care facility "committed fraud" by helping the brother-in-law, and purportedly sixty others at the home, to vote --- Horowitz had nothing.
He was, however, able to call me a "communist wanna be", a "liar" and an "extreme partisan" for having displayed the temerity to ask him for such facts. He was even able to pile on top of all of that by claiming (falsely) that I'd called him all sorts of names and even that I had accused him of committing fraud!
That's why these guys don't leave the Fox Fantasy World bubble.
As I say, it wasn't pretty. But the audio of yesterday's radio "interview", and the background on what happened, all follows below. I think you may enjoy it...
Thanks to technical problems during the show, Fairness Radio with Patrick O'Heffernan, the beginning of the audio posted below is cut off. But most of the good stuff is there.
What you will have missed was about 20 minutes of me and O'Heffernan discussing various issues of election integrity --- like my advocacy in favor of Republican Rep. Allen West's recently aborted challenge to his reported election loss in Florida's 18th Congressional District --- and the beginning of Horowitz' litany of allegations about "Democratic voter fraud", as he detailed in his post-Thanksgiving column last week.
O'Heffernan is a progressive and, until recently, had co-hosted the show (which I've been on several times, and always enjoyed) with a Rightwinger friend of his. Instead, on yesterday's show, Horowitz was to have been O'Heffernan's guest co-host. It didn't really work out that way, however.
Thanks to the myriad tech probs on the show, the producers had trouble getting Horowitz on until about 20 minutes into the hour (thus, my time with O'Heffernan by myself at the top of the show which you won't hear below).
The audio picks up as Horowitz, who was given the "mic" to ask me a question once he finally came on, was detailing the allegations from his column.
Among the allegations you won't hear him discuss, thanks to the truncated audio, is the one which I responded to first --- wherein the conversation went immediately down hill (or, up hill, depending on how you may see it.)
Since you won't hear him tell the story that I immediately asked him questions about, here are the key elements of that story, as published in his column last week:
So we know that Democrats have little respect for the election process, and we should assume they will attempt to pursue their victories by any means necessary.
But even knowing this, I was not prepared for a conversation I had at Thanksgiving dinner today with my brother-in-law, Henry, who has lived most of his life in a home for the mentally disabled, and though now in his forties has the intelligence level of a six-year-old.
“Obama saved me,” he said to me out of the blue.
“What do you mean?”
“I voted for him for president and now he’s saving me.”
I was taken aback by these words, since Henry had no idea who Obama was, or what a president might be, and would be unable to fill out a registration form let alone get to the polling place by himself. So I asked him how he knew that and how he had registered and cast his vote. In halting, impeded speech he told me that the people who take care of him at the home filled out “the papers” to register him to vote, told him how Obama cared for him, even taught him the Obama chants, and then took him to the polling place to vote. They did the same for all of the mentally disabled patients in their care, approximately sixty in all.
This is so appalling in its contempt for the voting process, which is the very foundation of our democracy, and in its cynical exploitation of my brother-in-law and the other patients in the home, many of whose mental capacities are even more limited than his that I am at a loss for words to express it.
Horowitz goes on in the column to express his hope that "poll-watching groups like 'True the Vote' will comb the rolls of residents at other homes for the mentally disabled, and attempt to stop this particular abuse."
Though Horowitz claimed during the show that he is "not a crusader on this issue", back in 2010 he appeared in the video used to launch the Rightwing, Republican-funded "non-partisan" True the Vote outfit (who, by the way, were found by an Ohio county to have committed fraud themselves in the 2012 Election!) He was seen in the video offering unsubstantiated claims such as "ACORN is a voter fraud machine" and asserting that "our elections are being manipulated by the radical Left."
We covered that video and True the Vote's pretend claims to be a "non-partisan election integrity" organization when they first appeared along with that video (which also included a fraudulent, Photoshopped photo of an African-American woman holding a sign reading "I ONLY GOT TO VOTE ONCE!") when they first emerged in 2010. You can read our coverage of that here, and see the faked photo. Unfortunately, the video that featured it --- and Horowitz --- has been "removed" from the Internets by True the Vote for some reason.
The non-crusading Horowitz also created a website, DiscoverTheNetworks.org, which includes dozens of scammy, disinformative articles on "Democratic voter fraud", including those purported to be about "ACORN's Continuing Pattern of Voter Fraud" (they actually committed none) and "Voter Fraud & Voter ID Laws".
He is also proudly featured on fellow GOP "voter fraud" fraudster and Master of Misinformation Matthew Vadum's website endorsing comrade Vadum's phony "investigative" book about ACORN this way: "The criminal enterprise called 'ACORN' is the largest, most elusive, and most dangerous radical organization in America. If you are wondering about the operations and influence of a vast left-wing conspiracy, this is it, with tentacles that reach right into the heart of the Obama White House."
Other than that, of course, he's "not a crusader on this issue".
With all of that in mind, you'll have to listen to the audio to hear what happened after Horowitz told the story above (the audio below begins as he finishes that story from his column, and explains that, after publishing, he received many emails from others claiming "similar experiences" elsewhere), when I then politely responded to ask Horowitz for the name and location of the facility where his brother-in-law, and "approximately sixty" others were allegedly directed to commit fraud by their caretakers, and whether or not he'd at least reported this seemingly very serious crime to any law enforcement officials.
There is one moment in the audio where Horowitz appears to have hung up. Apparently his cell phone dropped the call and he rejoins us a few moments later. But then, a few minutes after that, the cross-talk got so ugly that the producers were forced to go to a break. When we came back, Horowitz was gone for good.
Apologies in advance for the less than stellar audio, due in part to the tech problems. It's a bit over 30 minutes, in all, but Horowitz is gone for good after about 20. The stuff that came after he left was fun too, though!
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