READER COMMENTS ON
"WaPo's Dana Milbank Plays 'Journalist', Gets Paid for It!"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 6/17/2005 @ 11:34 am PT...
The Washington Post and their editorial staff have shown their colors.
This is NOT the Washington Post of the Watergate era, this is a Washington Post that is starting to look more and more like the Washington TIMES every day.
Bob Woodward should be shunned publicly at any gathering of so-called "journalists" he attempts to attend. I would spit in his disgusting face for his allowing this tripe to be published.
Charlie L
Portland, Oregon
CLL2001@Gmail.com
The Days of Decision are coming: We are frogs begin slow-cooked, and by the time we realize the water is boiling, we won't have the strength to jump out of the pot. Keep an eye out for your "jumping moment" and we'll all jump together. FROG FREEDOM!!!
The Republicans in power have lied and innocent people died.
The Republicans in power have stolen and given to their rich friends, leaving just an IOU for our kids to pay off.
The Republicans in power have cheated and claim they are the "moral" ones.
We must flush all Republicans out of power in '06 and '08.
Take back American Democracy. Don't vote Republican.
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truthseeker
said on 6/17/2005 @ 11:45 am PT...
Terrific letter from the great Mr. Conyers to the lying bastards in the press. Thanks for posting it.
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Stu B
said on 6/17/2005 @ 11:47 am PT...
The Washington Post is starting sound like FrontPage Magazine.
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Alison
said on 6/17/2005 @ 11:50 am PT...
This does not surprise me at all. Wilbanks is a snarky worm.
OT - (also posted on another thread, I apologize in advance for that) -
To the famous 6 or 7:
Please call Sen. Dick Durbin and thank him for speaking
out about torture in Gitmo. He is being attacked by the White House and of course the Right Wing Media. Even Jon Stewart took an uninformed shot at him.
Please call him to thank him and ask him not to back down.
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Thank you.
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Alison
said on 6/17/2005 @ 11:53 am PT...
oops typo, should read: Milbank is a snarky worm.
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VeryWorried
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:01 pm PT...
Perhaps I am missing something from the American vernacular, but when is the chairman of a meeting not the chairman??
This was cited as one of the reasons the hearing rooms were made unavailable to Representative Conyers. How childish! More pre-adolescent behaviour from the Grandstanding Outdated Party.
Charlie, you're using the wrong tense, sir. Bush is lying and people are dying.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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jen
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:04 pm PT...
omg, it breaks my heart what the radical regressive majority and the corporate controlled media are doing to our country and especially to patriots like Rep Conyers who has put so much of his life into fighting for US - ALL OF US - even those who don't know or acknowledge it.
Will try to compose a polite letter to WaPo but it's gonna be hard to stay cordial.
Great post Brad - thank you.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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LQ
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:07 pm PT...
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Hannah
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:16 pm PT...
I already sent a letter to the general comments section, but will now also send it to the link above. Great letter by Rep. Conyers and wonderful hearing yesterday!
Very childish "article" by Milbanks and not what we have come to expect from him.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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VeryWorried
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:19 pm PT...
Dissing Conyers Reveals Truth: Invasion was for Israel
Milbank knows damn well the meeting was an effort to get to the bottom of the Downing Street Memo, not specifically a prelude to an effort to impeach Bush, who will not be impeached, due primarily to the indisputable fact Bush owns Congress, much of the judiciary, and Washington itself, including the corporate media.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Charlie
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:21 pm PT...
Hey guys I just tried to blog at a neo-con web site.
Look at the warning they post to me about any comments I make...if Brad's website had their rules, they would have been removed at their first entries....
JUST READ IT QUICK
http://www.pabaah.com/mo...file=viewtopic&t=135
What do you think??
Charlie
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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COLLEEN
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:46 pm PT...
Charlie
That warning is creepy. I tried to find the trolls corner, but couldn't.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:46 pm PT...
More on Milbank--Don't forget to mention this:
(sorry, I couldn't get the Community Assistant to work to make clickable links)
------------From Common Dreams:
"On June 8, Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank referred to Downing Street Memo activists--some of whom were offering a cash reward for the first journalist to ask Bush about the memo--as "wing nuts."
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0615-20.htm
Milbank had reported the same day (6/8/05) that his paper's latest poll showed that only 41 percent of Americans approved of the Iraq war--which makes one wonder when exactly the war would cross Milbank's threshold and become unpopular enough to make the memo newsworthy.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05159/517430.stm
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COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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VeryWorried
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:47 pm PT...
The Downing Street Memo by Michael Smith Reporter, Sunday Times of London Thursday, June 16, 2005; 10:00 AM
Washington, D.C.: I think the implications of all of this information is truly unknown. Our Post reporters chat with us here online saying that it's not going to lead to impeachment. I am not so sure. But if not that far, I see this as causing a great deal of problems for our government. What do you think will be the consequences, if any, for Blair?
Michael Smith: I bow to their better judgment on impeachment. I do think that the pressure now is such that it could go that way but only with continued pressure from us journalists and you the people. I firmly believe that Congress will turn against this awful ill-conceived war. I frankly don't care if Saddam Hussein and his buddies ended up in a grave like the ones they prepared for so many of their own people. What I do care about is the way in which nearly 2,000 allied soldiers, more than 1700 of the Americans with yet more today, have died simply because Blair and Bush didn't prepare for what would come afterwards.
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Partridge
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:55 pm PT...
OMG not the evil hordes of anti-semites again!
Curses, our secret plans to drive the Jews into the sea is foiled again by the intrepid Mr. Milbank. Give that man a Freedom Medal.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 12:58 pm PT...
#11
Nazis.
I think the "emoticon" (or whatever?) of the "Goat with Sickle" pretty much speaks for itself.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Hannah
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:03 pm PT...
#11 How interesting. Presumably these idiots would also ban Sen. Lautenberg's awesome Senate floor speech of yesterday, the most pertinent of which I just happened to have typed up and is as follows:
Sen. Lautenberg 6/16/05 – excerpts from Senate floor speech:
"On Tuesday… President Bush gave a speech in which he complained that the Democrats… are obstructionists because we’re not accepting his agenda. The president also said we say no to everything… but look at all the things HE says no to… to Tony Blair when [he asked] for more help for Africa... no to kids with juvenile diabetes or autism, or other childhood diseases, when they ask to be permitted to do stem cell research… says no to parents and teachers who want education fully funded… no to a real patient’s bill of rights… no to making polluters pay for Superfund environmental cleanup…[but] said YES to making taxpayers pay… said no to getting tough with the Saudis [re oil prices]…
"What is means if you oppose any of President Bush’s policies is that you’re an obstructionist, and frankly in a democratic nation, it’s unacceptable, it’s a disastrous line of thinking… if you don’t like challenges, then you don’t understand democracy.
"This isn’t a nation where we have a dictator…
"Saddam Hussein didn’t have to worry about obstructionists, not in his country, he killed them, jailed them…
"Leaders who are free of obstructionists are also known as dictators.
"Throughout history, so-called obstructionists have been the champions of democracy."
(Lautenberg showed posters and talked about each: of a man standing in front of tanks, the Boston tea party, the founding fathers who stood against King George III, Rosa Parks getting fingerprinted, photo of Margaret Chase Smith who stood against Joe McCarthy, and a photo of woman suffrage advocates. Each poster had the word “Obstructionists?” printed at the top.)
"Obstructionism is not an evil course if you’re on the side of the people. In light of our democracy’s heritage of productive obstruction, I will be proud to obstruct some of President Bush’s proposals this year." (He noted privatization of social security, Medicaid cuts to the poor and elderly “Is there any compassion there – I don’t think so.”, and other issues.)
"Obstructionism is all that separates democracy from dictatorship."
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:04 pm PT...
In re #6: You are absolutely right on the tense, and I shall correct that immediately in my sig. You should, however, note that I try to __NEVER__ use "Bush" as my emphasis, but always "The Republicans in power." This is not an accidental or irrelevant choice. Barring changes to the Constitution, Bush has had his last election --- our battle now is with the Republicans in control of the House and Senate. I like to "paint" the entire Republican party and every single person who would claim to be a Republican with the brush of Bush/Cheney/Rice/Ashcroft/et al.'s crimes.
Let us not think of "Bush" as the villains here, but the "Republicans in power" as the ones trying to subvert our Constitution and turn our republic towards Fascism and theocracy.
As for #11, that just proves it. It is the Republicans in Power who are afraid of open debate and dissent --- two hallmarks of freedom and Democracy --- but would have us march in lockstep to their beliefs without any questioning. THAT is not American Democracy --- that is the way of Hitler and Mussolini. However, that said, we must adopt SOME (but not all) of the right wing's tricks and begin to SLAP DOWN those who interfere in our open debates by spewing irrelevant or inappropriate comments, and I will support any progressive SysOp or Admin who needs to do that to Neo-Con Trolls on occasion.
Charlie L
Portland, Oregon
CLL2001@Gmail.com
The Days of Decision are coming: We are frogs begin slow-cooked, and by the time we realize the water is boiling, we won't have the strength to jump out of the pot. Keep an eye out for your "jumping moment" and we'll all jump together. FROG FREEDOM!!!
The Republicans in power lie and innocent people die.
The Republicans in power steal and give to their rich friends, leaving just an IOU for our kids to pay off.
The Republicans in power cheat and claim they are the "moral" ones.
We must flush all Republicans out of power in '06 and '08.
Take back American Democracy. Don't vote Republican.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Charlie
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:21 pm PT...
I called and left a message for Dana Millbanks. Lets see if he calls back. If not I said what I had to say about his dis-service to this country. His story stinks like propaganda all the way down here in Louisiana.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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jen
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:22 pm PT...
Hannah #17 - thank you for posting this!
Check it out - Brad Blog is linked in Media Matters News Dissector- twice!
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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cosmiquemuffin
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:44 pm PT...
Here's what I sent in email:
How sad it is that the Washington Post of my youth, which uncovered hideous crimes of state and purged this nation of a crook in the highest office, should have descended so low as to throw spitballs at a hearing to shed light on what is perhaps the greatest high crime of our lifetimes.
Did Milbank even bother to watch the Downing Street Minutes hearings before poison-penning "Democrats Play House to Rally Against the War"? Or did he just take his snarking points from right-wing radio bloviators? For that matter, has he even read the Downing Street Minutes? If so, what part of "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" doesn't he understand?
I *did* watch, after Tivo-ing CSPAN3 while I worked during the day. It's an outrage that hearings of this dire nature must be held in an overgrown broom closet because the party in power can't bear the truth to be heard, but it's inexcusable that a "journalist" writing for a paper with the reputation of the Post would ridicule the decor and the problems arising from cramped proceedings instead of treating the subject with the seriousness it deserves. Indeed the entire article is a catty yowl. This is how you treat America-shaking stories? What next for the Post: Joan Rivers covering Supreme Court decisions, spending most of the story bad-mouthing the robes?
Get Milbank on the society column or the Michael Jackson beat. This latest article demonstrates that he's certainly not fit to cover stories of any importance.
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jpentz
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:44 pm PT...
I think 6 or 7 of us just got really pissed.
Thought for your pleasure I would post my email to Millbanks and his Omnibudsman.
Dear D. Millbanks,
What a sad day it when the Washington Post actually pays for neocon tripe. You may not be aware of this but the majority of the country feels that the mainstream media is no longer credible and ignores it. We don't believe a word of what Scott McClellan portrays as truth. If there is anyone living in a make believe world, it yourself and the fascist and unelected regime that now controls our government. Preaching about "spreading democracy" on national cable news means nothing when we have no democracy at home. The house of cards will fall and you have just demonstrated the credibility of Joseph McCarthy in your article about the Downing Street memos.
I went to journalism school. And your nasty, demeaning article is taken offense to my real Americans. I am not a registered democrat either. I was raised by Ohio Republicans. I have read and have the Downing Street memos. If Britain is one ally, it won't be for long when real patriots in the UK bring down Tony Blair. I am thankful that the omnibudsman of the New York Times has taken charge of their paper. Who is paying you for the lies you write? How sad you wrote about something you did not even listen to. Maybe you should DO YOUR JOB and LISTEN - Downing Street Hearings
Audio (Real Player) 06/16/05
Here is your public opinion: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8248969/ We don't BELIEVE YOU ! ! !
The public does not believe you or the mainstream media. The people are not as stupid as you assume.
When this goes down, you will have no credibility. The truth always comes out.
Omnibudsman, why would you have such a hateful person on your staff that lies. I am about tired of hate and fascism. You are paying this guy or is the Bush administration? What kick backs did he get for writing lies? Personally, I would take great pleasure in firing this hate monger.
Regards,
J. Pentz
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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jen
said on 6/17/2005 @ 1:54 pm PT...
JPentz #22 - Most Excellent letter!! Mine pales by comparison - fwiw, here it is:
Dear Sirs,
Dana Milbank's piece, "Democrats Play House To Rally Against the War," ridiculing the serious intent of Rep. Conyers, other Dem elected officials and everyday American Patriots to address the Downing Street Minutes, is not only an uncalled for smear, it is also filled with outright lies and deems to discredit hundreds of thousands of us who support their effort 100%. One can only see this as an attempt to once again protect the lies and crimes of the current administration.
You can all congratulate yourselves for being on the front lines of the march to taking our once free, beautiful country and leading us on our way to a theocratic dictatorship.
I seriously thought I was immune to your callousness in dealing with (or ignoring) issues that actually effect "we the people" but nope, you've caught me off guard and once again I'm shocked at your shallowness, myopia and abject cruelty.
I'm having a hard time understanding your motives - I know about bottom line profits, corporate power, unimagined wealth - but at what point does love and loyalty to one's country enter the picture? At what point will the duties of your JOB as watchdog of our government and truthteller to the public play a role in your decisions of what is fit to print?
I pray to God you all wake up from your stupor and realize what you are doing to our country before it is too late. Oh, and I DARE you to print Rep. Conyers' response to you regarding this tripe.
Sincerely,
jen
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:00 pm PT...
#21 #22
These are great letters!
I suggest that they, and other emails, also be copied to The Washington Post Company:
TWPCoReply@washpost.com
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Dr. Alan H. Levinson
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:04 pm PT...
Here's a copy of the letter I sent to wapo...
Mr. Milbank
With as much restraint as I can muster, and with the hope that you will actually read some of the e-mails sent to you, I must register my utter dismay and 'embarrassment' for your appaling and shameful coverage of the hearing regarding the "Downing Street Minutes" run by Representative Conyers. Your lack of journalistic fairness is only overshadowed by your clear endorsement of the president and mockery of any process that questions his integrity. When a NY Times 'journalist' was fired for creating stories in order to get bylines, I was elated. I am not sure what the difference is with respect to your coverage of this story.
Before I allow myself the privilege of using foul language, I will sign off by informing you that I will forward this letter to Michael Getler, Ombudsman...as well as Michael Abramowitz, National editor. I end with the hope that you will be held accountable for your embarassing and humiliating behavior. Journalists report the news. You destroyed it!
Dr. Alan H. Levinson
docdaddy@optonline.net
cc. Micheal Abromowitz
Michael Getler
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Buckshot
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:07 pm PT...
I'm increasing my cash offer. You are all eligible.
To recap........After hearing complaints of the tax cuts for the rich, I responded to BT that the rich benefited from tax cuts because they PAY INCOME TAXES, whereas the poor don't pay income taxes. Thus, no tax cut.
NOTICE - the tax cuts in question were reductions in the federal withholding, known as FEDERAL INCOME TAXES. I am not referring to FICA, which remains at the same rate. I am not referring to ANY OTHER TAX.
At least half a dozen Bradblog followers have responded in typical fashion, with insults, namecalling, vague references to abstract assumptions, but no substance.
Now we have Unirealist (I mistakenly referred to him as "unrealist". Sorry.
He claims his teenage daughter earned $2000 babysitting and she had a federal income tax liability of a few hundred dollars. (?????)
I will pay anyone on Bradblog $1000 if they can demonstrate that a teenage girl has a federal tax liability on a $2000 income. I will also donate $1000 to Bradblog.
My first offer remains - $1000 to anyone who can demonstrate that poor people in America have a federal income tax liability. I am talking about FEDERAL INCOME TAX. The same FEDERAL INCOME TAX that had a minor rate reduction (thanks to GWB).
I am NOT talking about any other kind of tax (FICA, cigarette, sales tax, state tax, etc etc.)
My offers ONLY APPLY to FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:08 pm PT...
#23
Your letter doesn't pale by comparison! And, it's a good thing that each letter is different from the others. That way it can't be assumed that there are only "6 or 7" of us at work, sending form emails.
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Dredd
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:09 pm PT...
Charlie #11 What do I think?
I think they are fascist little wannabees.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:21 pm PT...
Dana Milbank proves the point that for every good journalist in the MSM there are ten bad prostitutes calling themselves a journalist.
I just can't figure out why Dana Milbank thinks he is a journalist.
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VeryWorried
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:32 pm PT...
We continue to ignore the American hating trolls while writing letters to the vile and complicit media to make them understand that we the people will hold this administration accountable for murdering Americans at home and abroad.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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BigTobacco
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:37 pm PT...
My letter to WaPo:
"In the Capitol basement yesterday, long-suffering House Democrats took a trip to the land of make-believe."
You should be ashamed of yourselves! Did you not hear the testimony of Cindy Sheehan? She gave her own son over the lies that are so clearly spelled out in the Downing Street Memo.
You owe her... and all of us... an apology. I cannot believe that you would mock someone who only wants to get a fair hearing for the death of her son. Cindy Sheehan knows more about reality than Dana Milbank would ever care to know.
Her son is dead, Dana Milbank should apologize. And he should also mention that all of us who have been struggling to get the full story on the Downing Street Memo would love to have bipartisan hearings on the matter, but it is hard when a bitterly partisan majority refuses to even acknowledge the issue for fear that it will chip away at their tawdry veneer of moral righteousness. It is they who are living in a "land of make-believe" when they stonewall rather than give the American people access to the facts that we need to fulfill our duties as citizens. They hope the lies will go away. Dana Milbank hopes the lies will go away. But like the spot on the hands Lady Macbeth, the blood of innocents is a scandal too dark to be scrubbed clean and forgotten.
America reads the Washington Post. And Americans know that the intelligence was "fixed." If you want to be taken seriously, I would suggest that you bring your publication into greater harmony with reality, and spend less time insulting people who only want to see more truth from our leaders.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Shelly
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:42 pm PT...
I an furious that the Washington Post would print such insulting crap. Here is my letter to Milbank:
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To Mr. Dana Milbank of the Washington Post,
I'm a middle-aged adult American citizen. I remember Watergate. I remember the Iran Contra hearings. I remember the impeachment of a president for lying about sex. I remember how the media drooled and frothed at the mouth when waiting for each new sexual tidbit about a presidential affair.
I watched the events unfold on 9/11 with horror. I then watched our country go to war with a country unrelated to 9/11 with even more horror. I saw Congress lay down and play dead as the president of this country forced his fake war "intelligence" on them and then went to war based on made-up bullshit. I saw the media do nothing. I watched the press ignore it all as some of our civil rights were taken away from us and we got involved in an insane, illegal, and insanely expensive war with a country that was no threat to us.
I'm enraged that you, Mr. Dana Milbank would call yourself a journalist and get away with writing erroneous malarkey like you wrote yesterday ("Democrats Play House to Rally Against the War," ) about the Democratic hearings on the Downing Street memo. Your article didn't pay homage to your teachers in high school, your parents, your family or your fellow American citizens. You failed in your duty and you should be ashamed and your teachers and parents should be ashamed.
These were serious hearings about a very serious matter, and you obviously don't get that. There are millions of Americans who feel that getting to the bottom of why the war started is the most important news today. It directly affects the lives of each and every American. It affects our rights, our economy, our very futures. It may very well lead to the impeachment of a president for high crimes.
I can't think of a "higher crime" than leading a nation into war based on lies, and lying to Congress to accomplish that, can you?
We got into this idiotic, illegal war in Iraq in the first place because journalists laid down and played DEAD. You're still doing it! In fact, you're complicit in all of this. You're completely abrogating your DUTY to report the news in a fair and informative matter. I now must assume that the whole of the Washington Post, like your article, will be all stinking, biased BS.
Report the news or admit you're not a journalist. Call yourself an "entertainer" like Rush Limbaugh does.
You're now among those I consider "in on it." So is the Washington Post as a whole.
Sincerely,
[my sig.]
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NOW.... does anyone know where I can get a transcript of the entire hearing yesterday? I can't navigate CSPAN.org to save my life. Could someone send me an email of where it is please because I don't know if I'll be back here today? I want to post parts of it on a forum or two.
I love your blog, "Brad", and Thank God for you and what you are doing!
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:56 pm PT...
Guess who this was to:
Dear "Sirs",
Dana Milbank's "reporting" of the Conyers' forum on the Downing Street Minutes is absolutely shameful. It would not even past muster as an piece of news reporting, never mind the juvenile insults, in the more accountable and reputable high school or college newspapers.
Milbank's "Washington Sketch" on this matter is scurrilous.
The Washington Post (and the Washington Post Company) has been cashing in on its "Watergate Coverage" for far too long. You have lost my respect in a complete way. I trust that others have much the same reaction.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Blogging makes you dumb (68.54.14.53)
said on 6/17/2005 @ 2:56 pm PT...
{ed note: Deleted. Same poster posting as different names. When he posts with one name, the comments will be allowed to stay.}
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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jen
said on 6/17/2005 @ 3:28 pm PT...
So many excellent letters here! 6 or 7 over at CCN are writing as well. I'd love to know how many emails they're getting about this.
Shelly, the Downing Street Hearing will be on C-Span2 at 8pm eastern time tonight!
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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unanimous consent (68.54.14.53)
said on 6/17/2005 @ 3:28 pm PT...
{ed note: Deleted. Same poster posting as different names. When he posts with one name, the comments will be allowed to stay.}
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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jen
said on 6/17/2005 @ 3:39 pm PT...
* * * * * Space * * * * *
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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unanimous consent
said on 6/17/2005 @ 3:50 pm PT...
(ed note: Deleted. Same poster posting as different names. When he posts with one name, the comments will be allowed to stay.)
That's not true. My post was unpopular and outside of the mainstream here. I like to think that I'm being provocative. The truth is I'm just bored out of my freakin mind.
But the smoking really ins't cool. You could get ill or some kid who looks up to you as a role model could pick up the habit devasting an over-protective mother. Even worse, a young lady could start smoking and everyone will assume she's loose.
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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unanimous consent
said on 6/17/2005 @ 4:16 pm PT...
Three more hours everyone! Once this thing airs things are finally gonna start to change. Just think about it; hundreds of millions of people spending Friday night glued to CSPAN2. Saturday morning; REVOLUTION!
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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kmsor
said on 6/17/2005 @ 4:57 pm PT...
My letter to the Washington Post:
To Messrs. Abramowitz, Getler, and Milbank:
I am writing to express my profound disappointment with your paper's coverage of the hearing conducted by Cong. Conyers yesterday on the Downing Street Memo and its implications. Dana Milbanks exercise in creative writing, it could scarcely be called journalism or reporting, should have been printed under a banner of "Opinion," or perhaps on the funny pages. Your paper has virtually ignored the issues raised by the very troubling information contained in the Downing Street Memo and related documents. While I will not jump to any conclusions about the reasons for your avoidance of this topic it does lead many of your better informed readers to become concerned about the lack of coverage and to speculate about the reasons your editors and owners have not pursued this very serious issue.
What an irony that just as we learn of the identity of "Deep Throat" and are reminded of the great service your paper rendered to our nation during "Watergate" we are simultneously reminded of the depths to which your paper has fallen.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:00 pm PT...
I can't remember ever since when having been so outraged by a single piece of "reporting" in the so-called MSM. Please, everyone likewise insulted, use the email info that Brad provides to send a message to WaPo.
My view: As long as what you write is true, and from the heart, even a short email will have an impact. We've already seen some emails that do an eloquent job of covering the 6 or 7 points that need be addressed. So, now, I believe it's about numbers.
Brad et al., is there anything else we can do to give this story more "legs"? By "story" I am specifially referring to your article on the Milbank "report"-- but, inasmuch as it covers the "forum" itself, and Conyers' letter to WaPo, it is a much bigger story than what Milbank "reported".
Milbank has, to my mind, become the "Poster Boy" for everything that is wrong with the MSM.
I emailed Dan Froomkin at WaPo, giving a link to this thread/ story, suggesting that he check it out. Are there any other people you would suggest writing to?
Dan Froomkin--Author of washingtonpost.com's White House Briefing column.
email Froomkin
June 17 Froomkin
Part of what he wrote:
Paul Koring writes for Toronto's Globe and Mail: "The emotive and charged word 'impeachment' was voiced yesterday on Capitol Hill as a clutch of Democratic congressmen, backed by distraught mothers of soldiers slain in Iraq, put together a piece of theatre that could become the summer's political drama."
But Dana Milbank of The Washington Post saw yesterday's event more as farce: "In the Capitol basement yesterday, long-suffering House Democrats took a trip to the land of make-believe."
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Lindy
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:01 pm PT...
Re: June 16, 2005, Jim VandeHei of The Washington Post, on MSNBC's "Countdown" with Alex Witt who was sitting in for Keith Olbermann ---
In the opening remarks of her interview with VandeHei, Alex referred to THE hearing in the following manner: "... Democrats on Capitol Hill holding an unofficial hearing today to debate" ... !
VandeHei explained, "... what you had here were antiwar liberals holding a mock hearing.... it‘s interesting, I mean, my e-mailbox has been filled with e-mails from several Democrats who are just angry that the media‘s not doing enough on the issue."
This evening, on Lou Dobbs, the same-0 (zero), same-0, bland Richard Gephardt (sp?) saying that the memo had nothing in it, that we should move on. (I paraphrase, of course. He must think he is running for President again, not unlike the last Democratic candidate, (Almost As Bland) who has such strange timing for releasing pertinent information, and hires the Republican attorneys in Ohio to investigate the vote count.)
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Arry
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:04 pm PT...
Here's mine:
Dear Sirs,
Mr. Milbank's absurd and demeaning article "Democrats Play House To Rally Against the War" about the June 16th Conyers hearings was a new low point in the evaporating credibility of the Washington Post.
We would expect something of the sort from a low-level courtier of power who hasn't a clue about journalistic standards and whose sole purpose is to ingratiate himself into the current regime or his Beltway bosses. By printing such sloppy, nonfactual, absurdly slanted, sycophantic, sneering drivel, the Washington Post has abdicated any kind of pretense of journalistic standards worthy of a 'major newspaper".
If Mr. Milbank believes that the Conyers hearings were a game and that clear evidence of misleading Congress and the public about the reasons for going to war resulting in the deaths of more than 1700 Americans is unworthy of congressional investigation and testimony or serious journalistic interest, then we - millions of concerned Americans - will certainly consider Mr. Milbank and the Washington Post unworthy of consideration and get our journalism from the hands of those do who take it seriously.
There is dangerous abuse of power in our nation, and it is clear that the Washington Post is a participant in it.
Nevertheless, I hope you will have the minimal decency to publish Rep. Conyers letter to the Post dated June 17 in reply to Mr. Milbank's childish essay.
Sincerely,
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big dan
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:06 pm PT...
Dana Milbank spits in the face of all of our troops killed in action, by making light of the serious inquiries of John Conyers, inquiring whether our troops may have been misled into a war with lies. This is serious business, and Dana Milbank's coverage is disgraceful, and so is the Washington Post. They're a big joke, now. They've been a big joke for a long time. Who is the editor that allowed this to be published? He's more responsible than Dana Milbank. The editor of the Chicago Tribune suppressed a column about voter fraud, and the Washington Post allows coverage of a serious matter, with derrogatory opinion.
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:22 pm PT...
#44
Big Dan,
I hope you've emailed your sentiments to WaPo, using Brad's email info.
VG
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big dan
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:22 pm PT...
To Buckshot comment #26.
You don't get it. The rich have a high % of disposable income, so they can pay more taxes. They made their $$$ in a society, called the United States of America. Societies are as strong as their weakest link, and especially in democratic societies, we should all be striving for the greater good of everyone. Poor people have ZERO disposable income. Even though your comment has nothing to do with the Milbank subject, it needed response. Maybe we should lower the riches taxes even more, so there's more of a gap between rich and poor, and the poor will revolt. There's lots more of them, ever think of that? Throughout history, whenever the gap between rich and poor got out of hand, there was revolution. Do you want that? What's your point, by the way?
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MMIIXX
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:37 pm PT...
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COLLEEN
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:53 pm PT...
It's like Milbank obviously had his own agenda. Was this an op-ed piece?
If not, how could he ridicule the DSM forem for taking place in the "broom closet" etc, when that proves the 1 party rule tactics of the Repub leadership?
Thus adding to the seriousness of the accusations of the forum.
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Valley Girl
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:56 pm PT...
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Citizen A
said on 6/17/2005 @ 5:56 pm PT...
Dear Mr. Milbank,
To even quantify the term "journalist" with the likes of you is a direct slap in the face to every newsman that has faced the adversity of war on the battle lines.
I qualify that by being a former Decorated U.S. Navy Photographer. I know what it is like be carrying a camera, while everyone else is carrying a gun.
Your recent condescending, factually incorrect article on the Downing Street Memo hearings chaired by the honorable Congressman Conyers, and many other distinguished Members of the House, is an affront to what the WaPo used to stand for.
Take a look at the Pulitzer Prizes decorating the walls, look at the distinguished names, the likes of which you will never be spoken with in the same breath.
It pains me to have to comment on your neo-con controlled spin of the serious historic hearings yesterday. Your article was so fraught with inaccuracies that I could write a Gettysburg Address sized rebuttal. It would be fruitless however, because I doubt any one there that proof reads this drivel has more than an eighth grade education, hence I presume you receive some sort of paycheck for your irrelevant ramblings in print.
I'll bet you get all the "Skittles" you can eat.
You sir are a complete waste of time. Your articles aren't worthy of wrapping fish, let alone the lining of a cat box.
You are a disgrace to the profession of journalism. You should get a broom and a shovel with a tall set of boots to clean out your office of the fecal matter you write and pass off as a news story.
And continue to sweep it down the street to the nearest landfill, where it can be disposed of as hazardous waste.
Citizen A
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Charles
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Justin Orndorff
said on 6/17/2005 @ 6:33 pm PT...
Another interesting tidbit that I found upon inspecting today's print version of WaPo A6. The AP wire story that Rep. Conyers mentions, which disproves Milbank's statement that Conyers was the sole member of Congress which brought up the DWM on the floor, ran below Milbank's article. Now, the online which the Post put on their website was 'Democrats Cite Downing Street Memo in Bolton Fight' (the same as what appeared in the original AP wire story). In the print version, however, the exact same story ran in full, but with a different title - 'Senators to Call for Bolton Vote.'
This is a title which not only deflects the possibility of the above article's statement being false, but isn't at all newsworthy. Senators have called for a vote on Bolton for a considerable amount of time now. Nothing catchy or attention-grabbing.
So, the question is, did the WaPo editors purposely change the title of the AP wire story in the print version in order to misinform the public regarding Conyers' lone stance on mentioning DSM?
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Alison
said on 6/17/2005 @ 6:39 pm PT...
Why did the headline of the NY Times article look like it was written by Scott McClellan?
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COLLEEN
said on 6/17/2005 @ 6:56 pm PT...
Wow. Great letters. Charles, too.
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jen
said on 6/17/2005 @ 7:40 pm PT...
LOL! You guys rock! Between the 6 or 7 letters from here, the 6 or 7 from CCN and who knows how many from Kos, maybe 8 or 9? well geesh, that's like SEVERAL letters!