READER COMMENTS ON
"CENSORING AGAIN: Comcast Blocks Emails Linking to Cindy Sheehan Website!"
(231 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Pamela de Maigret
said on 8/17/2005 @ 11:56 pm PT...
All four of my tests came back to me
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Winter Patriot
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:04 am PT...
Thanks, Pamela.
Anyone else?
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Kat
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:09 am PT...
I did not receive test #3.
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Anon
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:51 am PT...
It might be helpful to state exactly which smtp (for sending email) and pop3 (receiving) servers you have in your email application settings.
I don't know whether different Comcast customers would have different settings but it may help establish any patterns.
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jpentz
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:59 am PT...
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Bejammin075
said on 8/18/2005 @ 3:26 am PT...
I have Comcast cable and internet service, but not email. I can still threaten to switch my services if they are fucking with our democracy. Just give the word, and 6 or 7 of us will get real upity.
The first time, I'll give them a pass. The 2nd time, it looks like a pattern.
I'd like to know if they any conservatives had to call Comcast to straighten out their site(s) getting filtered?
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nategold
said on 8/18/2005 @ 4:14 am PT...
I did not receive test 3, got all the others. If anyone has high level contact info at Comcast and Brightmail from before please email them to me at nateg@pobox.com. I discovered this problem yesterday.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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nategold
said on 8/18/2005 @ 4:18 am PT...
Note that this is being blocked on *outgoing* and also incoming. I also sent all 4 to a yahoo account and #3 did not make it *out* of comcast. For smtp from comcast I use port 465 SSL, but I doubt this has anything to do with it. I also sent #3 from yahoo to comcast and it did not get in. yahoo to yahoo, #3 works fine.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/18/2005 @ 5:50 am PT...
If you didn't get all 4, then there's something funny going on, period!
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MysticalStar
said on 8/18/2005 @ 6:01 am PT...
Thanks for the warning!
I also had the previous censorship problem- but with COX (who uses the same Brightmail filters as Comcast), which I never would've realized what was happening if I hadn't read about it on here.
I reported it to COX. The Tech Representative refused to believe me and was very rude- so I spoke with a supervisor and showed her, using my COX email and Yahoo email that there were no problems with yahoo but there was a problem with COX, including the emails sent FROM cox email accounts. When I showed her, she admitted that "something" was wrong. I aslo showed her the posts on BradBlog that alerted me to the problem and told her I was about to post my experience on BradBlog also (which I did). She she'd get back to me... which she never did... but in a week or so the problem was eventually corrected.
Now I am also having a problem with this. I sent them, as requested, from my cox acct to my cox and yahoo accts, and received all.
However, when I put it in the email itself (not just the subject), the ones with "www" in the email itself (# 1 and #3) that I send from COX mysteriously disappear and never reach my cox or yahoo accts, but I received the other two that didn't have the "www".
Also, when sent from yahoo email to cox email, the ones with "www" are received in the spam folder. Without the "www" they are received properly.
Cox/Brightmail is apparently censoring *outgoing* mail again.
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Heather
said on 8/18/2005 @ 6:08 am PT...
I have service with BellSouth (not Comcast) but wanted to do the test out of curiosity. I did not receive Test #3 back. It appears that those with service other than Comcast should be doing this test as well. I will test a half a dozen or so more times over the course of today and tomorrow at different times in the day and let you know the outcome.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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onyx
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:02 am PT...
I'm with Adelphia, I got everything EXCEPT #3. Looks like they are all using the same blocking software and spam databases. The question is how do these ligitimate sites get into the database.
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Mtber
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:18 am PT...
Comcast customer here... #3 (full webiste name w/ "www" in the body of the message) did not come back... Tried it several times... Very fishy!!!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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MysticalStar
said on 8/18/2005 @ 7:33 am PT...
correction to #10:
I repeated it with same results from cox and yahoo. Same results.
However in my previous post I meant to say #3 (with it in the email body itself) was the only one "disappearing" and only *outgoing* (when I send it from cox email acct). I can receive it in cox email acct but it is marked as spam and delivered in the spam folder.
NO problems with my yahoo acct.
(sorry about the mistake- it was too early in the morning for me!)
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Jack
said on 8/18/2005 @ 8:00 am PT...
when I used www.meetwithcindy.org in the body in 5 attempts it went into screened mail. When I used it in the subject line it went through 5 times.
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deltaverde
said on 8/18/2005 @ 8:06 am PT...
Sending from my non-Comcast work account to my Comcast private account, #1 goes to my inbox, #3 goes to screened mail, and #2 & #4 just disappear.
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Ilene Baranowitz
said on 8/18/2005 @ 8:06 am PT...
I have Comcast internet also - sent the 4 emails, and also sent one with the wrong info as you directed. I received back all, including the one with the wrong info, but NOT #3!
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Jack
said on 8/18/2005 @ 8:45 am PT...
I have tried sending mail with www.meetwithcindy.org in the subject line and the body. Those messages are held on their server as screened mail and it is not sent to my Outlook Express using the same address. Something is fishy here for sure.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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anon a mouse
said on 8/18/2005 @ 9:01 am PT...
I just tried sending the four e-mails as described, from one HOTMAIL account to another. Got three of the four. Test #3 did not arrive. FISHY? FOR SURE!
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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CC
said on 8/18/2005 @ 9:31 am PT...
SOB BASTRSD$(*$#(*)&#$(U*
I hate comcast
YES I'm being blocked
#3 was screened by comcast incoming.... 3 times
and after about 10 minutes i've only gotten one of the ~~ 10 test e-mails I sent myself from two external accounts, i'll do more thorough testing later if needed
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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meg mcbride
said on 8/18/2005 @ 9:33 am PT...
I received emails two and four - but NOT 1 and 3 - they were not even in my "screened" folder!
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Americana
said on 8/18/2005 @ 9:59 am PT...
I sent them from my comcast account to my yahoo - only received 2 & 4. Nothing in the spam filter.
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Ziggyczar
said on 8/18/2005 @ 10:04 am PT...
Apparently it's not just Comcast.
Am using SBC DSL: outgoing server is .mac; outgoing mail server port is 587. Sent all four to SBC Yahoo account. Received 3 out of four. Did not receive Test # 3. What's up?
"America Stands with Cindy" vigil last night had a supportive 100 plus on one street corner in a very conservative neck of the woods. Let's all hope the silence has been broken.
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Laurie B
said on 8/18/2005 @ 10:06 am PT...
I have earthlink. not comcast, but tried the test anyway. I did NOT receive test #3. Tests 1,2 and 4 came through without problems.
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Zero
said on 8/18/2005 @ 10:30 am PT...
I got them all Brad, although I wouldn't doubt it if they were blocking emails at some point.
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Ziggyczar
said on 8/18/2005 @ 10:50 am PT...
See post #23. One hour later I was able to receive Test #3 using the same paths, however the first Test #3 never arrived and is not in spam either.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Torqued
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:00 am PT...
My local ISP works fine sending/receiving all the email tests. Obviously the corporate ISPs are not any more good for our country and it's citizens than Walmart.
Dump the mother fuckers and don't look back. Support your local economies within your community for a change.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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dusty
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:22 am PT...
I have comcast cable internet and hotmail in Washington State. I recieved all four messages promptly.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Brian Glennon
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:32 am PT...
All four were sent and received. 8-18-05 11:30 AM PST
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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bill
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:38 am PT...
Got all four of my test email
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Carl Lloyd
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:40 am PT...
All four came back to me here in Grand Blanc, Michigan
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Lev
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:42 am PT...
I received all 4 emails immediately.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Ellen
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:46 am PT...
I have aol and comcast. I did the 4 tests from my aol account to my comcast account and received the emails from tests 1 and 4 to my comcast account while I did not receive tests 2 and 3 to my comcast account.
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Paula
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:47 am PT...
AOL seems to work fine. I sent all four from one AOL screen name to another and got all four.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Paula
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:49 am PT...
I just posted about AOL. I also use a small cable company for my high speed access with AOL (Patriot Media) and so they are OK too I guess? I don't know which would be responsible for the screening and censorship.
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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mpower1952
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:51 am PT...
I am in Knoxville TN and use Knology.
I received all four emails.
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jchristy
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:52 am PT...
All 4 came back...maybe they have "fixed" it already.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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d
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:54 am PT...
if you start a petition, i will sign!!
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Dave Dacey
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:57 am PT...
Perhaps it's a good idea that each of us not only list our service provider, or our email service...but also the state we reside in. I wonder if it could be much more intricate than just the providers.
Then putting a map of confirmation together may be helpful... a us state by state map.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/18/2005 @ 11:59 am PT...
I predicted previously, the last frontier of freedom of speech, the internet, the wild wild west of information, would begin to be attacked by those who want to suppress news...the same people who are suppressing news in the mainstream media.
They know the only thing stopping them from controlling everything is the internet. They have their sites on the internet. WATCH OUT!
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Eric
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:00 pm PT...
I subscribe to Cox in Florida and all 4 came through fine.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:03 pm PT...
Instead of just being happy the problem was "fixed" (if it was), can we find out exactly WHO did this? They did it with downingstreetmemo.org (I think I spelled that right), too, not too long ago. The obligatory explanation of somehow it got in the SPAM database, blah blah blah blah blah......
But twice now? And both with emails that make Bush look bad???
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:05 pm PT...
IT'S A COINCIDENCE! Just like ALL the errors on electronic voting machines go in favor of the GOP! IT'S ALL COINCIDENCE!!! (don't ya just luv me?)
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markus alrealius alrightus
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:11 pm PT...
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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nategold
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:11 pm PT...
I discovered the problem yesterday. Just now, with comcast, this seems to have been fixed for me. You can see my postings above from earlier today.
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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nategold
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:14 pm PT...
If you had the problem and it is now fixed, I suggest that you demand from comcast or cox or whoever a) why it happened and b) how long did it happen and c) what assurances are there that it will not happen again.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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jj24
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:16 pm PT...
hey - i got tests #2, #3, and #4 - sending from comcast to yahoo...
test #1 with www.meetwithcindy.org in the subject did not show up.
ARGH!!!
thx for the heads up.
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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Michael Hawthorne
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:17 pm PT...
I sent the 4 emails to my MSN, Yahoo, Gmail, and my work e-mail address which is run through the Message Labs spam and virus filtering service.
I had no problems with any of them, though I actually expected to see problems with Yahoo!
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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JR
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:21 pm PT...
I got all 4 tests received with no problems.
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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Val
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:24 pm PT...
I have a comcast e-mail address, I sent all 3 e-amils from my hotmail address to comcast address and only received Test 2 and 3. After about an hour test 4 showed up. WTF!!!!
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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Val
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:25 pm PT...
I have a comcast e-mail address, I sent all 3 e-amils from my hotmail address to comcast address and only received Test 2 and 3. After about an hour test 4 showed up. WTF!!!!
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
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suilebhan
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:27 pm PT...
I use comcast for email and i received all four emails.
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
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james k. sayre
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:28 pm PT...
Hi. I just tested the four suggested Emails with Yahoo Email and Yahoo sent the Emails to me with no problem.
What is wrong with Comcast Email? Are they just plain incompentent or malicious?
Yours truly,
James K. Sayre
18 August 2005.
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
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mr
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:30 pm PT...
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
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ill duce
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:32 pm PT...
Has anyone thought to try other web addresses in the subject line? I received all four of my test, and I'm on Comcast. You can't really say they are censoring unless you have tested it with other addresses. Try Truthout.org and moveon.org in the subjectline. Try Freerepublic.com in the subject line. Mostof the spam filtering software is not smart enough to know one from the other.'m a very suspicious person, but having worked with software, I can say that most of it is buggy and worthless.
COMMENT #56 [Permalink]
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PENNY
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:33 pm PT...
COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
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BradListener
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:33 pm PT...
I sent the 4 tests from my account at AOL to my account at Yahoo, and then the 4 tests from Yahoo to AOL. Everything received, EXCEPT test #4 from Yahoo to AOL. It disappeared, it didn't go to spam, nothing. I retried test #4 again from Yahoo to AOL. Still nothing.
COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
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Elena Lobito
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT...
All 4 of my tests came back. thanks.
COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
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Noisy Democrat
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT...
I don't use a Comcast e-mail account, but they provide my internet access (i.e. cable modem); not sure if that counts. Anyway, I got all 4 test messages.
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
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Wally
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT...
All four tests worked, so the filter has probably been reprogrammed by now. I did notice a lag time in test #3; i.e., I sent it before test #4 but it appeared in my inbox a little after, but still within a few seconds. Possibly test #3 was run through another step or two in the filter before it was cleared for takeoff. My test was conducted through my office ISP (not Comcast) through my Comcast Internet logon.
COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
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crabapple
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:35 pm PT...
I have Cox and they all came back
COMMENT #62 [Permalink]
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Phil S
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:35 pm PT...
I have Cox here in CT, and had no delays or problems.
COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
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Leigh
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:41 pm PT...
Yahoo e-mail seems to check out okay. All four e-mails received without problem.
COMMENT #64 [Permalink]
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hgj
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:45 pm PT...
I am in Washington State, using Speakeasy DSL and a .mac account. All four tests came through successfully.
I don't know how many of you know this, but it's something we discussed in a grad school class on evaluating technology: Cable internet is NOT regulated the same as DSL (The Big Difference). The FCC considers cable an "entertainment" technology, but DSL is a "communication" technology (because it is delivered over telephone wires). So the expectations we have about lack of censorship, or otherwise inhibiting our free communication, apply to telephone technologies, but not cable.
Cable providers can therefore legally inhibit your access to competitors' sites in searches, as well as steer you to content that they profit from or approve of.
Sorry, but the only power you have is to vote with your feet and go DSL.
COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
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Don
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:47 pm PT...
COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
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deb
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:47 pm PT...
Hi, My isp is knology. I am in Ala. I did the tests and all 4 came back. Thank you for all that you are doing.
COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
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Nictuku
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:48 pm PT...
I have a COVAD account, and did NOT receive the tests sent to myself from that account which contained the www prefix.
I'M PISSED!
COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
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Randall
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:49 pm PT...
I sent the messages to my Yahoo account and received test messages 1, 2, and 4 immediately (and in that order). Message 3 was received about 5 minutes later.
COMMENT #69 [Permalink]
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Peter Jensen
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:56 pm PT...
My email provider is Cox, I sent the emails and got all of them back.
COMMENT #70 [Permalink]
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sgifford
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:57 pm PT...
I have comcast and I got all four of the tests back.
Sharron
COMMENT #71 [Permalink]
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zzaxx
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:58 pm PT...
i sent messages via interland (biz addy) --- all four came back without error
i sent same four via adelphia (home addy) --- all four came back without error
COMMENT #72 [Permalink]
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rudicus
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:58 pm PT...
I just did it at 3:55pm EST. I got emails #2 and #4 - it is the www that triggers it.
COMMENT #73 [Permalink]
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Marybeth Kuznik
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:59 pm PT...
All four tests received back quickly (did it just now.)
COMMENT #74 [Permalink]
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Nictuku
said on 8/18/2005 @ 12:59 pm PT...
Covad: Sent email to myself from the Covad account, and only received 2 without the www prefix.
I then went to my yahoo account, and sent from yahoo to my Covad account, and received all 4.
So it would appear to me that my Covad account is blocking outgoing emails with the www.meetwithcindy.org in either the body or subject.
COMMENT #75 [Permalink]
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lulu
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:02 pm PT...
Earthlink: Received each of the test emails...
COMMENT #76 [Permalink]
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akizaryn
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:03 pm PT...
All four went through for me to my Yahoo mail.
COMMENT #77 [Permalink]
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lulu
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:04 pm PT...
For those where the 'www' blocked email, why not try a test with www.blahblahblah.org just to make sure it's not generic...
COMMENT #78 [Permalink]
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TJ
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:04 pm PT...
1,2 and 3 came back just fine and really fast.
COMMENT #79 [Permalink]
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JPR
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:06 pm PT...
What all of the naysayers don't know, or not telling, it ComCast is very contentuous with virtual private networks as well. In other words, some ComCast customers are unable to have stable connections to their workplace and when asked about it, they blame it on the company. I know, because I worked the help desk for a major company whose employees in the north and northeast use ComCast. Having said that, I wouldn't jump the gun and claim censorship, unless you are a disciple of Alex Jones, but poor customer service
COMMENT #80 [Permalink]
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rudicus
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:17 pm PT...
I just got the other two 15 minutes later - I wonder if there is a screening hold.
COMMENT #81 [Permalink]
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vjack
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:20 pm PT...
Of the 4 e-mails, I received all of them.
COMMENT #82 [Permalink]
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BayouBoy
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:20 pm PT...
All four made it to my comcast account (Northern VA) from my work (non-comcast) account.
COMMENT #83 [Permalink]
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laura
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:21 pm PT...
I did all four tests from my yahoo to comcast email accounts and all four went through.No problem.
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JeffSD
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:22 pm PT...
COMMENT #85 [Permalink]
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Don Briggs
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:22 pm PT...
Comcast is my ISP.
I sent the 4 test e-mails and received them all promptly.
COMMENT #86 [Permalink]
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Sandy
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:22 pm PT...
All four messages sent by comcast were received correctly 4:20 pm.
COMMENT #87 [Permalink]
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Mark LaFlaur
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:27 pm PT...
All four of my e-mails came through (from my work address to this home address). --ML, NYC
COMMENT #88 [Permalink]
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lisa
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:32 pm PT...
sent all four e-mails to my husband's e-mail address and received all four.
COMMENT #89 [Permalink]
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neal
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:34 pm PT...
I have a comcast email at work and sent the 4 emails from my yahoo to the comsat email. Test #2 did not go through...
COMMENT #90 [Permalink]
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wayne
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:37 pm PT...
All four emails to the account provided failed!!!! Still nothing after an hour...
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Jim Robbins
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:38 pm PT...
I'm a comcast subscriber, and all 4 emails returned to me promptly. I have spam filtering turned off on my account because I use popfile to despam my mail after it arrives. Check to see if you have spam filters enabled with your ISP
COMMENT #92 [Permalink]
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Clare Walsh
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:39 pm PT...
I use Charter.net for email - my cable provider in Texas. I got all 4 back.
COMMENT #93 [Permalink]
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Anita
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:40 pm PT...
Earthlink is fine. I received all 4 messages. Everyone switch to Earthlink!
COMMENT #94 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:40 pm PT...
Did not receive #2 - weird...
COMMENT #95 [Permalink]
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ron
said on 8/18/2005 @ 1:41 pm PT