Absolutely fantastic !!! The Pro-War people need to see the results of their support. Death is terrible, but sometimes living can be harder.

I want to start demanding answers from the supporters of Bush's war...are your kids serving?
Why not?

Found a fax number for Milt Romney, Gov of Massachuesetts 617-727-9725 write to him and ask since he is a strong Bush supporter why are his 3 sons ages 23-35 not enlisting?

Accountability starts NOW.

Brad, I just have to say that this is the most riveting radio I've ever heard. Tomas exemplifies the fine young men and women duhbaya tricked into this extraordinarily filthy war, the fine lives destroyed or damaged beyond the comprehension of the coarse little solipsist ensconced just a few miles away from the sacred ground of Camp Casey. Keep pouring it on! I hope to join you in Washington. Love and Peace, brothers and sisters!

Texas Lady, Im noticing most people at the pro bush war rallies are Free Republicans and are like kids.

What in the hell is that about? Most of these free republicans are barely out of high school, or at most age 30 and never gone to college!

Why are these folks so undereducated and oblivious to the facts, that they stage pep rallies but won't enlist or even help promote the war?

Oh Boy! Only a little over an hour to feeding time

I think you should check your facts on stem cell research. You will find that during your hero's administration, that being "Slick Willy" ,there was little or no support. Bush has promoted the research. He just doesn't think that the taxpayers should pay for it.

LJS you are the one who should check your facts. Nobody around here has ever called "Slick WIlly" our "hero". And that's just for starters.

Hey, LJS. Stem cell research is new science. Perhaps if Dear Leader allowed stelm cell research to progress, it could be used to grow a brain for you. :hehe:

I didn't mean feeding time for the trolls - I meant feeding time for all us BraqdShow devotees, natch!

# 3 The Young Republicans held a convention in Las Vegas a month ago...when asked why they aren't enlisting..they said they were supporting in "other ways here at home." No one pushed for a better answer.

Oh and they left Las Vegas leaving unpaid bills, quite a flap for a short while.

The very least the supporters could do is volunteer at a VA hospital, or find a family in the area caring for a vet and offer any kind of support. But oh, it so much easier to slap a ribbon on your car and feel you did your share.

Here's a way to send this great article to the media:

FAIR

To all of you at the Brad Blog, keep up the pressure
your efforts are unprecidented. We can hope that others will take notice and notes, as to how you have enlightened and ignited others to action. The lack of overt action by other progressive organizations saddens me. But all of us must continue to open the eyes of others and if it has to be one or two at a time, so be it.

OT........any news concerning W.Madsen besides the article by Szymanski?

Steve J. thank you, you have saved me time trying to locate this information for my questions to the national media. Thanks again

Sure hope Winter Patriot sends Specialist Young's article.

re #12 please don't rely on ME to send articles... that's a job for ALL of us!!

WP

Hope your feeling better, good to have you back.

Ok - will do...also sending it to our local paper.
Thanks

The only things smaller and less-significant
than the brains of Bushites
are their microscopic morals.

But their hatred of America and its freedoms is vast and boundless.

Winter Patriot:

Please ask Brad to share a copy of both the Ten Characteristics (over at the Whispering Campaign) and the Dedication to the US Armed Forces with Specialist Young, as well as all the others at Camp Casey.

Both, I think, help reinforce their efforts.

We have also posted an essay entitled "The Right to Dissent and to Demand Accountability" that folks at Camp Casey might find uplifting.

For anyone interested: all of our essays and papers are open-copyright to the Citizens of the United States; please feel free to print and distribute as you see fit.

Here's the Dedication to the US Armed Forces (I think GreyHawk posted it in an earlier thread under a different Camp Casey topic, so hope the repetition is not offensive):

Dedication to the US Armed Forces
from the People of the United States*

Two hundred and twenty-nine years ago our Founding Fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all people are created equal. Now we are engaged in foreign battles, initiated upon false premises, testing whether this nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.

The brave souls, living and dead, who have struggled in this time of war remind us of the costs of such folly far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will note and long remember what has been done and the damage we have wrought, and neither it nor we will ever forget.

It is for us, the living, to be re-dedicated to the unfinished work which those who have fought and died believed they nobly pursued.

It is for us, the survivors, to be dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation shall enjoy the re-birth of freedom, and that this government of the People, by the People, for the People shall not perish from this earth.

*Based upon the Gettysburg Address

Hop on over to the new OPEN THREAD! Show's ON!

Bush doesn't need to meet with anybody because he believes in Intelligent Design is at work in Iraq.

re #17 True Patriot: please feel free to contact Brad directly with anything you'd like to share. You can reach him here:

TheBradBlog@cville.com

again re #17: The Whispering Campaign has finally got off its butt and published Dedication to the US Armed Forces by American Patriot.

Thanks for the reminder and best wishes to all at patriotsall.blogspot.com

In Comment #5, LJS said under Clinton "there was little or no support" for stem cell research.

Quit listening to Rush. Your statement is like saying Abraham Lincoln showed "little or no support" for space exploration.

My source says "human embryonic stem cells were first isolated in 1997"

In January 1999 "once the cells are obtained, they are no longer organisms or even precursors to organisms...NIH director Harold Varmus hopes to begin funding such projects by March"

Then Bush was elected.

CALL A CHICKEN HAWK... NOW

Milt Romney, Gov of Massachuesetts

617-725-1100

I just called... this # woirks

Give him, Bu$h and other Repugs... & Dems

A call...

ask em...

Since he is a strong Bush-WAR

Supporter...

Why O why are his

Kids not enlisting ?

from... 1 Pissed off Vet

at...

www.RogerART.com

Oops, the html didn't take.

My source is http://tinyurl.com/btmry

Excellent, Fracas Futile #22! Thanks for the information. Amazing what one can learn when one is interested (or knows how to study,) eh?

#20 & #21 Winter Patriot:

Many thanks to The Whispering Campaing for publishing the Dedication. I noticed that it was up there as I sent Brad and the other Patriots at Camp Casey an email just now; all the folks as USPatriotsUnited will be glad to see it up there.

Keep up the good work!

COMMENT #8 [link]
...czaragorn said on 8/29/2005 @ 9:26am PT...

"I didn't mean feeding time for the trolls - I meant feeding time for all us BraqdShow devotees, natch! "

Feeding tube time for trolls. They demand the right to feeding tubes on all threads. (/frist)

Specialist Young is a Profile in Courage. The media ignores the voices of the wounded who return home and question the underlying premise of war, the support for all current and past military, and the fact that science affordss us a chance to help people in new ways. Yet Bush starts stumbling blocks with underfunded mandates and claims this to be groundbreaking leadership.

The Bush legacy continues in its brazen trampling of the public's good faith under a guise of humility.

I phoned Romney's office just now. They were very polite and efficient. (See #23 for number.) Explained that I had a teenage son who would end up in Iraq soon, by draft, if that war is not put to an end--so could Romney's children please go over there now and fight, if it's so important?

They will pass my comments on to the gov. So, I'm waiting by the phone now for his call-back...

Good post. I linked your ad on my site and on Daily Kos. I don't know what the trackbacks are all about so I didn't do that. What excuses will the Bushistas use for Tomas? He didn't die and only dead soldiers get to meet with Bush? Also please make it easier to stream your show directly from your site. If it is there somewhere I can't find it. I has to be more obvious, and rise above the clutter :satisfied:

We have a great country, but even in a great country corrupt leaders can take hold and that is what we have now. Repubs like to say we should support our President, but when the President has lied to get us into a war all bets are off. Not only is Bush inept, he is a proven coward that is only willing to have others do the fighting. George Bush was a prep school cheerleader and he joined the national guard to avoid Viet Nam. On top of this he tries to act like a tough leader when in fact his past smacks of being a coward. He lied to get us in a war and because of this brave American men and women have died, and many others were seriouly wounded like Specialist Young. The protests are only beginning.

Uni 29 - You should definitely board up your house - after all, victims are fair game

#23 & 29 - Sent my letter by fax to Gov Romny
Asking him to be an EXAMPLE of a good politician and explain to taxpayers why he wasn't encouraging his sons to enlist.

Said it would look great on his resume as he wants to get to the White House.

I was just listening to NPR. In the middle of the interview, Cindy Sheehan says' Thanks, got to go" and she hangs up. I guess she could have needed to go to the bathroom, but it sounded more like her handlers cut the interview off. The questions she was being asked did not seem to warrant that behaviour. Anyone know about this and has some more insight. Because if her handlers did put a stop to the interview, they did her more harm than good. If thisw is the case, i have toi ask why the left always sabotages itself when victory is immenent?? NPR had the anti cindy protest leader. This guy spouted of a bunch of right wing talking points and said he learned about Cindy and her support groups in church... No wonder he spouted such garbage.

When they interviewed Johnson yesterday the one who has the bush stuff he sells ,, sure looked very stupid
He was bad mouthing Cindy and he is dumb as a box of rocks
He says that she is a threat to the troops but really isnt clear on anything but fox news mumble jumble
He didnt mention that we are letting a terrorist stay in Usa that should be deported back to Venuzeula for blowin up a plane and killing people ,, He worked for the Cia in ,,Usa ,,
So if Cindy is so bad as the repukes say ,,, how come we are keeping a well known terrorist in USA that needs to stand trial for his crimes ,,, ,and Bush is letting him stay here ,,go figure
So Cindy ,, God bless you and keep up the good fight ,,
When interviewing the repukes ask them why bush is harboring a terrorist in usa as we speak

no soldiers should ever have to be on food stanps to feed theirs

lower ranks always have to scrub by, there should be a standard of living above that for anyone who ever served or is doing so now

the media does not address this, it takes someone who has paid the price(the Young family, the Sheehan family) to even be listened to if they voice such concerns

Whatta Guy! I'm sure good fortune will follow you, my friend! Old Rush is fading! Great job as always!

Tomas, don't forget ask him why his twin daughters aren't serving over in Iraq... and Cheney's daughter Mary too.

These scoundrels pose as superpatriots, but you don't see their kids going over to Iraq any more than you saw George or Dick going over to Vietnam.

bush needs to be impeached for lying and misleading the country. There is a blog on DU about a zogby poll and just maybe we are not alone. He needs to be impeached!!!!!

#35 well Bush let the mother of all terrorists, Osama, slide by, only had 20,000 troops at the border to catch this guy, when the Generals told him we needed 5 times that. - maybe because he is a Saudi national?

If Bush had any loyalty to the American public, why would you kiss the cheek of the Saudi Prince visiting your ranch? Even Barbara Walters thought that was a slap in our face.

#39 - you will be pleased to know that Pat Buchanan is calling for Bush's impeachment, but not for killing and wounding our troops.

But for not providing proper border patrol...now I totally agree that we need border patrol and impeaching Bush. But lets get the priorities straight.

A good note - Ann Coulter lost her column in the Arizona Star newspaper - Editor said conservatives were writting and saying she was nasty and mean spirited. Imagine that ! Could it also be she couldn't tell the truth if it hit her in the face.
Well thats one down, maybe O'Reilly and Limbaugh will follow.

{Ed note: Inappropriate, hateful propoganda removed.}

ONE MORE TIME - BUSH LET 9/11 HAPPEN - BUSH TOOK THE TARGET OFF OSAMA

Cindy Sheehan just wants the killing and wounding to stop. IT WASN'T A NOBLE CAUSE IT WAS POLITICAL GREED !

In 1993, the first World Trade Center bombing killed six people.

In 1998, the bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa killed 224.

Both were the work of al-Qaida and bin Laden, who in 1998 declared holy war on America, making him arguably the most wanted man in the world.

In 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”

NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

August 6, 2001 DPB
"Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States"

Who missed that opportunity?
Clinton told the Bush people Bin Laden/Terrorism should be a top priority.
They weren't that interested.

And the troops in Afganistan when they had Osama pinned down...the Generals asked for more troops and NONE were given? Why? because Bush wanted to send the troops into Iraq instead of Afganistan.
And the way for that is many reasons, Osama can tell what Poppy Bush gave him, Osama is a Saudi and Poppy and Cheney just got back from Saudi two weeks ago.

OR MAYBE OSAMA DID NOT DO 9/11 AND BUSH SURE AS SH-T DOESN'T WANT THAT TO COME OUT IF WE CAUGHT OSAMA ALIVE AND HE COULD PROVE IT.

Iraq had no connection to 9-11. People using 9-11 references talking about Iraq are deceptive and misleading.

Article one, Section 8 "Congress is to promotethe progress of science..." this no longer should apply only to patents. Clearly the Consititution has made a model of increased liberty, by limitng the original scope of Freedom to all races and both gender.

Then easily one could conclude the same purpose of promoting sciences extends beyond the bounds of patent law and should move forward, in an age of development, into the realm of endorsing new scientific advance.

The Chief Executive should uphold the same obligation towards determining the truth and using it to promote the common good for individuals and commerce.

promote the*

I would like to add to the information about stem cell research from #22.

The GWBushco. era has been the darkest time for science and scientists in our country, ever. I’ll address only the stem cell issue here.

A federal bill that Bush has promised to veto

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Research using embryo stem cells had been authorized in Britain, but was initially halted in the U.S. by President George W. Bush. He decided on 2001-AUG-9 to allow research to resume in government labs, but restricted researchers to use only 72 existing lines of stem cells. By 2003-MAY, most of these lines had become useless; some of the lines are genetically identical to others; only 11 remained available for research. By mid-2005, all are believed to be useless for research.

A federal bill passed the House on 2005-MAY-24 to allow government funded research on embryonic stem cells extracted from surplus embryos in fertility clinics. It will be voted upon by the Senate in the fall of 2005. President Bush has promised to veto it.
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The Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation

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The Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation (CRPF), the non-profit organization founded by the late actor Christopher Reeve and his wife Dana Reeve to fund research for cures and treatments for spinal cord injuries and provide resources for people living with disabilities, applauds the House of Representatives for voting in favor of H.R. 810, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act.

The CRPF will continue to support the bill to ensure its passage in the Senate and enactment into law. [ed. note- CRPF actively supported passage of H.R. 810]
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IVF embryos

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Many human fertility clinics perform In-vitro Fertilization (IVF) procedures. Their goal is to impregnate women who otherwise would not be able to have a child. The procedure involves (first steps omitted):

Then--Selecting two to four healthy-looking embryos and implanting them in the woman's uterus.

Then--Disposing of the remaining 20 or so surplus embryos in some manner

The disposal of almost all of the embryos results, or will result, in their death. Yet, even though the pro-life movement regards all embryos as human persons, pro-lifer leaders seem to be mainly concerned about the few dozen embryos which have been killed by having their stem cells extracted. There seems to be little or no concern over the many hundreds of thousands of embryos which have been killed or which will eventually die in IVF clinics.
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Bush administration distorts scientific knowledge on stem cell research

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The new cases released by the Union of Concerned Scientists detail incidents of suppression and distortion of scientific knowledge on issues ranging from mountaintop removal strip mining to endangered species. Included in these additional cases are numerous new accounts of political interference with independent scientific advisory panels, most notably at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) under the Department of Health and Human Services.

Dr. Janet Rowley, recipient of the National Medal of Science, the Lasker Prize—the most distinguished American honor for clinical medical research—and a current member of the President’s Advisory Council on Bioethics (said) “Our government has a responsibility to consider accurate scientific evidence when it makes decisions that affect human health. I have seen first hand through the President’s Council that this administration distorts scientific knowledge on stem cell research, which makes it increasingly difficult to have an honest debate in a field that holds promise for treatment of many serious diseases like Parkinson’s and juvenile diabetes.”
---more at link---

politics trumps science-- destructive practices of the Bush administration

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In another clear case of political interference in the science advisory appointment process, on February 27, 2004, the Bush administration dismissed Dr. Elizabeth Blackburn, a leading cell biologist, and Dr. William May, a prominent medical ethicist, from the President's Council on Bioethics… which is charged with advising the president on the ethical implications of advancements in biomedical research. Dr. Blackburn is best known as the co-discoverer of telomerase, an enzyme linked to cancer cell growth. This discovery launched a burgeoning cancer research field. Dr. Blackburn "is …one of the top biomedical researchers in the world." Dr. Blackburn believes she was dismissed because she disapproved of the Bush administration's restrictive position on stem cell research. …the dissenting opinion she submitted, which she believes reflects the scientific consensus in America [ed. note- it does], was not included in the council's reports even though she had been told the reports would represent the views of all the council's members.

The removal of Drs. Blackburn and May—and the subsequent appointment of new panel members who are supportive of the administration's stated positions, significantly limits the range of views now available to the president on bioethical issues. Dr. Blackburn …was one of only three full-time biomedical scientists on the panel, which, even prior to her dismissal, was weighted heavily to nonscientists with strong ideological views.

The administration has claimed that politics played no role in Dr. Blackburn’s dismissal, but some 170 researchers signed an open letter to President Bush protesting the decision. Dr. Janet Rowley, Distinguished Service Professor of Medicine and Molecular Genetics at the University of Chicago and current member of the Bioethics Council, has characterized Dr. Blackburn's dismissal as "an important example of the absolutely destructive practices of the Bush administration."

Among those expressing concerns about Dr. Blackburn's dismissal was the American Society for Cell Biology (ASCB), which represents 11,000 scientists worldwide. ASCB issued a public statement contending that Dr. Blackburn's dismissal reflected a pattern in the Bush administration in which politics trumps science.
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You know heart surgery was experiemental in 1930, opinions were we should not touch the heart. Blue babies just had to die, it was God's will.

Well, doctors, Denton Cooley and others prevailed and our babies now live and how many others are walking around after heart surgery instead of buying the dirt farm.

Doesn't God or whatever you want to believe in want humans to use their knowledge for the betterment of all mankind? Stem cells are not people yet, and if the ones being discarded can benefit alzheimer victims and paralyzed people and parkinson victims, etc. Why would anyone be against that?

Do we really want to go backward ?

WOW! This is amazing. The Revolution Has Begun! We have to stop the maddness. If the young republicans want to WIN this war they should ShutUp and SignUp NOW!

You guy will exploit anyones hardship for personal gain I see. Keep up the good work getting your message out.

#48 - Mr. Murder says re: Mr. Infidel - "Iraq had no connection to 9-11. People using 9-11 references talking about Iraq are deceptive and misleading."

Yes, and lots of other things, too, requiring colorful language. (Accessory to murder, to begin.) It can't be anything other than propaganda, can it? I mean doesn't everyone know that there is no connection? And that we didn't "smoke him out"? In fact, put our resources elsewhere?

It's propaganda of the worst kind. Nobody could be so dumb as to really believe it as an "argument" and still be able to type on a keyboard.

#5

Actually check your facts LJS Clinton permitted research on discarded fetal tissue from abortion clinics.

President Clinton also signed the Federal Stem Cell Research Bill before he left office.

Remember George W. Bush was for Stem Cell Research before he was against it.

Ask why the contractors are not funding vets to get back on their feet. After all it's them thats behind the war in the first place. Hope you recover sometime in the future

Let's see the Bush minions smear U.S. Army Specialist Tomas Young like they have everyone else who has stood up lately.

You have to understand the mentality of a silver spooner who was born in the lap of luxury and loved his whole life with 100s of millions in wealth and was given everything he ever wanted including the best private education at Yale and Harvard yet he tries to act like a commoner good ole boy Texan to con those who put him in office including daddys pals.
You also have to understand Bush also abused drugs and alcohol for 25 yrs so his brain damage may be kicking in and this the real problem as he obviously bought and used only the premium quality cocaine alcohol and pot and went AWOL as a deserter in the Texas Guard " in noble cause" fashion as daddy had his records fixed.
Think about it. Would you want Cheech or Chong as president even though they probably did less drigs and have less brain damage since they dint have the millions to buy the best stuff?
Bush truly looks retarded from the brain damage and alfred Newman is actually better looking.

As Tomas Young's mom I couldn't be prouder of him and his new bride for making the long trek to Crawford to speak up for what they believe in. As hard as this trip has been on everyone else you have no idea how it has been for them...
As my younger son prepares to deploy to Iraq in October I can't help but notice while watching the pro-war protests all of the young men standing holding banners about the "noble cause" that this war is. My sole question to all of them and to the 17 Bush grandchildren - Why are you not there??
I wish that I could have been with Tomas, Brie and
Cindy in Crawford but am looking forward to being with them in Washington when we take the fight to them!!!

Excellent!. Mr Bush cannot defend his position on stem cell research, and like EVERYTHING else he talks about, he lies...in this case about the facts of this medical breakthrough ...for his own, narrow and sick political cause.
This soldier and hero, is absolutelyu right to ask the quesition to Bush .....and deserves an answer from our "coward in chief"...who either hates science, is scared of it, doesnt understand it...and then uses it for his "political agenda to divide this nation..shame on you Mr. Bush..you are not a leader.
This issue is one that Bush should be hounded on.
Thank you Thomas Young for having the courage to ask a simple question of the president.

#61 Cathy- Tomas' mom

Thank you for joining us. I am so glad that we got to hear from Tomas via Brad. I hope you won't mind if I say we are proud of him too for speaking up.

Bush is willfully ignorant about so many things. His stance on stem cell research is a piece of pure villainy. Let's hope that saner minds prevail when this issue comes before the Senate.

And, thanks for keeping on about the question "why aren't your children serving in Iraq?" It's an important one.

VG

Too bad we can't put Bush in the same wheel chair.

#61 To Cathy,

My heart goes out to you, Tomas and Bree. Your