Blogged by Brad Friedman on 10/20/2005 7:02PM  
REPORT: 'Loss and Miscount of Votes in Recent Elections'!
House issues BI-PARTISAN Press Release: Report 'A Wake Up Call', 'Foundation of Democracy Rests Upon Security, Integrity of our Voting System'

"[C]oncerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes."

That's just one of the chilling revelations from the non-partisan Government Accountability Office's (GAO) 107-page report on the security of Election Voting Machines in America as just released moments ago. The report confirms many of the greatest concerns expressed by those who have called for Election Reform since the deeply flawed 2004 Presidential Election.

The report "analyzed over 80 recent and relevant reports related to the security and reliability of electronic voting systems." The results confirm a range of security vulnerabilities and violations in Electronic Voting Machines in recent elections and the accompanying systems used to administer elections in the United States of America. It goes on to say that the issues brought to the attention of the GAO by elected representatives, activists and other concerned citizens, "merit the focused attention of federal state and local authorities responsible for election administration."

The GAO report (download the complete report here [PDF]) was created in response to a request by several members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee.

A joint bi-partisan press release touting the findings of the report has just been issued by three Republican and three Democratic Congressmen including Government Reform Committee Chairman Tom Davis (R-VA) and Ranking Member Henry A. Waxman (D-CA), Judiciary Committee Chair F. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and Ranking Member John Conyers (D-MI), and Science Committee Chair Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY) and Ranking Member Bart Gordon (D-TN).

While The BRAD BLOG is still perusing the details of the extensive report, some of the key findings are listed right on the front page:

Examples of Voting System Problems and Vulnerabilities.

  • Cast ballots, ballot definition files, and audit logs could be modified.
  • Supervisor functions were protected with weak or easily-guessed passwords.
  • Systems had easily picked locks and power switches that were exposed and unprotected.
  • Local jurisdictions misconfigured their electronic voting systems, leading to election day problems.
  • Voting systems experienced operational failures during elections.
  • Vendors installed uncertified electronic voting systems.
  • Speaking about the GAO report in the joint press release, one congressman described it as "a wake up call."

    Republican Rep. Boehlert said, "I wholeheartedly endorse the GAO recommendations, which underscore the need for the Election Assistance Commission and the National Institute of Standards and Technology to continue their work to establish standards and testing procedures for voting equipment. This work must move ahead on an ambitious schedule."

    Democratic Rep. Gordon added, "The foundation of democracy rests upon the accuracy, integrity and security of our voting system"

    Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, a tireless champion for election reform and leading force behind the landmark report "Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio 2004", has just blogged about the report.

    He says the report "lends important credibility to the cause of election reform generally, and more specifically to requiring that every machine have a voter verified paper ballot that is used in election days audits and, if discrepancies are found in those audits, becomes the official record for the election."

    "Despite the many official assurances that the problems of the past elections were isolated and few," Conyers writes, "the election system is indeed riddled with problems and flaws."

    The "bottom line," says Conyers, is that until these matters are seriously addressed, and "significant security and controls" are put in place with our voting machines, "American citizens have no reason to have complete confidence in our democracy."

    Conyers further enumerates a list of notable and troubling security shorcomings identified by the GAO:

    1. Some electronic voting systems did not encrypt cast ballots or system audit logs, thus making it possible to alter them without detection.

    2. It is easy to alter a file defining how a ballot appears, making it possible for someone to vote for one candidate and actually be recorded as voting for an entirely different candidate.

    3. Falsifying election results without leaving any evidence of such an action by using altered memory cards.

    4. Access to the voting network was easily compromised because not all digital recording electronic voting systems (DREs) had supervisory functions password-protected, so access to one machine provided access to the whole network.

    5. Supervisory across to the voting network was also compromised by repeated use of the same user IDs combined with easily guessed passwords.

    6. The locks protecting access to the system were easily picked and keys were simple to copy.

    7. One DRE model was shown to have been networked in such a rudimentary fashion that a power failure on one machine would cause the entire network to fail.

    8. GAO identified further problems with the security protocols and background screening practices for vendor personnel.

    The complete joint bi-partisan press release, issued by six U.S. House of Representative members, follows...

    U.S. House of Representatives

    N E W S R E L E A S E

    For Immediate Release: October 21, 2005

    Davis, Waxman, Sensenbrenner, Conyers, Boehlert, and Gordon React
    To GAO Report on Security Problems With Electronic Voting Systems

    Washington, D.C. - Government Reform Committee Chairman Tom Davis (R-VA) and Ranking Member Henry A. Waxman (D-CA), Judiciary Committee Chair F. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and Ranking Member John Conyers (D-MI), and Science Committee Chair Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY) and Ranking Member Bart Gordon (D-TN), issued the following statements upon today's release of the Government Accountability Office's report, "Federal Efforts to Improve Security and Reliability of Electronic Voting Systems Are Under Way, but Key Activities Need to Be Completed" (GAO-05-956):

    "It is certainly disappointing that, despite the recommendations from federal organizations and non-governmental groups, many states still have not made progress to make sure their electronic voting systems are safe from fraud and can be relied on to accurately count votes," Chairman Davis said. "However, I am pleased that the EAC is continuing to push states to improve their voting systems and comply with the requirements of the Help Americans Vote Act (HAVA). American's voting system must be made to be world class, everywhere in the country, as soon as possible."

    "The GAO report indicates that we need to get serious and act quickly to improve the security of electronic voting machines," said Rep. Waxman. "The report makes clear that there is a lack of transparency and accountability in electronic voting systems - from the day that contracts are signed with manufacturers to the counting of electronic votes on Election Day. State and local officials are spending a great deal of money on machines without concrete proof that they are secure and reliable. American voters deserve better."

    Chairman Sensenbrenner said, "The Founders established the states as the entity primarily responsible for the administration of both federal and state elections. While Congress has provided direction through HAVA and federal grants to modernize state election systems, some states continue to drag their feet in preventing voting compilation errors and eliminating questionable voter registration and poll day procedures. In my home state of Wisconsin, the current Governor has done his best to block the legislature's efforts to implement voting reforms conforming with HAVA guidelines, despite evidence of widespread voter fraud in Milwaukee in recent elections. The EAC will have to push hard to overcome the resistance of those who rely on outmoded and unreliable voting practices to keep themselves in power."

    "I am shocked at the extent and nature of problems GAO has identified in our electronic voting systems, and I fear that this may just be the tip of the iceberg," said Rep. Conyers. "It is totally unacceptable that in 21st century American we would allow faulty machines and systems to rob citizens of their voting rights. While GAO offers some modest recommendations for improvement, it is incumbent upon Congress to respond to this problem and to enact much-needed reforms such as a voter verified paper audit trail that protects all Americans' right to vote."

    Chairman Boehlert said, "I wholeheartedly endorse the GAO recommendations, which underscore the need for the Election Assistance Commission and the National Institute of Standards and Technology to continue their work to establish standards and testing procedures for voting equipment. This work must move ahead on an ambitious schedule, and the Science Committee will continue to monitor its progress."

    "The foundation of democracy rests upon the accuracy, integrity and security of our voting system," Rep. Gordon said. "The Science Committee gave the National Institute of Standards and Technology a pivotal role to ensure that our voting systems are trustworthy. However - as the GAO report highlights - much remains to be done before the next election cycle. Their report is a wake-up call for adequate funding for NIST's activities and makes clear that closer oversight by Congress is warranted."

    Background / GAO Results Summary

    All levels of government share responsibility in the U.S. election process. At the federal level, Congress has authority under the Constitution to regulate presidential and congressional elections. The Help America Vote Act of 2002 increased the federal role in state and local elections, in part by giving states the resources to improve the accessibility, security, and reliability of their voting systems. Under HAVA, nearly $39 billion has been allocated to states to purchase electronic voting systems and improve the voting process.

    Voting System Vulnerabilities Identified by GAO:

    · Cast ballots, ballot definition files, memory cards, and audit logs could be modified.

    · Supervisor functions were protected with weak or easily guessed passwords, and memory cards that allowed individuals access to voting machines were inadequately protected.

    · Systems had easily picked locks and power switches that were exposed and unprotected.

    · Voting machine vendors had weak security practices, including the failure to conduct background checks on programmers and system developers, and the failure to establish clear chain of custody procedures for handling software.

    Voting System Failures Have Already Occurred During Elections

    In addition to identifying potential vulnerabilities, GAO identified a number of cases of operational failures in real elections. These examples included:

    · In California, a county presented voters with an incorrect electronic ballot, meaning they could not vote in certain races.

    · In Pennsylvania, a county made a ballot error on an electronic voting system that resulted in the county's undervote percentage reaching 80% in some precincts.

    · In North Carolina, electronic voting machines continued to accept votes after their memories were full, causing over 4,000 votes to be lost.

    · In Florida, a county reported that touch screens took up to an hour to activate and had to be activated sequentially, resulting in long delays.

    Problems With Implementation of Voluntary Standards, Testing, and Federal Efforts to Improve Voting System Security

    GAO reported that voluntary standards for electronic voting adopted in 2002 by the Federal Election Commission contain vague and incomplete security provisions, inadequate provisions for commercial products and networks, and inadequate documentation requirements. GAO also found that tests currently performed by independent testing authorities and state and local election officials do not adequately assess electronic voting system security and reliability

    The GAO report indicated that national initiatives to improve voting system security and reliability of electronic voting systems either lack specific plans for implementation or are not expected to be completed until after the 2006 election. According to GAO, "Until these efforts are completed, there is a risk that many state and local jurisdictions will rely on voting systems that were not developed, acquired, testing, operated, or managed in accordance with rigorous security and reliability standards - potentially affecting the reliability of future elections and voter confidence in the accuracy of the vote count"

    The Election Assistance Commission, which was created as part of the "Help American Vote Act" began operations in January 2004. To improve the security and reliability of electronic voting systems, GAO recommends that EAC establish tasks, processes, and time frames for improving the federal voluntary voting system standards, testing capabilities, and management support available to state and local election officials. EAC commissioners agreed with GAO recommendations and stated that actions on each are either under way or intended. The National Institute of Standards' (NIST) director also agreed with the report's conclusions.

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    READER COMMENTS ON
    "BREAKING: NON-PARTISAN GAO REPORT CONFIRMS CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY OF ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES!"
    (127 Responses so far...)

    COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
    ... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 10/20/2005 @ 7:25 pm PT...


    We still haven't heard from those trolls who told us they were enthusiastically buying Diebold stock "on the dip" when it was selling around $45.

    If they haven't bailed out by now, I'm afriad it might be too late given this news. Tsk tsk.


    COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
    ... TLV said on 10/20/2005 @ 7:25 pm PT...


    I have been woking my butt off to spread the word about the "backdoor" and have received only a trickle of responses from our legislators, election board, newpapers, etc.. Let's hope this investigation leads to real changes. Thanks for all you do to get the word out about the corruption and criminality in America today.


    COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
    ... colleenmilitarymom said on 10/20/2005 @ 7:27 pm PT...


    yaaayyyyy!!!!


    COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/20/2005 @ 8:57 pm PT...


    Oh very interesting....

    This may just force them to close Diebold down and start liquidating all the assets.....

    The "report" better not be a whitewash, and better talk about how insecure these machines are and how many times they've been hacked.

    Doug


    COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
    ... MarleenMmom said on 10/20/2005 @ 9:00 pm PT...


    Finally! What a great birthday week this has been!

    Now if we could just get someone in Congress to do something about it... NOW before Nov8.

    Thanks for all the hard work you do to keep this issue in the hot seat.


    COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
    ... jIMcIRILE said on 10/20/2005 @ 9:22 pm PT...


    Is it just me, or does it feel like we are making some serious traction here? Is it too much to think we've actually turned the corner and have the bad guys on the run?

    Paging President Gore...


    COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
    ... Jeff said on 10/20/2005 @ 10:05 pm PT...


    This is indeed good times...with [POTENTIAL FOR]


    COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
    ... Blue Shark said on 10/20/2005 @ 10:14 pm PT...


    When the Heck is Arnebeck's response to the Limp-Dick DNC Report that is now two months overdue expected?...Anybody?


    COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
    ... bb said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:41 am PT...


    Of course, September 11, now, thats completely different. We should trust everything they tell us about that.


    COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:06 am PT...


    We trust in NOTHING they say at all ever....A guy named Chertoff was in charge of the first 9-11 whitewash reports and documents.

    This is a non-partisan government subsidiary....time will tell.

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
    ... Floridiot said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:48 am PT...


    If this "non partisan" group says anything about "voter"
    fraud, it will be a waste of time, again to confuse the issue (hope their is no DLCers on the panel either)


    COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
    ... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:48 am PT...


    Yes, Jim. We've turned the corner. Bush is in the '30s in the polls, individual states are banning Diebold's machines, DeLay has been indicted and booked, White House insiders are turning state's evidence against Libby and Rove (and Bolton?), the media have finally figured out that Scottie-boy McClellan speaks with a forked tongue, and now, when the White House stages one of these phony Q&A sessions, the media focus isn't on the Qs&As, it's on the fact that the whole thing has been staged.

    In other words...the shit has hit the fan.


    COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
    ... Dredd said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:27 am PT...


    TLV #2 Keep up the good work.

    I trust you know about Velvet Revolution (link here) and Black Box Voting (link here).

    They would appreciate your energies too. Your work is paying off.


    COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
    ... Joan said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:58 am PT...


    Just a bit o.t...
    Has anyone watched the video of the talk by Lawrence Wilkerson: "A Secretive Cabal Running American Foreign Policy is Undermining American Democracy"?

    http://www.thewashington...com/archives/001018.html

    It's long but DEFINITELY worth watching.

    Wilkerson is Colin Powell's chief-of-staff (present? former?), and he says Powell is not too pleased with his speaking out. He praises Powell but says he felt an obligation to bring this out.

    When asked a question about the current state of U.S. dipomacy he said succinctly "It's broken", and added that an Egyptian friend of his explained it with the comment "Well, it's hard to sell shit".

    I highly recommend that people watch it.

    (Thanks, Human, for posting that earlier)


    COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 8:39 am PT...


    Joan #14

    Another critic of the war in Iraq - Robert Fisk - was being interviewed by Amy Goodman.

    Unfortunatly I caught just the very end. He was totaly blasting Bushco and the MSM for what is going on. Complained that the media no longer does their job, but rather conforms with and cuddles the ones they should be disecting.

    His closing statement was depressing. Amy asked him "What do you see that gives you hope?"

    Answer: "Nothing"


    COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
    ... TLV said on 10/21/2005 @ 9:28 am PT...


    Thanks, Dredd. Even though we had no problems in my county in Ohio because we had paper ballots, the election officials have paid no attention to the possible "backdoor" in the tabulator that we will now have to use to count our votes. At a demonstration of the Diebold machines that we have been forced to purchase, the rep from the election board stated they can't be hacked because they aren't attached to anything! I sent this woman two letters telling her it is the tabulator that can be hacked, not the voting machines. Did she mention this? Of course not. I don't think she has a clue what the word tabulate means! God - the frustration is too much sometimes, but I'm not giving up!


    COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
    ... Miss Persistent said on 10/21/2005 @ 9:54 am PT...


    OT, while waiting on the news...

    Wouldn't it be grand if the Meirs nomination was considered necessary so that W would have his personal attorney in the U.S. Supreme Court in case he...needs her personally?


    COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:42 am PT...


    Miss Persistent #17

    That may be EXACTLY the reason!


    COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:46 am PT...


    Brad,

    Once again you make the headlines at Raw Story with your report!

    Brad Blog Rocks!!!


    COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:48 am PT...


    OT but posting here since it is top story

    Fitzgerald Launches Web Site


    COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
    ... PetGoat said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:53 am PT...


    As a general rule, if a report comes out on Friday it's something
    the administration wants buried. By the time the MSM get around
    to writing about it on Monday the attitude is: It's old news so who
    cares?


    COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:08 am PT...


    PetGoat #21

    Ain't that the truth!


    COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
    ... hacked909 said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:09 am PT...


    One could but wonder how a Democracy might choose elected officials that represent only the greediest of Billionaires and gay hating evangelicals. "It is not who votes that counts - It is, rather, who counts the votes that matters.".

    Our country has been stolen by those now confronted by millions of pissed off voters. They should all be in prison and many on death rows. They brought 9-11 down on us along with their wars for profits.


    COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
    ... Lemmethink_not said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:12 am PT...


    TLV, don't give up, our elected usually reply with a dumbass form letter that is totally off point, one I recently got in re: to a complaint , Cramers office sends me a "thank you for your interest and support letter" duh......#12 Robert " In other words...the shit has hit the fan." I hope so


    COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:24 am PT...


    WOW!!!!! This report is amazing!!!!!!!!

    :O

    It's a SCATHING critique of our voting system, confirming that 2004 was likely stolen and past elections tampered with, that we can have zero confidence in results without full reforms!!!!

    Sensenbrenner, Conyers, Boheler, everyone signed this!!!!!

    There is hope yet!!!!! WE'VE FINALLY TURNED THE CORNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
    ... KestrelBrighteyes said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:28 am PT...


    To all the Republican trolls who said it was a conspiracy theory dreamed up by the left -

    I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO!!!

    Mainstream media has been taking a beating right and left lately, and they're getting tired of it. Somehow I don't think they're gonna let this one fall through the cracks.

    (Hey, I'm an optimist, so SUE ME! *L*)


    COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:11 pm PT...


    KestrelBrighteyes #26

    Where's Paul and Rick when you really need them?

    Oh what fun these days are. Happy Happy Joy Joy

    Plame plans to sue White House officials


    COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
    ... Catherine a said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT...


    Now to make sure the media covers this. It would be ironic if this GAO Report gets ignored due to news of indictments or Wilma coverage.

    We may need to be pro-active to ensure this gets the coverage it deserves. Maybe 6 or 7 of us can pass on this link.


    COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:43 pm PT...


    Notice Sensenbrenner's still harping on "evidence of widespread voter fraud in Milwaukee in recent elections."

    Is this true? I was under the impression there was very little evidence of 'voter' fraud in the 2004 s*election.


    COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
    ... MarkH said on 10/21/2005 @ 12:44 pm PT...


    Evening news broadcast: The GAO released a report on electronic voting machines today. Now, in other news...


    COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
    ... Genele said on 10/21/2005 @ 1:18 pm PT...


    Now we just need a Federal Investigator like Fitzgerald to investigate Diebold and it's connection to the Busheviks!


    COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:14 pm PT...


    Gonzales may be obstructing justice and attempting to squash the indictments, get on the ball and alert the entire media and people as quickly as possible!

    Criminal charges could be released with names redacted, as unknown conspirators for national "security" reasons

    Don't let it even pass the smell test, get out there people!!!

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:21 pm PT...


    COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:28 pm PT...


    Indictments may be released sealed with no names: ALERT the media!!!!

    David Corn reporting (not just Tom Henegan, Flocco, or Webb)

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:48 pm PT...


    Doug #32

    You lost me, I'm trying to see how you got from your link in that post to your staement about Gonzales?

    By the way they have a factual error in the story about LPG. They state it: "condenses to a liquid 1/600th the mass of its vapor form". That should be "volume" not "mass".


    COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 2:52 pm PT...


    Maybe Fitz doesn't want to give the spin-machine time to muddy the playground ???


    COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
    ... davek said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:02 pm PT...


    I am fast-forwarding here but maybe this is the beginning of the end of this dark era of electronic cheating, look what it led to with the Bush presidency and Repub majority. Think of the lives lost in Iraq, New Orleans, etc. If you are a parent, spouse or friend of one of those lost or forever altered, I can't imagine how you feel.


    COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
    ... davek said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:03 pm PT...


    I am fast-forwarding here but maybe this is the beginning of the end of this dark era of electronic cheating, look what it led to with the Bush presidency and Repub majority. Think of the lives lost in Iraq, New Orleans, etc. If you are a parent, spouse or friend of one of those lost or forever altered, I can't imagine how you feel.


    COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
    ... MIG said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:10 pm PT...


    COMMENT #23 [link]
    ...hacked909 said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:09am PT...

    Our country has been stolen by those now confronted by millions of pissed off voters. They should all be in prison and many on death rows. They brought 9-11 down on us along with their wars for profits.

    IS ANYONE ELSE IN AGREEMENT WITH HACKED 909'S CRAP THAT "they brought 9-11 down on us"???


    COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
    ... davek said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:12 pm PT...


    HEY STEVE F: I AM SO GLAD TO SEE (BY YOUR ABSENCE) THAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED ALL OF THIS EVIDENCE AND NOW CAN SEE THAT THESE GUYS REALLY ARE EVIL, ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN STOLEN, OUR ECONOMY HAS BEEN KICKED IN THE TEETH AND THE REPUBS HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY HONEST WITH YOU AND OTHER PARTY MEMBERS. STILL ROOM FOR A CONSERVATIVE SIDE TO THINGS, JUST HOPE ITS A MORE HONEST ONE IN THE FUTURE...HERE IS TO THE TRUTH!


    COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:19 pm PT...


    Mig --- yup. MIHOP or LIHOP --- not much diff.


    COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:24 pm PT...


    Kira, Davek, Bluebear2

    Gonzales attempted to squash indictments today.
    "The Gonzales story is coming from this source......say what you will about them, but if it is true this is deadly serious....."

    David Corn reports that the envelopes will be released names redacted.........you have all got to realize what this means, and spread the word.

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
    ... KEVIN SCHMIDT said on 10/21/2005 @ 3:25 pm PT...


    In the article it states, "A joint bi-partisan press release touting the findings of the report has just been issued by three Republican and three Democratic Congressmen."

    Really? Bi-partisan? That is ridiculous!

    If the Republicans are so concerned about fair voting, then why have they shot down every one of the dozens of election reform bills submitted by the Democrats since Bush stole the first election???

    Face the facts, the only way we are going to see meaningful election reform on a federal level is for the Democrats to take back the majority in both the Senate and the House.


    COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
    ... Foridiot said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:01 pm PT...


    Kira caught it,
    Nonsensenbrenner hitting on voter fraud again, what a shill, somebody ought to cut his tongue out,
    probably Wally Odells big bud


    COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:11 pm PT...


    Doug #42

    Thanks for the link.

    Tom Flocco Is also claiming exclusive on this story.

    There was indeed an incident regarding a report that there was a bomb in a car at the capital. The bomb squad blew up the package.

    What gets my eye, in the cloak and dagger report, is this part: "Gonzales swiftly disqualified himself refusing Bush's order to on the spot firing Patrick Fitzgerald."

    Sounds more like he saw a major conflict of interest and recused himself.

    The fact that he didn't try to fire Fitz seems to be a positive sign.

    Coming from Tom Flocco makes me wonder about the validity. He's been claiming to have the list of indicties since August.

    Nothing about this development at Raw Story or DU, both of wich should have picked up on it by now if it was legit.

    I guess I'll take it with a grain of salt for now.


    COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
    ... Floridiot said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:13 pm PT...


    OOPS,
    so pissed I couldn't spell my own handle right


    COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:20 pm PT...


    You know they are starting to wake up when this story even makes it to ZD-NET - a technology geek site.


    COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:25 pm PT...


    By the way - Welcome back Kira, good to see you back around the neighborhood.

    Or is that neighborblog?


    COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:40 pm PT...


    Well I guess we've strayed some from the general topic here, so I can't help myself - just one more:

    Whaaaaah Whaaaaaaaaaaah Mommyyyyyyy


    COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:40 pm PT...


    Not even RAWSTORY has former and current intelligence sources as a source.

    Tom Henegan (who gave the information to Flocco and someone else) reported that Gonzales attempted to obstruct justice. I would trust him given he's an FBI deputy.

    Gonzales has removed himself from the assault however if you follow all the lines, and David Corn's testimony. Gonzales may resign and just like the Saturday Night Massacre, Cheney will attempt to obstruct justice further as they turn against him..

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:42 pm PT...


    Doug,

    I will be watching for sure!


    COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:44 pm PT...


    Thanks Bluebear2 AND HAHAHA! GW looks like he's gonna lose his cookies any second! (Or is that pretzels?)


    COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
    ... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:47 pm PT...


    TLV has it right. "It's the tabulators, stupid."

    Individual voting machines can flip invidivual votes. And they did, almost exclusively in Bush's favor. Tabulators flip BLOCKS of votes, according to what's needed at crunch time. If too few individual votes have been flipped to decide the outcome (in the G.O.P.'s favor), then enough votes are flipped by a hacked tabultor to compensate.

    That didn't only happen in Ohio, it happened in Florida. And not only in 2004, but in 2000 also. Which is what we've been saying all along.


    COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:09 pm PT...


    Robert: And at last the government has admitted it......

    The silence is broken. We must ensure their empire falls and the NEOCONS are put into the COURT OF JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
    ... Catherine a said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:19 pm PT...


    Doug E #34

    David Corn says a reporter raised the possibility of sealed indictments. "He wasn't making a prediction; he was raising a possibility. "

    This seems like pure speculation.

    The other website (about the Gonzalez recusing himself from firing Fitzgerald) just doesn't look credible enough, and there's no external confirmation provided.

    Seems like a lot of rumours are flying around. I'll wait for the "real thing" rather than spending my time guessing. I wouldn't advise contacting the media based only on someone else's guesswork, with no sources.

    Much better would be to contact the media to ask them to do a story on the issues raised by the GAO report.


    COMMENT #56 [Permalink]
    ... Catherine a said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:25 pm PT...


    The Tom Flocco piece looks more credible.

    Maybe there is something to it after all.


    COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
    ... Catherine a said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:29 pm PT...


    The big irony is--even if Flocco is right, and all the top administration is indicted and arrested--we still need to sort out the election system problems if we want to have a future. History will repeat itself till enough people wise up.


    COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
    ... bluebear2 said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:54 pm PT...


    Catherine a #57

    So true.

    If they all get brought down as we wish - who takes over?

    What's the chain of command if the president and vice-president are both gone along with their party's top spokesman?

    Just wondering - any poli-sci folks out there?


    COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 5:57 pm PT...


    Trust me on this.....Gonzales has been removed.

    Cheney attempted to obstruct justice.....

    The neocons are pinned, angry, and cornered....

    Cheney's top officials have turned against him, and Bush if he kept the conspiracy running....

    Ariel Sharon is forcing the United States military to INVADE Syria.......all the while they are peeling away at the facade on Niger.

    The conspiracy is coming to a close.... The conspiracy with the Israeli Likuds and Iranians was real and is ending, Chalabi will be dragged before a court and everything is about to get alot hotter.......

    ONE WORD: Able Danger....

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
    ... Savantster said on 10/21/2005 @ 6:30 pm PT...


    So.. how does a nice little .. oh.. we'll call it the "realist party".. member run for President?


    COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:33 pm PT...


    Doug, this is an interesting take on indicting bush & co.

    Indictment Is Easy Way Out For Bush Officials

    Should Rove, Libby, Cheney and others be indicted in the CIA leak case it will be akin to slipping out the back door

    Steve Watson October 20 2005

    [snip] Should Bush Administration Officials be indicted and forced to resign over the Plame case in the coming weeks, the left will undoubtedly declare a major victory for justice and truth. We say that should this happen the truth will consequently be buried and injustice will once again prevail.

    To see the likes of Rove and Cheney skulking off back into the undergrowth, undoubtedly with massive paychecks will be no victory for the truth movement at all. These men should be held up to account for multiple illegal corporate wranglings, for high treason for the Coup de Tat on 9/11 and for crimes against humanity due to their involvement in the illegal and unjust war in Iraq.

    Allowing them to get away with simple perjury over the Plame leak case will allow them to return back to what they know best, how to influence Government policy and advance the elite agenda whilst NOT in power. And Whilst many will wait around the front so to speak, cheering and celebrating this "victory", Rove et al will simply sneak out of the back door. [snip]


    COMMENT #62 [Permalink]
    ... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 10/21/2005 @ 10:25 pm PT...


    He doesn't understand our system. Indictment means more than resignation, it means jeopardy before the bar of justice for each individual. It can mean fines, and disbarment for lawyer-politicians (as it did for Clinton).

    A plea bargain might keep a Rove or a Libby out of jail, but that doesn't mean he'd retain power; the source of Rove's power, and Libby's, is the Bush administration, which will have been weakened drastically. Assuming Democrats take control of Congress in 2006 (it will be harder for the G.O.P. to steal an election with Rove gone), then the administration will be further marginalized.

    To assume Rove and Libby could resign and remain as eminence grises for Bush is cynical and misguided.


    COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
    ... Doug Eldritch said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:11 pm PT...


    Kira: That is incorrect...

    Especially if a sitting president....ends up indicted.....

    As soon as the explosion begins, not only will they be forced to resign but to defend themselves.

    This is not just a "slip out the back door". Able-Danger is the other shoe waiting to drop which will finish off the rest of them.

    There's literally nowhere to hide now, they are surrounded, the american people are aware of their treason and nothing is secret anymore......they either kill themselves or submit to the rule of law.

    Able-Danger was covered up by them the whole time.....Michael Chertoff & Douglas Feith squashed the Able reports and funneled the blame onto "muslims". Several congressman are aware of it now including Curt Weldon.....

    It can't be hidden anymore...Congress was bought by AIPAC, everyone knows.......They will be forced to do their jobs. If not, they will face insurrection and the downfall of government from their last incompetence.

    Doug E.


    COMMENT #64 [Permalink]
    ... Kira said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:45 pm PT...


    I hope you guys are right. I've lost so much faith in our legal system --- starting with the awarding of the Presidency to gw bush in 2000 by the Supremes.

    When Nixon resigned, did we taxpayers no longer pay him a salary?


    COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
    ... m3 said on 10/21/2005 @ 11:54 pm PT...


    OT... Just posting this becuase I know we're all sick of seeing how little gets mentioned of the PNAC.

    Dan Froomkin, in the Washington Post, highlighted Cheney's motive for a cabal to influence foreign policy... linking to the Project for the New American Century's statements, etc.

    Washington Post Article


    COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
    ... Catherine a said on 10/22/2005 @ 5:03 am PT...


    BevHarris #66

    Is there any way citizens could take a class action lawsuit against an elected official?

    Is the ballot box the ONLY way to get at elected officials who abuse the public trust?


    COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
    ... big dan said on 10/22/2005 @ 5:18 am PT...


    Is that "THE" Bev Harris posting above me? What an honor!

    Jeff: The sinsister laugh is spelled, "Moo Hoo Ha Ha Ha Ha"

    Where is Steve F??? Won't you join us in insuring fair elections for all? That's what we're after. Whoever gets the most votes, wins...be it Republican or Democrat or 3rd party...

    Bev, I go on your site a lot, but have a different userid.

    Great work, everybody. Is this on TV??? Probably not. I keep saying, the next big story is Raw Story or Brad Blog exposing exactly who is suppressing important news on TV, and naming names!!! If this isn't extensively covered on TV, that is so f***ing HUGE as proof of the MSM not having America's interest, and being "controlled".


    COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
    ... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 10/22/2005 @ 5:21 am PT...


    My congressman, Chris Shays, e-mailed me to the effect that he wouldn't vote for an election reform bill (though he believes in paper receipts) because IT WAS MOTIVATED BY