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BLOGGED BY Brad Friedman ON 3/3/2006 6:51PM  
Offers New 'Recommendations and Guidelines' for Election Directors in Light of Recent Diebold Voting Machine Hack
Friday 4pm Memorandum Release Fails to Mention Diebold or Recent Leon County, FL Election Hack

Picking up in the tradition of California's Sec. of State Bruce McPherson, who seems to have a fondness for Friday night releases of important information which he hopes nobody will notice, Florida's Division of Elections Director, Dawn K. Roberts, issued a "Technical Advisory" memorandum calling for "enhancements to voting system security procedures that each supervisor of elections must address immediately." The memo was issued late this evening at the end of the work week.

Roberts' memo (posted in full below) would be the first official acknowledgment, to our awareness, by the state of Florida of the security concerns raised by the recent Leon County, FL "hack test" conducted by Election Supervisor Ion Sancho. That now-infamous test --- in which computer security professional Harri Hursti had managed to access and change information on the Diebold optical-scan voting machine memory cards --- resulted in the results of the test election being completely flipped, without a trace being left behind.

In her "Technical Advisory", Roberts fails to mention that "hack test" or the equipment it occurred on --- or even Diebold themselves --- by name. Rather, the alert alludes to McPherson's recent --- and stunning --- "conditional re-certification" of Diebold voting equipment in the state, in light of confirmation of the newly discovered "interpreted code" used by the machines. That type of software source code is specifically banned by the federal Help America Vote Act guidelines. During his re-certification of Diebold --- after the company's equipment had previously been de-certified in the state for use of illegal software patches, and subsequently found to have failed atleast 20% of the time in a massive test held last summer --- McPherson mandated specific security procedures to be used with Diebold equipment in the state of California.

"This technical advisory therefore applies to all voting systems deployed in Florida," writes Roberts in the memo issued this evening...

While Roberts' advisory falls short of McPherson's ostensible mandates, she issues "Recommendations and Guidelines" that she hopes Election Supervisors around the state might consider implementing. Her suggested "enhanced security safeguards," are similar to McPherson's conditions for improved "chain-of-custody" for the memory cards used both in Diebold's touch-screen and optical scan voting systems.

Her warning to state elections officials reads "The Florida Division of Elections believes that potential system vulnerabilities identified [by McPherson's independently commissioned analysis] can be addressed through enhanced security safeguards." As The BRAD BLOG was recently informed by Sancho, Florida has failed to conduct its own security analysis of the problem as revealed by Sancho's test in the state's capital of Tallahassee last December.

McPherson's analysis, confirming at least 16 different security flaws and bugs in both Diebold's touch-screen and optical-scan voting systems is here [PDF].

Roberts' guidelines to thwart hypothetical "threat model[s] that consists of a 'knowledge based' attack" such as one from an election division insider, attempt to highten security by recommending that "two or more individuals" are to be present at all times "whenever a transfer of custody" of election media, such as memory cards, takes place.

The "minimum criteria" guidelines recommend that Supervisors of Election "have in place a recovery plan that is to be followed should there be any indication of a security breach in the accountability and chain of custody procedures." Roberts offers no such advise for any such "recovery plan."

As well, it's pointed out several times in the document, that "any indication of a security breach must be confirmed by more than one individual." Apparently a single whistleblower won't do, if we understand those passages correctly.

In a related bit of news, we were recently told by Sancho, during an on-air interview we conducted with him last Tuesday on The Young Turks radio program, that Florida state election law disallows the manual hand recounting, or auditing, of machine-counted ballots.

In the case of the Leon County hack, we learned, the actual paper ballots used in the mock election --- had they been examined by hand --- would have revealed the correct election results instead of the flipped results as reported by Diebold's optical scan counter.

However, since Florida law specifically disallows ballots which have already been counted by machine to be hand-counted or even audited, the true election results would never have been known. Even in the case of a recount --- which would not have occurred in the case of the mock election test, since the flipped results were nowhere near close enough to have triggered a mandatory recount --- such ballots could only be rescanned by the machines which has miscounted them in the first place.

That point of Florida law was also confirmed to us, during another radio interview on Thursday, by Duvall County Election Supervisor, Jerry Holland who is, nonetheless --- and unlike Sancho --- a supporter of the Diebold optical-scan voting machines.

UPDATE: AP picks up the story (hat tip to John Gideon) and adds that Sancho has been sent "a letter threatening legal action" by the State Division of Elections. A fine thanks for helping the state discover that their elections could be stolen by a single malicious individual. Ah, Florida...

UPDATE 2: BBV has more on this, including the threat letter to Sancho who is ready to fight. "We will be talking to our lawyers over the weekend," Sancho said. "Somebody is going to pay for it."

The complete "Technical Advisory" memorandum issued late this evening by Florida's Division of Elections Director, Dawn K. Roberts, follows in full... [a WORD version may be downloaed here]

TO:                  Supervisors of Elections

FROM :           Dawn K. Roberts, Director

DATE:             March 3, 2006

SUBJECT:      Technical Advisory

Purpose:

This advisory concerns enhancements to voting system security procedures that each supervisor of elections must address immediately.  Provided within this technical advisory are guidelines that clarify the requirements for meeting the minimum security standards of 1S-2.015 (5)(g), (k) and (n).

Background and Scope:

Florida's voting systems standards and certification program are recognized as the most stringent in the nation.  Supplementing this rigorous certification process are the detailed security procedures that each county supervisor of elections must establish and follow.  Indeed, the success of a certified voting system is largely dependant upon the security employed.

As a matter of practice, Florida's voting systems standards and certification program are reviewed by the Division's Bureau of Voting Systems Certification on a continuous basis.  The Bureau recognizes that as technology evolves so must our security procedures surrounding the operations of our voting systems. As we identify new procedures and guidelines that are necessary, it is paramount that county Supervisors amend their security procedures.

In addition to the Division's ongoing internal examination of security procedures, we have recently reviewed the State of California's Voting Systems Technology Assessment Advisory Board's (VSTAAB) Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuBasic Interpreter and Ciber Laboratory's Source Code Review and Functional Testing reports. The Florida Division of Elections believes that potential system vulnerabilities identified in these reports can be addressed through enhanced security safeguards.  In general, these recommendations are applicable to all types of election media including compact flashes, PCMCIA cards, memory packs, PEBs, and paper ballots.  This technical advisory therefore applies to all voting systems deployed in Florida.

Note that the use of the word "procedure" within the context of this technical advisory means a macroscopic description of a process that defines the duties, responsibilities, and activities of an individual or a group of individuals.  While explicit step-by-step task specific work instructions necessary for implementation are not required to be included in your revised security procedures when submitted to the Division of Elections for approval, such instructions must be incorporated into your county's overall security plan to ensure the highest level of system protection.

Recommendations and Guidelines

Pre-election Steps for Voting Systems:
Threat model and mitigating strategy:

When developing a security procedure, one should determine the key elements within a system and develop threat models against those elements.  For example, consider a threat model that consists of a "knowledge based" attack focused on a scanner memory card or any other type of election media. This "knowledge based" attack assumes that the security perimeter surrounding this media can be breached to allow unfettered access or that an internal party utilizes their position of responsibility to gain such access to the media.  The mitigating strategy to defend against such an intrusion includes one or more security layers focused on election media accountability and chain of custody.  Therefore, the following guidelines serve as the minimum criteria for evaluating compliance to this security procedure element as it relates to electronic media. 

1)                  Regardless of electronic media type (memory packs, compact flash cards, PC Cards [aka PCMCIA cards], PEBs, voter card encoders, supervisor cards, and key cards), all such media shall be permanently identified with a unique identification (e.g., serial number).

a.       The supervisor of elections shall create and maintain an inventory of all electronic media.

b.      The supervisor of elections shall create a process and maintain a procedure for tracking the custody of electronic media from their storage location, through election coding, through the election process, to their final post-election disposition and return to storage.  This electronic media must be given the same level of attention that one would give to official ballots.

c.       The chain of custody must utilize two or more individuals to perform a check and verification check whenever a transfer of custody takes place.

2)                  The supervisor of elections shall create and maintain a secured location for storing the electronic media when not in use, for coding an election, for creating the election media, for transferring and installing the election media into the voting device, and for storing these devices once the election parameters are loaded.

a.       No election media shall be left unattended or in an unsecured location once it has been coded for an election.

                                                              i.      Where applicable, coded election media must be immediately loaded into the relevant voting device, logged, and made secure or must be placed in a secured and controlled environment and inventoried.

b.      For each election, the supervisor of elections shall seal each election media in its relevant voting device or container utilizing one or more uniquely identified tamper-resistant or tamper-evident seals.

                                                              i.      A combined master identification of the voting device, the election media, and the seal(s) must be created and maintained.

                                                            ii.      For election media that are device independent (e.g., PEBs, voter card encoders) these devices should be stored in a secured, sealed container and must also be identified on a master log.

c.       The supervisor of elections shall create a process and maintain a procedure for tracking the custody of these voting devices once these devices are loaded with an election definition.  These voting devices must be given the same level of attention that one would give to official ballots.

d.      The chain of custody must utilize two or more individuals to perform a check and verification check whenever a transfer of custody takes place.

3)                  The supervisor of elections shall have in place a recovery plan that is to be followed should there be any indication of a security breach in the accountability and chain of custody procedures.  Any indication of a security breach must be confirmed by more than one individual.

4)                  The supervisor of elections shall have a training plan for relevant election officials, staff, and temporary workers that address these security procedures and the relevant work instructions.

Transport of Ballots and/or Election Materials:
Threat model and Mitigation Strategy:

Consider a threat where a malicious entity wishes to gain access to a memory card or any type of election media.  This could occur at any time prior to opening the polls and with the election media in any state (i.e., pre-election, set for election, or post-election.)  The mitigating strategy to defend against such an invasion includes one or more security layers that again focus on accountability and chain of custody.  Therefore, the following guidelines serve as the minimum criteria for evaluating compliance to this security procedure element.

1)                  The supervisor of elections shall create and maintain a secured location for storing and transporting voting devices once the election parameters are loaded.  This shall include procedures that are to be used at locations outside the direct control of the supervisor of elections, such as overnight storage at a polling location.

a.       For each election, the supervisor of elections shall create and maintain an inventory of these items for each storage location.  These voting devices must be given the same level of attention that one would give to official ballots.

b.      The chain of custody must utilize two or more individuals to perform a check and verification check whenever a transfer of custody takes place or where the voting devices have been left unattended for any length of time.  Particular attention must be given to the integrity of the tamper-resistant or tamper-evident seals.

2)                  The supervisor of elections shall have in place a recovery plan that is to be followed should there be any indication of a security breach in the accountability and chain of custody procedures.  The plan must also address inadvertent damage to any seals or accountability/chain of custody documentation errors.  These plans must be developed in a manner that enhances public confidence in the security and integrity of the election.  Any indication of a security breach, documentation errors, or seal damage must be confirmed by more than one individual.

3)                  The supervisor of elections shall have a training plan for relevant election officials, staff, and temporary workers that address these security procedures and the relevant work instructions.

Election Access to Voting Systems:
Threat model and Mitigation Strategy:

Consider a threat model to optical scanners, DRE touchscreens, central count scanners, and the election management system; the success of which relies on a known vulnerability in an election department's security protocols.  Under this condition, perimeter security may be compromised where access to the voting system relies on default passwords and encryption keys or where such items are not changed frequently.  The obvious mitigating strategy to defend against such an intrusion includes immediately changing the default passwords and encryption keys and to develop a plan and process for changing the access control built on some time-based or event-based characteristic.  Therefore, the following guidelines serve as the minimum criteria for evaluating compliance to this security procedure element.

1)                  The supervisor of elections shall have a procedure that ensures that default or vendor supplied passwords, encryption keys, etc. have been changed.

a.       The supervisor of elections must maintain these access control keys/passwords in a secured and controlled environment.  Who has access to these items must be delineated in the relevant position descriptions.

b.      Changes to the encryption keys and passwords are at the discretion of the supervisor of elections, but it is advisable that this discretionary authority should not be delegated.  However, the individual(s) that implement the change must have this "authorization to change" responsibility delineated within their position description(s).  (Note the distinction relative to describing who can authorize a change, who implements a change, and who has access but cannot change the passwords and encryption keys.)

c.       Where appropriate, the degree of access should be defined within each relevant position description and maintained at that level within the election management system and/or equipment.  This applies where a voting system can limit an individual's access to certain menus, software modules, etc.

2)                  Access to any device, election media, or election management system that requires the use of an encryption key must be witnessed by one or more individuals authorized to use such information.

a.       An access log should be developed and utilized.

3)                  The supervisor of elections shall have a training plan for relevant election officials, staff, and temporary workers that address these security procedures and the relevant work instructions.

Specific Authority: 101.015 F.S.
Rule: 1S-2.015 (5)(g),  1S-2.015 (5)(k), and 1S-2.015 (5)(n)

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READER COMMENTS ON
"Florida Issues 'Technical Advisory' for 'Security Enhancements' on 'All Voting Systems' in State!"
(164 Responses so far...)

COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
... WALLY O'DIEBOLD said on 3/3/2006 @ 8:53 pm PT...


ed note: CAUTION - The following thread, dominated by the anonymous poster calling himself "Wally O'Diebold", is --- not surprisingly --- filled with all manners of disinformation and other deceitful nonsense. Nonetheless, it's useful to have Mr. O'Diebold on the record here, even if his comments violate many of our rules against disinfo, misinfo, and sliming other commenters. For now, we are making an exception, and allowing his comments to stay. For now. So proceed with caution and keep in mind he is able to tell you anything from behind his cloak of public anonymity without any accountability. For now. Therefore, take all of it with the exceedingly large grain of salt it deserves.
-- BF

Dear Brad,

Repeating a bunch of misinformation doesn't make it true.

1. Interpreted code is not specifically banned by federal HAVA guidelines. HAVA makes no mention of interpreted code whatsoever. The relevant standards are the FEC standards, and they don't disallow the use of interpreted code either, except where specific other listed conditions also apply.

2. Diebold's equipment was not de-certified in California for use of illegal software patches. All DREs from all vendors were de-certified in California. Most were later re-certified except for the specific case of the Diebold AccuVote-TSx, for which it was ruled that as new equipment the TSx would require addition of a voter-verified paper audit trail (VVPAT) prior to re-certification. The VVPAT requirement actually applies to all new DRE equipment in that state. The first times you made that claim it was ignorance. Now you're just being deceptive.

3. The 20% failure rate in the California volume test that you love to quote so much is a matter of subjective opinion: around 20 incidents were recorded in a test of 10,000 ballots cast, and no votes were mis-recorded or lost in the test. But that's fine, I'll give you the 20 percent. The truth that you conveniently leave out is that two small issues were identified and corrected as a result of the test and a subsequent re-test of the system resulted in a 100% success rate. And for what it's worth, the results of similar volume tests published last week for equipment by Sequoia, Hart-Intercivic and ES&S had much higher failure rates than the 20% you like to toss around: try upwards of 40% for the Hart system, and 60% for the ES&S system. So based on the volume tests you're so fond of referring-to, Diebold's equipment has the lowest error rate of the ones tested to date --- by far. Not that it means much, because the method you're using to calculate "20%" (or 40% or 60%) is bogus anyway. By that method, you could do a test of a single machine and successfully cast 1,000,000,000 ballots on it: but if there's a paper jam on the billionth-and-one ballot you'd conclude there's a 100% failure rate. Whatever.

I get that you don't like Diebold or their equipment. An intelligent and informed person could even make a credible argument against either (although an equally intelligent person could also make a credible counter-argument). But repeating the same bunch of deceptive bullshit to the same handful of true believers over and over again here is just weak. Hey, what do I care? It's your blog and your reputation.

Here's hoping the Los Angeles DA comes to his senses and goes after big Jim March next! :D

Your pal,
Wally


COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
... Bev Harris said on 3/3/2006 @ 9:00 pm PT...


Whoo-ey you're fast, Brad! You beat us to the punch.

Your story contains many valuable insights. I have linked it and recommended it at the end of our story on this. I hope people spread both stories far and wide.

We have published a letter from Jeb Bush and his crony, Sue Cobb, basically trying to finesse Ion Sancho out of a job.

In addition, we've identified some of the key flaws in the BUSINESS MODEL which allows a limited pool of vendors to blackball a government official.

The Florida advisory vindicates Ion Sancho --- but, ironically, just as this went out he got his threat letter from Jeb.

Spread the word, folks. People of courage are standing up, and are drawing blood, and the latest maneuver is to punish them.

Ion Sancho is being punished.
Steven Heller is being punished.
Lynn Landes is being punished.

If we do not stand together, who will be next?


COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
... Bev Harris said on 3/3/2006 @ 9:07 pm PT...


woops, forgot the link:

http://www.bbvforums.org...messages/1954/19494.html

And as for Wally O'Diebold:

"Interpreted code is not specifically banned by federal HAVA guidelines. HAVA makes no mention of interpreted code "

Yes, it is the FEC guidelines and yes, they do ban interpreted code in the manner in which it is used in the Diebold optical scan machines.

"2. Diebold's equipment was not de-certified in California for use of illegal software patches. "

It was decertified because Diebold repeatedly lied to the secretary of state, about illegal software patches and other things. It's a pattern with Diebold, this business of lying to secretaries of state. And a pattern of corrupt business practices is called... go ahead Wally, you fill in the blanks.

"Here's hoping the Los Angeles DA comes to his senses and goes after big Jim March next! :D "

Well first there would have to be a crime, or in the case of L.A., a whistleblower to attack in order to get the focus off the real criminals. But okay.

Your pal,
Bev


COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
... WALLY O'DIEBOLD said on 3/3/2006 @ 9:31 pm PT...


Dear Bev,

Clearly you misunderstand the FEC guidelines. If interpreted code as it is used in the Diebold machines is forbidden as you suggest, then why has it been repeatedly OKed by federal testing authorities and the NASED committee that issues the certifications? A report from the testing authorities issued just last week - a report, mind you, specifically about the alleged forbidden code - conspicuously fails to disallow it. The obvious conclusion: your interpretation of the FEC standards is different from the interpretation of the people whose job it is to interpret it. And I know you're not technical so I'll explain it here in layman's terms: tough shit for you.

And no, Diebold's machines were not decertified due to illegal software patches. I know that's the story you like to put out there, but it's unadulterated bullshit. All the DREs from all the vendors were decertified at the same time, and none were decertified for "illegal software patches". I assume that Brad's just misinformed on the subject so I'm content to post the correction but otherwise give him a pass. You on the other hand, know better: when you misrepresent what happened, you're just lying.

Theft is a crime, Bev... hence the pickle Heller's got himself into. Maybe you shouldn't have burned your source if you were that worried about his welfare. He's not a whisteblower if he didn't blow any whistle - which he reportedly didn't (and couldn't have, since the stolen material was pretty innocuous if you actually read it). He gave the stolen documents to Jim, who knew they were stolen, and receiving stolen property is also a crime. Of course the DA's not going to go after ol' Jimmy, but the thought does make one kind of giggle.

Too bad you and Jim threw Steve under a bus by outing him and then bragging that he gave Jim (who later gave them to your pal Ian) the stolen goods. I know you've since tried to modify that perception, but unfortunately for Steve, Jim's original story's still out there. Along with your own comments clearly stating that his materials weren't even used in the only "whistleblower" action that's even halfway relevant - which leaves Heller as nothing more than a thief.

Academically yours,
Wally


COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
... Bev Harris said on 3/3/2006 @ 9:51 pm PT...


Wally:

"If interpreted code as it is used in the Diebold machines is forbidden as you suggest, then why has it been repeatedly OKed by federal testing authorities and the NASED committee that issues the certifications?"

Yeah there's the million dollar question. Or is that just the amount of the bribes that got passed around?

"A report from the testing authorities issued just last week - a report, mind you, specifically about the alleged forbidden code - conspicuously fails to disallow it. "

Yeah. And did anyone notice they sent the code TO THE WRONG ITA? Ciber labs tests software --- ie. GEMS, and Wyle labs tests firmware. That is what they are designated to do and allowed to do. In fact, Wyle labs did the original testing where they missed a security defect the size of British Columbia. So why was this latest whitewash report done by Ciber? It's the wrong lab. Find me any reference anywhere that has Ciber doing the ITA testing for firmware. And by the way, I've interviewed Shawn Southworth in person. His credentials are insufficient for this. He even admits that.

"the interpretation of the people whose job it is to interpret it. "

Yes well. These are the people who'd certify a pocket calculator jammed halfway into a banana if you pay them enough [hat tip to Jim March for that analogy], so I'm not impressed with their interpretation.

"And no, Diebold's machines were not decertified due to illegal software patches. "

Read the report. Oh yeah, that's right, the current S.O.S. pulled it off the Web. If Jim March wanders through here, maybe he'll publish a link to a version he saved.

" Theft is a crime, Bev... hence the pickle Heller's got himself into."

Racketeering is a crime too. Oh, and the documents Heller was looking at because he was ordered to look at them --- they were documents where Diebold's own lawyers were planning to lie to the secretary of state --- then actually lied --- then thousands of voters were unable to vote because of the lie. The documents show that Diebold was told that what they were doing was a crime, and showed a budget being prepared for Diebold's criminal defense, and Diebold went ahead and committed fraud anyway.

Steven Heller is a whistleblower. Diebold is the one committing the crimes.


COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
... Doug Eldritch said on 3/3/2006 @ 10:15 pm PT...


Wally,

Please just shut your mouth and give it a rest. I've already proven every one of your points wrong.

No, Wyle labs didn't even look at it. They test software, not firmware that is what Ciber tests.

I have evidence now Wally that your friends including Urosovich wired money in for some shennanigans....you better hope you have more than a court order.

When we're done, Diebold will so far under you will have to administer CPR. And the federal labs who tested it, were bought & paid by Diebold so really the entire process needs to be reviewed as everyone is aware of how insecure Diebold is.

Doug E.


COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
... WALLY O'DIEBOLD said on 3/3/2006 @ 10:17 pm PT...


Bribes? Interesting theory. I trust you have some proof before you go throwing around something like that.

Here's a thought: if certification were as simple as paying off the right person, why do you suppose there are uncertified versions of anything, ever? Why is Sequoia still trying to get a federal certification for its equipment after two years? Why did it take Diebold over a year for the TSx? Why did it take ES&S most of last summer and fall to get it for their AutoMark device? You'd think it would have been easier for all of these companies to simply cut someone a check. As per usual, your bullshit conspiracy theories hold no water.

As for your assertion that they sent the thing to the wrong ITA, that's just nonsense. Voting machine firmware is typically tested for FEC compliance at Wyle Laboratories: in that statement, at least, you are correct. Of course, the recent review by Ciber was not for federal certification purposes - all of the equipment in question was already, and remains today, federally certified. California secretary of state Bruce McPherson asked (specifically) for Ciber labs to perform an additional security audit of one part of the system about which concerns had been raised. Despite how you've spun that on your web site, it has nothing whatsoever to do with federal qualification status and it never brought the federal qualification status of the system into question (you should probably apologize to people for misleading people about that and duplicitously getting their hopes up). Why SoS McPherson asked Ciber to do the review is something you'd have to ask him. Maybe he wanted another set of eyes to look at it, since Wyle Labs already had. Maybe that's the reason he also asked his own VSTAAB to look at it as well. By all available evidence, the man seems extremely diligent to me. Of course, from your perspective it probably just adds one more layer to the conspiracy.

As a side note, I do find it interesting that the list of people who've reviewed this allegedly "secret source code" is literally growing with every passing week. Funny.

It's fascinating that you personally don't agree with the interpretation of the FEC standards by the certification labs and the NASED committee. Unfortunately it's not especially relevant. I'm pretty sure that nobody at either level really gives a rat's ass what Bev Harris' personal interpretation of the standard is. And quite frankly, there's no reason why they should since you clearly don't even understand it.

Jim's calculator in a banana analogy is stupid, but then again I expect no less from a self-professed network administrator who couldn't understand that 192.168.0.2 isn't an address on the internet. Possibly his finest moment ever, and a testament to the technical prowess of the BBV crew as a whole.

You're lying about what the stolen documents say. It's not worth debating further, we can agree to disagree since the audience in this particular venue is just going to believe you without ever reading them anyway. But we both know the truth, and that's good enough for me. And at least we agree that the documents were stolen, which is of course the relevant point.

Diebold's not committing any crimes, you just made that up. And honestly it's a bit hard to take, considering the source.

Best,
Wally


COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
... WALLY O'DIEBOLD said on 3/3/2006 @ 10:29 pm PT...


DOUG ELDRITCH #6

Dear Doug,

1. You've "proven" nothing of the sort.

2. You're 100% wrong. Wyle Labs tests firmware and hardware, and Ciber labs tests software. As such Wyle Labs has already reviewed the firmware, and now it's been reviewed by Ciber as well at the specific request of the California secretary of state.

3. Shenanigans? Do tell. I look forward to the story. And I totally mean that, because you make me laugh.

Your BFF,
Wally


COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
... Bev Harris said on 3/3/2006 @ 10:57 pm PT...


>"You're lying about what the stolen documents say. "

If you've read them all, you're either Diebold or Jones Day. That means you either haven't seen them all or you are one of their damage control guys and you're trying to minimize their importance while you blame the whistleblower.

It's really pretty inexplicable, isn't it? Testing labs that recommend, over and over again systems that a chimpanzee can hack. I could teach a pigeon to delete entries in GEMS --- can you possibly explain how Ciber kept recommending GEMS over and over? No one, NO ONE says GEMS is secure.

So why'd they recommend it? And how can anyone take Ciber, or Wyle, or Steve Freeman, or Paul Craft, or any of these clowns seriously when they overlook this stuff over and over?

Now, as for the interpreter: Whatever you want to claim about the "right" interpretation of an interpreter, the reason it was an issue in the first place is that it is a security risk.

When we blew through the security to hack the system in Leon County, the issue with AccuBasic and the function of the interpreter during the election showed that these issues are all too real. You can steal an election with this stuff.

If I don't have any technical prowess, how come I can change the GEMS password of any elections official in America? Because you're right, I don't have any technical prowess. Those of us without technical prowess are particularly shocked when we can defeat the system in 60 seconds or less.

How can anyone defend an ITA that consistently recommends such systems?


COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
... Steve said on 3/3/2006 @ 11:12 pm PT...


Wow Brad!

It's obvious you've really gotten under the skin of the Diebold crooks. They've sent a professional troll to try and obfuscate all the issues and he/she/it is such an arrogant a__hole that anyone reading this jerk's comments will immediately be even more doubtful about the integrity of this company and what this hyperaggressive and defensive troll has to say.

Keep it up Wally! You're great comic relief.


COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
... Doug Eldritch said on 3/3/2006 @ 11:14 pm PT...


"Why did it take Diebold over a year for the TSx?"

You silly fool they own the ITA company, DID YOU KNOW 100% OF THE MONEY FOR CIBER COMES FROM DIEBOLD? Why do you think the TSX escaped every major testing authority and had backdoors? Was that just an "accident" to steal elections wherever Diebold wants, and to pay whoever it wants to get "selected"?

I'm all over your NEOCON GAME asshole, and I have proof..

It won't be you who is laughing once I'm through Wally, WE will have the last laugh in court.

Howard Ahmanson is so proud of his little operation isn't he, aka Diebold? You neocons are all pathetic, and you're going down as the worst bunch of losers history ever wrought......

>:-D

Doug E.


COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
... agent99 said on 3/4/2006 @ 1:14 am PT...


Hear, hear, Floridiot! You have the most cogent comment in this thread. Dirt simple. No viable argument against it either.


COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
... Bob Bilse said on 3/4/2006 @ 1:30 am PT...


Doug (#6), I, for one, do not want him to "shut" his "mouth".

If I had any doubts that Bev and Brad were onto something, or that Clint Curtis is telling the truth, this person's long, detailed, posts make it clear that they are.

Doug, he says "...You make me laugh", but this is not a person who is "laughing". His darvo-like tactics are transparent. If he were laughing, he wouldn't even be here.

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All my life, when a product was flawed, such as a car, TV, or car tires, the product gets recalled. These machines have failed too many hack tests. Like any faulty product, they need to be taken off the market.

You can't have machines that fail hack tests in our elections. This is in violation of my basic rights as an American citizen (yours, also).

Ad hominum attacks on those who have uncovered these faults only strengthen their position, and leads one towards the conclusion that the flaws were intentional.

................so I, personally, would prefer if he keeps up with his posting. Better to keep this sort of thing in front of you.

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COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
... Bob Bilse said on 3/4/2006 @ 1:51 am PT...


Bev and Brad are working hard to uncover some very disturbing anomolies. Calling what they have been reporting "misinformation" isn't the truth, simply because one says it is true.

The bottom line for me: Unaccountable, clearly hack-able, machines have no place in my voting process.

If they are welcome to you, then you're not showing me that you care too much about your right to having your vote counted in a dependable manner.

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A general suggestion: Mind the ad hominum nature of your posts, people; if you have a valid point, it only detracts from it; it adds nothing we can use. The only ones who can appreciate it (if even them), are the ones who already agree with you. You lose the undecided/opponent every time, and invalidate your point.

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COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
... Bob Bilse said on 3/4/2006 @ 2:15 am PT...


Please pardon me for doing so, Floridiot, but I actually missed your post (#16), and read it after I posted. Beautifully and simply put.

"Nuff said", indeed.

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COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
... Doug Eldritch said on 3/4/2006 @ 3:38 am PT...


Bob,

This guy is truly hilarious and is being paid by Howard Ahmanson no doubt. A team of investigators is going to be ripping open one of these schools in florida soon enough.....

Lets find out who really has the last laugh Wally, you are an outright liar. You work for Diebold and it is obvious to everyone.

You said something so hilarious and ridiculous no one would believe it: You said these machines are the best on the market and haven't lost ANY real votes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was the biggest shot to your credibility right there! Dear lord, I am going to see you go under. You are committing perjury if this was a court room. The flaws and crooks in your company stack up to one large conspiracy sham, and the voting vendors, aka Diebold & Sequoia pay alot of the ITA boards fees and also pay for REAL IT experts to sign NDA agreements so they can't expose the flaws.

Now you see it!

You're caught Wally, keep on digging that grave.

Doug E.


COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
... Dredd said on 3/4/2006 @ 5:36 am PT...


After hearing the evidence and argument Wally, I have to agree with Floridiot, Doug E and Bev Harris.

The Berkeley Report supports their assertions, and says:

"Harri Hursti's attack does work: Mr. Hursti's attack on the AV-OS is definitely real. He was indeed able to change the election results by doing nothing more than modifying the contents of a memory card. He needed no passwords, no cryptographic keys, and no access to any other part of the voting system, including the GEMS election management server."

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"Memory card attacks are a real threat: We determined that anyone who has access to a memory card of the AV-OS, and can tamper it (i.e. modify its contents), and can have the modified cards used in a voting machine during election, can indeed modify the election results from that machine in a number of ways. The fact that the the results are incorrect cannot be detected except by a recount of the original paper ballots."

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"Successful attacks can only be detected by examining the paper ballots: There would be no way to know that any of these attacks occurred; the canvass procedure would not detect any anomalies, and would just produce incorrect results. The only way to detect and correct the problem would be by recount of the original paper ballots, e.g. during the 1 percent manual recount."


COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
... suds said on 3/4/2006 @ 5:48 am PT...


I am not an electronics or software expert, but like most of you, I use the stuff constantly and have had my fair share of crashes, glitches, and lock-ups. I use ATMS and swipe credit cards at the grocery store and service stations--- there is , in short, a common sense element to all of this.

Seems to me sufficient distrust of the electronics in voting machines is there to step back from them until the bugs are worked out. Just because large companies are heavily invested in the product--or local governments--there is no reason to continue their use. If machine makers suffer consumer resistance, they modify their behavior and their products---that is, if it is a true "business".

What we see is a whole series of corporations who behave more like defense contractors and suppliers. They defend themselves like Lockheed and General Electric. It's like "Yes, we know the Osprey has a few problems and , yes we crashed about 6 of them during flight readinessl tests, but ylook---you're gonna lose your investment in our testing program and our tantalizing pricing of the finished product if you end the program now. Are you crazy? Just commit to buying our defective machines--that's all we ask. We promise to deliver ones that really do work as well as we originially specified in --oooh, another two election cycles. Deal?"

Isn't this what folks complain about? Isn't it common sense?

I know I have made an argument that technicians like both Doug and Wally would find beneath consideration. But it is essentially the argument what boils underneath all of this stuff.

There are lots of places in this world that do very well by pen and paper vote-casting. It's worth resorting to it again.


COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
... Dredd said on 3/4/2006 @ 6:14 am PT...


The Berkeley Report says further that:

"Interpreter bugs lead to another, more dangerous family of vulnerabilities: However, there is another category of more serious vulnerabilities we discovered that go well beyond what Mr. Hursti demonstrated, and yet require no more access to the voting system than he had. These vulnerabilities are consequences of bugs - 16 in all - in the implementation of the AccuBasic interpreter for the AV-OS. These bugs would have no effect at all in the absence of deliberate tampering, and would not be discovered by any amount of functionality testing; but they could allow an attacker to completely control the behavior of the AV-OS. An attacker could change vote totals, modify reports, change the names of candidates, change the races being voted on, or insert his own code into the running firmware of the machine."

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"The bugs are classic, and can only be found by source code review: Finding these bugs was only possible through close study of the source code. All of them are classic security flaws, including buffer overruns, array bounds violations, double-free errors, format string vulnerabilities, and several others. There may, of course, be additional bugs, or kinds of bugs, that we did not find."

Does anyone remember the book The Cuckoo's Egg, by Cliff Stohl?

It is a true story of a case where the NSA, Pentagon, CIA, and many, many other government computer systems were hacked. And I mean HACKED BIG T