With the apparent coup d'etat and war with Iran coming, this may all be a moot issue - getting way scary out there!

While the AP makes money selling their "glitched" stories to newspapers etc., i find that their stories tend to misinform the reader especially if the reader has no previous knowledge of what the AP author is writing about AND tend to be in favor of the Bush administration's position from the slant they put on the story. This can be illustrated by recent articles i read by AP writer Becky Bohrer on Yellowstone brown bear delisting. There was a long article of Bushit in the Orange County Register about a month ago. For example, while Wild Bears Project Director Louisa Willcox submitted a paper stating 57 IMPORTANT REASONS AGAINST DELISTING THE ISOLATED YELLOWSTONE POPULATION OF BROWN BEARS SUFFERING FROM INBREEDING, Ms. Bohrer mislead the reader by skimming over the important reasons against delisting and many other fact, such as the importance of the bear. She ended her story with the following quote: "If we do not delist now when can we delist>." So, if there is a way for AP to screw up a story, when and if they finally write it, the article can twist the story away from the truth and and mislead the American people under the disguise of being written by an unopinionated 3rd party.

Uninformed 3rd party perhaps.

Grizzly - it's off topic, but I thought you would like it - at least part of it:

DNA Test Confirms Hybrid Bear in the Wild

The bad part is it was shot by a hunter and will now be a "Trophy" - that part disgusts me!

My sincere thanks to Bev Harris, Brad Friedman, and everyone else involved in this battle.

John

Thanks, Brad and John Gideon, for your persistence in covering story after story illustrating the need for real election reform.

As of 8 a.m. this morning I was doing final edits on a 23-page report. You may notice that it is only 12 pages.

Harri had hoped to split the report into two --- one concerning the devastating and inexcusable flaws, and another "laundry list" of secondary issues, some of which are also quite troubling.

Then we put the whole thing into one report. Harri and I were both up pretty much the whole night making final decisions as to what to redact and who needs to receive the unredacted portion and so forth. I left to get coffee around 8 a.m. and realized that the "laundry list" was very easy for reporters to understand, lots of photos and so forth. Problem is, the devastation is in the triple-play (bootloader/operating system/files) and that part is harder to understand.

If we kept the whole report together, reporters would pick up the easy stuff and use that instead of the really important story on the triple-play.

Therefore, we pulled the laundry list for Monday publication. It has a concise but very interesting section on macros, as well as some other disturbing news.

It is time for all communicators and activist groups to truly work together to pull these beasts out of elections.

When are we going to do something? Why have we let them get away with fraud, stealing the election, then one crime after another?

Do we have to put a comedian into office to get something done?

Kay In L.A>

This reads to me like they built in an intentional backdoor. Keep looking people. Likely there are more.

In the computer world, redundancy is A Very Good Thing.

RELEASE THE HACK TO THE PUBLIC!!

That is the only way they will listen. Public exposure has been used many times with security exploits involving software like Microsoft Windows. The vendors cannot ignore a serious security flaw that is in the wild and nor can election supervisors.

Wow! Things really seem to be converging into something tangible, even for the MSM.

The press has been guilty of ignorance until now. It's VERY maddening to see this plagiarism of the brave people who cared enough to do something about this years ago!

At least there are hundreds of us who know who the real hero's are, and we will NEVER forget you!

The way I'm reading this,
Are we only able to talk about vulnerabilities in the future tense , and not past election hacks to be noticed by the Corporate media ?

Just wondering

to Simon Magus:

"RELEASE THE HACK TO THE PUBLIC!!"

We have released the hack to the public. Fewer than 50 words were redacted from a 12 -page report. Quite possibly it would violate the Patriot Act to release the names of the files to the public before CERT, EAC, NIST and the secretaries of state of Florida, Georgia, California, Pennsylvania, Utah, Washington, Arizona, Texas, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Mississippi, Virginia, Maryland, New Hampshire, Vermont, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Tennessee and Ohio have the opportunity to pull the machines out of use.

However, if they do NOT act promptly to remove these machines from service, and they have had time to do so, it is quite likely that we will release the filenames needed to hack the system.

Really that's all we redacted. Specific filenames. The road map is in the report, but at this time we did not put gas in the car.

A "deliberate security vulnerability" in this context is a deliberate attempt to destabilize the American government.

If the people, for any reason, cannot change their government thru their vote, then we have by definition a dictatorship.

A republican dictatorship. Big brother is a republican.

In theory there are only 3 IT managers at the big 3 election machine companies. Diebold has a head of IT in its election systems division, ES & S has one, and Sequoia has one.

Massive destabilization of the ability to change the government, transparently and honestly, has taken place.

Wake up and smell the republican dictatorship.

In tribute:

"The citizenry owes an immense debt of gratitude to Bruce Funk, the Emery County Clerk for Emery County, Utah who, upon noticing anomalies in the Diebold TSx machines delivered to his county, requested an independent evaluation of this voting system." (Bev Harris and/or Black Box Voting)

Thank you Bev. I was worried the details would remain secret. That is a relief.

Wow, these comments are taking a long time to register tonight! That was redundant!

Floridiot #11

Good point, I think you're probably right.

Floridiot #11

Good point! I think you might be right on that.