READER COMMENTS ON
"Mr. Curtis Goes to Washington..."
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 12/31/2004 @ 10:07 pm PT...
Great news! Thanks for sharing it.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 6:59 am PT...
This is not "testiimony to Congress" that Clint & Bev will be doing.
It is nothing more than a forum with an ousted Congressmen with zero budget and subpeona power. No different than say a town hall meeting with an ex-Congressman.
It means nothing. There will be no major media there. This forum could be held in a broom closet for the number of people that will attend.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but then again, that is why I am here, right?
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 8:06 am PT...
I think we're being hoodwinked. The real story is NEE.
If you're following this story, and the "Nee" connection doesn't freak you out, you must be an operative. How does this guy get off with a $100 fine?
Even you Attorney Jim, if you have any sense of loyalty to this country, why doesn't treason bug you?
I'm starting to wonder if Feeney and Yang aren't happy to have this Curtis thing blowing smoke away from the possible "TREASON" they perpetrated with NEE. Certainly, the vote fixing crime does not hold the same punishment as TREASON, which is punishable by death.
Is NEE central to this whole thing? Yang nurtured NEE, Feeney nurtured Yang...
NEE plead guilty, .....$100 fine. Since when does treason get a slap on the wrists.
Something is rotten in Denmark. Don't lose focus on NEE.
"WE are the knights who say NEE!"
NEE NEE NEE NEE
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 8:40 am PT...
Bob Bislme says "Poll number have indicated that 20% believe there is manipulation and fraud in the vote." Yup, and poll numbers also show that 25% of people believe in the Loch Ness Monster, 37% believe their cars have muffler belts, and 19% of America would cover their phones with a bag if somebody called them and said "This is the phone company, we are blowing out the lines and look out for dust".
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 9:19 am PT...
ah yes mr. jim, this country is full of nutcakes......and those same people voted for Bush because they thought he was the son of GOD!
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
FRANCES LEE BRIGHT
said on 1/1/2005 @ 9:29 am PT...
I CALLED INTO C-SPAN TODAY.. 1-1-05 AND TOLD MR. ROBBINS OF NATIONAL REVIEW AND ALL THE WORLD AND THE USA.. TO COME TO YOUR WEB SITE AND ABOUT A MAN WHO TESTIFIED ON DECEMBER 13.... ON THE PROTOTYPE HE WAS ASKED TO MAKE.. BY TOM FEENEY.. TO RIG AN ELECTION.
ONLY BY GETTING THIS MAN AND HIS STORY BEFORE THE PEOPLE... CAN WE SAVE HIM. HIS LIFE IS IN DANGER.. AND HE KNOWS IT.
THEY HAVE ALREADY KILLED ONE MAN.. A MR. RAYMOND LEMME AND THE WHISTLEBLOWER'S DOG.
HOW DARE THEY TAKE OUR VOICES!! HOW DARE THEY COMMITT TREASON FOR POWER... HOW DARE THEY.... STEAL OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR BALLOT.. I HOPE THEY ALL ROT IN PRISON.. FOR DECADES.
FRANCES L. BRIGHT..
A GREAT GRANDMA.. IN INDIANA
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 9:38 am PT...
Why is NEE helping the Communist Chinese with treasonous crimes against our military?
THIS IS THE REAL STORY!
C'mon Jim. You believe in the USA right? You want to make sure we're protected form enemies right?
You want our boys to be kept safe from foriegn enemies don't you? NEE stole technology while at YANG and fed it to the Red Chinese.
This doesn't bother you Jim?
C'mon man, show us that the dissenting voice of Brad Blog isn't just some snotty brat. Show us you're capabale of of a genuine discourse. Anytime a potential enemy of our soldiers receives technology that "we the people" paid to develop to keep our country and our boys safe, I would think the REPUBLICAN party would want to see such a
PERPATRAITOR led away in handcuffs to GTMO, but NEE just gets a suspended sentence and a $100 fine. One day our boys may find themsevles on the receiving end of this technology.
"The official sentencing documents, however, reveal that Judge Presnell sentenced Nee to be released under a 3-year supervised probation and a $100 fine to be paid immediately...."
Our soldiers .... have been put in danger by NEE.
"The chips are part of a radar-frequency guidance system for fourth-generation Hellfire anti-tank missiles aboard U.S. Army Apache attack and Comanche armed reconnaissance helicopters, according to the missiles' published specifications.
The radar guidance system works in bad weather conditions better than an earlier laser-guided version, according to an evaluation by the FAS Military Analysis Network."
C'mon Jim... there's no concpisracy "theory" on this. NEE plead guilty. Do you think he should be in jail?
Let's have a real discourse instead of acting like children.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 9:42 am PT...
Frances: I am sure C-Span had a good chuckle when they played your message then they all got back to the real news.
Question of the day:
Do the inmates of insane asylums know why they are there, or do they consder themselves victims of a conspiracy to take away their freedom.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 12:00 pm PT...
thanks for including the info about the boston event. the event is sponsored by Coalition Against Election Fraud, a group of boston election fraud activists, working to urge congress to object to the certified election results on jan. 6th. in addition to the video of the ohio vote fraud, we will have several of the principals involved in the Ohio lawsuits . attached is a flyer describing the event. Please come!!
Boston Defend Our Democracy!
Call on Congress to Stand Up & Be CountedFor Equal Voting Rights For All On January 6!Rally for the RepublicAt the Historic Cradle of Liberty -Bostonís Faneuil HallMonday, January 37 Ė 9:30 p.m. Join the March to Faneuil Hall:Gather at Boston Common by the State House at 6:30 p.m.
Call on Our U.S. Senators & Reps. to Do the Right Thing January 6
And Invoke our Constitutional Protections of Voting Rights for All!
Ask them NOT to certify the electoral votes of states where election results are still in question. Mounting evidence of voter suppression and vote tampering has emerged from Ohio, Florida, New Mexico and other states. Members of Congress plan a challenge in the Joint Session of the U.S. Congress on January 6, 2005. Ask your Senators and Reps. to join the challenge.
Stand in Solidarity with Voters Across the Country!
Rally for the Republic will occur nationwide, in Columbus, D.C. & San Francisco on January 3-4.
Speakers to Include:
David Lytel - Part of the 2000 & 2004 challenges to Congress against the certification of Electoral College votes for reasons of election fraud and civil rights violations
John Bonifaz - General Counsel of the National Voting Rights Institute and Co-counsel for Presidential Candidates David Cobb and Michael Badnarik in their demand for a meaningful recount of 2004 in Ohio
Pat LaMarche Ė Vice Presidential candidate for the Green Party, Historian, Liberal talk show host
Jonathan Simon Ė Activist and Attorney, Collaborator with Steven Freeman on 2004 exit poll analysis
Tom Barbera - Waltham Elector whose motion asking for the investigation and remedy of election
violations was passed unanimously by all twelve Massachusetts Electors
Faye Morrison - Ayer Selectwoman, witness to voter intimidation and touch screen fraud in FL and OH
Donna Palermino, Esq. - Activist and Attorney, to speak on the legal aspects of the challenge
Campaign Volunteers - Local citizens to share their experiences of vote suppression
PLUS A SHORT VIDEO ON VOTE SUPPRESSION IN OHIO & Music by Greg Greenway, folk singer
Sponsored by the Coalition Against Election Fraud, www.caef.us - Contact us at email@example.com
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 12:10 pm PT...
Good to hear! The higher-profile these people remain (yourself included), the safer they are.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 12:58 pm PT...
Good God! I just saw the video you linked here.
If you throw out EVERYTHING else (Tom Feeney, YEI, Clint Curtis, Florida, New Mexico, Olbermann, EVERYTHING!), this film alone makes it clear what is really happening!
If this is "Area 51", the "aliens" are, indeed, here! The question is not that this is real. IT IS! The question is: Can you get the information to the vast majority of the public?
Poll number have indicated that 20% believe there is manipulation and fraud in the vote. That number will, doubtless, jump greatly, if the info can get to all the people who are blissfully being kept in-the-dark about all of this.
This video shouldn't be on your blog. It should be on every major news station WORLDWIDE! The fact that the media is sweeping this under the rug is a scandal that is equal to the fraud itself!
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 1:10 pm PT...
Your posts are akin to peeing on a railroad track to try and stop a train. You defend these criminals because you like the results of their crimes. Doesn't say much for you. Nothing you say says much for you.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 2:27 pm PT...
God Bless GW Bush, a wonderful President, man, father, husband, and genuine person.
We are going to put his profile and Ronald Reagan's profile on Mount Rushmore, mark my words.
We rule the House, Senate, and Presidency because mainstream America agrees with us.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 2:55 pm PT...
To all of you commenting that Nee is the story and not Feeney, STOP IT. Your acting as if China isn't already a big military power. If the U.S. goes to war with China EVERYBODY loses. Like I've said before, Fox Newslike red herring issues only work with docile cable news viewers. The real issue should stand, vote fraud. We all lose if that's the case. Clinton lost the 2000 election for Gore not because of Monica, but because he alienated the left wing of the party. They made their votes count. In 2004, there were a record number of Republicans endorsing the Democratic Presidential candidate, including Bush's own hometown newspaper (Crawford, TX). Their votes didn't matter because of "glitches" in the computer and now we have power hungry madmen in office killing civilians for oil in our name. Exit polls are never wrong and it proved that Kerry won. If we don't have transparency in our votes, then there is no real election. All we have is a few key people anointing Kings and Generals for us.
VOTE FRAUD IS THE BIG ISSUE.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 3:40 pm PT...
With all due respect to the good Horkus, I think you may be dismissing a big piece of the puzzle.
NEE KNIGHT is right in that the Nee part of the puzzle (and the espionage to the Peoples Republic of China) is a huge part of this story.
The Vote-Rigging aspect happens to be particularly sexy at the moment, and is indeed also a crucial part.
I don't see any particular advantage to denigrating one part of the story over another. Both pieces (and several others) all combine to lead to the BIG PICTURE.
It is that picture that folks like myself (and the *many* other folks currently investigating this --- though perhaps not as loudly and publicly as I) are ultimately keeping our eyes on.
Reporting one facet of the story today, and another facet tomorrow does not mean that *anybody* is taking their eyes off the big picture.
Never fear...But do continue to make lots of noise.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 3:42 pm PT...
And I should add a BIG thank you to Grandma FRANCES from Indiana for taking it upon herself to make NOISE of her own on C-SPAN today!
I would encourage ALL OF YOU to find such opportunities to spread the word about the tip of the iceberg that we have been discussing here for the last 3 weeks.
We *know* what seems to be going on. The rest of the world still needs a heads up.
BE THE MEDIA.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 3:43 pm PT...
"We rule the House, Senate, and Presidency because mainstream America agrees with us."
Or is that because mainstream electronic voting machine and tabulation systems made and operated by partisan Republicans agree with you?
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 1/1/2005 @ 7:41 pm PT...
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 2:07 am PT...
seems to me that none of this contesting/challenging/etc will acocmplish anything. We should be putting all of our efforts into reforming the system so that it is immune to such suppression tactics in future election. As for me, I'm spending all Election Day 2008 calling in bomb threats to polling locations in Republican neighborhoods.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 2:10 am PT...
oh, and I do a great middle eastern accent too!!
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 10:44 am PT...
Amir: why wait till 2008?
There'll be plenty of opportunity to use your talents in 2006!
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 10:57 am PT...
The "disturbing film" Brad mentioned and which Bob Bilse says is a show stopper must get to Conyers and also senators ...
if it has not already ...
and it should be shown in the Ohio lawsuits ... do their lawyers know yet ...
Kerry did an interview and does not mention anything about challenges or Ohio problems ...
Kerry or Edwards need to step up too ...
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 11:10 am PT...
Brad points out that the NEE story is also a link in the chain. Horkus seemed afraid we were forgetting it and/or it needs not to move up towards the top or be the top.
This is a chess-game at this point and all the pieces are important ... and remember that a pawn can be used to set up check mate ...
It gives a grip to the story as well ... people will deeply wonder why a spy who admitted to doing it at least 20 times was not punished.
People will see that the NEE story does not fit in with "we take all allegations seriously" as the investigative authorities have stated.
It lends valid grounds for further suspicion as well, because it is a partner in the notion "If this company will harbor and cover up for communist spies, why would they not cover up a for a 'mere' vote fraud advocator?" (especially one who is providing so well for them) ...
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 11:16 am PT...
Amir Talai. I will prosecute you and put you in jail if you do or conspire to do any vote intimidation of the sort you mentioned.
You are foolish (if you are not a plant) because you may have violated the law by saying what you said and bring suspicion to a valid, law abiding BLOG.
I request an apology or removal of your post.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 11:25 am PT...
I agree Dreed, time for making polite requests over, time to get tougher, louder, demanding and persistant. Time to demand Kerry jump in and help Conyers kick ass.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 12:24 pm PT...
For the benefit of all:
It has to do with the fact that if Amir Talai had made his comments at an airport he would be BLOGGING from jail right now.
WAKE up, this is serious and for real.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 1:45 pm PT...
Lookout conspirators: the sky is falling.
God Bless G W Bush! A REAL world hero, not like the phony Kerry.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 2:13 pm PT...
I'm sure all the dead people from 9/11 to Iraq think George DUMBYA is a REAL blast!
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 6:04 pm PT...
Yes, Dredd. You are quite right. It is deadly serious and that's why we need to laugh every once in a while.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
said on 1/2/2005 @ 11:15 pm PT...
Jimmo, I agreed he is a world hero.
n : a large sandwich made of a long crusty roll split lengthwise and filled with meats and cheese (and tomato and onion and lettuce and condiments); different names are used in different sections of the United States [syn: bomber, grinder, hero, hoagie, hoagy, poor boy, sub, submarine, submarine sandwich, torpedo, wedge, zep]
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 1/3/2005 @ 2:46 am PT...
Chill dredd, I was only joking. mostly. and thanks winter patriot for getting the joke. Dredd, you're not by any chance the same guy who used 100 aliases to complain to the FCC about Stern, are ya?
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
said on 1/3/2005 @ 10:02 am PT...
Airport and airline security has long been serious business, but since the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington D.C. on Sept. 11, 2001, airport security is extremely tight and JOKES ARE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY.
Getting through security can be tense and frustrating, and it is natural to try to relieve tensions with a joke. But resist the urge no matter what happens because an innocent joke or casual comment about a weapon or hijacking could cause you a lot of trouble.
A British man was sentenced to three months in jail in Australia after he boarded a plane while drunk, sprayed an aerosol in the cabin and jokingly told his companion that he would hijack the plane with his knife.
A passenger checking in to board a plane in Houston joked that he had a nuclear bomb. He was arrested, interrogated and jailed.
An Air France pilot was arrested in New York in August 2003 for allegedly joking during a lengthy security check that he had a bomb in his shoe.
The FBI says penalties for making false threats about weapons on airplanes could range from a few months if youíre charged with a Class A misdemeanor to a maximum of ten years for a felony involving severely impeded air traffic.
please read this article
Under the current security laws the BRAD BLOG could be seized and shut down. All they need is the most flimsy of excuses. It has already been done many times.
And it would be against the law (a felony) for Brad to inform us it had happened under those laws.
You say you were kidding, but are you a kid? They have put people is jail FOR LESS than you did.
I hope it will be scrubbed even tho a joke. I did not take it as serious, just not smart enough.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
said on 1/3/2005 @ 11:58 am PT...
winter patriot said
Yes, Dredd. You are quite right. It is deadly serious and that's why we need to laugh every once in a while.
Jokes are things that get people thrown in jail ... if they do not qualify as humor.
I guess in fact they are not "jokes" after all.
If someone yells "fire" in a theatre they are liable and will go to jail. The defense of "I was joking" is not a legal defense to such a crime. The response to such an act is "It was such a bad 'joke' it was a crime".
If someone says "I am going to call up so and so and make a bomb threat" the term "I was only joking" only lends fire to the flames ... it offers no redeeming content.
What you get when you do that is "Oh, not only are you going to do some time, you are also not the brightest bulb in the chandelier".
In short, it is not a legal defense. For example, in my earlier post I pointed out:
A passenger checking in to board a plane in Houston *JOKED* that he had a nuclear bomb. He was arrested, interrogated and jailed.
An Air France pilot was arrested in New York in August 2003 for allegedly *JOKING* during a lengthy security check that he had a bomb in his shoe.
So, the issue is, when someone *JOKED* that they were "going to do bomb threats at polling places", does the fact that THEY thought it was funny, make it funny for everyone else ... including the FBI?
I do not think so.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
said on 1/3/2005 @ 4:24 pm PT...
For what it's worth, this is neither an airport or a polling place.
I took Amir's comments as satire when I read them originally, and his followup comments seem to have made that even more clear.
As well, for an additional "whatever it's worth", I happen to know Amir personally, and recognize that he is anything but the sort of person who would actually *do* such a thing.
If we don't use at least a *bit* of common sense in determining what is a real threat, and what is either satire, or said simply to make a point, then I think we'd really be lost. (And such great films like "The Pope Must Die" could never have been made at all!)
All of that said, I did point Amir via Email to this item which does show that threats via Blogs (though the original threat has been deleted in this case, so we don't know if it's anywhere near as clearly-satirical as Amir's) can and do get attention from "authorities".
Beyond that, we don't control Amir and neither would we want to He is capable of defending his statements --- or not --- as he sees fit.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
said on 1/3/2005 @ 6:37 pm PT...
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COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
said on 1/4/2005 @ 12:31 pm PT...
This is neither an airport nor a polling place
Didn't say it was. This issue is "can something be said here that would lead to the same results as if it were?"
Your kindness to Amir by emailing him an example of the reality that a SS, CIA, or FBI agent might now have some part in his life is appreciated.
That was my drift as well.
But also to protect this good BLOG. Note that the blogger you called Amir's attention to changed his BLOG rules to:
If you make a comment in my journal that could in any way be misconstrued as a threat against any high-ranking official, I will have to delete it. It's nothing personal. It's just self-protection.
You said that "his [Amir's] followup comments seem to have made that even more clear". If you read it carefully he said "I was joking, mostly". But yeah, he did move away from that more.
Everyone should realize that every word of every post is monitored ... by the authorities. You better believe it!
As one who has been imprisoned in a federal joint for political beliefs, and who has escaped attempts inside that joint by officials to take me out (lotsa blood, lotsa blood) ... and who has led a good, long life since ... I tend to place a certain reality into the mix of my thoughts about what we are facing.
Only because, like the BLOGGER who now has a lifetime of observance to "look forward to", I have lived it.
It ain't no play pretend video game folks. But just because it is dangerous does not make it something to give up. Our struggle is a good one.