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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
... Doug Eldritch said on 11/1/2005 @ 6:39 pm PT...
Tis' the season to be indicted falalalala, lalala la la....
Down with Diebold and down with all of them!
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
... Brad said on 11/1/2005 @ 6:42 pm PT...
Link to video fixed. Was original broken. (Thanks, Arry!)
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
... Arry said on 11/1/2005 @ 7:15 pm PT...
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
... Arry said on 11/1/2005 @ 7:44 pm PT...
#2 - You're welcome, Brad.
Remember ladies... Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
... onyx said on 11/1/2005 @ 7:49 pm PT...
I think this is quite an admission:
If a trial goes ahead, Cooper said he would name Rove as his source of the information.
How's Rove going to get out that?
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
... MarkH said on 11/1/2005 @ 8:18 pm PT...
Fitzgerald said (as I recall) he wasn't going for the Espionage Act indictment of Libby because he couldn't prove Libby's intent was the harm of Plame which could arise from outing her. If he believes that's an accurate interpretation of the law then it's unlikely he'd also go after Rove either. But, if he sees it as a conspiracy, then there's reason to believe they intended some consequences for Plame, other than just for people to know her name.
Waiting for Fitzgerald reminds me of the Carly Simon song about ....... antici ......
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
... Savantster said on 11/1/2005 @ 10:09 pm PT...
On the upside, MarkH.. he -could- be waiting for more to happen with Libbey first.. once that's underway and "sources" feel more confident that something -is- gonna happen, perhaps someone (or a few) come forward and "mention how Rove said the plan was X and Y".. or some such..
Not holding my breath, but I can dream.. can't I?
man that is just too gross to think about.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
... Editor said on 11/2/2005 @ 4:58 am PT...
But he did commit the biggest sex act of all; bush screwed an entire nation!
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
... Floridiot said on 11/2/2005 @ 6:57 am PT...
This is about the judge that was temporarily assigned to give Delay a new judge, I found this over at kos, for anybody who is interested
I guess nothing to see here folks, move along, (or should we ?)
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 11/2/2005 @ 7:29 am PT...
"I am not a crook. Checkers is not a crook. And I am not Checkers."
I once asked my father, a rabid repuke, what he thought about Nixon and watergate. He said and I quote..."sometimes you gotta do bad to do good."
How about that, nothing has changed with the GOP in 30 years, except maybe they are more 'obviously arrogant' criminals.
They now evidently think they need to "do more good" by doing more bad.
Pathetic actually. They have power and it has corrupted them.
The difference is that they are now very, very dangerous. Back then they were only dangerous.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
... Savantster said on 11/2/2005 @ 8:59 am PT...
Well, given that the judge "agreed" that being a Dem is "a bad thing" in this case, I have to think the game is, in fact, on. I seriously doubt we'll get a "neutral" judge.. I don't think there is such a thing..
Leave it up to the Republicans to turn "law" into a political issue. Of course, their "argument" is, "you're trying to criminalize politics", which is code for "politicians shouldn't be bound by any law"..
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
... Kira said on 11/2/2005 @ 9:53 am PT...
JPentz #8 --- my thoughts, too!!! However --- Britney Spears might go 4 it.
So - here's a pretty good article by William Pitt Rivers:
[snip] In an article I wrote on October 17 titled "The Heart of the Matter," I said, "However important Rove and Libby may be to this administration, neither represents the end of the story. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, with deliberation and intent, took this country to war in Iraq based on false premises, inflated intelligence and bald-faced scare tactics. They used September 11 against their own people to get what they wanted. That is the heart of this matter. If Fitzgerald's investigation ends at Rove and Libby, it will have ended too soon. The Office of Special Plans to the White House Iraq Group, Cheney to Langley and Bush with his Executive Order, a war to get paid and cash money, honey, for Halliburton and friends. Rove and Libby are small fish. If and when they get fried, the stink may well fill the Oval Office. If George and Dick come out of this unscathed, Mr. Fitzgerald may as well have stayed in Chicago."
At first blush, the indictment of Libby gets nowhere near the center of the issue: the lies that led to war, and the outing of a covert CIA agent to cover those lies. Yet it feels very much as if this indictment was only the first salvo in a larger barrage to come.
At a minimum, the indictment managed to wake up the Democrats. Senator Harry Reid threw down a scathing condemnation of the Bush administration and the war in a statement he read on the Senate floor on Tuesday. "This past weekend, we witnessed the indictment of I. Lewis Libby, the Vice President's Chief of Staff and a senior Advisor to President Bush," said Reid. "Libby is the first sitting White House staffer to be indicted in 135 years. This indictment raises very serious charges. It asserts this Administration engaged in actions that both harmed our national security and are morally repugnant. The decision to place U.S. soldiers in harm's way is the most significant responsibility the Constitution invests in the Congress. The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really about: how the Administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions."
"When General Shinseki indicated several hundred thousand troops would be needed in Iraq," continued Reid, "his military career came to an end. When then OMB Director Larry Lindsay suggested the cost of this war would approach $200 billion, his career in the Administration came to an end. When U.N. Chief Weapons Inspector Hans Blix challenged conclusions about Saddam's WMD capabilities, the Administration pulled out his inspectors. When Nobel Prize winner and IAEA head Mohammed el-Baradei raised questions about the Administration's claims of Saddam's nuclear capabilities, the Administration attempted to remove him from his post. When Joe Wilson stated that there was no attempt by Saddam to acquire uranium from Niger, the Administration launched a vicious and coordinated campaign to demean and discredit him, going so far as to expose the fact that his wife worked as a CIA agent. This behavior is unacceptable." [snip]
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
... Kira said on 11/2/2005 @ 10:14 am PT...
It looks like Senate Democrats are going to try to expose all of the lies and corruption of the neofascist Bush regime!
We should all get behind this and support Reid, or anybody else who puts this information into the record. We've got to keep DEMANDING this kind of action by the people who are sitting in power in our government today.
Hopefully we will be able to make some changes so we can change the inner workings of our government ... DEMAND a change.
Get rid of ALL lobbying in government and change the corporate campaign finance laws so we are not suffocated under a "ruling elite class."
"[When] corruption.. has prevailed in those offices [of]... government and [has] so familiarized itself as that men otherwise honest could look on it without horror,... [then we must] be alive to the suppression of this odious practice and... bring to punishment and brand with eternal disgrace every man guilty of it, whatever be his station." --Thomas Jefferson to W. C. C. Claiborne, 1804.
"[Montesquieu wrote in Spirit of the Laws, VIII,c.12:] 'When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.'" --Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
... Arry said on 11/2/2005 @ 10:51 am PT...
Kira --- Thanks for you fine postings and particularly for Jefferson's (and Montesquieu's) great words.
We need to take them to heart because they are literally true. (Just think of the muddled path from Nixon to the present.)
"...every other correction is either useless or a new evil." I hope enough people realize it or we will never dig out.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
... Kira said on 11/2/2005 @ 12:21 pm PT...
Thanks Arry. I know Jefferson is spinning in his grave. We must keep his words alive --- and teach those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.
We are very close to the point of no return and it's unbelievable we've come to this place. It's time to band together with the Democrats whenever they stand up against this regime. We must continue to let them know what we expect of them and when they abuse their position by kow-towing with the neoCONs, we must let them know.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 11/2/2005 @ 1:08 pm PT...
Paging Gannon..........gwb bj needed...wear a blue dress
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
... Kira said on 11/2/2005 @ 1:13 pm PT...
Hahahah! MMIIXX --- I nearly choked on my juice --- totally unprepared for that hilarious thought! Thank you --- I really needed a laugh!!!
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 11/2/2005 @ 2:11 pm PT...
KIRA "I nearly choked on my juice" not your best choice of words. LOL
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
... Kira said on 11/2/2005 @ 2:42 pm PT...
OMG!!! NO-NO-NO!! *sputter!* I've got to be really careful what I say around you! :p
I used to think that Richard Nixon was the worst president the country has ever had. How could anyone kill as many people and disrespect democracy on the level as Nixon. I never thought anyone could top him - until now.
George W. Bush is one of THE, dumbest president in the history of this country. The only thing he was known for doing as Texas governor was executing people and at the rate he was going, he probably took some innocent lives. He used oil money for a huge campaign chest and his daddy's name to get elected. During the Vietnam War, he smoked pot, snorted cocaine and drank heavy with his frat buddies while poor people went to fight in the war.
And he could still pass himself off as a "patriot" during the last election. So he now sends our sons and daughters to their deaths, while all of his family is safe and secure.
He is nothing but a spoiled rich kid who got his job from his dad and his oil company buddies. I didn't think anyone could out Nixon, Nixon. But Bush may succeed. He started a bloody war no one needed and, as with Vietnam, he just can't see the folly in what he is doing.
I wrote the following about Nixon in my new book Memoirs Of A Drugged-up, Sex-crazed Yippie:
"Even though he was later touted as a "foreign policy expert," by the mainstream press, Nixon may well have presided over more death and destruction than any other president since World War II. What I didn't realize until years after I left high school was that Nixon's meddling in Cambodia led to a bloody civil war. Nixon sent to Cambodia 30,000 US troops, and US planes dropped a quarter-of-a-million tons of bombs in the eastern part of the country in 140 days. The CIA, under Nixon, overthrew the nationalistic Norodom Sihanouk regime and replaced it with the corrupt and incompetent right-wing-military leader Lon Nol. By 1974 most of Cambodia's countryside was under the control of the National United Front of Kampuchea, a coalition that was mostly Norodom Sihanouk, a few of his supporters, and Pol Pot's Communist Party of Kampuchea. Lon Nol's Khmer Republic government and its army were quickly losing control of the country and controlled little more than the capitol, Phnom Penh. In addition to Cambodia, there was Nixon's disastrous handling of the Vietnam War. He slowly pulled out US troops while using military aid to try and prop up the army of South Vietnam. He called it "Vietnamization." He fought a ruthless war on drugs. He had contempt for civil liberties.
Nixon and Kissinger could hardly hide their joy at seeing Chile's President (Salvador) Allende overthrown by the murderous (Augusto) Pinochet. I was beginning to see just how bad a leader Nixon was. I could remember back in 1970 when four students were shot at Kent State in Ohio. The governor had called out the national guards to keep order and prevent turbulent protests. The news media suggested that Nixon didn't seem to care. He almost seemed content that students protesting him got shot. He seemed to brutally oppose anyone whom he thought was in his way. Nixon may have been the worst US president of the entire century. It was a great moment when he fell."
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 11/2/2005 @ 4:51 pm PT...
nixon and bush hopefully will share the same fate.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 11/2/2005 @ 5:16 pm PT...
Just in case rove uses the "I forget" tactic...
Early on, Rove showed he had the brainpower to go places. His sister remembers that the family used to rely on Rove's photographic memory for evening entertainment. "The game was, 'See if you can stump Karl,'" she says. His older brother Eric would read a passage from a book Karl had read the week before. The challenge was to guess which word his brother had intentionally left out.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
... Kira said on 11/2/2005 @ 6:11 pm PT...
That is a great article, MMIIXX. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see what Fitzie actually has planned & what else might be up his sleeve! He'd better deliver.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
... ELS said on 11/2/2005 @ 9:11 pm PT...
KATRINA was Bush's big BLOW JOB!
MIERS was GW's BLUE DRESS!
(technically a BLUE SUIT dripping with half the pin/pendant display case from Wal-Mart...but it was seen by the viewing audience a squillion times more than Monica's was)
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
... MMIIXX said on 11/2/2005 @ 11:06 pm PT...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
... Robert Lockwood Mills said on 11/3/2005 @ 7:46 am PT...
For MMIIXX (#26): That story about Rove and the book is true. What many haven't heard is that the book was "Mein Kampf."
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