The first thing this administration does when it looks like it's going to get "caught" is to blame others for doing exactly what it itself is doing...I mean, this is Scott McClellan's modus operandi (well, er, that's just finger-pointing and we want to get on with our responsibilities to the American people or some other crap like that.)

So now that Bush is accusing others of rewriting history we can be damned sure that that's what they are trying to do. And they will never learn that it all comes out it the wash...

His lies are so obvious now, and yet the corporate media still manages to miss them. Surprise. Surprise.

The fact that he lies as much and as blatantly as he does should not surprise us anymore. And to think that he did this on a day to honour generations of American soldiers?!!!

What surprises me, somewhat, is why one of those military props in the background don't stand up and show W. the dignity that he deserves. The same dignity that provoked a man in Louisiana (after hurricane Katrina) to tell VP Cheney to "go fuck himself".

When Bush's approval ratings pass the Nixon threshold, we still may be lucky enough to witness this event --- LIVE --- hopefully!

My fingers and toes are crossed.

Its ironic since it is this administration that is "rewriting history", since adding a few words to a transcript of scotty mc clellan.

They are projecting, its crazy!

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more history in the making...
November 11, 2005 --- BREAKING NEWS U.S. "crating" prisoners and flying them around Eastern Europe in C-130 prison planes. Although The Washington Post failed to report on the details of CIA (now Pentagon-run) "black" interrogation sites in eastern Europe, WMR is able to report on the particulars of the covert operation. According to a well-placed intelligence source who served in eastern Europe, prisoners from Iraq and elsewhere have been flown from airport to airport in eastern Europe on board C-130 planes. Placed in what were described as "dog-sized" cages, the covert operation became fully operational after the disclosures of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, Baghdad and Camp Bucca, Umm Qasr, Iraq. The "crated" prisoners were either removed from the C-130s for interrogation at Soviet-era detention centers that were in various states of repair or were kept on board the aircraft and subjected to brutal interrogation by U.S. and/or contractor personnel, who, in some cases, were ex-members of the Soviet KGB, Stasi, and other eastern European security services. C-130s are used because of their short take-off and landing capabilities on short air strips located in remote regions.

I am sorry I missed his lies...oh I mean speech (not)! He must certainly be certifiable by now, a nut case, pychopathic liar. More and more are seeing it and afraid to speak out...when will we have a united voice....try this criminal and his gang for war crimes. Enough of the strange tales he twists to shift blame, have we had enough yet? Congress never, never, ever, ever, should have given away their constitutional power to this idiot. Why do they hate America. Rewrite history?..yes Americans have short memories but I think we will remember this one. M4 (who is beginning to sound like a broken record but just can't stop adding her 2 cents)

#5 Our posts crossed, thanks for the info. I am so glad we have people in other countries posting on the blogs so the American people can see what the Americans are doing. Pretty sad, huh. Thank ya lord for the net. M4

M4 this might be "historical" also...

November 11, 2005 --- New aspect of Valerie Plame/Brewster Jennings exposure revealed. According to U.S. intelligence sources, the White House exposure of Valerie Plame and her Brewster Jennings & Associates was intended to retaliate against the CIA's work in limiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. WMR has reported in the past on this aspect of the scandal. In addition to identifying the involvement of individuals in the White House who were close to key players in nuclear proliferation, the CIA Counter-Proliferation Division prevented the shipment of binary VX nerve gas from Turkey into Iraq in November 2002. The Brewster Jennings network in Turkey was able to intercept this shipment which was intended to be hidden in Iraq and later used as evidence that Saddam Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. U.S. intelligence sources revealed that this was a major reason the Bush White House targeted Plame and her network

You know, MMIIXX, I have always suspected this leak had something to do with Plame's work. I have not read the article yet but just what you wrote here indicates the 'missing' part of my puzzle is coming to light. I just felt she was getting close to 'something' and needed to be shut up. The 'outing' became the story, but I have never bought it. I really have all the while thought it was something she was on to. I really figured the WMD would be planted as well, to exonerate the neocons. I remember msm was showing a bunch of bunkers with broken seals for awhile, to try to tie up the loose ends but that story died. I think this is a bigger picture and hopefully Fitz is on it. Why the Niger drama? Perhaps the backdoor to the Truth. M4 (who will now go and read the linked info)

Stop_George makes an interesting point. Wouldn't you think, just once, that someone sitting in the oil painting behind Bush would shake his head from side to side, disagreeing with something he said? Or refuse to applaud when everyone else does? Or remain seated at the end when Bush gets his standing ovation? It never happens in any speech.

These people can't be real Bush supporters. Intelligent people don't agree with 100% of what anyone says, all the time, without exception. How does Karl Rove guarantee 100% sycophancy? My guess is with $$$$$, payable after the speech on the condition of perfect cooperation. Is this legal?

MMIIXX went to the site and caught up on some reading. The only thing that bothers me about this is the time it will take to get the general public to go beyond the 'leak' story. I get so angry when I read about congress members saying they voted for the IWR because of 'faulty intelligence' but the real story is the fabrication of 911. People still stick to the 'faulty intelligence' and are willing to forgive this one or that one for saying 'if I knew then..blah blah blah. '

PNAC and 911 are connected, they need to be faced, then onto the IWR. Now it is Plame's work, then onto the 'outing', the real reasons..the Truth.

I realize this is so bizarre it is hard to follow, it is like a mystery novel (I rather imagine, since I don't read them , who needs to, when we have so many real life mysteries going on.)

Somewhere, maybe here, I posted that it will probably take 200 yrs to undo all the wrongs we have done for 200 years. I think it will...this is all so complicated, and guess what...I don't think the 'architect' architected it either. I think he was totally unprepared for what unfolded. I do not credit rove with incredible genius powers. He got bush where they wanted him and has dogpaddled ever since in my opinion. He has been their puppet too, all the while believing the stories about himself the msm has been reporting. In fact I think he is dumber than a brick. Dirty and dumb and used. M4

RLM....cross posted with you this time....I am going to bed and I keep finding more comments. Anyway...right after I said rove was a fake and fraud, you gave him credit for keeping the crowd in line. You are probably absolutely correct, he has to do something to warrant his title and payday...eh. Wonder if he uses cue cards....I always somehow miss these 'shows' so don't know if you actually can see him clutching tightly to the pretender or if he is off camera. Oh well, karl's being a good boy. The Neo's love karl, he behaves so well. M4

For Merifour: I guess we're on different Circadian rhythm cycles. I'm getting up when you're retiring.

Anyway, I don't think cue cards would be enough to hold a crowd in line. Think about it. In all the televised speeches Bush has ever given in a crowd, there have always been people BEHIND HIM. That's staged, obviously, because most public-speaking sites don't have people sitting behind the speaker. And without a single exception, all those people behind him AGREE WITH EVERY WORD HE UTTERS, EVERY TIME. They all applaud together; no one sits with folded hands when anyone else is applauding. And they all stand together at the end, clapping.

People just don't behave that way, 100% of the time. I guarantee you they're bribed, but don't get paid until they've played the role properly. My question of the lawyers is, "May taxpayer dollars be used to bribe people into pretending they support a president?" Assuming this is happening, is it bribery under the law...and if so, doesn't that constitute a "high crime (or) misdemeanor?"

Hi RLM - Talk about different circadian cycles! It's mid-day here... About your comment: I was in the army for 4 years during the height of the Vietnam disaster, and although there were tons of opposition within the ranks, there were still beaucoup blind followers (I finished off my hitch in the 13th PSYOPS Batallion in Ft. Bragg, attached to the Special Forces), from whose number it would have been easy pickings to find a supportive audience for First Pig Noxin. They would have jumped at the opportunity to kiss that foulest of asses, and in fact we PSYOPers were terrified of expressing our views anywhere near the post, surrounded by snakeaters as we were. So I really don't think any money needs to be involved, because they clearly don't just choose the audiences randomly.
Friday was a very sad day for me, as I was relfecting on veterans I've had the honor of knowing and veterans I never had the honor of meeting. Watching duhbaya pissing in the pelucid waters of their heroism turned my stomach. I can't wait until he and his gang get their come-uppance.
Peace and Love from Prague, Bob

As to history, one cannot rewrite history that has not been written yet.

I mean there are incomplete investigations, and we should not comment while an investigation is ongoing .... remember?

I mean Fitzgerald is still doing his thing, which involves the history of how the Iraq war started. We can't rewrite that because it has not been written yet.

Some of those in the admin, when asked about the history, (e.g. Scooter Libby, KKKarl, and Snottie McClellan), lied about it. Scooter and/or KKKarl lied to Snottie who then dutifully lied to the press about the actual historical facts of what had happened.

They admit they gave false history (false statements) about who outed Plame. They are on camera, on the record, and the history is that they lied about the matter.

Snottie, when asked about the history of the Plame outing said neither Rove nor Scooter had anything whatsoever to do with the outing of Plame.

He said that suspecting Rove or Libby had anything to do with it was "ridiculous" history. But now we know Snottie was trying to write false history. And he did it on camera. He can run be he can't hide.

The admin had falsely written history ... (history being what actually happened) ... and when the truth, the real history came out, they were exposed.

Scooter, Snottie's source for historical fact, was indicted for perjury, obstruction, and false statements concerning his version of history.

After all, the Wilson Niger investigation, where the Niger expert Joe Wilson went to investigate some yellow cake history was an attempt to find out what the real history was.

The Joe Wilson CIA episode was not a rewrite, cause the facts that compose the history was the reason for the investigation in the first place. History was hidden up to that point on the issue, in the sense that false reports were being used by the admin to write history like they wanted it written.

They wanted history to be that Sadaam had purchased yellow cake. We needed to know if Sadaam purchased yellow-cake uranium or not. What was the real history?

Joe Wilson came back and said that the president, vice president, sec. of war, and the National Security Advisor had already tried to write a distorted history by saying Sadaam had sought to get the yellow cake from Niger.

Yep, the admin wrote history one way, the wrong way, and Wilson wanted to write it the right way. The Wilson truth was better history than the admin lie.

The white house lied about history, and therefore sought to rewrite it in a false manner, and then to top it off, they lied to officials including Fitzgerald, about what the history was.

And they were indicted by those trying to discover the true history for obstructing the truth of history, perjury about the history, and making false statements about the history of the lead up to the Iraq war.

Now, the white house wants us to listen to their version of "history" and to not do so is rewriting history? How disingenuous.

They can't handle historical truth. Their coverup of history does not qualify them to make statements about what the real history is, much less about who they think rewrote it.

Well Said Dredd!!

Any discussion of 're-writing history' by Chimpy the Sock Monkey (or any of his puppeteers) should reference a great (and seriously disturbing) article by Ron Suskind (co-wrote Paul O'Neill's Bush Expose) from a few months back which featured Chimp Admin. Officials bragging about their being 'History's actors': 'while others talk, we act, creating our own history' - or words to that effect.
(I'm too sleepy to dig out the exact verbage....)

911 is the real deal

bombs, not planes brought down the towers

Right, gentlemen. For Bush, history is simply his version of events.

When one's version of events conflicts with another's, that's a difference in interpreting history.
When the same person's version conflicts with what is known to be contrary to his words, that isn't a difference of interpretation. That's lying.

Bush always lies. When he's caught, his political opponents are at fault for "rewriting history." The people he's now accusing of this included many who supported him originally, based on evidence now known to have been wrong...and according to the Downing Street minutes, not only wrong but tampered with ("cooked," "manipulated," choose your verb).

History has rewritten itself. WMD were suspected, and found non-existent. Iraq was suspected of wanting uranium from Niger; this was found to be false. Cheney tried to connect Saddam Hussein with Osama bin Laden (and by inference, to 9/11), and that proved to be false, too. In none of these cases was an opponent of Bush involved in the history.

No need to mince words. Bush is a world-class liar.

Show me on your site one good thing that has happened in Iraq. Then try and tell me there hasnt been any.

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What's WMR? Wayne Madsen?

re #19:
Here's the troll again, trying to change the subject again.
Please don't let him.

re #20 Joan: WMR stands for Wayne Madsen Report.

The stupidest thing about the whole Niger fiasco is that Saddam had 500 tons of yellowcake on hand from the 80s, but the issue was that there was nothing he could do with it. I apologize for not providing the link, but I'm sure I read that in several places, and I'd be willing to bet it's still there (hopefully under some sort of guard). For those less computer-challenged than this sexagenarian grandfather it should be a snap to verify. If true, it makes the countefeit claim all the more absurd...
Who goes there???
Just us 6 or 7 little billie goats, Mr. Troll.

The most obscene thing about Friday's performance is that he chose Veterans' Day to lie about lying

RLM #18, BMII #16

If we take each issue apart like this, the pattern follows. I mean history shows coverup and lies.

Their own cabinet members who have now left the admin paint a picture of an admin that was already headed for war with Iraq well before 9/11.

Several democrats did not vote for the war. So it is not true at all to say that all of the opposition was for the war and thought Iraq had WMD.

Hell, the UN inspectors were looking for WMD for a long time and did not find them. Furthermore, Sadaam was contained and was not a threat.

The nations of France, Russia, and some others, have never been convinced. The polls then showed that the public favored only invading if there was UN sanction of it. The UN would not approve an invasion.

So Bush using the consumate "honesty" of Cheney, Rove, and Libby needed to control the rhetoric by heating it up enough to get past the UN.

The rhetoric of mushroom clouds and destruction of america followed and escalated until the invasion.

He (Bush) didn't choose Veteran's Day...Rove did. Bush couldn't strategerize himself out of a paper bag. When Rove does get indicted, I have a feeling it's going to be a hollow victory for those who believe in truth. It's not as if any indictment or jail time is actually going to stop Rove communicating with the rest of the administration, seriously.

But this rewriting history is nothing new...it's so clearly Nixonian. Rove is the new Kissinger. Like Tom Lehrer said : "satire became obsolete the day Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize." The crafting of the positions and the policies is done so subtly and deftly that the semi-thinking portion of the American public (i.e. Troll and the Bush-meister himself) buys it readily - it all plays to either emotion or the reptilian fight-or-flight - noone of it to logic and reason. And logic and reason lose that battle every time. How is it possible that Tenet, Franks, and Bremer all got (what was it - medals of honor? medals of freedom?) when anyone with more than half a brain (i.e. NOT Troll and the Bush-meister himself) knew that they were clearly part of the reason that a) we were in Iraq to begin with and b) it was going so badly? Diversionary tactics - that's all this administration has.

What really needs to take place, on a larger scale than the fight to uncover the truth about Iraq (which is hugely important in the long run) is to show how this administration's policies damage the day to day livelihood of the American public - economics, education, environment. A lot of people don't understand anything more than "How does this affect me directly?" and I'm not sure that enough people are affected directly by Iraq, at least not in a way that the Rovian nightmare can't counter with BS like we heard from Bush yesterday.

Also, Dredd, one of the reasons that France and Russia in particular never bought the Bush admin lies is that they knew exactly why the war was being promoted. It was absolutely about control of the oil. France and Russia had locked up somewhere around 95% of the available oil contracts with Hussein (exploration, development, refining, etc.) With Hussein gone, those contracts became worthless.

#14" Friday was a very sad day for me, as I was reflecting on veterans I've had the honor of knowing and veterans I never had the honor of meeting. Watching duhbaya pissing in the pellucid waters of their heroism turned my stomach. I can't wait until he and his gang get their comeuppance."

Yes it was a solemn day for me also. My kids and I spent a couple of hours at our National Cemetery visiting a few old friends and family. My oldest son is almost the same age as my brother was when died. I was shocked when I got home and read the reports of the presidents speech. For all our sacrifices, and the president is up there whining and blaming and making campaign speeches. He uses Veterans day to make a dig at Kerry (a war veteran). What was that all about? He should at least have the decency to save his spoiled little rant for another day. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans.

One of the unfortunate realities is that people and nations consider the reputation of a person or a nation when deciding whether or not to deal with them.

Our reputation is shot in the world, hence the talk about "democracy" in the mid east "at the Democracy Summit" was as popular as ... well ... women being allowed to drive automobiles in Saudi Arabia (link here).

About all the admin is able to do anymore is get agreements to have secret prisons in these countries where they can torture people whom they have not charged with crime.

I just heard on NPR that Boston vets canceled their parade because there were very few people there to march (all in Iraq) and all the public were interested in was Veterans' Day sales and going to the movies on a day off, so they canceled it, what with no one to march, no one to watch. How sad. The chickenhawks must love it... What if they had a war and no one came??? (Sorry - I wax plagiaristic!)

Yow! Now Veterans For Peace are saying the parade was canceled to keep tqhem from protesting - someone on that side of the big ditch, Please Find Out wha'ppened???

#13 and #14 now I know why so much is going on in the 'middle of my night' lol.

#15 Wow, that was a read....just trying to read it caused my brain to go overtime....I applaud you for being able to clarify it.

To all the others, so many geat posts. I just woke up and thought I better check in, my mind is still fuzzy, only half a cup of coffee so far, just wanted to say I heard about some of the speech on the radio when I went to bed. I guess I missed alot yesterday, was not online, so didn't know how bush had 'outed' himself on Veterans Day. M4

Mornin' and welcome back M4 - it's just about plum brandy or Havana Club choice time here in Prague. A whole lot of stuff has happened while you slept. May each day get better, may Fitzmas come soon for us all...

Re #26 --- that's to a large extent the truth. For the year prior to the war, Saddam was selling oil via the Euro, not the $ as the Euro was doing much better than the $ after Bush hit office, and Bush's admin decided to correct this problem via military force rather than sound economic policies... Coupled with the Afghani pipeline fiasco at that time (which was the cause of 911... this girl believes) for the Enron powerplant contract so that Enron/USA wouldn't have to pay tarrif through the Caspian Sea --

Also --- someone up there noted that sitting around in Iraq was the remains of the [yellow cake] from the 80s... the inspector reports did note that substances along with expired bio weapons... the inspectors confirmed that the materials age(s) rendered them useless for weapons. They were not hidden; they just had not been disposed of since the Iraq/Iran days when (Rumsfeld) supplied them with the weapons.

What are your thoughts on Bolton and the UN at this time? At first, I thought it was simply to get Clinton out of the lead there. Now, I don't.

Lets hope history doesn't repeat...
NYPD to Test Explosive Detectors in Subway
NEW YORK (AP) - Police next week plan to roll out another anti-terrorism tool designed to stop bombers from attacking the city's subway system: portable explosive detection devices sometimes used at airports.

Rewriting history, ... , pertinent in the UN since Bolton?

Thanks for that, MMIIXX - I think I'll avoid that hemisphere for a spell...

CZ ARAGORN
Prague should be safe (no oil) ,same here (NZ).
bush jnr. reminds me of jethro off the beverly hillbillies

Analysis (from Washington Post)

Asterisks Dot White House's Iraq Argument

By Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, November 12, 2005; Page A01
President Bush and his national security adviser have answered critics of the Iraq war in recent days with a two-pronged argument: that Congress saw the same intelligence the administration did before the war, and that independent commissions have determined that the administration did not misrepresent the intelligence.

Neither assertion is wholly accurate.

http://www.washingtonpos...005111101832.html?sub=AR

My only question is my this article is under the heading of "Analysis". Isn't this how news is supposed to have been written the last 12 years?

MMIIXX interesting that you should say that, because I am taking my family out of this nuthouse over the summer. My wife and I are both public school teachers and we decided after the (stolen) election that we were taking our kids to either Europe or NZ. House is sold (perfect timing this summer because that bubble is going to burst, or perhaps even is in the process of bursting), whittling away our personal effects, gonna fly the coop. Too much religion here to be consistent with good national mental health. "Old Europe" has been through all of this before, that's part of the reason they couldn't get behind the US on this one. Seems to me that there are safer places in the world today than the good old US of A.

Soul Rebel.. I've been contemplating the same thing.. Problem for me is, I have a 13 yr old daughter that lives with her mom. I don't think she'd understand her pop leaving a place that may well be melting down.. Though, if things get too bad, I might have to bail anyway.. Preferrably, we can FIX this mess that's going on here. It will take time and work, but I don't think the U.S.A is "lost" yet.. Close, to be sure.. but not quite gone.

I think the biggest problem is getting Corperate America out of politics.. make it so you don't get pathetically rich being a Senator or Congressmen.. -thats- the biggest problem now, sleezy types are drawn to the money and power.. that has to change FIRST.. then you can educate people.. teach them to think... spend money on schools so they can be EFFECTIVE places of learning, not just day-cares for families that have to have both parents working just to get by. The U.S. needs to start looking out for it's self first (the masses, that is).. THEN it can worry about playing nice with other countries.. and we need to stop meddling in other people's affairs (you know, like Iran Contra, and the like.. or supporting Isreal and helping it kill 1000s of Muslims for it's own gain).

Soul Rebel...you would be welcomed with open arms here being teachers and all.Great place to bring up kids.Once we were "Allies" with the USA but the new US envoy said (the other day) we are only "friends" now as we have this "Anti-Nuke" policy so providing you don't own any nukes you'd be sweet...LOL
Pretty country,good levels of education(higher than the states),good exchange rate,reasonable standard of living,public health system,social welfare for unemployed,low polution,student loans for anybody who wants to go to University(government funded)...

I have been away most of the day and now it is evening again and I am still trying to catch up on Thurday and Friday and now today I find if I am not here every day I get behind, how sad is that.

Go Soul Rebel.....the ones that fled germany survived....the rest well.........I hope you are right Sav, that we can turn this thing around.

Canandians on some of the blogs are telling us to get out now, before it is too late. They know more than we do, they see different news. I feel I am stuck between a rock and a hard spot. What do I do, stay and try to raise the consciousness of the people here or flee. Due to my personal circumstances I guess it will be the former, I don't have enough support yet for the latter and no one I am close to realizes how fast the hammer is falling.

I will mention for the nth time, I am so glad I found this blog and others and know there are some sane people in America. Though we may be miles apart we are all together in this battle and I do believe in the collected, connected, consciousness. We are all tuned into the same frequency and that is so comforting to me. I thank MMIIXX and Bob for coming here and posting, they have no idea how much this means to me. They know too, that we are fighting this horror as well was we can. M4

Bush is making fools of veterans and active military, and their families. They must stand up and stop him themselves. Unless they like dying for lies.

What's the biggest help in bush re-writing history? The MSM, who doesn't point out his lies.

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BYU Physics Prof Says WTC Not Knocked Down By Planes

BYU Physics Professor's Article

stop_george: yes, the msm doesn't report facts anymore...they just give an undisputed forum to liars...they also don't stop liars from saying what they want, undisputed by them or a different point of view...

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Not only do they give a forum for the liars, they PARTICIPATE in the propaganda. Considering how 911 was used for political purposes, (helping to cause the deaths of 10s of thousands more human beings), journalists and reporters should be banned from wearing ribbons like the one seen on Tim Russert here. (September, 2001). One thing I cannot stand about watching American news is the use of the flag in most of the graphics. You know it's there because Americans respond to "patriotism" like no other country. This "sense of patriotism" tends to short-circuit rationality. It's there for an emotional response. Therefore, if news organizations have any sense of responsibility, they would ban its jingoistic use --- forever.

That's just part of what the corporate media needs to do in order to even come close to gaining my respect.

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Soul Rebel, I am so happy that you can get out. Hope you are going to like Canada . I am very close to the border. When I cross over, to visit or shop..the Canadians are so friendly and chatty. I'd go myself if I were younger....I also love Maine passionately.

TruantDuck - I like your cartoons. Thanks for posting them. Keep up the good work!

PS I'm enjoying browsing through your earlier ones at your site. Like the one of Judas Miller with bloody hands.