READER COMMENTS ON
"Rocket Science and Diebold Mysteries Rather Than Simple, Observable Democracy in MA Senate Race"
(34 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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nswfm
said on 1/19/2010 @ 1:30 pm PT...
Please keep up your pressure on this Diebold BS. Where I vote, we don't use this company's machines thank goodness, but this MA election has me very worried, (but hopeful).
Thanks for all you do, including the Sibel stories.
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Agent 99
said on 1/19/2010 @ 2:02 pm PT...
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NYCartist
said on 1/19/2010 @ 2:38 pm PT...
Oy. It has a familiar ring to it....
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Some Other Brad
said on 1/19/2010 @ 3:19 pm PT...
Great obfuscation! We ALL know why they don't want to hand count the votes, if they did, then Acorn and SEIU and the Dem machine wouldn't be able to "slip in"last minute ballots which "happened to be found!
Total projection here, accuse the other side of doing what you would do, in order to cause a distraction for what you want to do.
You liberals are funny!
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Trimegistus
said on 1/19/2010 @ 3:53 pm PT...
The Democrats are the masters of vote fraud and ballot-stuffing. This nonsense about Diebold is nothing but a smoke-screen. I don't know how you can be so intellectually dishonest to repeat these lies. Do you actually believe it yourself, or do you just think your readers are stupid enough to buy it?
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Jon in Iowa
said on 1/19/2010 @ 4:07 pm PT...
S.O.B. at #4, you raise a curious flag. Your claim is that the liberals here are promoting a hand count as a cover-up of their own ballot piracy. . . . which will be detected by a hand count.
Oh, I get it; you're a shameless political hack, who knows that it's easier to make an accusation than a point.
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Joe Rogers
said on 1/19/2010 @ 4:14 pm PT...
I saw someone come into the polling place with a jump drive and load something in the machine!
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lottakatz
said on 1/19/2010 @ 4:16 pm PT...
http://rawstory.com/2010...nute-massachusetts-vote/
This article has the statement:
"The city clerk's office said a poll worker inadvertently handed out ballots that were already cast," Boston's ABC News affiliate added.
What is that all about? Aren't those ballots that have been cpllected supposed to be secured and turned in somewhere? This is just way too fishy.
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Emily Levy
said on 1/19/2010 @ 4:58 pm PT...
Secretary of State Galvin says not to worry. Are we comfortable now?
Mass. secretary of state dismissed vote problems
"In one case, someone voting in Cambridge claimed a ballot had already been marked for Republican Scott Brown. There was no way to verify the claim, but the ballot was destroyed."
Hmm. Destroyed? I hope that's just sloppy reporting. ALL ballots must be kept, including voted, unvoted, and spoiled (like this one) ballots. Making sure those three numbers total the exact number of ballots delivered to the polling place is an important part of ensuring no ballot box stuffing has occurred.
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Emily Levy
said on 1/19/2010 @ 4:59 pm PT...
@Joe Rodgers #7:
Cute. But next time you bait a hook, try worms. They're less slimy.
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SPO
said on 1/19/2010 @ 5:44 pm PT...
#2) We’ve been getting disturbing reports of voting machine irregularities from all over Massachusetts. A paper trail seems to indicate ballots are coming back already having voted for Scott Brown. If Republicans/Conservatives think they’re going to get away with election crimes like the ones perpetrated in 2000 they better take a step BACK!
What better definition of TRAITOR than those who would corrupt the election process. Our people in New England are heading to the offices of Diebold affiliate LHS Associates at this very moment with sawed off baseball bats. (and Curt Schillings house too) lol
I can’t believe the good citizens of Massachusetts want to be known as the first state to have a former porn model as Senator. lol
consciousmc.blogspot.com
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Ernest A. Canning
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:02 pm PT...
As the "results" come in (whether by Diebold/LHS's choice or the actual will of the people --- and we'll never know if the ballots are not hand counted) two things should become readily apparent to Obama and the corporate Dems who have pissed away the opportunity to capitalize on the Nov. 2008 mandate for meaningful change by siding with Wall Street over Main Street, war over peace, the health insurance cartel and pharmaceutical industries over the health and very lives of American citizens.
They have a choice. They must move immediately to (a) remedy the catastrophe that is e-voting and (b) move sharply to the left. If they do neither, they risk not only losing the Presidency and control of Congress but risk a future America that descends towards a Christian fundamentalist theocracy where the peaceful means for meaningful change could be forever lost.
In light of recent history, I won't hold my breath waiting for corporate Dems to wake up to the folly of their corrupt ways.
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Jeannie Dean
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:15 pm PT...
Brad, All ~ RE-TWEET Brad's missive to hash tags #Masen #Brown and/or #Coakley to make sure the tweet is included in all the threads. This way the folks following both candidates can view / copy / re-tweet.
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Big Dan
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:20 pm PT...
What did I say in the last thread? This reminds me of Bush v Gore: the mainstream media ONLY said BAD things about Coakley...if anything at all about her. No reporting on things Scott Brown said like Obama's mother wasn't married when she had him, etc... (Al Gore invented the internet, etc...) Mysterious swings in "polls", etc...
Then they have their "setup" why Coakley lost: she didn't know who Curt Schilling was, etc...stupid things like that. Nothing bad about Brown. That's in the MAIN media.
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Julie
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:24 pm PT...
"...In addition to the incidents in Brighton and Cambridge, voters at the Centerville Elementary School in Beverly said they also received ballots that were already marked for Brown. The city clerk's office said a poll worker inadvertently handed out ballots that were already cast..."
--How can the city clerk's office blame one lone poll worker, when the pre-marked ballots for Brown occurred at 3 separate locations???? That excuse would mean 3 different poll workers at 3 different locations--How "inadvertent" is that?
And, as Brad pointed out--Why would a poll worker have their paws on a cast ballot????
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camusrebel
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:43 pm PT...
those 2 hacks up thread are just hilarious, coming HERE w/their "ACORN is worse than Diebold" shtick. I know there are very serious issues to be discussed, treason to be outed etc., but man, that is just too funny. All the years of exhaustive reporting by Brad and friends(national treasure) and they think we don't know the score, I'm this time almost really L'ing OL!!
9:30 ET and a report just claimed Coakley conceeded??? The Gore/Kerry spineless/complicit award goes to...........
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DanD
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:44 pm PT...
It seems that the die is cast ... Brown is going to "win (mandatory slavery paying off a private corporate health-care machine anyone?)" with a point-and-a-half lead, the Dems will be wetting their Depends crying fraud, and some top state judge somewhere will be bought off to swear Brown in.
Blackwater (Xe) moves in next month to assist the Federalized National Guard to quell civil unrest.
Goddam all interesting times.
DanD
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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David Lasagna
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:54 pm PT...
No really, I know this is gonna sound like terrorism and maybe it is but can't we have our own hi-tech guy come in here who's also into "living machines"(which I'd normally be against)and program the comment cyber channels here to be sensitive in a way that when some of these clowns go off the deep end and are just TOO stupid that the living program censor thingee we have senses it and sends a mild shock back to them through their fingers?
That's too horrible, isn't it?
How about if it makes I Love Lucy reruns be the only thing they can get on their computer?
Or ice cream, actual ice cream start coming out of their screen. It can even be really good ice cream, but they get billed for it? And they can't stop it? And it goes at least a week, increasing by increments of a week depending on how stupid the comment is?
I'm serious.
SOMETHING!!!
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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lottakatz
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:55 pm PT...
from my local news channel: Coakley has conceded with less than 55% of the precincts counted; 48% v 52% for Brown. Obama called Brown to congratulate him. Damn.
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Jeannie Dean
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:57 pm PT...
Coakley Concession begins: 9:56 ET...
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Cosimo diRondo
said on 1/19/2010 @ 6:59 pm PT...
SOB@#4, that has to be the richest, most audacious statement I've ever heard. Not only are Repubs major projectionists, but now they (you) are actually accusing liberals of being projectionists. That's meta-projection!
Democrats/liberals could be accused of many things, but I doubt projecting is one of them. That would imply actual offense. But all D's seem to be able to muster up is futile attempts to deny the deluge of bogus claims levied against them by bobblehead wingnuts and tea-baggers. In the IT industry, we call that a denial of service attack. D's don't have the stones to be projectionists.
And I LOVE the Jon Stewart routine about these pussy democrats whining and hand-wringing about Coakley's loss taking away their super-majority and thus their ability to do anything meaningful, while Bush never had that majority and was able to do pretty much whatever insane god-damned (literally) evil fucking thing he wanted to. Why? Because of a bunch of fucking pussy democrats cowing to the terror card and taking impeachment off the table.
In short, I agree 100% with Ernest Canning@#12, but I sound like a raving fucking lunatic when I say it because I don't have any journalistic integrity I need to preserve. BWAAAA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
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David Lasagna
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:05 pm PT...
Ernest Canning @ comment 12-
I love you.
And I'm gonna save your comment and maybe if any of my friends who got so mad at me over the last couple of days ever calm down enough to actually want to have a conversation about how I reluctantly came to the conclusion that I just couldn't vote for anybody today, I can also mention the substance of your words to them.
Hey, Nation, anybody ready for a little democracy, yet?
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Jeannie Dean
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:05 pm PT...
...is it just me, or is she almost chirpy-cheery about this result:
"...If you do not run, you can not win. And you can not always win, but you put in your best effort, because sometimes it's better to travel hopefully than to arrive..."
Well, that pretty much sums up the dems strategy in a nutshell.
"...our work continues and our work goes on...I know that we will get up together tomorrow and continue this fight...while there will be plenty of Wednesday morning Quarterbacking...The work begins anew and the dream lives on."
...and OH, NO! She's closing with "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow!!!" The DEMS seriously need to retire that tune...
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zapkitty
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:11 pm PT...
Hey... unless Croakley improbably recants her concession... it would mean that my prediction on this was wrong and will stay wrong, right? Unlike FISA...
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I do feel sorry for MA voters forced to choose between a rock and a hard place with Diebold counting the votes in secret... and the post-mortem on who tried to steal what and the methods used is going to be fascinating... but this would seem destined to shake things up a bit on the corporate steamroller.
Unfortunately this upset can derail things for only a bit, but that's still a change from this morning.
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katie
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:12 pm PT...
How very convenient for Diebold, no darn pesky exit polls so they can easily steal this election.
from Mark Crispin miller:
Massachusetts Exit Polls For 2010 Senate Race: There Are None
http://www.huffingtonpos...n_428655.html?view=print
Those seeking exit polls for the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Race will be disappointed to know there aren't any.
Mike Allen of Politico reports about the lack of exit polls:
The consortium scrambled to put something together --- for the "why," more than for the call --- but wasn't confident a reliable system could be built so fast."
Allen adds that just days ago the Boston Sunday Globe carried the headline, "Senate poll: Coakley up 15 points." Since the election wasn't expected to be close not long ago, some apparently thought the exit poll process wouldn't be needed.
Curious Americans aren't the only losers. John Fund of the Wall Street Journal writes in his blog that the missing exit polls are "disappointing journalists and political scientists alike."
Also on the matter, MSNBC anchor David Shuster tweeted: "No news organization is doing exit polls in Mass senate race today. Only numbers will be the election results themselves. Voting ends 8pm."
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Jeannie Dean
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:27 pm PT...
Wow, Katie...that's...wow. I knew they were killING media exit polls (present participle tense), but I didn't know they were already dead.
R.I.P. Exit Polls.
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Jeannie Dean
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:28 pm PT...
Unintended, involuntary bold. Sorry, again, 99!
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zapkitty
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:37 pm PT...
Ah, how fickle! 99 is holding Jeannie closely... and trying to claim it was an accident...
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delver
said on 1/19/2010 @ 7:38 pm PT...
At Kos, someone reports the vote is actually narrowing: should Coakley not have conceded yet? Thank goodness the law says, it's the vote that counts and not premature concessions by weaklings. (REM how Carter hurt Western Dems?) It is possible to pull this out? Is it, if we can find enough evidence of fraud to require a re-examination?
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Agent 99
said on 1/19/2010 @ 8:47 pm PT...
She said, BOLD, zap, darling... NOT hold. Plus, as long as they don't pass this gay marriage thing I won't be forced to marry a woman... I don't think....
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DanD
said on 1/20/2010 @ 1:10 am PT...
With all those, nationally epic, recently past elections where the Democraps went down with their ship (not), who'da thunk that Coakly would'a bailed SO EARLY ... !
And most people still don't think that the Democraps and the Repukes are just two sides of the same political coin working hard for that common end to corporately fuck ALL the people?
Let me assure you, Coakly DID win ... and America's Capitalist Political (one only) Party will make fuckin' sure that she never misses a meal, sustains a full bank account, and will always have a comfortable mansion to live in.
In the meantime, the drama-queens of the corporate media keep us all entertained with SO MUCH, irrelevant information overload.
DanD
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Ernest A. Canning
said on 1/20/2010 @ 11:49 am PT...
If you were Diebold/Premier soon to be ES & S or LHS and you desired to rig an election, the best means for assuring that the rigging went undetected, aside from exclusive access to the source code, etc., would be to make sure that the results you programmed would not be contradicted by those infernal exit-polls.
Can someone tell me why there were no exit-polls performed for this election?
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Cars
said on 1/22/2010 @ 1:54 am PT...
Have you ever seen those mysterious black helicopters? They have DIEBOLD painted in big letters on the side. Honest!
They fly around secretly, airlifting uncounted Democrat ballots to secret landfills.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Robert Ken Francis
said on 2/5/2010 @ 2:57 pm PT...
"The city clerk's office said a poll worker inadvertently handed out ballots that were already cast."
In three different precincts?
LOOK BILDERBERG OR WHATEVER, WE KNOW YOUR PARTIES RUN THE POLLS ALRIGHT? This is why nothing changes. So, just try to do a better job at faking us out okay?