READER COMMENTS ON
"PBS' 'Bill Moyers Journal' Dares to Mention (and Mispronounce) the Name of Sibel Edmonds"
(19 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 3:31 pm PT...
One small step for good journalism..... an perhaps the move towards one giant leap for an open and free American society.
Brad.. I would not complain about he lack of depth in the coverage... but would like to ask questions on why Karr felt it was an almost impossible story to cover.
Was it editorial pressure? Or simple self censorship because the truth means treasonous acts and a major coverup?
I was gratified to see something coming out in the somewhat mainstream media of PBS. Still... the real story is such a blockbuster sensation that there must be some intrepid mainstream American editor that will allow a more in depth report into print.
We can only hope that our primarily propagandistic mainstream media slips up in the excitement of a Watergate level outing of public official wrongdoing. [Except Watergate was not really about a burglary for partisan advantage in an election... but then I digress.]
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 4:04 pm PT...
Something is better than nothing at this point. Take what you can get, say thank you and expand on the crack. Start sending letters to the editors of news papers and investigative shows. With everybody paying attention over election stuff, more people would start to hear about the biggest repressed story of national security ever...that is, if they get published. You'll never know unless you try though, and the more people that do it the more pressure against their consorship.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 4:06 pm PT...
Oops, sorry that was censorship.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 5:55 pm PT...
Moyers is a jackass and a tool.
A few weeks ago he asked a question as to "What book would you like the next president to take to the white house & read"
there were some 600 request for David Ray Griffin's book "Debunking 9/11 Debunking"
He completely ignored them all and made no mention of the book even though it was recommended 10 to 1 over any other.
That was blatant censorship of the facts just like this was.
There are no MSM outlets that will touch anything to do with Election fraud & the facts about 9/11 because they all know they are GUILTY of being complicit.
Moyers is no different than the rest.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 7:29 pm PT...
Moyers is a jackass and a tool.
Moyers is no different than the rest.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 9:04 pm PT...
One day the persecutors of America who are protecting its enemies within, may get to the place where they can admit their atrocities. Some universal soldiers are coming clean:
Thirty-seven years ago, in the midst of a bitter-cold Michigan winter, 109 Vietnam veterans gathered at a Howard Johnson Motel auditorium in Detroit to tell their stories. For three days, they told of ransacking undefended villages, attacking civilians, mutilating bodies, torturing Viet Cong suspects, burning houses, destroying Vietnamese property and livestock and killing innocent children. At the conference, entitled Winter Soldier, the veterans accepted responsibility and mourned for their actions. But, taken collectively, their words incriminated a much larger culprit: the war itself.
This year, from March 13 to 16, about 300 veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will follow in the footsteps of their predecessors, gathering for a second Winter Soldier conference, in Silver Spring, Maryland. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) it will make up the largest gathering ever of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.
(Truthout). Sibel, your name will live on in our good memories, but the war criminals will be buried in our disdain and contempt.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 3/2/2008 @ 9:46 pm PT...
I agree Brad. Nunyabiz, Moyers has been fighting for media reform for several years now. Attacking him does not help that effort. Sure we all would like to see a new 9/11 commission report, but its going to take an informed citizenry to get it. A majority of people still get their information from the korporate owned msm that has profited from 9/12/01. He is still respected by a majority of Americans and still on cable where they get their information from. IMO he is opening up the cracks as quickly as possible without throwing sheeple into a tizzy and rejecting him all together.
Hey Dredd, that's beautiful, God Bless Them All!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2008 @ 1:44 am PT...
It's not true that Moyers didn't mention the book. He talked about it explicitly and acknowledged the fact that it got more votes then any other, but because of the fact it was an organized effort, they rejected the votes. They wanted people to pick the winners as individuals. I would have been disgusted if they had chosen one of Ann Colter's books just because freepers had barraged PBS with E-mails.
Bill Moyers isn't perfect, but has done more then any thousand journalists in this country to get the truth out about lots of important issues! Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water!
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2008 @ 6:08 am PT...
Yup, I would say old Bill has a little more creds than a few 911 conspiracists
"The journalist's job is not to achieve some mythical state of equilibrium between two opposing opinions out of some misshapen respect — sometimes, alas, reverence — for the prevailing consensus among the powers-that-be. The journalist's job is to seek out and offer the public the best thinking on an issue, event, or story."
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2008 @ 10:29 am PT...
Those of you who really want to try and "find the truth" today, if you are near Seton Hall University, try and get close to Marc Grossman, who's speaking there at 4 PM in a "conversation on diplomacy" with John C. Whitehead at McQuaid Hall. Perhaps if we can get a "Youtube crew" out there, we can force Grossman into answering one of those questions that Sibel would like to have him answer on the stand now!
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 3/3/2008 @ 12:02 pm PT...
... if everybody gutta blog ... who's gonna sit
on the curb pickin their nose whatchin the parade . . .
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2008 @ 2:56 pm PT...
Tell them to get in touch with me. I'll report on it.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 3/3/2008 @ 2:57 pm PT...
Hmmm... bill moyers ~ The news mohel . . .
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2008 @ 6:13 pm PT...
The fact that he couldn't even pronounce her name correctly, that really does say a lot.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 3/3/2008 @ 6:36 pm PT...
Moyers taking baby steps. It is a beginning.
How about the Blog Clogs in the so called "progressive" blogosphere when it comes to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Firedoglake's Jane Hamsher and Christy Hardin Smith will not touch this critical issue. Both of these bloggers think that if you put Israel in a title you are writing about this important issue. When I have posted any challenges on Crooks and Liars about not writing about this issue...they take it off. Will the Brad BLog? Firedoglake is chicken shit to write about this conflict so is Crooks and Liars. Hell both of these websites have failed to even mention what is happening in the Gaza. The I-Lobby has many blogs shut down
ANYONE HEAR OR SEE ANY NEWS ON WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE GAZA THE LAST FEW DAYS ON OLBERMAN, MATTHEWS, FOX OR ANYWHERE ELSE?
Since the majority of the US media is shut down to what is taking place in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Here are a few links to here a Palestinian reporter from the Gaza. Who reports that 130 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli’s in the last few days… 39 of them children. Three Israeli’s have been killed.
The Palestinian reporter describes smelling flesh and seeing arms legs and fingers of Palestinians in the streets
Really worth the listen..the whole show
Amy Goodman also interviews A reporter from the Jewish media outlet Haartz, She reports that there is no news about what is really taking place for the Palestinians in the Gaza.
Npr Israeli view
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 3/4/2008 @ 10:31 am PT...
"""It's not true that Moyers didn't mention the book. He talked about it explicitly and acknowledged the fact that it got more votes then any other, but because of the fact it was an organized effort, they rejected the votes""
Nope, sorry but that book he was speak about was in fact "The Art of Non War by Kim Michaels"
The Author herself sent Moyers a book and an email explaining why so many voted for the book, she told her readers on her website to go and vote in the poll to get publicity.
Griffin did no such thing, there were just 100s of individuals that heard about the poll and went there to vote for Debunking 9/11 Debunking and Moyers did not even mention it at all, he completely ignored it just like he does anything concerning Election fraud.
I used to think of Moyers as about the last jounalist standing with any integrity at all myself.
I lost that respect a few weeks ago when he showed his ass in that poll.
""Yup, I would say old Bill has a little more creds than a few 911 conspiracists""
Ummm I would have to say that more than 36% of the population which is well over 100 Million people is a bit more than a "few".
That mind you is even with a total media blackout of all information and with the media actively lying through their teeth spreading propaganda.
Imagine IF we had a real media?
That of course doesn't even include the 100s of millions outside the USA.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 3/4/2008 @ 3:30 pm PT...
It was probably the next Moyers show where he mentioned Griffins book. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of David Ray Griffin and the 911 movement and there's no doubt Moyer's has avoided the voting machine issue and 911, as everybody else on PBS has, but I still don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
If it's true they picked the book despite an organized effort, that's not right.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 3/4/2008 @ 8:35 pm PT...
Kathleen at #15, check this link to
Firedoglake.com. The posting is about the current situation in Gaza.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 3/9/2008 @ 5:55 pm PT...
The Sibel Edmonds case is not frozen in time. G. Lincoln McCurdy, who was a major player in the American Turkish Council, established the Turkish Coalition of America about a year ago. At the same time, he established the Turkish Coalition USA PAC (TC-USA PAC). The TC-USA PAC is, of course, funding candidates in the elections this year.
Albanian organized crime has a similar front organization that has been helping candidates, and McCain got one million dollars in one night for his campaign at an event they sponsored in January.
Meanwhile, Congressman Waxman will not hold hearings into the Sibel Edmonds case as he promised, because he is a member of the Congressional Caucus of McCurdy's new "semi-legit", the TCA.
It's up to the blogosphere.